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More On Shatner's Possible Return To Trek

Tycoon Guy writes "Is that the sound of desperation I hear? TrekToday is reporting that, according to a trailer shown at CBS Television City, William Shatner will be appearing on Star Trek: Enterprise for a two-episode guest stint - as James T. Kirk! The most likely writers of his episodes are Trek novelists Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stevens, who already resurrected Kirk in their books, and were just hired as story editors for Enterprise's fourth season." We reported a rumor to this effect a couple of months back.

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  1. Tyrant Shatner? by mfh · · Score: 1

    I know they're going with Kirk but wouldn't it be funny if he played the tyrant from Sea Quest DSV, instead of Kirk? Anyone who saw this episode will know what I mean... he was terrible in it with a fake accent and all the Shatner pomp and circumstance.

    But seriously, I would much rather see Spock again.

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    1. Re:Tyrant Shatner? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Yeah, but Spock has replaced Kirk on all the commercials. So have to find someplace for an actor that made Reagan look good.

  2. Dot Com Stock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I guess all that dot com stock for that travel company didn't pay off huh? Have to get back to his day job. Which I dont mind.

  3. I'm... getting too... old for THIS.... ... shit! by JPelorat · · Score: 5, Funny

    KHAAAAAN!!

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  4. oh god please no by l33t-gu3lph1t3 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Let's just all hope that Kirk doesn't go back to old habits, rip his shirt off, and fight a guy in a rubber suit...*shudders*

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    1. Re:oh god please no by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As George Takei would say .... "Oh My!"

    2. Re:oh god please no by shut_up_man · · Score: 1

      I suddenly got a horrid vision of a Trek / Star Wars crossover where Old Kirk wrestles Jabba the Hutt for the attentions of the green-skinned Twi'lek slave girl, Oola.

      Excuse me while I go sandblast that image out of my brain...

    3. Re:oh god please no by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Young Wet Bitches" .....
      "I excused my self to the lavatory" (who says lavatory?)

    4. Re:oh god please no by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      he sleeps with all the females on the ship

    5. Re:oh god please no by Captain+Nitpick · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Let's just all hope that Kirk doesn't go back to old habits, rip his shirt off, and fight a guy in a rubber suit...*shudders*

      Given some of the garbage they've had on Enterprise, a shirtless Shatner fighting a guy in a rubber suit would be an improvement.

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    6. Re:oh god please no by serutan · · Score: 1

      At this point in Shatner's career I think it would have to be Kirk in a rubber suit fighting a shirtless guy.

  5. COMING SOON! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Star Trek Enterprise: The Original Series
    Where Kirk must defeat the Time Travel dudes to once again save the earth... FROM THEMSELVES!

    Or something equally as peposterous.

    1. Re:COMING SOON! by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Better yet- we find out that the shaddowy figure that has been advising the Suliban is Emperor Tiberius himself- Evil Kirk from the Mirror Universe.

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    2. Re:COMING SOON! by digitalgiblet · · Score: 4, Insightful
      "Better yet- we find out that the shaddowy figure that has been advising the Suliban is Emperor Tiberius himself- Evil Kirk from the Mirror Universe."

      Sadly, this joke will probably make more sense and be more interesting that whatever the real writers come up with for the show...

    3. Re:COMING SOON! by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 1

      Yep- because it would fit with the initial show concept, where whatever the writers come up with will no doubt be a useless throw away time travel episode that makes no difference to the timeline whatsoever.

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    4. Re:COMING SOON! by qaz20 · · Score: 1

      The only way to make Enterprise fit in with the ST universe without rewriting it as they have done would be to have the Ent crew sacrifice themselves from time to save humanity, erasing themselves from ever existing. This would be a bang up series finale and I have been waiting for it since they started.
      Would Bacula be offended if they did this?

    5. Re:COMING SOON! by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 1

      Wouldn't he loose any movie acting rights?

      And no, I disagree with this being "The only way"- given what already happened in the movie "First Contact" it's entirely possible that Enterprise fits within the universe perfectly, just on another timeline (originally the Mirror Universe timeline if the original series synopsis let out was correct- but since the Xendi/Sphere Builder interference in Earth History, suddenly the Suliban and the 30th Century TimeFleet guys are on the same side as a whole new front has opened in the Temporal Cold War- apparently a front that includes Xendi Reptilians teaching the Nazis how to fight). Once you change your universe to a multiverse- anything is possible, even probable.

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    6. Re:COMING SOON! by AJWM · · Score: 1

      Once you change your universe to a multiverse- anything is possible, even probable.

      Sure, throw in the Kromags from "Sliders", why not?

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    7. Re:COMING SOON! by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 1

      Why not- we already threw in the Kzinti in the cartoon series and the X-Men in one of the books and Q's son in TOS and Q himself- none of it is pure. And that wasn't even dealing with time traveling episodes and branching futures and pasts- that was all in the original universe! Anybody who thinks that there's a pure continutity to any Sci-Fi out there is just deluding themselves. Sure, some continutity is nice- it makes the stories make more sense to have backstory- but after a hundred years of Mr. Verne's "Scientific Romances" being popular, no writer today is working in a vaccum.

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    8. Re:COMING SOON! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe the writers there will steal it? ;)

      Slashdot has been getting some results lately.

      Now if only they'd change the fugly IT colour scheme...

    9. Re:COMING SOON! by AJWM · · Score: 1

      Oh, yes, the Kzinti. That was one of the 2 or 3 episodes the ST cartoons that I ever saw.

      But "Sliders" is already about multiple parallel worlds so it fits with the whole tangled multiverse mess -- if a bit early in the timeline.

      (Mind, if you want real backstory/cross-story confusion, read Heinlein's "The Number of the Beast" and "The Cat Who Walked Through Walls", both of which start out as great books before the crosstime/multiverse/whatever nonsense kicks in.)

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    10. Re:COMING SOON! by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 1

      Yeah- about 200 years too early, IIRC. Though, if our Capitan Archer can end up in the 1940s as a prisoner of a Nazi Xendi.....anything can happen indeed.

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    11. Re:COMING SOON! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Wouldn't he loose any movie acting rights?"

      Good Lord. Where do I start? Firstly, it's "lose", not "loose". Secondly, do you really think that there will ever be a movie based on ST:E? Thirdly, I can't believe that you used the word "acting" in a discussion about Scott Bakula.

  6. When you can't write a decent story... by khasim · · Score: 3, Insightful

    you can always fall back on guest appearances from characters from shows that had good writers.

    This is just sad.

    1. Re:When you can't write a decent story... by eddy · · Score: 5, Informative

      "Brent Spiner Will Reportedly Appear On Enterprise. Marina Sirtis spilled the beans at a convention in Dallas that Spiner will appear in three episodes playing the grandfather of Data's creator, Dr. Noonien Soong." -- TVTome

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    2. Re:When you can't write a decent story... by TopShelf · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's the time-honored practice of many TV, shows, so really this isn't surprising. Kinda like when the Fonz used to show up on Laverne & Shirley, right?

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    3. Re:When you can't write a decent story... by digitalgiblet · · Score: 1
      "you can always fall back on guest appearances from characters from shows that had good writers."

      We could have a different set of guest stars each week. The Enterprise could always be heading for Riser (or however the hell you spell that vacation/prostitution planet -- and do take note that I am trying to be mildly funny, so don't post the correct spelling -- and, yes, I realize it isn't very funny at all -- you should probably hit the back button or mod me out of existence or something). You have GOT to have a bartender named Isaac, though. That Vulcan chick (what's her name? Tupac? Tupelo? Tupperware?) could be the entertainment director. Come to think of it the best Isaac would be that freaky alien cook from Voyager.. Nihilist!

    4. Re:When you can't write a decent story... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you can always fall back on guest appearances from characters from shows that had good writers.

      Yeah... so why are they using Kirk instead?

    5. Re:When you can't write a decent story... by the_Bionic_lemming · · Score: 1

      Bah - It doesn't matter what Berman and Braga write - no one is going to watch it in its new time slot. Not content with the falling ratings, the dimwits got it moved to be on the same time Stargate SG1 is on.

      Quite possibly the dumbest move since TOS was cancelled. Hmmmm, Could Berman or Braga be the son of the NBC Dimwit that cancelled ST TOS?

      It would explain a lot.

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    6. Re:When you can't write a decent story... by Jahf · · Score: 1

      Sure, but let us expound to an equivalent.

      The year is 2009 (corresponds with the start date of both shows) ... the show is "Happy Days: The Cunninghams", a sequel/prequel about Howard Cunningham's parents in the year 1923. Enter a 65+ year old fat Arthur Fonzarelli, who has been resurrected after being killed in the 7th iteration of "Happy Days: Generations", brought in to revive "The Cunninghams" to water ski over a shark for a second time after previous episodes destroyed the timeline so that the first jumping of the shark will have never -really- happened without this 2-part guest appearance.

      Umm ... no. Crossovers are one thing. Shatner on Enterprise is just silly. My TiVo just lost a season pass.

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    7. Re:When you can't write a decent story... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So? Why invite kirk then??

    8. Re:When you can't write a decent story... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's the time-honored practice of many TV, shows, so really this isn't surprising. Kinda like when the Fonz used to show up on Laverne & Shirley, right?

      It's a time-honored practice of Star Trek, fer cryin' out loud... every single Trek sequel series, starting with the first episode of TNG, has featured cameos from other Trek series from time to time.

    9. Re:When you can't write a decent story... by Our+Man+In+Redmond · · Score: 2, Funny

      yeah, but Laverne and Shirley was a spinoff of Happy Days.

      Oh, wait . . .

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    10. Re:When you can't write a decent story... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure, but let us expound to an equivalent.[snip analogy failing]

      For your next trick, explain why "Atlas Shrugged" and "Principia Mathematica" would make poor Saturday children's cartoons...

      Time travel and existentialism have always been fundamental components of "Star Trek," so obviously any attempt to transpose context will result in humorous chaos. (Assuming you didn't utterly ruin the joke through zealous overdescription...)

      Shatner on Enterprise is just silly.

      If you spend any time whatsoever deconstructing any Star Trek series, "silly" is what you're going to come up with every time. (Ask Phil Farrand.) Even when the stories are internally consistent. I challenge you to listen to just one line of technobabble - randomly selected from any series - with a rational ear and not crack up laughing. Come on. It's Star Trek.

  7. Uh oh... by GreatDrok · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Kaaaaaahhhhnnnnnn!

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    1. Re:Uh oh... by cosmo_the_third · · Score: 3, Funny

      "Redundant?" Please. I feel like this a perfect example of how sloppy moderates are getting these days. The first quote was "Khan!" (note the spelling), referring to the enemy Kirk met in an episode of the original series, and later in Star Wars II: The Wrath of Khan. THIS post is in reference to "Kahn," who (I believe) is a villian who ran afoul of Catpain Krik in an esipode the original "Satr Terk" series.

      Or something...

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    2. Re:Uh oh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same person.

  8. goodby priceline, hello star trek. by kyoorius · · Score: 2, Funny

    Heh, I guess it's back to Star Trek after priceline kicked him out. Is Spock coming back as well?

    1. Re:goodby priceline, hello star trek. by ackthpt · · Score: 1
      I guess it's back to Star Trek after priceline kicked him out.

      He's not out, he's still doing their ads. I think he's also a large (no pun intended) shareholder.

      BTW, He can probably get you a really good deal on a ticket to Alpha Centauri.

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    2. Re:goodby priceline, hello star trek. by rokzy · · Score: 3, Informative

      >I heard about an interview where they asked him why he would talk so slow. He answered that he did it for more on-camera time... kinda funny.

      Adam West said that about playing Batman. Robin was pissed off.

    3. Re:goodby priceline, hello star trek. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Robin was pissed off.

      I'd be pissed off too, if I had to wear that outfit.

    4. Re:goodby priceline, hello star trek. by JabberWokky · · Score: 1
      Uhh... when they have him "kicked off" and play it up for months with loads of screen time, he's not *actually* kicked off. It's called a "gimmick".

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    5. Re:goodby priceline, hello star trek. by M.C.+Hampster · · Score: 1
      Uhh... when they have him "kicked off" and play it up for months with loads of screen time, he's not *actually* kicked off. It's called a "gimmick".

      I think the original post was a "joke". You might want to get a "sense of humor".

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    6. Re:goodby priceline, hello star trek. by JabberWokky · · Score: 1
      It may have been a joke, but I sat in not one but *two* different comic shops and listened to people discuss Shatner's loss of a job. In one I talked to the proprietor about it and he pointed out that it was the Magic players who thought Shatner was fired and that the Warhammer players had discussed the ads a week ago and knew better.

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    7. Re:goodby priceline, hello star trek. by Tongo · · Score: 2

      it was the Magic players who thought Shatner was fired and that the Warhammer players had discussed the ads a week ago and knew better.

      That is so friggin sad....

  9. Here's the reason... by bje2 · · Score: 5, Funny

    and here's the link with the exclusive reason of why Shatner is returning for a guest appearance...

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    1. Re:Here's the reason... by Emugamer · · Score: 4, Informative

      Shatner is actually associated with the marketing turn around of priceline (after Jan 2001 all time low)... so he's still doing fine there

    2. Re:Here's the reason... by Epistax · · Score: 3, Funny

      You.. cannot.. talk about Shatner.. like that. He's a roll model.. to.. all.. young.. boys out there. Don't forget he.. once had add sex with an alien.. or two.. every geeks dream. Actually to.. tell you the truth, what Shatner is really after.. is another.. speech.. therap.. y.. session.

    3. Re:Here's the reason... by Dr+Caleb · · Score: 3, Funny
      Don't forget he.. once had add sex with an alien.. or two.

      If the pussy is green, there is definitely something wrong with it.

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    4. Re:Here's the reason... by MarsDefenseMinister · · Score: 4, Funny

      Oh come on, I'm practically a gynecologist and I've never seen a green pussy.

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    5. Re:Here's the reason... by Saeger · · Score: 2, Informative
      I very much doubt that Shatner's hard up for money. What he craves is a return to his glory days... of painted-green alien women in his dressing room, and a full head of hair.

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    6. Re:Here's the reason... by hal2814 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Are you supposed to be Shatner or that kid in the wheelchair in Malcom in the Middle?

    7. Re:Here's the reason... by nizo · · Score: 1
      ...He's a roll model...

      So this is why he has been looking a little heavy lately, too many cinnamon rolls I would wager!

    8. Re:Here's the reason... by TioHoltzman · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Holy Crap on a Cannolli!
      I had *no* idea that Priceline was so high when it debuted! $600 a share? That's friggin insane!

    9. Re:Here's the reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Oh come on, I'm practically a gynecologist

      Is that your pick-up line?

    10. Re:Here's the reason... by Mateito · · Score: 1

      > He's a roll model

      Yep. Every time he takes off his shirt, he models his rolls.

    11. Re:Here's the reason... by Red+Alastor · · Score: 2, Funny

      You didn't understood. A roll model is for RPG player. ;-)

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    12. Re:Here's the reason... by UnknowingFool · · Score: 3, Informative

      Actually, I don't think Shatner needs to work any time soon. He took Priceline stock as payment for the first round of endorsements instead of money. I found this link that he sold 35,000 shares back in 2000 for around $3.5 million. I remember another story where he eventually sold half of his stock for $14 million. Of course his other half isn't nearly worth that today, but I would say Shatner does not need the money.

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    13. Re:Here's the reason... by Nos. · · Score: 5, Funny

      Surfing porn does not make you "practically a gynecologist"

    14. Re:Here's the reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I put it on stun"

      heh heh, Space Ghost interview.

    15. Re:Here's the reason... by Mateito · · Score: 1

      Then make your own!
      Alternatively, do a google images search for pornstar "Ebony Green".

    16. Re:Here's the reason... by Anoraknid+the+Sartor · · Score: 1

      dead, right...

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    17. Re:Here's the reason... by Geno+Z+Heinlein · · Score: 3, Funny

      Archer (dramatic): We can't get there in time! Maybe in your era, ships can make Warp 13, but we can't!

      Kirk (laidback): You know, I can show you how to get there on the cheap....

    18. Re:Here's the reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      They could just make it easy on themselves and make Kirk an immortal being.

    19. Re:Here's the reason... by Martin+Blank · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Can even one story go by without someone dragging politics into it? I mean, I know this is Slashdot, home of the factless fanatic, but this is ridiculous.

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    20. Re:Here's the reason... by Martin+Blank · · Score: 1

      I just saw a commercial for Priceline with both Shatner and Leonard Nimoy in it (he's getting to look like irradiated Spock even without the make-up), so he's still doing something there. Not sure if the addition of Nimoy is a long-term thing, but the ad sort of suggested that he was sticking around.

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    21. Re:Here's the reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      now THATS funny.

    22. Re:Here's the reason... by Short+Circuit · · Score: 1

      I bet he rolls a critical failure...that seems to be the popular opinion of Enterprise around here.

      (Personally, I liked the first episode. I can't wait for it to come out on DVD so I can watch more.)

    23. Re:Here's the reason... by nebaz · · Score: 1

      Full head of hair? He looks like he has less hair in the Original Series. I think he might be a client too...

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    24. Re:Here's the reason... by JabberWokky · · Score: 1
      What *does* he have? I mean, he's not wearing a toupee (or hasn't for many years). Plenty of people who have met him, including people who have done things like swum on a beach or spread hay with him say that it may not be natural, but it's not a rug.

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    25. Re:Here's the reason... by Mechanik · · Score: 1

      If the pussy is green, there is definitely something wrong with it.

      I for one, welcome our new vagina-bearing overlords...

      (Sorry, you had that one coming...)


      Mechanik

    26. Re:Here's the reason... by ArcticCelt · · Score: 1

      How can I mod you (Score:6, Funny)?

      :)

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    27. Re:Here's the reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    28. Re:Here's the reason... by lucabrasi999 · · Score: 1
      he sold 35,000 shares back in 2000 for around $3.5 million

      Maybe he could use some of that money to take acting lessons.

    29. Re:Here's the reason... by Tongo · · Score: 1

      Are you getting married????

    30. Re:Here's the reason... by pyrrhonist · · Score: 1
      If the pussy is green, there is definitely something wrong with it.

      I for one, welcome our new vagina-bearing overlords... (Sorry, you had that one coming...)

      I don't want to think about what that looks like.

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    31. Re:Here's the reason... by twiddlingbits · · Score: 1

      Kirk vs Q for control of the Universe? Kirk vs Q might be an interesting idea. She how long Kirk puts up with him before he offs him with a phaser.

    32. Re:Here's the reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I saw a green pussy last night.... your mother's.

    33. Re:Here's the reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm going to tell her to charge you twice as much next time, you insensitive clod.

    34. Re:Here's the reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You've never been to rotten.com, have you?

    35. Re:Here's the reason... by mefus · · Score: 1

      hmm, take a look at Bush's Wild Ride:

      http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=^IXIC&t=my&l=off &z =l&q=l&c=

      (that fourth crevice on the front of the precipice is 9/11)

      ps. Hey George, stuff that in your trunk and snort it, you f**kwad coke head.

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    36. Re:Here's the reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      hmm, take a look at Bush's Wild Ride:
      Clicked it. It don't do nuthin'. What's it 'posed to be?
    37. Re:Here's the reason... by RLiegh · · Score: 1

      Christ, you went to medical school just to learn that?!?!?

    38. Re:Here's the reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks for tonight's spank material!

  10. Name your own time warp by MrLint · · Score: 4, Funny

    I wonder if shatner got paramount a good priceline price on the time warp to send Kirk back into the past.

    1. Re:Name your own time warp by JabberWokky · · Score: 2, Funny
      I wonder if shatner got paramount a good priceline price on the time warp to send Kirk back into the past.

      Well, madness takes it's toll.

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  11. yuck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    jesus, way to ruin a good series..

    i am sooo f-ing sick of time travel crap in trek..

  12. Uhm?? by heir2chaos · · Score: 2, Interesting

    And how do they work around the fact that he's now an old fart?

    1. Re:Uhm?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do what they did in Star Trek VI when they digitally remastered his ass, but this time his face.

    2. Re:Uhm?? by gfxguy · · Score: 1, Insightful

      They said "Shatner" not "James T. Kirk."

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    3. Re:Uhm?? by MisanthropicProgram · · Score: 1

      Actually, you're right. I once saw this show on "TLC", I think, and they showed how they (photographers) manipulate photos. They actually had to touch Cindy Crawford in a photo. I thought there wasn't anything wrong with Cindy, but they had to slim down her thighs. It can be done for Bill too.

    4. Re:Uhm?? by skinfitz · · Score: 1

      They said "Shatner" not "James T. Kirk."

      erm... ^^

      Tycoon Guy writes "Is that the sound of desperation I hear? TrekToday is reporting that, according to a trailer shown at CBS Television City, William Shatner will be appearing on Star Trek: Enterprise for a two-episode guest stint - as James T. Kirk!

      ...and from the original article...

      "Join us this fall for a 2-episode special as William Shatner returns to the Star Trek universe, as James T. Kirk."

      Bear in mind this whole story is based on a posting on a message board, so to be taken with a large pinch of salt.

  13. Yeah right by timealterer · · Score: 5, Funny

    The sheer number of times he's suggested he'll never do any more Star Trek is starting to make me think he just says it to up the price he gets the next time he does it.

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    1. Re:Yeah right by ackthpt · · Score: 1
      The sheer number of times he's suggested he'll never do any more Star Trek is starting to make me think he just says it to up the price he gets the next time he does it.

      Maybe he'll do the SNL Star Trek Convention soliloquy. :-)

      "I mean, get a life!"

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    2. Re:Yeah right by Chanchiya · · Score: 1

      Online chat I had once...

      Moderator: <Chanchiya> to <Moderator>: Mr. Shatner, would you appear on Star Trek again as another character if the opportunity rose?

      WilliamShatner: No, I would not. And duty calls in the form of the audience that I have to appear in front of.

      WilliamShatner: So let me say goodbye for now.

    3. Re:Yeah right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He's not showing up as another character, he's showing up as Kirk...

    4. Re:Yeah right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      The sheer number of times he's suggested he'll never do any more Star Trek is starting to make me think he just says it to up the price he gets the next time he does it.
      Which is pretty damn smart, if you think about it.
    5. Re:Yeah right by Justin205 · · Score: 1

      Well, that is the smart way to do it. If you're gonna star in a show as pathetic as Enterprise is becoming, at least make a heap of (American) cash while you're at it.

      --
      "Your effort to remain what you are is what limits you."
  14. Theme... by ackthpt · · Score: 4, Informative
    They should open with the Star Trekkin theme by The Firm.

    More entertaining Trek stuff can be found here, though they have some bandwidth limitations and it requiresflash. You may check for StoneTrek here, too.

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    1. Re:Theme... by kaszeta · · Score: 1
      They should open with the Star Trekkin theme by The Firm.

      "Boldy going forward, 'cause we can't find reverse!"

  15. Bones by paul248 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now they just have to put McCoy on with him... "I'm dead, Jim."

    1. Re:Bones by joeytmann · · Score: 1

      Now they just have to put McCoy on with him... "I'm dead, Jim."

      Wouldn't it be...."I haven't been born yet, Jim."..?

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      Insert funny smart-ass comment here.
    2. Re:Bones by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      It's a fate worse than death... pre-life!!

      --

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    3. Re:Bones by Enonu · · Score: 2, Funny

      Or maybe Rick James doing bones, "God damn it Jim, I'm doctor, not the king of funk, bitch."

  16. Sounds cool to me... by JohnGrahamCumming · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just so long as they also bring back the mini-skirted 1960s era women whose job was to have Kirk fall in love with them. And make sure that they have too much make-up on and for some reason get to hang around the bridge even though they don't work there.

    John.

    1. Re:Sounds cool to me... by dr_dank · · Score: 1

      Maybe as a nod to the Tribble time travel episode of DS9, they'll look at the TOS fashions versus the modern-looking uniforms and say "we don't discuss it with outsiders".

      --
      Where does the school board find them and why do they keep sending them to ME?
    2. Re:Sounds cool to me... by flakac · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Just so long as they also bring back the mini-skirted 1960s era women..."

      Otherwise known as the Austin Powers series...

    3. Re:Sounds cool to me... by davidsyes · · Score: 1

      NO,

      Then he'll have to contaminate the ST:TNG timeline and get a Dr Pulaski Picard Heart. At least Picard's heart was from a foolish fight with a Naussican. Krik's, umm, Kirk's ticker will be from fooling around with the babe-lines...

      David Syes

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    4. Re:Sounds cool to me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      damn those andorian heart worms. no more antennilingus for you, good captain!

    5. Re:Sounds cool to me... by KDN · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I just rememember when DS9 had their tribble episode (More Tribbles, More Trouble?) and Dax had the TOS uniform. HOLY S!!!!!!!! did she look hot!

    6. Re:Sounds cool to me... by davidsyes · · Score: 1

      Kirk:

      Writhing on back

      (Sound: Kirk-wrestle-fight music)

      duh-duh duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh-duh-duh-duh..

      duh-duh duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh-duh

      (Kirk-is-now-on-his-back-fighting-for-his-lie-if e. . Kirk-is-now-on-his-back-fighting-for-his-lieeee-if eeffe...)

      Kirk:

      You're--bee--ing--tooo---ROUGH!

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    7. Re:Sounds cool to me... by linzeal · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That was about how klingons looked not the uniforms. Worf said that when he saw a 1960's klingon, god I feel like a geek.

    8. Re:Sounds cool to me... by dr_dank · · Score: 1

      Yep, I remember the episode. You can't make exactly the same joke for lack of Klingons, but the faithful would laugh.

      --
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    9. Re:Sounds cool to me... by delus10n0 · · Score: 1

      When did Dax NOT look hot?

      Exactly, never.

      --
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    10. Re:Sounds cool to me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If they do, you might be in for a most unpleasant suprise.

    11. Re:Sounds cool to me... by slashdot_commentator · · Score: 1

      That TOS episode was the *only* time Terry Farrell was truly *hot*. The whole series she was in that boring TNG uniform, with a role reminiscent of a red shirt crewman.

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  17. Make your voice known by gowen · · Score: 4, Funny

    Make your voice known, as hopefully a return will prevent him releasing any more terrible cover versions of good songs.

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    1. Re:Make your voice known by adagioforstrings · · Score: 2, Informative

      Uh...haven't you seen this?
      I'm actually a huge Ben Folds fan, so I'm very curious to see how it's going to turn out.

    2. Re:Make your voice known by Zebbers · · Score: 1

      Ben had positive things to say about the project, judging by his releases/website. I am really surprised about though as Ben is actually a musician and shatner is....shatner.

      Ben also will be appearing on Bills tour to play a few shows with him.

  18. Shatner older, more rotund by Faust7 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Man, unless he's time-traveling back, it'll be damn hard to make him look like the feisty young thing of the '60s.

    They'll have to slather him with makeup and airbrush half of him out of the frames.

    1. Re:Shatner older, more rotund by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most likely, they'd go *forward* in time to the time period of Kirk instead of the the other way around.

    2. Re:Shatner older, more rotund by davidsyes · · Score: 1

      Actually,

      They can digitize him out, or animate him in. Just as long as they don't "Anime" him in.

      Heck, for all the work of animation, they may as well just digitize him from the 60's and animate him in. Might save a garbage scow load of Federation credits, or Triskelion quatloos...

      David Syes

      --
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    3. Re:Shatner older, more rotund by kalidasa · · Score: 1

      Precisely. Move him forward to just before the opening of Generations, and everything is explained.

    4. Re:Shatner older, more rotund by Snaller · · Score: 1

      They could, given the money, touch him up electronically (ooer missus) - they do it on many videos.

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  19. In totally unrelated news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... stock prices for toupee and corset makers went up sharply today.

  20. Re:I'm... getting too... old for THIS.... ... shit by JPelorat · · Score: 4, Funny

    Heh, geez, got any humorless mods here today? Oh yah, I see a couple right here. =P

    Fact: Shatner is too old to play Kirk in the Enterprise timeline without some serious higgledy-piggledy with said timeline.

    Probability: Yet Another Time Travel Adventure! YATTA!

    --
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  21. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 2, Informative

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  22. Khan, Khan, you've got Genesis... by loggia · · Score: 0, Redundant

    ... but you don't have me! You were going to kill me, Khan! You're going to have to come down here! You're going to have to come down here!

    Khan! Khan!!!!!!!!!

    1. Re:Khan, Khan, you've got Genesis... by provolt · · Score: 1

      I think you mean

      KHAAAN!

  23. Shatner in new ST not all bad.... by MortisUmbra · · Score: 5, Interesting

    To date my absolute favorite episode of Deep Space 9 was the Trials and Tribbleations episode, now, granted, they spliced them into an old TOS episode, but still. :)

    --

    "The saddest words of mice and men, are not those which were, but should have been."
    1. Re:Shatner in new ST not all bad.... by Cat_Byte · · Score: 1

      Yeah that was great. Tribbles! They really did a good job of splicing it in & making it seamless.

      --
      Two roads diverged in a wood, and I - I took the one the bus load of girls just went down.
    2. Re:Shatner in new ST not all bad.... by MortisUmbra · · Score: 1

      Yeah if i didnt know it wasnt spliced I don't think I would have been able to tell. It was just a light, funny episode that really exemplifies one of the reasons I like ST (sometimes....I'm far from its biggest fan on many days.)

      --

      "The saddest words of mice and men, are not those which were, but should have been."
    3. Re:Shatner in new ST not all bad.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      The Deep Space Nine episode guide goes into quite a bit of detail on how they made that episode, including the fact that they recreated several sets like Space Station K-7 (think that's the right number) and the Enterprise bridge.

    4. Re:Shatner in new ST not all bad.... by Plutor · · Score: 1

      To date? You expect them to release an episode of Deep Space Nine sometime in the near future that is better than that one? That might be hard, considering that the series ended years ago.

    5. Re:Shatner in new ST not all bad.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      To date? You expect them to release an episode of Deep Space Nine sometime in the near future that is better than that one? That might be hard, considering that the series ended years ago.


      OK. Sure, DS9 (TOS) is over, but the parent was referring to upcoming episodes of DS9 TNG.

    6. Re:Shatner in new ST not all bad.... by Embedded2004 · · Score: 1

      Its his best to date, maybe he has not watched them all yet, so possibly he might like another one better. I know I stopped watching DS9 one or two seasons in.

    7. Re:Shatner in new ST not all bad.... by Scrameustache · · Score: 1
      my absolute favorite episode of Deep Space 9 was the Trials and Tribbleations episode, now, granted, they spliced them into an old TOS episode, but still

      Me too.
      In fact, I find it quite telling that the best DS9 episode was 90% something else.

      1. Take best episode from a good show.
      2. Add characters from your own crappy show.
      3. PROFIT!

      Personally I just wish someone would kill Rick Berman in a violent and painfull way, and possibly wound that Mr. Braga, so that they will finally stop producing horrible TV shows with the name "Star Trek" deceptively tagged on.
      --

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    8. Re:Shatner in new ST not all bad.... by MortisUmbra · · Score: 1

      Someone give this man a cookie, he is 100% correct!

      --

      "The saddest words of mice and men, are not those which were, but should have been."
    9. Re:Shatner in new ST not all bad.... by MortisUmbra · · Score: 1

      Nifty! Too bad i can no longer mod in this thread. :(

      --

      "The saddest words of mice and men, are not those which were, but should have been."
    10. Re:Shatner in new ST not all bad.... by Buzz_Litebeer · · Score: 1

      Give me your name, address, social security number, and credit card number, then have him send me his name and address and I will send him a cookie on your behalf!

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    11. Re:Shatner in new ST not all bad.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It didn't get interesting until season 3 or 4, so you missed the best parts.

      I originally stopped watching somewhere in the middle of the second season, as well, now that I saw the rest just recently, it changed my view of the entire series.

  24. Like Elvis... by MisanthropicProgram · · Score: 1

    he was going through his youthful fat drugged out years back in "Enterprise"'s day.

  25. Would be simpler to use a digitally produced Kirk by syrinje · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Whether he will be featured in this new movie as the dashing, libidinous Kirk of the golden years (c'mon how difficult is it to contrive a story plot that zips through a time-warp?), or an old aging over-the-hill suited brass-hat admiral, Digital Kirk is probably a better choice than a Shatner-Kirk.

    The flexibility and dynamic range that this affords the director will make for a better movie.

    Now all we need is for someone to take hit Al Pacino over the head, steal his copy of Simpone and adapt :)

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    See that long UID - that's what you get for lurking too long
  26. Lame by iamdrscience · · Score: 5, Funny

    Nuts to Kirk, bring back Welshie!

    1. Re:Lame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Damn. This stupid moderation system has no "+1, Futurama Reference".

    2. Re:Lame by coleslawjoe · · Score: 1
    3. Re:Lame by gangien · · Score: 1

      I say bring back Wesley.

  27. Who's Next? by ackthpt · · Score: 1
    Now they just have to put McCoy on with him... "I'm dead, Jim."

    As popularized by National Lampoon, ages ago, who will be the next from the original cast to go to that big starship in the sky?

    --

    A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
    1. Re:Who's Next? by scowling · · Score: 1, Informative

      Doohan. He's got Alzheimer's and has been in and out of hospital constantly ove the last couple of years.

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      www.kitchengeek.com -- Nosh for
    2. Re:Who's Next? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I knew all along, since he bumped his head on a bulkhead in ST V.

    3. Re:Who's Next? by DrCash · · Score: 2, Funny
      He's Dim, Jed!

    4. Re:Who's Next? by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      Damn. Where's a transporter diagnostic cycle when you need one?!

      (not trying to be callous; just couldn't resist)

      --

      "[Regarding the 'cloud,'] ownership was what made America different than Russia." -- Woz

  28. Vomits into His Morning Cup of Joe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    NT = No test FOO!

  29. Straight up... by Aerog · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm looking forward to this. Why? Well, Enterprise isn't that bad. In fact, I quite enjoy watching it. Just take everything for face value and sit back. It can be pretty good when you give it a chance.

    Next, we have William Shatner; one of the people who is now simply famous for being/playing himself (Christopher Walken, Adam West, Leonard Nimoy, Ron Jeremy, etc.)

    I can see nothing bad coming from this. It could be really good and well written. Or, it could be cheesy, and I think I'd like it more in that case. Either way, between that and Corner Gas, I'm going to be quite entertained this season....

    --

    - Relativistic? That's barely Newtonian!
    1. Re:Straight up... by gfxguy · · Score: 1

      I like it, too... I wish they'd do more with the theme of them being the first earth crew exploring space...

      I really liked the idea of limited travel at slower speeds (they're already "finding" new ways to bump up the warp speed... at that rate, TNG would be going warp 90), I also like the smaller crew on a smaller, more cramped ship that more closely resembled a WWII era submarine than a luxury cruise ship. Unfortunately, they aren't playing on this... the trials and tribulations of space travel. They're too busy destroying timelines introducing aliens that don't seem to exist in the future (TOS, TNG...)

      It'll "jump the shark" when they somehow encounter the Borg.

      --
      Stupid sexy Flanders.
    2. Re:Straight up... by joebok · · Score: 1

      Thank you - finally a positive comment!! Why all the kirk/shatner bashing?

      Would there be ANY trek now if it were not for Shatner? Captain Kirk is one of the most memorable characters around - not because of the writing, not because of the special effects, not because of anything but what Shatner brought to the character. (And I give credit to the rest of the cast as well - without the equally credible characters of Spock, Bone, Scotty, and the rest we'd have no trek now either.)

      Captain Kirk is my hero, Picard will always be a wanna be...

    3. Re:Straight up... by Mateito · · Score: 1

      > William Shatner... Ron Jeremy

      Thanks. Shatner doing porn with The Hedgehog. Just the image I needed at lunchtime.

    4. Re:Straight up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The rumor is that shatner had a three way orgy with a Tribble and Uhura.

    5. Re:Straight up... by Mike+Van+Pelt · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I've kind of liked "Enterprise", too. They have had a few episodes that have plumbed the depths of putridity ("A Night Wasted in Sick Bay") but then, so did the original. ("Spock's Brain"? "And the Children Shall Lead"?) It's been mostly OK. Alas, it hasn't reached the heights that original Trek did, either, but some of the third season has been pretty good.

      But when I saw that Nazi alien in the season-ender, I had this feeling.... "Is that Captain Sam Beckett on a motorcycle? In the air? Is that a shark in a tank underneath him? Is he mutting 'Oh, boy'?"

      I don't see how they can bring James T. Kirk back with anything resembling any sense. If they didn't jump the shark already, this likely will do it.

      Would that there was some way to rewind back to the beginning of the series and start over from scratch, and add two absolute, inflexible, never-to-be-violated Commandments:

      I: Thou Shalt Not Time Travel. Never. Ever. There is no such thing. It does not exist. It shall never be mentioned as a possibility.

      II: Thou Shalt Not Ride The Transporter. Ideally, the transporter should not have been invented yet. Possibly, it exists as only a cargo-transport device, people are scared of it, and *no one* is willing to ride it. McCoy had an old-fashioned dislike of the transporter; maybe here we could see the fashionable thinking that became old in Kirk's time: The transporter destroys you utterly and makes a copy elsewhere. This is a Bad Thing.

    6. Re:Straight up... by kmcneely · · Score: 1

      http://www.jumptheshark.com/e/enterprise.htm They did, and it has received 21 votes so far.

    7. Re:Straight up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Corner gas is freakin hilarious!!! If you have ever been to a smalll prarie town, it is even funnier!!

    8. Re:Straight up... by fatcatman · · Score: 1

      It'll "jump the shark" when they somehow encounter the Borg.

      Uhhh, have you watched Enterprise? Been there, done that. They already encountered the Borg - frozen in Antarctica!

    9. Re:Straight up... by gfxguy · · Score: 1

      D'oh! Only off and on until I recently got a Tivo...

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      Stupid sexy Flanders.
    10. Re:Straight up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would have also said:

      III) no phasers until the second season (maybe instead give the ship super high powered rail guns that accelerate projectiles to relativistic velocities)
      IV) no photon torpedoes until the third or fourth season

      What I liked about the first few episodes is how much it felt like a NASA mission. Unfortunately, they quickly lost that, and degenerated into classic trek technobabble.

    11. Re:Straight up... by Captain+Nitpick · · Score: 1

      Why all the kirk/shatner bashing?

      Would there be ANY trek now if it were not for Shatner?

      Asked and answered.

      --
      But then again, I could be wrong.
    12. Re:Straight up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Amen to THAT!!

      I liked ST, I really did, until it became the "time travel method of the week" show. Pathetic. I've even missed most of the Enterprise episodes. I managed to catch the last two of the season ending. And guess what, AGAIN, again, I said AGAIN they did time travel. I am so sick and tired of that sh*t. No more. As far as I'm concerned, the writers have simply lost it. No more for me thanks, I'll stay in this time stream.

    13. Re:Straight up... by Quixadhal · · Score: 1

      Actually, the transporter WAS a brand new thing in the Enterprise timeline. It wasn't supposed to be used for transporting living beings yet.

      I agree though, I think any civilization that has trouble developing energy shields, probably doesn't have a firm enough grasp on that level of physics to be pulling people apart and putting them together again... at least not correctly.

      It *would* be an interesting story to show how the previous use of the (untested and unrefined) transporter has actually screwed up everyone that's been through it. Flip a few bits here and there, and the person that comes out isn't quite the one that went in. Having subtle hints of that happening would make for good sci-fi -- but of coruse, I forget... with B&B in charge, Archer would have to come out of the beam with a third eye in his chest or something.

      Time Travel.... hehehehe.... GIR! I NEED MORE PIGGIES!!!!!

    14. Re:Straight up... by tehcyder · · Score: 1
      Christopher Walken
      Oooh, that's a bit unfair, Mr Walken has actually done some real acting you know.

      --
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  30. I wonder if... by noahproblem · · Score: 1

    he'll try to save the day by using his old WebTV box (after the ship's computer have all crashed).

  31. Lame by stratjakt · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So Enterprise takes place, what a couple centuries before TOS, so somehow old fat Elvis^h^h^hKirk travels back in time to join the crew?

    The lamest thing in Star Trek is the sloppy way they throw time travel in as a weak plot device to jam characters from the campy old 60s show into the modern ones. The TNG episodes with old timey characters: a 400 year old Bones, a Scotty who'd been stuck in a transporter beam for centuries, Spock - a vulcan who lives for centuries, shows up and even though physiologically he shouldnt be that much older, he looks like King Tut's corpse.

    I guess it would be too much work to try and make Enterprise a genuinely interesting show. I'm sure the "James T Kirk appears on a very special Enterprise" promos will spike their ratings a point or two for the first half of the episode, then people tune out after realizing that the show just plain stinks.

    Maybe Shatner will kill this crappy show. Perhaps Scott Bakula will mysteriously turn up floating face-down in a swimming pool.

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  32. TrekToday and TrekBBS by falcon5768 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    are about as accurate as Aintitcoolnews... these ARE the same guys who reported on a fake news article someone posed saying Enterprise was canciled...

    Odds are he will be on, but as a ancestor much like Data will be on (playing his creators great great grandfather and one of the scientists who created Khan durring the eugenics war)

    But if the recent word on whats going to take place this year holds true (Vulcan war created by the still unseen romulans which explains the vulcans additude the previous three seasons, end of the TCW storyline and a wrap up of last season, the eugenics war storyline involving tracking down the escaped scientist. more andorian storylines.. to name a few) then Enterprise might have finally recreated it's self as a preqel and not a revision.

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    1. Re:TrekToday and TrekBBS by ChristTrekker · · Score: 1

      Well, Shatner did "play" Kirk's brother Sam. According to the novels (I know, non-canon, but a heck of a lot better stories than the dreck Paramount has been producing the last 10 years) there is a strong resemblance among the male half of the Kirk family.

  33. The man couldn't even save Iron Chef USA by Optical+Voodoo+Man · · Score: 4, Funny

    How can expect that poor old man to save Enterprise when he couldn't even float Iron Chef USA? "Today's theme ingredient is... TIME TRAVEL"

    1. Re:The man couldn't even save Iron Chef USA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      NOBODY could have saved Iron Chef USA. Shatner was the best thing in that horrid show since he successfully did the flamboyant character type of Chairman, although casting him was wrong. The Chairman should be a near unknown. But then, every single thing in the show was done wrong. Those morans produced it like a wrestling match, and focused heavily on character and not at all on food. They alienated Iron Chef fans and bewildered wrestling fans alike. Oy! Don't get me started!

      As for Enterprise I'm going to guess he appears durting the wrap up to the temporal wars, where Archer is brought forward to some future senate for an adventure, where he meets James T, older, retired, who has gone into politics. They team up on something important. Just a guess!

  34. Sigh. . . by the+gnat · · Score: 1

    This news just makes me wish there was another season of "Farscape" coming up. Or, hell, another season of ST:TNG.

    Slightly off-topic, but people here seem to have loved "Firefly". I don't own a TV so I'm limited in what I can watch and I never saw any episodes, but could someone explain why they like it so much? If it sounds good, I'll download a few episodes and see for myself. The quest for non-crappy SF on TV is a slow one.

    1. Re:Sigh. . . by taustin · · Score: 4, Funny

      This news just makes me wish there was another season of "Farscape" coming up. Or, hell, another season of ST:TNG.

      Or another season of black filler between the commercials. Or another season of static. Or another season of being kicked in the groin by a large horse.

    2. Re:Sigh. . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      "Firefly" is good because of the same reason the TNG was good. There arn't crazy special effects, or crazy intense computer generated graphics, just good story and good actors. Firefly in my opinion has the best un-noticed cast I've ever seen. I was really skeptical on the series, but after watching the pilot and one episode, I was hooked. I now own the whole series on dvd.

    3. Re:Sigh. . . by Crzysdrs · · Score: 0

      There IS another season/mini series of Farscape coming up. Its called the 'Peacekeeper Wars', they keep promo-ing it during Stargate SG1.

    4. Re:Sigh. . . by Vaevictis666 · · Score: 2, Informative
      Trust us, download the first episode and give it a go.

      I like it because it doesn't take itself _too_ seriously, and uses the sci-fi setting more as a means than an end. Sure, they're on a space ship, but that's just a "home" that moves.

      It also focuses more on the characters than the tech (which Trek does a lot)

    5. Re:Sigh. . . by Colazar · · Score: 1
      Just make sure you start with the actual *Pilot* (called Serenity, I think, though that's also the name of the upcoming movie), and not the episode that aired first. (The Train Job) It will make a lot more sense that way.

      I have to say that the Firefly pilot is probably the best Pilot episode of any TV show I have ever seen. (Not that that is particularly difficult--most pilots suck.) Too bad it was the last episode aired, after they'd already decided to cancel the series.

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      He decided to just watch the government, and kind of scale it down to size, and run his life that way. --Laurie Anderson
    6. Re:Sigh. . . by iNetRunner · · Score: 1

      Yep, it was good.. But sadly not too many others think so too, and you only own 12 other episodes. :(

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      Store with salt
    7. Re:Sigh. . . by paganizer · · Score: 2, Insightful

      PLEASE don't compare the Politically Correct, Socialist Nirvana TNG with gritty, realistic Firefly. It's just not right.
      You can get away with comparing it with TOS (even comparing it favorably). but thats about it.

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      Why, yes, I AM a Pagan Libertarian.
    8. Re:Sigh. . . by Vaevictis666 · · Score: 1
      Yeah, fox's handling of the whole thing kinda sucked. They decided they wanted a more exciting, action packed episode to start off with (even though it's not a hugely action-oriented show - it does have its moments though) and that caused no end of greif...

      In one hour (42 minutes total) they had to introduce 9 characters, give them reasons for being together, _and_ tell a good story? Not a good recipe. Then they kinda jumped around temporally with some of the other eps that make backreferences, and it just got confusing.

      As Colazar says, start from the beginning, and enjoy. (If you're evil like me and torrent it, they'll be in the right order. If you do like it, I recommend the dvd version though - support the good shows when they're cheap :)

    9. Re:Sigh. . . by MortisUmbra · · Score: 1

      No, what made Firefly great was the FANTASTIC writing, man, the dialogue and banter on that show was great. It had a hell of an attitude and the writing to back it up :) That other stuff didnt hurt though.

      --

      "The saddest words of mice and men, are not those which were, but should have been."
  35. Time line... by MisanthropicProgram · · Score: 3, Interesting
    How do you folks calculate the timeline? If "Enterprise" is 100 years before "Star Trek", then how would it work? Time travel?? Wesley Crusher, having been with Cpt. Kirk on "Weakest Link" decided to take him back in time ....

    Oh, shit, you can fill in the blanks with your own imagination...

    1. Re:Time line... by Cat_Byte · · Score: 3, Funny
      How do you folks calculate the timeline? If "Enterprise" is 100 years before "Star Trek", then how would it work? Time travel??

      Easy. He probably knocked up some chick in the 80s when they went back to get that whale. It'll be his illigitimate son.

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      Two roads diverged in a wood, and I - I took the one the bus load of girls just went down.
    2. Re:Time line... by gfxguy · · Score: 1

      Informative and interesting? I think he was going for "funny." Anyway, I'm pretty tired of this response... sure, if Shatner is going to be on the show at all (not confirmed, really), then they might screw it up with Kirk and time-travel. On the other hand, he might be some blob on some planet they have to destroy for some reason... who says he has to be J. T. Kirk?

      --
      Stupid sexy Flanders.
    3. Re:Time line... by MisanthropicProgram · · Score: 1

      Dude,or, Dudette, think about it, one hundred years before "Enterprise" - can someone live that long?

    4. Re:Time line... by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      Wait, he brought Gillian back with him! That means he must have knocked up two 80's chicks... oh wait.

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  36. This in addition to his relaunched singing career by electricmba · · Score: 2, Interesting

    His most recent effort was that he submitted a song parody entry to the Howard Stern show, with a cover of Vinny's "Restless, Restless" song. He's also got a forthcoming album...and covers Pulp's "Common People" with Joe Jackson that you can listen to here: http://www.shoutfactory.com/av/common_people.mov As with anything Shatner...it is fantastic in its monotone delivery :)

  37. Memepool by mark0 · · Score: 1

    It never would have occurred to me to send in an article from memepool, but there was an entry for this site just a few days ago.

  38. Re:So much for keeping any hint of a coherent seri by JudgeFurious · · Score: 5, Funny

    Because, to borrow and change a quote:

    They've done far worse than kill you. They've hurt you and they wish to go on hurting you. They shall leave you as you left Voyager, as you left Deep Space Nine, marooned. for all eternity in the center of a dead science fiction universe: buried alive (with your television set).

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  39. Un-PC Comment Coming (Shield Your Eyes) by grunt107 · · Score: 1

    And don't forget the guest appearance by Scotty:

    "I dunna think..."

    1. Re:Un-PC Comment Coming (Shield Your Eyes) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It would more appropriate as "I dunna remember"

    2. Re:Un-PC Comment Coming (Shield Your Eyes) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's a difference betwean being pollitically correct, and not being an ass. He's reportably a nice guy, going through one of the most painful and humiliating deaths possible. Making jokes about it is just crude.

  40. They should CGI in a more youthful Shatner.... by jjh37997 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Man, unless he's time-traveling back, it'll be damn hard to make him look like the feisty young thing of the '60s.
    They'll have to slather him with makeup and airbrush half of him out of the frames.

    Maybe they can do the same thing they did for the guy in Lord of the Rings who played Gollum. Have Shatner on the set acting with all the other characters and then CGI an image of how he looked back in the 60's on top. Like a virtual face lift.

    1. Re:They should CGI in a more youthful Shatner.... by thomas.galvin · · Score: 1

      Maybe they can do the same thing they did for the guy in Lord of the Rings who played Gollum. Have Shatner on the set acting with all the other characters and then CGI an image of how he looked back in the 60's on top. Like a virtual face lift.

      They did basically this for Anthony Hopkins in Red Dragon; a digital 10-year facelift.

    2. Re:They should CGI in a more youthful Shatner.... by dilvish_the_damned · · Score: 1

      The advanced facial expressions and flowing dialog would be too realistic when superimposed on a young shatner, our minds would reject portrayal as being 'fake'.
      Better to use some of the old Hanna-Barbera technology with stop action and puppets like they did in Space 1999.

      --
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    3. Re:They should CGI in a more youthful Shatner.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >Better to use some of the old Hanna-Barbera technology with stop action and puppets like they did in Space 1999.

      Do they have the budget for that? How about a Shatner sock puppet?

      (and because everyone else has said it: KHAAAAAAAN!!!)

    4. Re:They should CGI in a more youthful Shatner.... by worf_mo · · Score: 1

      They'd be able to CGI half the TOS crew on top of the current Shatner...

    5. Re:They should CGI in a more youthful Shatner.... by Snaller · · Score: 1

      They could - but they probably don't have the budget - don't forget it was slashed it half for this season...

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  41. Awesome by c0dedude · · Score: 4, Funny
    Reminds me of this quote from bash.org:
    <studmuffn> ive been to one star trek convention, and i was 14
    <studmuffn> it was cool. patrick stewart was there
    <studmuffn> they told us not to ask why they cant fix baldness in the 24th century
    Brilliant!
    --
    Since when has this country used intellectual elite as a pejorative term?
    1. Re:Awesome by Saeger · · Score: 1
      <studmuffn> they told us not to ask why they cant fix baldness in the 24th century

      But that would be an easy question to answer: "Baldness, as well as every other bio-problem you can name, was solved early in the 21st century despite the short-sightedness of a few powerful religious luddites (the Bushies). The reason, then, that Jean Luc was bald, is that he chose to be. Recall that he never married, and that he wasn't much for vanity, so what use did he have to fake a "youthful vitality" at age 70?"

      A good follow up question to ask would be: "then why the hell do people in the trek utopia choose to age? Aging is a genetic disease with a 100% mortality rate! And why no brain backups if not outright transhumanism? Spock had a brain transplant if you remember. The technology is there!" A likely answer: "We have to anthropomorphize the show for today's human viewing audience!!!! ok!?! Got it!" :)

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    2. Re:Awesome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually the luddites are more correctly called Ashcrofts not Bushies, trust me the Atty Gen. makes a much better boogey man.

    3. Re:Awesome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      FFS, why can't liberals STFU for a while and leave politics out of it.

    4. Re:Awesome by Snaller · · Score: 1

      Because its the way he looks, nothing something which needs to be "fixed".

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  42. Two ways by www.sorehands.com · · Score: 1
    1. He is there from the episode where he ages rapidly.


    2. Lots of special effect makeup.

    1. Re:Two ways by mahdi13 · · Score: 3, Funny

      I don't know if special effects are good enough to do that, after all the camera adds 10 pounds...how do they explain the other 100 pounds?

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      "Some things have to be believed to be seen." - Ralph Hodgson
    2. Re:Two ways by Cpt_Kirks · · Score: 1

      I for one think this is a superb idea. And it's not "100 pounds", it's 97, dammit!

      Bring on the Green Chicks!
      (Did you see the tongue on that Orian Slave Girl?)

    3. Re:Two ways by pjt33 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Another ten cameras?

  43. Where to begin? by spidergoat2 · · Score: 3, Funny

    First, he was more interesting and more fun on The Practice as Denny Craine. The Enterprise should go back and meet Denny. Second, they should use the animated Kirk from the cartoon series. That Kirk was a better actor.

    1. Re:Where to begin? by iphayd · · Score: 1

      The fun bit is that "The Practice" has morphed into "Boston Legal", which stars James Spader, William Shatner, Rhona Mitra, and Lake Bell. Essentially the last few months of "The Practice" was a preview of "Boston Legal", so Denny Crane will be a regular character on TV in the fall.

    2. Re:Where to begin? by God!+Awful+2 · · Score: 1

      The fun bit is that "The Practice" has morphed into "Boston Legal", which stars James Spader, William Shatner, Rhona Mitra, and Lake Bell. Essentially the last few months of "The Practice" was a preview of "Boston Legal", so Denny Crane will be a regular character on TV in the fall.

      Sure in the fall, but what's he going to do in the spring?

      (Actually Shatner and Spader are pretty funny on that show, but the plot lines haven't really measured up to last season's the Practice yet.)

      -a

    3. Re:Where to begin? by iphayd · · Score: 1

      Where are you getting the plot lines?

    4. Re:Where to begin? by God!+Awful+2 · · Score: 1

      Where are you getting the plot lines?

      I mean that last year, the Practice gradually morphed into Boston Legal. The plot lines of James Spader as a destructive force within (and fighting against) the practice were far more compelling than the preview plotlines of Boston Legal.

      -a

  44. Like a bad pun by GlassUser · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's been a long time since I've actually groaned aloud from reading a slashdot headline. Eh, thanks I guess.

    1. Re:Like a bad pun by drkich · · Score: 1

      What is really funny is that when I read your post, I was singing "Rocket Man", except with Shattner singing it.

      "It's... been a long... long... time since... etc..."

  45. going offer discount travel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    From what I read on the rumor boards this is a tie-in with Priceline where Shatner has been frozen from the 20th century and will revived to deliver on travel pitches to the crew of the first enterprise. personally I am getting tired of shows sneaking in advertising into shows. We know it is impossible that Shatner cannot revive the role of Kirk. Current medical technology does not have a girdle yet can restrain Shatner's current explosive girth for him to play kirk. Also his hairpiece is currently in court suing of residuals from the TOS reruns.

  46. Open Letter to William Shatner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Dear Mr. Shatner,

    How can we miss you if you won't go away?

    Best regards,
    Everybody

  47. Star Trek XII: So Very Tired. by Kenja · · Score: 5, Funny

    Captians Log: "Had trouble sleeping last night; my hiatal hernia is acting up. The ship is drafty and damp. I complain, but nobody listens."

    --

    "Have you ever thought about just turning off the TV, sitting down with your kids, and hitting them?"
    1. Re:Star Trek XII: So Very Tired. by Tokerat · · Score: 4, Funny


      "Capitains Log, Stardate 1423964; I've lost my toupe and girdle, and can't leave my room" - Tom, MST3K

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      CAn'T CompreHend SARcaSm?
    2. Re:Star Trek XII: So Very Tired. by advocate_one · · Score: 1

      Captain's Log... stardate 94739 "I have no mouth and I must scream..."

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      Donald 'Duck' Dunn: We had a band powerful enough to turn goat piss into gasoline.
  48. That's nice, but by M.+Baranczak · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm still waiting for a sequel to Shatner's early masterpiece "Incubus."

    "Mysteria... profunde... amor!"

    1. Re:That's nice, but by fejikso · · Score: 1

      Not even being an esperantist myself will make me say that Incubus is a masterpiece.

      I don't know what I missed, but it didn't seem a good movie at all.

  49. This doesn't work... by rpsoucy · · Score: 1

    Enterprise takes place before the origional Star Trek. Captin Kirk either wouldn't even be born, or would only be a small child. William Shatner is _old_ now. Is this just a ploy to get higher ratings?

    Gene is rolling in his grave right now.

    1. Re:This doesn't work... by gfxguy · · Score: 1

      I'll say it again... since you probably won't see my other responses, while I think the whole idea is stupid, the truth is that Shatner is an actor, and Kirk is a role... so he might come back as Kirk, or he might come back in some other role. I read the article, and it didn't claim he'd be Kirk.

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      Stupid sexy Flanders.
  50. I Think I'm Going to be Ill... by ewhac · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Don't get me wrong; I think Shatner has entered his period of self-parody very gracefully (the latest Priceline commercials are really cute). But to re-enter the role of Kirk means playing it straight, and I just don't think he can pull that off anymore.

    But more importantly, I think it shows just how creatively bankrupt Star Trek has gotten under Berman's watch. I lost interest in DS9 at about season two, watched perhaps half a dozen episodes of Voyager, and saw Enterprise's pilot, but that's about it. Maybe I'm getting old and crochety, but there's just no sense of wonder there anymore.

    Schwab

    1. Re:I Think I'm Going to be Ill... by Maestro4k · · Score: 4, Insightful
      • But more importantly, I think it shows just how creatively bankrupt Star Trek has gotten under Berman's watch. I lost interest in DS9 at about season two, watched perhaps half a dozen episodes of Voyager, and saw Enterprise's pilot, but that's about it. Maybe I'm getting old and crochety, but there's just no sense of wonder there anymore.
      I agree with you mostly but you might want to check out the 3rd season of Enterprise if you haven't. Having the main storyline continuing through the entire season really made a difference, and it was nice to see things like the ship getting damaged (heavily) and the damage not magically being repaired the next episode. As a matter of fact the ship looks like only the strutural integrity field is holding it together at the end. Things got pretty intense there at the end too. It was far and away the best episodes of the series so far. Maybe they're finally getting back on track a bit.

      As for the Shatner coming back as Kirk thing, I suspect it will be either 1.) He's not really goign to be Kirk but an ancestor as someone else suggested or 2.) We will get another glimpse of the future through Daniels and that's where Kirk will show up. He'll be in his proper time period so no continuity hijinx.

    2. Re:I Think I'm Going to be Ill... by Shadow+Wrought · · Score: 2, Insightful
      But more importantly, I think it shows just how creatively bankrupt Star Trek has gotten under Berman's watch.

      Amen. I made it through Part I of the Enterprise pilot but couldn't stomache watching any more of it. To me the original series is canon. Period. Until Berman either A) realizes it or B) leaves the helm; the entire universe will continue to suffer.

      The Star Trek universe was amazingly constructed by Roddenberry. It allowed for the exploration of countless topics through the lens of thousands of alien worlds. Rodenberry did more in three years with far smaller resources than Berman has managed to do with FOUR different series now! That's what's so frustrating. Watching a vast powerful creative universe be strangled by an obnoxious ego.

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    3. Re:I Think I'm Going to be Ill... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do they HAVE a structural integrity field on Enterprise? I thought that got added only in the TNG era...

      (I can't believe I'm posting this)

    4. Re:I Think I'm Going to be Ill... by slashdot_commentator · · Score: 1
      I agree with you mostly but you might want to check out the 3rd season of Enterprise if you haven't

      It was the third season that convinced me to turn my back on Star Trek, period. It was horrificly lame. It made Voyager episodes (pre-7of9) watchable, by comparison. Archer mad, grrrr. T'pol does the logical, Vulcan decision and turns her back on her Vulcan career, and her people. The rest of the crew become a pack of whiners. And ugh, that transparent claptrap of a season theme of the U.S.S Enterprise fighting the terrorists, I mean Xindi. And how its okay to blow up people in the name of pre-emptive self interest. Yippee, its the best sci-fi a Bush worshiping cretin could ask for. And we know how intellectually open that audience can be. If Roddenberry was alive, he'd kill himself after seeing how Paramount raped his creation.

      Oooh, Enterprise has a story line this year. Golly gee, that must make it great science fiction! How original, just like DS9, B5, Blakes7, and a hundred other TV shows before it. Oooh, the ship gets damaged and stays damaged. Gee, that makes it realistic and believeable. Just like using a transporter 100 years before they perfected it, and kicking alien ass with fledgling space faring technology. And when you don't have a holodeck, I guess you have to go with time travel and "what if" episodes instead. Everyone knows the best episodes were the holodeck episodes... Go back to the soulless Star Wars dorks you came from!

      The original poster said it best: There's no sense of wonder there anymore. And if that is the case, do you really think the previous response addressed your issues? You have much better ways of spending your time than catch up on incredibly crappy Enterprise episodes. And if you watch that piece of crap, then you're supporting that piece of crap, and thus perpetuating that piece of crap. Once it was a idea with life, now its a rotting, unholy undead monster. If you loved the real Trek, let this perversion die.

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    5. Re:I Think I'm Going to be Ill... by Maestro4k · · Score: 1
      • Do they HAVE a structural integrity field on Enterprise? I thought that got added only in the TNG era...
      IIRC there was really one in the Kirk days as well, it was just never mentioned on air. It came up in the technical manuals and stuff. (Which I haven't actually read myself, flipped through a couple now and then to look at the pretty diagrams, but not read them.) I had some friends back in college who were rather gung-ho Star Trek fans so I learned a lot of stuff like that whether I wanted to or not. (On the bright side I was convinced to go to a con and got to meet James Doohan who is just a great guy.)

      It makes sense that they have to have one if going past about Warp 1. They're violating the normal laws of physics with the warp engine anyway so it's doubtful just plain physical strength could hold the ship together at higher speeds. Some kind of structural integrity field, tied into the engines no doubt, would likely be pre-requisite. Of course I could be wrong, I can't even figure out what warp speed they're really going since there's some crap about the warp speed numbers being different between TOS and TNG/DS9/VOY which I have no clue about.

      • (I can't believe I'm posting this)
      I can't believe I'm posting a response but I am bored and it was interesting to respond to. :)
    6. Re:I Think I'm Going to be Ill... by Snaller · · Score: 1

      Story Arc is to Enterprise what sex appeal is to Margaret Thatcher.

      (You wanna story arc watch Babylon 5)

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  51. nope for me by jayminer · · Score: 1

    I've given up Star Trek after the original series. The next generation never feels that much fascinating, even though the original series seem pretty much premature when compared to recent ones.

  52. How old is Shatner now, anyway? by DanielMarkham · · Score: 5, Funny

    He's got to be in his 60s, right? I wonder what they would do if they made all these big announcements and suddenly his health took a bad turn? How do series deal with signing really old actors, anyway?

    And sign me up for CGI kirk with Shatner doing the voice-overs. I don't think I have the stomach (or maybe he has too much of one) to see Bill jumping around the stage with a ripped shirt fighting some rubber lizard over a great-looking woman.

    Heck -- just get rid of all of them except the great-looking women. We could do a new show, sort of a cross between Baywatch and Trek. Something like "Nebula-Watch"

    1. Re:How old is Shatner now, anyway? by BoneFlower · · Score: 2, Informative

      William Shatner is 73.

      http://imdb.com/name/nm0000638/

    2. Re:How old is Shatner now, anyway? by LordIvan · · Score: 1

      Hey, it worked on Futurama...

    3. Re:How old is Shatner now, anyway? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He's got to be in his 60s, right?
      Born 22 March 1931, acc: imdb.com. That makes him 73.

    4. Re:How old is Shatner now, anyway? by Danathar · · Score: 1

      You can create a CGI Kirk? What Apache module allows that? And do you do it in Python or Perl?

    5. Re:How old is Shatner now, anyway? by DanielMarkham · · Score: 1

      Shatner runs under Apache. Didn't you see the episode where he turned into a Native American and got married?

      But alas, he doesn't scale so well. The only chick in the galaxy he hasn't made a move on is that Poly Morphism.

  53. priceline.com by Trespass · · Score: 1

    That's the first thing I thought of when you mentioned Shatner. The second thing? Maybe they should have him do a TJ Hooker/Enterprise crossover.

  54. The Thermians may be involved by Cat_Byte · · Score: 1

    They should have the Thermians involved to bring him back ;)

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  55. Let me guess... by cjpez · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... his return will involve a wormhole, travelling back through time, the Borg, and a holodeck malfunction (er, after travelling *forward* through time first, of course).

    1. Re:Let me guess... by Shadow+Wrought · · Score: 1

      Don't forget the part where Data goes wiggy.

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  56. Come on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I really think this qualifies as another classic example of an aging, former television personality not wanting to admit that is it over for them. I mean the Priceline adverts I can handle. But any attempt to rekindle his former glory as Cpt. Kirk should be met with some sort of stun ray from the infamous phasers.

    1. Re:Come on by StalinsNotDead · · Score: 1

      This might not be solely his idea. If this Enterprise show is as unpopular as the belly-aching suggests, the producers of the show may be getting a bit desperate to increase viewer-ship.

      Personally, I have seen a total of two episodes. They were alright. At least they include species from the Original series (Andorians).

      For anyone who's seen a high percentage of episodes (if such a creature exists), have they included any of the other species from the Original Series? Tellerites, Orions, Tholians, or Gorn. These last two may have been newly encountered in the Original Series, but from what I've read "continuity" may be a curse word to the producers.

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    2. Re:Come on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, when something was first encountered doesn't phase them a bit. They had Borg on for christsakes. And don't even ask about what happened to the big Romulan war that was supposed to happen...

  57. The Temporal Prime Directive by StalinsNotDead · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There was an episode on one of the spin-off shows (Voyager?) wherein there was an organization similar to starfleet, but with the responsibility to keep the timeline clean. Maybe the next spin-off (Time Trek) should be about those guys. What, with all the time-travel as an explanation that seems to be occuring recently.

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    1. Re:The Temporal Prime Directive by stratjakt · · Score: 1

      Cartoon Network already has that show, it's called Time Squad, and is better written than anything that well ever spew from even the most talented Star Trek writers powerbook.

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    2. Re:The Temporal Prime Directive by spaceyhackerlady · · Score: 1

      That was Deep Space Nine that introduced Temporal Investigations.

      Done right (and used sparingly), some of the best Star Trek episodes have involved time travel/alternate reality - think of Mirror, Mirror, Yesterday's Enterprise and, yes, Trials and Tribblations.

      Excessive use of time travel has since become a copout. If all problems can be solved with a bit of time travel, where is the drama? And why don't they use time travel as a tool (think The End of Eternity), rather than merely as an all-too-convenient plot device?

      ...laura

    3. Re:The Temporal Prime Directive by Scrameustache · · Score: 1

      And why don't they use time travel as a tool (think The End of Eternity), rather than merely as an all-too-convenient plot device?

      Meh, if you start thinking like that, you'll end up wondering why they don't put their critically ill patients in suspended animation until they find the damn cure instead of letting a few red shirts die before saving the important people at the very last moment. Then you wonder when in future history the technology of the circuit breaker was lost, leading to a neverending stream of exploding computer terminals...

      Then its only a short hop to the "why isn't there a big ol' OFF switch on the holodeck" train of thought and from there, madness.

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      You can't take the sky from me...

    4. Re:The Temporal Prime Directive by silentbozo · · Score: 1

      The big problem with time travel on Star Trek is that it's used as a convenient reset button - get the crew into an impossible situation, blow everything up, kill everyone off, and push the reset button at the end of the episode to restore the timeline. Other than being really annoying, it contributes nothing to the storyline (the alternate future/past/present doesn't exist anymore) and usually nobody realizes this, or only one person does, but they never make anything of it. As a consequence, it does nothing to develop character either, which is one of the critical components of sustaining a series.

      This is why, aside from them giving the Doctor a holo-emitter, and changing Janeway's hairstyle, you can pretty much watch any episode of Voyager, and everybody is exactly the same - no development. At least DS9 had an ongoing storyline...

    5. Re:The Temporal Prime Directive by Joe+Tie. · · Score: 1

      This is why, aside from them giving the Doctor a holo-emitter, and changing Janeway's hairstyle, you can pretty much watch any episode of Voyager, and everybody is exactly the same - no development.

      My favorite was when Neelix was raised from the dead by Seven of Nine. You'd think people would be talking about that for years to come on the ship, this is the kind of thing religions are founded on - or at least huge new avenues of medical science. But of course it's never brought up again. What was really disapointing though was that Neelix actually became interesting for an episode as he worked to come to terms with the theological implications. His entire personality changed, but then of course...by the next episode he was as dull as ever.

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      Everything will be taken away from you.
    6. Re:The Temporal Prime Directive by CaptainAvatar · · Score: 1

      Neelix? Interesting even for an episode? Surely you jest!

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      The real Captain Avatar is a fictional character, so I suppose he doesn't mind if I impersonate him.
  58. Enterpise: Greatest Hits by khasim · · Score: 4, Funny

    All your favourite characters!

    Kirk!
    Data!
    Quark's mother!
    The guy in the red shirt that got eaten by the monster on that planet they were trapped on!
    We even have a special appearance by a cartoon Kzinti!
    And Captain Janeway!

    All the best from every Star Trek series, movie and cartoon EVER produced!

    See Captain Kirk battle the Obsidian Order to save Beverly Crusher!

    1. Re:Enterpise: Greatest Hits by Chess_the_cat · · Score: 2, Funny

      What about Clint Howard?

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    2. Re:Enterpise: Greatest Hits by Martin+Blank · · Score: 1

      When does Space Ghost make his guest appearance?

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    3. Re:Enterpise: Greatest Hits by Lord+Kano · · Score: 1

      See Captain Kirk battle the Obsidian Order to save Beverly Crusher!

      Sounds like a Star TrekBad Boy remix.

      LK

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    4. Re:Enterpise: Greatest Hits by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is both slightly amusing and deeply depressing that I can vividly recall each and every one of those characters and plot lines.

      (I'm not even a "trekie", yet I've managed to pick up all this crap by osmosis.)

    5. Re:Enterpise: Greatest Hits by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The lady that played Quark's mother died earlier in the year.

    6. Re:Enterpise: Greatest Hits by tomcode · · Score: 1

      And of course their guide and new friend, Jar Jar Binks!

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    7. Re:Enterpise: Greatest Hits by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All your favourite characters
      are belong to us.

    8. Re:Enterpise: Greatest Hits by Snaller · · Score: 1

      See Captain Kirk battle the Obsidian Order to save Beverly Crusher!

      In colour!

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  59. [OT] James "Scotty" Doohan's Last Convention 8/27 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    James Doohan will be retiring from the conventions. His last appearence will be on August 27

  60. Re:Uhm??--Beware of Romulans bearing gifts... by davidsyes · · Score: 1

    Well,

    But, will he be able to do the trademark "take-25-seconds-to-succumb-to-heavy-stun" quiver and be taken almost as seriously as back then?

    Well, Bones did warn him about that Romulan Ale. I suspect Julie Newmar's Romulan Subcommander had an effect on Krik, umm, Kirk. The normal timeline got an advanced clone, and the REAL Krik, umm, Kirk, got fat on Romulan equivalent of Balut/raw/underground eggs. Maybe the Romulans figured out how to supersize their version of ostrich eggs. Or, they could just blame it on 1960 makeup that made it into 2259 or so, which then got recirculated, contaminating the timeline... No, wait, he ATE the cloaking device and could't pass it so Kirk had to shit another. (Kirk's and Spock's cabin/transporter room secret secret...)

    Maybe the Triskelions can appear and bring back that loin-wrappin' wrestler, complete with his and hers matching "collars of obedience". WOuld love to see "bill/billy/willie/shat" trying to keep up with such a wrestler... (Contorted) "Will-you-STOP-qui-ver-ing-like-THAT??? I-CAN'T--make-YOU-be-the-FIRST-to-alert-at-the -FIRST-pain!"

    Just my two quatloos...

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  61. he's ........ by MORTAR_COMBAT! · · Score: 4, Funny

    (... the ... longest ... pregnant ... pause ... in ... history ...)

    back.

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    1. Re:he's ........ by linzeal · · Score: 1
      Actually I read in a book that he did it because he was trying to remember his next line.

      Yep, Among the insights gained: those dramatic pauses in Kirk's speeches were the result of Shatner trying to remember his next line...

  62. Re:I'm... getting too... old for THIS.... ... shit by sTalking_Goat · · Score: 4, Funny

    http://www.khaaan.com/

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  63. Lame, Lamest.? by Fallen+Andy · · Score: 1

    Oh well, whatever small shred of credibility the star trek universe has left will only be amusing to Dr. Who fans...
    Blame the Dalek+Borg conspiracy of 2929

    Why on earth don't they do a series seen from a non earth perspective e.g. the Vulcan's (starting with
    the split with Romulus?). Sigh. No, that would be too *deep* maybe?

    (Or sack everybody, start with a fresh cast and give it to JMS...).

    1. Re:Lame, Lamest.? by gfxguy · · Score: 1

      That's a really good idea... except that the acting would be emotionless, and therefore pretty boring, but expand on the concept and you could have a winner...

      One of the main concepts of the successful humans being successful because they sometimes make emotional, sometimes illogical decisions. There'd have to be a way to work that in.

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    2. Re:Lame, Lamest.? by Fallen+Andy · · Score: 1

      Sorry for big delay. Brains work slower here @ 33 C in Athens GR. (grin). You are of course right if you take Vulcan logic as pure Boolean logic. But of course it isn't that. They *say* logical but they mean "sensible to me". This is negotiable. It's more akin to a belief system which can be explained by the harshness of the world they live on. Screw up and you're going to die. Therefore everything (just like my father's view) is "prioritized"). Vulcan's are just *shit* scared of emotion because of what it *did* to them. It's hot, and everyone loses their temper over trivial things... You can't afford mistakes ergo you have to be logical. Almost like Dune - there can't be a heck of a lot of water on this hotter world than earth... But imagine growing up in that world. They aren't programmed robots - so it must be societal conditioning. Hmm. Stories. There are 15e9 and counting (let lose an SF workshop and JMS and it would spin more magic than loom... I won't bore you. I trawled google and everything2 and wikipedia and got bored. Nobody seems to know where Sargon's world is? Last gasp of an imaginative thought. The schism between Romulans and Vulcans is akin to 1st/2nd foundation.... (grins and cackles). Thanks for your thoughts

  64. Bust a Move! by ScrappyLaptop · · Score: 1

    I mean seriously, William Shatner has parlayed a single television character into a career with incredible longevity that most actors would envy. If, thirty years from now I am still doing what I love for a living, maybe then I'll criticize him...

  65. Wouldn't do that much for the franchise by Tibor+the+Hun · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A couple of episodes of Kirk wouldn't mean that much for the franchise, and here's why:

    Kirk wasn't the best captain. Piccard was. As a matter of fact, the original show was good not because of Kirk, but because of the chemistry of the crew: Bones (what kind of nickname is that anyway?) was an alcoholic. You can see that from the way his eyes were always watery. Scotty was probably the only one in his family that finished college, and the rest of the crew was great too.

    The next generation had horrible, boring and pollitically correct crewmates, and a kickass captain. (Q and borg were good too)
    (You'd better believe that when Piccard would say "Fire at Will!" I'd be the first one to unload a clip into that John Tesh-liking bearded wimp.)

    Voyager had 7of9, DS9 had a story, and Enterprise has hmm... not sure yet.

    So in conclusion, I believe that it's the characters and their chemistry that makes the show, not any one individual or the wacky situations they're put in. A couple of shots of Kirk are too little, too late.

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    1. Re:Wouldn't do that much for the franchise by sql*kitten · · Score: 4, Funny

      Enterprise has hmm... not sure yet.

      Hoshi!

      They should just call it "Hoshi in Space" and have the camera follow her around for 45 mins...

    2. Re:Wouldn't do that much for the franchise by dirtyboot · · Score: 2, Informative

      Bones (what kind of nickname is that anyway?)

      It's from sawbones, old slang for a doctor. I think it dates back to the Civil War when doctors tended to amputate a lot.

    3. Re:Wouldn't do that much for the franchise by Tibor+the+Hun · · Score: 1

      oh right, i forgot that.
      and to think that i actually used to educate people about that!
      bones is so cool. "Damn'it Jim!..."

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  66. Eh by AsimovBesterClarke · · Score: 1, Funny

    Ya' know, everytime I sit down and watch this, I think "Well, it can't be worse than the last one I watched." And everytime, without fail, I am pleasantly surprised.

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  67. Let it die! by grasshoppa · · Score: 1, Interesting

    For the love of all that is holy, LET IT DIE!

    What they need to do is let it stay dead for a few years ( read: 5-10 ), then come up with a new spin on the universe that makes it completely different. Like, the borg ( or something worse ) take over the federation, and the series is about the last few ships and captains and their struggles.

    Something dramatically different that would provide even the most BORING writer with material enough to go for at least a few seasons.

    And damn it, I don't care how cool you think it is, NO MORE FUCKING TIME TRAVEL. Jesus, talk about taking an interesting plot element and wearing it out.

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  68. Re:Uhm??--Beware of Romulans bearing gifts... by davidsyes · · Score: 1

    Or, Romulans BARING "parting" "gifts"....

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  69. Time Travel explots by bokmann · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Why not? The whole series is based on an F'ed up time travel story... They can do anything they want now, and always press the cosmic reset button. Enterprise has no credibility - the only way to redeem it at this point would be to have the series end with a small child reading a book, and at the end we come to find out it is 23rd century fiction about the 'past', and the person reading it is a young James T. Kirk. The story would be the childhood inspiration he had to become a starfleet officer.

    Better yet, how about we get Fred Savage to play a father reading the book out loud to his son... the series can then alternate between Enterprise clips, and the son interrupting him with things like, "Eww... not that kissing stuff again", ala Princess Bride.

    1. Re:Time Travel explots by dknight · · Score: 1

      I've got to be honest.. the Fred Savage Princess Bride idea is BRILLIANT. That would just kick so much ass its not even funny!

      Lets face it, Enterprise is a waste of airtime. However, if you took this route with it, it would suddenly be worthwhile. Even better would be to combine your two ideas. Fred Savage reading it with the young Kirk interrupting.. hrmm.. interesting.

      This would be such a great way to go!

    2. Re:Time Travel explots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No! We pull out in the last scene to reveal a snowglobe with Sealab inside.

      It's layers upon layers.

    3. Re:Time Travel explots by SuiteSisterMary · · Score: 1

      The problem there, of course, being 'what kind of daddy reads a story to his kid about hot Vulcan chicks with ginormous racks getting oiled up in the 'decontamination' chamber?'

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    4. Re:Time Travel explots by clintp · · Score: 1

      I could picture Phlox reading this story to one of his grandkids. His species is *much* more open about these matters...

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    5. Re:Time Travel explots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      [cbg]worst, idea, ever[/cbg]

    6. Re:Time Travel explots by GrayWizard · · Score: 1

      But surely that would explain a lot about Kirk.

    7. Re:Time Travel explots by nagora · · Score: 1
      what kind of daddy reads a story to his kid about hot Vulcan chicks with ginormous racks getting oiled up in the 'decontamination' chamber?

      A really cool one?

      TWW

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  70. Re:I'm... getting too... old for THIS.... ... shit by Cat_Byte · · Score: 4, Funny

    rofl! Warn us before you have our computers shouting KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAN out at work ;)

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  71. We can only hope... by Jedi+Holocron · · Score: 1

    ...that it will be EVIL KIRK!

  72. Um by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can't

    1. Re:Um by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...believe

    2. Re:Um by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...they're that

    3. Re:Um by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ..hard up!

  73. on jodie blaylock... by Thimble · · Score: 1

    Kirk witnessing Enterprise crew after timetravel: "Wow, Spock, your mom's a MILF!"

    1. Re:on jodie blaylock... by Peale · · Score: 1

      One problem with that: Spock's mother was human, AFAIK.

    2. Re:on jodie blaylock... by BoneFlower · · Score: 1

      Nitpicks-

      The name is Jolene Blalock.

      Spocks mother was human.

  74. Quantum Leap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    His mission to return Shatner to Trek finally complete, Dr. Sam Beckett leaps out of Captain Archer's body...

    1. Re:Quantum Leap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...funniest...post...ever...

  75. Re:Would be simpler to use a digitally produced Ki by N0decam · · Score: 2, Funny

    The irony is that his stilted speech patterns probably make it much easier to digitally reconstruct dialog.

  76. Re:I'm... getting too... old for THIS.... ... shit by ncc74656 · · Score: 2, Funny
    Hey, if you're going to showcase The Scream, you might as well link it:

    KHAAAAAN!!

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  77. Condom by MisanthropicProgram · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    What if you're wearing a condom?

  78. Fun to watch due to lack of consistency by British · · Score: 1

    I think it may intrigue viewers from the fact that the story line will get more jumbled up than seen on Red Dwarf(last season: let's just reset everything and have no onboard disaster!) or Doctor Who(went all over the place).

    Let's not concern ourselves with the integrity of the story lines. It's beyond the point of no return. Sure, it was nice that DS9 picked up after Generations(notice sisko mentions the Enterprise getting destroyed). That time has past us. now we just get to watch implausable situations involving time travel in order to get more viewers. Anything could happen!

    Hell, even I'll watch even though i am now 100% confused on the xindi situation due to teh fact I saw episodes out of order.

  79. Khan! by drewzhrodague · · Score: 1

    Khan!

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  80. A sure sign by Flarn+Sauce · · Score: 1

    Enterprise is about to "jump the shark". Any time a Star Trek series decides to dig up Kirk, you know it can't be good. Last season of Enterprise was very good, the best so far. Without a solid story arc, I fear for the future of the series.

  81. The Nexus by IronMagnus · · Score: 1

    Could always see if the timing works out for Enterprise to come across the nexus.. he could go in and meet kirk and picard ^_^ ..but not bring them out so they can go on to finish Generations...

  82. MY KARMA POINTS by MisanthropicProgram · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    to you sir for speaking you mind.

    "Troll" my fucking ass!!! He's right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  83. Which is better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    William Shatner, more like: a) William Fatner b) William Shat'n'her c) Sex with a mare

  84. Did submitter RTFA? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    TFA and the article linked to by TFA don't say anything about Shatner returning as James T. Kirk.

    Since the linked article says Spiner will be playing "Dr. Noonien Soong's great-great grandfather" it's quite possible Shatner will be playing some ancestor of Kirk's.

  85. Sponsored by Real Audio(TM) by Eric_Cartman_South_P · · Score: 3, Funny

    This ...BUFFERING... can't be ...BUFFERING... the entire Away Team ...BUFFERING... gone ...BUFFERING... in a flash ...BUFFERING...

    1. Re:Sponsored by Real Audio(TM) by Mastadex · · Score: 1

      oddly enough, thats no buffering....thats how he ACTUALLY sounds!

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  86. Stop it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    You've punished us enough, Q!

  87. I hate to quote a Microsoft VP, but... by Infonaut · · Score: 4, Interesting
    it's time to KNIFE THE BABY.

    Star Trek is a classic example of something that was good, but has been rehashed so many times that it's all tapped out. The mine is spent. The well is dry. Star Trek has died on the vine.

    I can't think of any more rediculous ways of saying it. Star Trek must die, for the good of Star Trek. Let it die. Let someone new pick it up again in a decade. End the madness now!

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    1. Re:I hate to quote a Microsoft VP, but... by Laplace · · Score: 1

      For many of us, Star Trek is dead.

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    2. Re:I hate to quote a Microsoft VP, but... by slashdot_commentator · · Score: 1

      ...and the Vampyre Berman keep that rotting corpse of that once beloved series in an undead state, forever to roam the timeslots of UPN, never to reach its reward in the afterlife. If you loved what was once Star Trek, kill this soulless, evil, undead corpse now!

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    3. Re:I hate to quote a Microsoft VP, but... by Snaller · · Score: 1

      No, they just need to appoint me exec, i'll fix it ;)

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  88. A special message from your mother: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    GO OUTSIDE, YOU VIRGIN.

  89. Where's Wil by bhsx · · Score: 1

    What's Wil Wheaton's take on all this? Wil? You out there?

    He's prolly busy seeing if he still fits into that Crusher costume for next season.

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    1. Re:Where's Wil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I bet his balls are bigger now.

    2. Re:Where's Wil by roalt · · Score: 1
      What's Wil Wheaton's take on all this? Wil? You out there?

      Wil is on holiday, spending his well-earned free time with his family, see his weblog.

    3. Re:Where's Wil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Interestingly, wilwheaton.net seems to be down ATM. Hmm...

  90. Holy Hairpiece, Batman! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's pretty unfair to Nimoy. He doesn't act at all like Spock in person. The man's a pretty decent character actor--maybe not as much as a genius as the guy who played Elrond and Agent Smith, but still pretty good.

    Adam West, though, yes, I copy.

    1. Re:Holy Hairpiece, Batman! by Aerog · · Score: 1

      I was just thinking of the Simpsons episode(s?) with Leonard Nimoy as himself. He doesn't necessarily need to act like Spock to be famous for just being Leonard Nimoy.

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  91. Moron Shatner's Possible return to Startrek. by cttforsale · · Score: 1

    Possible movie title? Startrek 11: The Corbomite Girdle

  92. What if... by Chordonblue · · Score: 1

    ...he's only lending VOICE talent? Could he now be realistically rendered? I wonder...

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    1. Re:What if... by DarkSarin · · Score: 1, Troll

      whatever it is that he lends, it won't be voice TALENT--even if it is just his voice. I think his voice sucked.

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    2. Re:What if... by DarkSarin · · Score: 1

      wow, this is like my 2nd troll mod evar...

      If you are listening, let me tell you why I disagree:

      I was trying to be funny. Obviously, I failed. miserably.

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  93. Bring back an old Kirk, why not? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey, why be so negative? I think that having Shatner show up (as an older Kirk) in an eppisode of Enterprise is realy neat and lets the series explore new directions. I know the typical reaction is to toss away old people, but everyone gets old, the baby boomers are now realizing that they are getting over the hill and are really pushing hard for speeding up the development of life-extention/revering/reguvinating technologies such as nanotech...we are the very first generation in history that now has the capability (through biotech and nanotech), to be able to understand the aging process and slow/stop/reverse it in the next 10 to 20 years (faster if we do a crash program (the atom bomb was made in what, 4 years (Einstien said that it would have taken 40 years without a crash program), we got to the moon in what, 7 years? (we beat the Russians by a few months), now with so many more scientists, engineers on the planet (all getting old), it should be a cake walk, so perhaps we will see a young captain Kirk someday for real...

  94. Just think... by tgd · · Score: 1

    Now you can see his belly jiggle in its full high definition glory!

  95. Who cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am going to go with who cares.

  96. Re:This in addition to his relaunched singing care by hoggoth · · Score: 1

    > covers Pulp's "Common People" with Joe Jackson that you can listen to here: http://www.shoutfactory.com/av/common_people.mov As with anything Shatner...it is fantastic in its monotone delivery :)

    Oh god help me.... I kind'a like it...

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  97. Best line from the episode by anethema · · Score: 1

    "Wow, James Kirk? A living legend..Wow you really let yourself go!"

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  98. I won't watch the episode.... by DarkHelmet · · Score: 1

    unless they promise he screams KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN near the end of it.

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  99. Enterpise: Greatest Hits Vol II: Wrath of Berman by b0r0din · · Score: 4, Funny

    Tribbles take over the Enterprise! Again!

    The vulcan chick's breasts start expanding for no apparent reason, and the Enterprise is helpless to stop them!

    Watch as Gene Roddenbury spins over and over in his grave and is then resurrected like in Star Trek IV!

    Watch as Berman tries to save a hopelessly bad space opera which has lost all continuity and has turned into an ugly parody of science fiction!

    Personally, I'd rather watch Star Trek: Borg, where you watch as the Borg take over the rest of the planets. I can see it now. "These are the voyages of Borg Cube #200345. It's mission: To explore strange new worlds...to seek out new life, and new civilizations...to annihilate them and steal their technology...to boldly destroy what no man has destroyed before. Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated." *Cue music*

  100. Die Enterprise. by Moby-One+GNUbie · · Score: 0

    Die. Die. Die. This is yet another attempt to drag those of us who love Star Trek but recognize Enterprise for the putrid, stinking pile of dung it is back into our seats.

    Thanks Berman, for destroying continuity and turning Star Trek into a "who will have sex with our vulcan this week" bordello. I don't watch your pile of crap and I seriously doubt I ever will.

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  101. Last Chance to See Scotty by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Interesting
    James Doohan will make his last appearance at a Star Trek convention in Hollywood, Aug. 28-30. On the 31st He'll finally get a star on the walk of fame. Lovely, I'm sure he'll remember that... Some fans, couldn't get him a star for 30+ years, cripes.

    One of Doohan's sons, Chris Doohan, 45, said, "His longterm memory seems to be intact. If you ask him how he got his role on 'Star Trek' or about D-Day, he can talk for an hour about that. But if you ask him what he had for breakfast..."

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    1. Re:Last Chance to See Scotty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      That's the way it usually is, first problems with short term recall, then the inability to form any new memories, later progressing on to problems with long term memory or confusing the past with the present.

      I've seen someone progress through the symptoms, to me at least it is one of the worst degerative conditions imaginable. Usually suffers retain the ability to reason, but without a reliable memory it robs them of context. Even in the late stages most suffers know something is wrong with them, but the world is increasingly unfamiliar to them.

      Imagine for a second being surrounded by strangers (some which claim to be relatives or friends) or people you recognize but are decades older than you think they should be. Also if you believe what they tell you, things are only going to get worse. That is how it is during the late stages. How's that for a choice slice of Hell?

    2. Re:Last Chance to See Scotty by BoneFlower · · Score: 1

      My great grandmother thought I was my father the last time we went to see her. Never mind that my dad was standing right next to me.

      Of course, she didn't get noticeably sick until a couple months after her 95th birthday and didn't last long after here 96th, so she did live a full life and didn't suffer very long.

  102. Re:Enterpise: Greatest Hits Vol II: Wrath of Berma by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ahem...ok spock was back in star trek III. don't go all ballistic. ;)

  103. Re:Enterpise: Greatest Hits Vol II: Wrath of Berma by Aadain2001 · · Score: 1

    You know, I might actually watch that :)

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  104. Taking a "shatner" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sounds like they're taking a "shatner" on the Star Trek series

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    *'taking a "shatner"' is a euphamism for bowel movement

  105. Re:I'm... getting too... old for THIS.... ... shit by Cat_Byte · · Score: 1

    Waaaait a minute...I just realized my computer was muted and it still yelled that. Thats just cruel ;)

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  106. Time loops are lame plot devices... by stefanlasiewski · · Score: 2, Funny

    When they have guest appearances from a character who hasn't been born yet, and which would require yet-another-time-loop in the plot:

    "The franchise is dead, Jim!"

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    1. Re:Time loops are lame plot devices... by FrankHaynes · · Score: 1

      I'm wondering how they will get Dr. Phlox to utter those famous words: "He's dead, Jim!"

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  107. Star Trek XI by the+grace+of+R'hllor · · Score: 1

    Star Trek XI: The Dead Pool

    I smell a hit!

    Clint Eastwood as a disgruntled security officer. "This is the most powerful phaser in the known galaxy..."

  108. Episode spoiler: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Captain Kirk is thrown back in time and only speaks in Esperanto (a la Shatner's Incubus). Hoshi spends the entire episode attempting to translate this unknown language, finally inverts polarity of her translation software.

  109. Re:Would be simpler to use a digitally produced Ki by Have+Blue · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I've often wondered what would happen if an audience was shown a movie that mixed live actors and CG humans without being told which of the characters were CG. Given today's graphics technology, would they still be able to determine who was real and who was not? Or what if they weren't even given a reason to think anyone was CG in the first place? How many people would realize what was going on if they weren't consciously looking for clues? What would this do to the uncanny valley effect?

    I went through this process myself with a few still images from Final Flight of the Osiris, and I realize that video is a completely different field that can't be directly compared to images in terms of realism, but it won't be too long before this situation is no longer entirely hypothetical.

  110. No wonder Trek sucks anymore. by east+coast · · Score: 1

    William Shatner will be appearing on Star Trek: Enterprise for a two-episode guest stint - as James T. Kirk!

    Won't they give this a rest? It's the same stories rehashed over and over. Maybe it's time for Trek to hang it up for another 15 years.

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  111. Re:So much for keeping any hint of a coherent seri by ntk · · Score: 4, Funny

    Bermaaaaaaaaaaan!

  112. Re:Enterpise: Greatest Hits Vol II: Wrath of Berma by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Watch as Gene Roddenbury spins over and over in his grave and is then resurrected like in Star Trek IV!

    But in Enterprise the whole temporal war is powered by Roddenbury's rapidly spinning corpse. If he comes back to life it would just furthur screw up the timeline.

  113. And My Support! by MisanthropicProgram · · Score: 1
    I got Mod'ed down to oblivion.

    Fuck the Mods!!!

    1. Re:And My Support! by MisanthropicProgram · · Score: 1

      How interesting. I did NOT post the parent. Hmmm????

    2. Re:And My Support! by MisanthropicProgram · · Score: 1
      Why do I day that? Because I have no idea how to spell oblviun ..lion...oh fuck it@!

      Fuck the /. EDITORS! Now, I POSTED THAT DBS1SY17328

    3. Re:And My Support! by Tongo · · Score: 1

      Man....you know they have meds for that condition?

  114. Re:Lame--due to pretty-face episodic ensembles by davidsyes · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Such is the problem with hollywierd insisting on catering to a thematically challenged (US) populace that can't stand to see heroes die, that can't stand to live thru forced/regular ensemble changes. I find it refreshing that some European programming (not necessarily all, but some) change the characters out.

    In a real navy (well, at least in the USN, surface ships), crew members rotate. In SOME billets, personnel might remain at a command (as specific ship or base, not referring to being "in command") for up to 3 years. Ship drivers (ship captains and officers near the level of captain) might be rotated afer 24-28 month, mainly due to "ticket-punching" and professional development, or for fleet requirements. Trek rarely took advantage of any of this, relying on the "deep space assignment" crutch. Transporter, time machines, and quantum slipstreams in speed advances could have eliminated this. (Yes, I can see the submarine/deep space analogy... But, on Earth, people can see you rotate/change commands.) And, no, rotating walk-ons to sit in a bridge chair for a few minutes of quick-pan, no-lens dwell time doesn't cut it.

    Episodic series too heavily rely upon familiar, pretty, expensive faces. I guess pretty boys and pretty girls and their agents won't get rich on the usual sequel treadmill.

    What Trek might need is a revival of Voyager. I wish Harry Kim WAS a captain, not just some shoe-in to an alternate timeline that **suggested** (End Game) he **could** be a captain. After all, Paramount could conveniently find Captain Braxton of the Federation Timeship Aeon to aerate Kim and have Endgame just as (scriptwise) conveniently succeed with the demise of the Borg...

    And, probably ALL same-face ensemble-based shows could stand to freshen up their actors/actresses and yield to changing values a bit more frequently, rather than forcing upon gullible or swayed audiences a constant face or actor.

    David Syes

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  115. Er:Hu ho... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    some jokes are even funnier when there's someone who just doesn't get it... ;p

  116. Its official... by CrazyTalk · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If it wasn't already. The shark has officially been jumped on that show.

    1. Re:Its official... by upsidedown_duck · · Score: 2, Funny

      The shark has officially been jumped on that show.

      Actually, the shark traveled back in time to jump over its younger self. Ironically, the two sharks saw eachother, and the Enterprise universe spontaneously cancelled itself.

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  117. Some stupid time-travel thing? by Theovon · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Let's think about it. Kirk from the time of Enterprise is either not born yet or rather young. Shatner is in his 60's or 70's or something. He's old. So, if Shatner, the old guy, is to appear as Kirk on Enterprise, either Kirk has to travel back in time from the point when he's either admiral the second time or ambassador or something, or Archer's got to travel forward in time, which has been done to death.

    The only reason I want to watch is to find out if they can manage some really clever way to make it not suck.

    1. Re:Some stupid time-travel thing? by OSeXy · · Score: 1

      But what if it's Kirk from the future? Say, after he retires from the federation but before TNG. And... Time travel episodes rock! I love the episode where Scotty goes back to 1994 and buys $10,000 in shares of Microsoft for $3 each and... I digress.

    2. Re:Some stupid time-travel thing? by evilviper · · Score: 1
      The only reason I want to watch is to find out if they can manage some really clever way to make it not suck.

      Wow! That's the same reason I tuned into "Enterprise".

      I imagine the answer is the same though... "They won't... it'll completely suck, and you'll wish you never saw it."
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    3. Re:Some stupid time-travel thing? by Cheerio+Boy · · Score: 1

      Wow! That's the same reason I tuned into "Enterprise".

      I imagine the answer is the same though... "They won't... it'll completely suck, and you'll wish you never saw it."


      [Futurama]
      "YOU WATCHED IT! You can't UN-watch it!"
      [/Futurama]

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  118. Re:I'm... getting too... old for THIS.... ... shit by sTalking_Goat · · Score: 4, Funny

    I remember the first time I wne to the site. My co-worker was on a speaker phone conference. Everyone on the line went quiet and one guy said "What the hell was that?" and someone else answered "Star Trek II".

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  119. Re:Enterpise: Greatest Hits Vol II: Wrath of Berma by clintp · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'd watch it too.

    Television needs more shows where the villians are the focus. For a change, it'd be fun to root for the Borg, Goa'uld, Overseers, Visitors, Cylons, or even Microsoft.

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  120. As remarked by narsiman · · Score: 1

    Get a life. This is only a show afterall.

    1. Re:As remarked by angrykeyboarder · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I'm wondering why we should care.

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  121. Re:Learn to spell, moron by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And learn to punctuate, too, shithead.

    Commas should be used where there is a natural pause in speech. If I was to say the sentence above as you wrote it, there would be an odd pause before and after 'too'. Was that intentional, or do you just not know about punctuation, shithead?

  122. Re:I'm... getting too... old for THIS.... ... shit by marc_moore · · Score: 4, Funny

    To boldly go where no man that old should dare to go...

  123. Re:Enterpise: Greatest Hits Vol II: Wrath of Berma by Dunkelzahn · · Score: 1

    And the Sith.

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  124. Re:So much for keeping any hint of a coherent seri by davidsyes · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm hungry... Is there something to eat?

    HOW can you talk about FOOD, at a time like THIS?

    First order of business: Survival...

    Mother, we can't just STAND here.

    Oh, yes we can...

    David, why don't you show our friends the Genesis Cave (meaning, take our new friends for a walk...) ...

    Jim, let me show you something that will make you feel young, as when the world was new...

    (Hmm, I wonder how many re-takes they had at THAT line...

    ("**ssay!" was yelled out in a theater when I watching ST2TWOK. I was shocked. Shocked, I tell you. Someon yelling such as that expletive in a Star Trek movie (In retrospect, tho, I could see it hollered out for Bond and P. Galore, heheh)

    David Syes

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  125. Kirk could easily come out of The Nexus... by macserv · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The only reason Guinan's "echo" gave for not leaving, when Picard asked her to come back, was that she "was already there". Kirk's not. He died (with the stupidest last words EVER: "Oh my." WTF). He could come out again, presumably leaving another echo behind. And since The Nexus transcends time, Enterprise could just happen to come upon it.

    Nice. Intergalactic, soul-duplicating Xerox machine for resurrecting characters at will. Oh, look! Somehow, Khan got in the Nexus too! ROUND 3: FIGHT!

  126. Top 10 Ways to Save the Star Trek Franchise by NoMoreNicksLeft · · Score: 4, Funny

    10) Drop rumors here and there that N'Sync will guest star as plasma-sword wielding space knights.
    9) Show more science officer cleavage.
    8) Invert the bullshition particle field and modulate it to 5.69 isohertz!
    7) Wait until Paramount is 5 minutes plus a commercial break suspense builder away from canceling the show, and present a contrived and not so suprising solution.
    6) Start selling pieces of Deforest Kelly's mummified flesh as souvenirs to the faithful.
    5) Show more science officer cleavage!
    4) Wait for JMS to pitch another scifi show concept, and then blatantly steal it after the lawyers have lawsuit-proofed the theft.
    3) Hide Riker's razor!
    2) Holodeck brothels.

    And the number one way to save the Star Trek franchise is....

    (drum roll)

    Buy the new 6th edition Formula TV Plots for Dummies!

    1. Re:Top 10 Ways to Save the Star Trek Franchise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      5) Show more science officer cleavage!

      Now I like Spock and Data as much as anybody, but I think you're asking for too much here.

  127. Scott Bakula by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hiring Scott Bakula was the ultimate act of desperation anyway.

    When Scott Bakula goes in a room, everybody needs a space suit because he creates so much suck that there is a natural vacuum about a mile around him.

    Everything he's been in has sucked and sucked hard. Everything. That Quantum Leap that he was in was so awful that it gives me douche chills just to see the title.

  128. Methinks we're about to see a lot more of Shatner by FeetOfStinky · · Score: 1
    He has a new album coming out on October 5, Has Been, which he worked on with Ben Folds.

    The Transformed Man is dead! Long live the Has Been!

  129. Re:Enterpise: Greatest Hits Vol II: Wrath of Berma by eddy · · Score: 1

    I'd watch it too. Borg are the coolest thing about the ST-universe.

    I could never cheer for the Goa'uld though. They're way too stupid to be worthy of it.

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  130. Hate to show my geekyness by Mr.+Arbusto · · Score: 1

    Forgot Odo...
    And Romulan Senator Vrenack
    And Wyauon
    and ..

    1. Re:Hate to show my geekyness by the+chao+goes+mu · · Score: 1
      No lonely fan boys to mention Tasha Yar and sister?

      God, makes me sound pretty pathetic

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    2. Re:Hate to show my geekyness by kaitou · · Score: 1

      and daughter

    3. Re:Hate to show my geekyness by irenetheno · · Score: 1
      Ahem!

      Tasha's sister was fake.

    4. Re:Hate to show my geekyness by multipartmixed · · Score: 1

      Ensign Robin Leffler!!

      Remember that episode where Wes just got back from the Academy? Hubba hubba.

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    5. Re:Hate to show my geekyness by the+chao+goes+mu · · Score: 1

      Good! Someone is more of a geek than I am!

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  131. Re:Enterpise: Greatest Hits Vol II: Wrath of Berma by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Television needs more shows where the villians are the focus.

    You mean like Simple Life 2?

  132. Here's an idea: by superultra · · Score: 1

    How about a "two-episode stint" of good writing?

    That would be cool.

  133. Shatner joke.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why is Lieutenant Uhuru brown? Because William Shatner.

  134. Re:I'm... getting too... old for THIS.... ... shit by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

    YATTA? With Shatner? Now that's scary!

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  135. I'm torn... by mbourgon · · Score: 1

    The Reeves-Stevens' are writing Trek crap instead of writing the fourth Galen Sword novel... but maybe it's just paying the bills so they can afford to write another Galen Sword book.

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  136. Don't forget this terrible Slashdot interview by capedgirardeau · · Score: 1
    This was not his finest hour:

    William Shatner Replies

    Some of the questions were rude, but his respones were not graceful IMO.

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    Wax on, wax off baby!
  137. How about if they meet at mid-road in time? by ArcticCelt · · Score: 1

    The only reason I want to watch is to find out if they can manage some really clever way to make it not suck.

    How about if they meet at mid-road in some vortex of energy or something? Errr... wait a minute forget about it...

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  138. I'm surprised by lgordon · · Score: 1

    From the article:

    The only stumbling block at that time was that Shatner is signed as a regular on ABC's new drama series, Boston Legal, and would require time off to appear on Enterprise.

    That's amazing! I didn't know he could still get work as an actor.

  139. Not so bad after a few years by capedgirardeau · · Score: 1

    Hate to reply to my own post, but I just re-read the interview and its better than I remembered. Strange how a few years can do that.

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  140. Re:I'm... getting too... old for THIS.... ... shit by linzeal · · Score: 2, Informative

    There has been a website devoted to bringing back Kirk for awhile, and looking back over his acting and writing work it would be a good call when enterprise is the only game in town.

  141. Re:I'm... getting too... old for THIS.... ... shit by AhBeeDoi · · Score: 1

    True, but his hair never gets too old. ^_^

  142. Re:Enterpise: Greatest Hits Vol II: Wrath of Berma by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Replicators are much cooler, at least in their original form, before they started making 'human avatars' and falling in love with Carter...

  143. Idea! by Beaker74 · · Score: 1

    Let's cross-pollinate something!

    Star Trek: TI (Temporal Investigations)

    A team of dedicated agents try to correct time anamolies in the lab and out in the field.

    Where Bruckheimer when you need him? :)

  144. Hmm. by mcc · · Score: 1

    I dunno what an ancestor of Kirk would entail, though that would definitely be interesting. But what about an ancestor of Picard? Aren't the Picards supposed to be this really famous family who were present at all of these historic space-exploration moments? Wouldn't it make sense for one of the Picards to show up in Enterprise somewhere? Has this already happened while I wasn't watching?

  145. Look at The Equalizer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    How do series deal with signing really old actors, anyway?


    The insurers said that it was too risky to use Edward Woodward back in the mid 80's because of his age ... so they cancelled "The Equalizer" ..

    He's still going strong and acting today..


  146. We he does have experience... by sgt_getraer · · Score: 1

    Considering the series is 'dead in the water' so to speak.

  147. Priceline.c,om by hckrdave · · Score: 0

    Does this mean mabye we will get to see more priceline commericals? God i love those!

  148. Re:Enterpise: Greatest Hits Vol II: Wrath of Berma by pjdepasq · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How about a show that just explores life on earth in the 'utopian' society ST created? What's life like for everyone else on the ground? What about a CSI or NYPD Blue type of show set in the ST world. We get to see life in the future and see something like a cop show, etc.

    Jesus, even I can be more original than some of their "writers".

    Plus, what is Kirk going to do? Come back in time as an old man (as he is now) and tell the first enterprise to do this and that? Or will they have him play Kirk's great great grandfather?

  149. Let's see... by jeff13 · · Score: 1

    [i]The [b]most likely writers[/b] of his episodes... [/i]

    Will be the same 16 "producers" who proved over and over again they couldn't remember what happened from Act I to Act II.

    Besides, the stealing of Trek royalties is complete.

  150. Shatner On The Rebound by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I guess the priceline.com commercials didn't pan out after all? Pity, I was diggin' them.

    Oh well, two more to beam up Scotty.

  151. plot idea by fgb · · Score: 1

    Archer can time travel into the tribbles episode. They can then show scenes of the original episode AND the DS9 episode where they travel back in time to that same TOS episode. Imagine Kirk, Sisko & Archer all in the same show. Now if we can just get Picard & Janeway in... just imagine the comedic possibilities!

    1. Re:plot idea by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 1

      That's the best ST idea I've ever heard. Brilliant!

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  152. Let Shatner in T'Pol's knickers! by pandrijeczko · · Score: 1
    Let's face it, the poor old geezer never had much luck in the original series bedding the women and he can't be too much longer for this world so how about letting him put a smile on grumpy old T'Pol's face at the same time...

    --

    (Over dinner in the Enterprise mess)

    T'Pol: So tell me about yourself, Captain Kirk?

    Kirk: Well, I was the captain on a future Enterprise with a Vulcan first officer named Spock.

    T'Pol: Intriguing, Captain. Was Spock a full Vulcan?

    Kirk: No, he had some human in him... something I think you need also, T'Pol...

    T'Pol: I must say, I find humans... "intriguing".

    (Sound of a zipper)

    etc.

    etc.

    Actually, as an old Star Trek fan, how about an episode where Rick Berman and Brannon Braga have cameo appearances and get ejected into space from an airlock for causing 10 years of misery to the entire human race! (Namely, from the point "Voyager" started to the present day.)

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  153. Kirk Must Die! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're already dead, Jim. Take it from me, I know.

    Your pal,

    Bones

  154. They are? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The only thing I can find is their April Fools article.

  155. Dax is a babe! (was Re:Sounds cool to me...) by KDN · · Score: 1

    > When did Dax NOT look hot?

    To me, Dax was always somewhat hot, but my jaw dropped to the floor when I saw her in the TOS miniskirt uniform. It really killed me when they killed Jadiza.

  156. Re:I'm... getting too... old for THIS.... ... shit by cafard · · Score: 1

    Wait until he starts singing. Now THAT is scary ^^

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  157. Well, I go back to what I said with ST:TNG... by AtariDatacenter · · Score: 1

    If it doesn't have Kirk _AND_ Spock, it doesn't have me! ;)

  158. PARENT CRACKED ME UP by Babbster · · Score: 1

    The sarge is unappreciated in his own time.

  159. As mnftiu.cc would say... by Faust7 · · Score: 1

    Watch as Gene Roddenbury spins over and over in his grave and is then resurrected like in Star Trek IV!

    You think once we get Gene Roddenberry spinning in his grave fast enough, we'll be able to power an engine with him?

  160. Replaced by Spock by romper · · Score: 1

    Didn't you see the commercials? They replaced him with Leonard Nimoy. How ironic. :)

    (yes, I know it's just a marketing gag...)

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    1. Re:Replaced by Spock by Colonel+Cholling · · Score: 1

      Didn't you see the commercials? They replaced him with Leonard Nimoy. How ironic. :)

      I see someone else went to the Alanis Morissette School of Not Knowing What the Word "Ironic" Means.

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    2. Re:Replaced by Spock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I see someone else went to the Alanis Morissette School of Not Knowing What the Word "Ironic" Means.
      Is there a word for that, then? You know, being run down by an ambulance or something?
    3. Re:Replaced by Spock by Random_Goblin · · Score: 1

      Is there a word for that, then? You know, being run down by an ambulance or something?
      annoying?

    4. Re:Replaced by Spock by Slurm-V · · Score: 1
      I see someone else went to the Alanis Morissette School of Not Knowing What the Word "Ironic" Means.
      They were being ironic.
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  161. Re:I'm... getting too... old for THIS.... ... shit by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

    Singing? I was thinking more in terms of dancing in white briefs with fig leaves*! Crap... now I have to go disinfect my brain again. Do you have any idea how much that stings?!

    *in retrospect, I should have linked to the video rather than the flash

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  162. Synchronicity on teh intarweb by TheTick · · Score: 2, Informative

    From memepool: Bring Back Kirk!

    Between what's happened to Star Trek and Star Wars over the last decade or so, my childhood lies in tattered ruins...

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  163. Didn't Shatner tell US to get a life? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Back in the 70s, on SNL?

    Christ, geezer, take your own fucking advice already.

    PS: I'll have some beans with the hambone.

  164. Sounds logical.... by Cornflake917 · · Score: 1

    But no

  165. Re:Enterpise: Greatest Hits Vol II: Wrath of Berma by Noodleroni · · Score: 1

    Three cheers for the Ferengis!!! You evil hu-mons!

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  166. Re:I'm... getting too... old for THIS.... ... shit by FrankHaynes · · Score: 1

    That would be the SUMO YATTA! if Shatner were performing it.

    Actually, I believe Shatner was somewhat (or quite?) accomplished in the martial arts in his younger days; say, somewhere around the invention of electricity or so. A pity what time and self-neglect can do to us.

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  167. Re:The Horse by john.mull · · Score: 1

    Would that be an African or a European horse?

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  168. I may be an oddball but by Stone316 · · Score: 1
    I really enjoyed the last season of Enterprise. Most of all, like you mention, it was great to have all the episodes basically follow a storyline.

    But hey, I liked all of the Star Trek based shows. I'll admin, some too a season or two to get into but i've watched them all. I'm dreading the day a Star Trek show is canceled and not replaced by another.

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  169. Re:Enterpise: Greatest Hits Vol II: Wrath of Berma by nmk · · Score: 1

    Slight change you forgot to incorporate there. One which is particularly relevant in the case of the Borg. to boldly destroy what no man......................no one.................has destroyed before. Cue signatures and crying

  170. Re:Enterpise: Greatest Hits Vol II: Wrath of Berma by FrankHaynes · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Between the later years of TNG, the movies, and the final episode of V'ger, they have pussified the Borg so much that they are cut-out cartoon characters any more.

    I remember watching the first-run of the Best of Both Worlds episodes with my non-Trekkie roommates and even THEY couldn't wait for the cliff-hanger conclusion 3 months away! Now *THAT* was scary Borgness! We didn't know much about them and they could kick ass while being impervious to our pea shooters. How will Humanity survive them??!

    Now we throw a few quantum torpedos at them, raise our multiphasic shields, and press on undeterred. Big deal. The mystery has been solved, no puttin the genie back into the bottle, even via timeline manipulation.

    Maybe Shatner would look good as a Borg drone? Or could the costume department even come up with enough piping and leather to cover his fat ass?

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  171. Re:I'm... getting too... old for THIS.... ... shit by davidsyes · · Score: 1

    DAMN!

    I wish this topic had been up Friday when I still had mod points. I'd have given it a FUNNY!

    This is AWESOME!!!!

    I wonder if Wil (W) would get a kick out of this.

    David Syes

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  172. UPN sucks by tfcdesign · · Score: 1

    UPN keeps putting Enterprise up agains other shows. On Wednes day the show was up against Smallville and now the sho is up against Joan of Arcadia and Scifi mega noght with Andromeda, SG-1 and Atlantis - that doesnt even account for it being on a Friday night. To save Enterprise they should air it on Scifi at 8 PM.

  173. Particle Of The Week to the rescue ... by zonix · · Score: 1

    Fact: Shatner is too old to play Kirk in the Enterprise timeline without some serious higgledy-piggledy with said timeline.

    Nothing a temporal anomaly caused by the Berman/Braga Particle Of The Week can't handle, I'm afraid. :-(

    z
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  174. Ironic! by zonix · · Score: 1

    Oh come on, I'm practically a gynecologist and I've never seen a green pussy./i>

    Said the Mars Defense Minister? :-)

    z
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  175. Re:Learn to spell, moron by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    till then go to a board that cares grammer nazi

    Was that aimed at me or the post I replied to (yeah, I posted the grandparent to this one)?

    Thought it was pretty obvious I was taking the piss out of a not-so-smartass AC.

    BTW, didn't that craze for calling everyone a 'something nazi' get boring about five minutes after it started (which was a *long* time ago)?

  176. How Kirk Gets There by anser · · Score: 2

    It's obvious how Kirk meets the ST:Enterprise crew.

    After his retirement from Starfleet, Kirk exploits his Galaxy-wide fame by appearing as a spokesman for PRICETIME, the new commercial venture set up to exploit the dozen or so different time-travel mechanisms Trek has come up with. "Name Your Own Stardate" becomes an irresistible slogan.

    Unfortunately, while shooting a PriceTime ad on location in the past, Kirk's film crew is ambushed and nearly wiped out by a team from PriceTime's fierce competitor, KHANPEDIA. Only Kirk survives, marooned on the World of Suzie Wong. His teeth chattering amid the plastic snow and rubber rocks, the delirious Kirk mutters "Kirk to Enterprise" which is miraculously picked up by the prequel vessel cruising nearby.

    This episode, "Margin of Promise," is the highest rated of the season, losing only to CRANK YANKERS and a TBS rerun of "The Cable Guy."

  177. MST3K reference by Mastadex · · Score: 1

    Captains Log: The ship is falling appart....and nobody likes me...

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  178. Arrgh not more time-travel by nurb432 · · Score: 1

    How about we just travel back in time 3 years or so, and stop this moron from ever writing an episode for Enteprise..

    Show might have made it then... It was a good concept, with a decent cast ( not the best, but decent ) and had promise...

    But nooooo, he had to fuck it up totally....

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  179. Re:Enterpise: Greatest Hits Vol II: Wrath of Berma by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Television needs more shows where the villains are the focus.

    There's a whole channel like that. It's called C-SPAN.

  180. Re:I'm... getting too... old for THIS.... ... shit by davidsyes · · Score: 1

    After about 100 replays, I turned the volume down.

    Now, at maybe some 400 plays, it is starting to sound like Kirk is being gimped by Khan. More like agonizing pain, rather than exultation, ummm, exCLAMAtion...

    I'll let'er whirl a little bit longer. I don't recall Janeway sounding this undignified, hehehe...

    David SYes

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  181. Re:I'm... getting too... old for THIS.... ... shit by JDax · · Score: 1

    ROTFLMAO!! I can't believe someone did a website of that! :-P

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  182. Re:I'm... getting too... old for THIS.... ... shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    You misspelled "badly"

  183. Last words not so stupid... by shadwwulf · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If you look at the entire thesis of the Kirk character you will find that his main mode of operation and motivation is to bend the rules of the game in order to triumph over the evil of the moment. Whether it be the modification to the programming of the Kobashi Maru test, or the bluff played in the corbomite maneuver when the deck was stacked against him, Kirk always bluffed and cheated death throughout his whole career. This is in fact evidenced in the whole entry into the Nexus. His most certain death obverted by the luck of the draw as he tumbled into the Nexus, and not the vacuum of space. His character lived expecting to squeak by and live another day. This is part of the enduring charm of the Kirk character. However when finally the odds caught up with him and death was upon him, such a statement of utter astonishment that he didn't make it through this time is quite fitting.

  184. Archer... by cesman · · Score: 1

    Think Archer will tell him "I've been saving the galaxy before your grandfather was in diapers."?

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  185. Re:Enterpise: Greatest Hits Vol II: Wrath of Berma by CrackHappy · · Score: 1

    Isn't Century City something like what you describe? Sure, it's not the ST universe, but it's a look at the future of law and enforcement of that law in the future.

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  186. Re:I'm... getting too... old for THIS.... ... shit by mikael · · Score: 1

    From the Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy:

    In those days spirits were brave, the stakes were high, men were real men, women were real women and small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri.'

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  187. 'Hate to encourage them.... by SvnLyrBrto · · Score: 4, Interesting

    > Fact: Shatner is too old to play Kirk in the Enterprise timeline
    > without some serious higgledy-piggledy with said timeline.

    > Probability: Yet Another Time Travel Adventure! YATTA!

    But there *IS* a nice in-continuity answer. And, yes, it does involve time-travel.

    Remember the episode of DS9 where they go back in time to "The Trouble With Tribbles"? When Sisko was explaining themselves to those "temporal investigation" guys, remember the recoil when Sisko mentioned Kirk's name? Kirk apparently held the record for the number of "temporal incursions". I remember seeing a website, once, where somebody went through all the episodes and movies, counted the time travel incidents, and came up well short of the figure in DS9. So there's PLENTY of opportunity for Shatner, and the 1701 to pay a visit to Dr. Beckett.

    And Shatner has long since hit the point where old people don't get older, they just get fatter instead. He looks, now, like a kind of chunky version of Kirk, circa ST5 or ST6.

    cya,
    john

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  188. Do you REALLY know why picard is bald in TNG? by Airw0lf · · Score: 1

    I saw an interview with Patrick Stewart on the British chat show Parkinson. Parkinson asked him the very same thing - why is there no cure for male baldness in the future.

    Picard's response was to mention what Gene Roddenberry said at one of the first TNG press conferences - that, in the future, "No one would care." This is of course perfectly in line with the almost utopian future that Roddenberry's vision for Star Trek espouses...where man has evolved beyond an obsession with greed, power, appearances etc etc...

  189. WTF by thunderbird46 · · Score: 1

    I've never watched more than a half episode of Enterprise but it's got to be pretty damn lame if they have to drag Shatner back to play Kirk. It was bad enough when TOS had the occasional send-the-ship-back-to-1968 moment (2 by my recollection) or that whale movie. I kind of liked the guest appearances of TOS characters in TNG because at least they made some SENSE. They were shown as being a good deal older to start out with, and I'd think that in 300 years we'd have figured out a way to let people live longer, so that Dr. McCoy blessing the Enterprise-D wasn't so far-fetched. From there it went downhill IMO. Scotty in a transporter loop and just happening to be picked up by Picard's Enterprise? yup sure mm-hmm. And how about the backwards-growth time rift thing in "All Good Things..."? The TNG movies seemingly were trapped in time loops of their own, the first two both had to resort to bizarrenesses in order to make anything work. Voyager was fun for about 5 episodes but that's about how long it took to realize that somehow they'd get back within a few seasons anyway. And now we're pulling someone from a LATER series to an EARLIER one and he looks OLDER now. Yeah. whatever. What's next? Voyager and Defiant show up to help beat off the Borg, who are supposed to still be on the other side of the galaxy (other than the TNG-movie time travel crap)?!? How about throw the freaking Andromeda Ascendant in there, it won't hurt ST's credibility much further, and it IS another Gene Roddenberry series.

  190. Re:Enterpise: Greatest Hits Vol II: Wrath of Berma by CaptainAvatar · · Score: 2, Funny
    I agree. Why do we always have to see things from the Starfleet point of view? Doesn't anything interesting ever happen in the ST universe that doesn't involve Starfleet?

    Not that I think the ST writers would do any better at, say, a legal drama ... "Your honour, I object on the grounds that my client just disappeared into a polaron-induced wormhole." "Bailiff, rotate phase by 90 degrees and fire on that mysterious entity! Bench to sickbay, medical emergency ... and somebody get the courtroom engineer up here immediately!" "Judge, I move for an immediate mistrial - the DA is distracting the jury by decontaminating herself with with body gel again!"

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  191. He said she said a friend saw some guy mention.. by Lewis+Daggart · · Score: 1

    A condensed version of the article. Trek Today reports that someone on its message board says that the MGM grand Hotel showed a comercial for enterprises 4th season that mentioned a guest appearence by Shatner. How is this any more info than we had in the last slashdot article?

  192. Re:I'm... getting too... old for THIS.... ... shit by Bush+Pig · · Score: 1

    (Fills moth with cotton wool) " ... the horror ... "

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  193. Re:Enterpise: Greatest Hits Vol II: Wrath of Berma by tobar+mersa · · Score: 1
    Tribbles take over the Enterprise! Again!
    That might actually be a good episode for a change. The only potential problem is that it makes the show too predictable:
    1. Enemy makes dramatic appearance, or else the Enterprise runs across a planet which then tries to destroy them
    2. Enterprise crew beam down a few thousand tribbles
    3. ???
    4. Entire enemy crew/planet is now either contently spending their days petting tribbles, or launching an anti-tribble crusade, and thus is far too busy to notice the Enterprise preparing to run away
    5. The Enterprise runs away
    Of course, this would require the writers giving the crew brains, so I'm not sure one will have to worry about that.
    The vulcan chick's breasts start expanding for no apparent reason, and the Enterprise is helpless to stop them!
    The Enterprise runs across the Magical Shopping Arcade Abenobashi. Now there's an episode of ST:Enterprise I'd actually watch.

    I wonder how they will get the charm of breast enlargement off of Eutus. Or will they steal it off of Arumi, instead?

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  194. Re:Enterpise: Greatest Hits Vol II: Wrath of Berma by Geek+of+Tech · · Score: 1
    >>Television needs more shows where the villians are the focus.

    I thought that that was why we had evening news.

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  195. One lonely, bitter fan's thoughts by Oaktree_b · · Score: 1

    I say, what the hell, Enterprise sucked so bad this last season, let's see what Shatner/Kirk can add to the show. I remember when Enterprise started, I had thought it would be a nice change from the plodding, downright boring Voyager and the last few seasons of DS9. Finally, we were going to have a ship just fly around the galaxy, meeting aliens and interacting with them. Enterprise had so much promise, it was almost like a "back to basics" show: no complicated technologies, no Prime Directive to get in the way, no super-aliens starting a war or wanting to take over every civilization out there. Then they went into that damn Xindi/war/humanity is the enemy thing, and I just lost interest. I couldn't wait for the Xindi storyline to be over so we could get back to the business of exploring the galaxy again, and they've dragged it into another season. And with Nazis! Geeze, when will they learn, we don't want to see Nazi's and aliens! Why don't they do like a cold-war story, where the Russians take over part of the world instead, that would at least be original... So Shatner/Kirk, whatever, let's just get it over with and move on to the next stupid idea.

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  196. I have kids with pointed ears. Oh Boy! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Glad to see I'm not the only one who thought of the Quantum Leap analogy. I always figured they killed two birds with one stone by justifying the end of Quantum Leap in having Sam Beckett "leap" into the Star Trek role, never to return. It's the next logical step to a great series that had a lousy ending. Bringing back Al in one episode of Enterprise only reinforced this theory.

    I keep waiting every episode for the cheesy "leap" effects at the end, followed by an "Oh Boy!" when he realizes he is now a father of 3 half-Vulcan kids.... :)

  197. Re:Enterpise: Greatest Hits Vol II: Wrath of Berma by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    More like FOX News.

  198. Re:Enterpise: Greatest Hits Vol II: Wrath of Berma by Eil · · Score: 1


    How about a show that just explores life on earth in the 'utopian' society ST created? What's life like for everyone else on the ground?

    So, sorta like DS9? Except that it wasn't utopian, and it was a space station, so rather than yet another series where idealistic clean-shaven Starfleet officers go galavanting about the universe looking for hopeless situations to escape from at the last minute, the hopeless situations tend to come to them instead.

    I'm a Trek fan and all, but I stopped watching Enterprise (as in, haven't seen a single minute since) the very moment they had the strapping young crew member and sexy vulcan rub "decontanimation gel" all over each other's naked bodies in a small, private, dimly-lit room.

    If I were in charge at Paramount, my first rule for Enterprise would have been no 24th century technology, no 24th century species. You get warp drive, you get vulcans, you get human colonies, you get strange planets with strange animals, you get Starfleet pissing off everyone in the galaxy and maybe MAYBE you can get the Klingons in one or two season finales. And no time travel, ever. EVER. I can think of hundreds of interesting scenarios that could fit within those bounds. Look at Firefly. They didn't have half of that stuff.

    Berman took the easy way out and really pissed off the Trek fanbase. I was almost wondering why it took this long for them to think of a way to get Kirk back in. I'd bet any amount of money that before the series gets canned, (wouldn't be too soon, from my point of view) they will probably end up involving a large portion of one of the TNG, DS9, or Voyager crews. Ditto for the Borg, if they haven't done so already.

  199. like young James Brown in Funk Blast by adpowers · · Score: 1

    Or like what they did for James Brown in Funk Blast. Funk Blast is the now defunct show/ride that was in the Experience Music Project (in the area that now houses the sci-fi musuem). The video at the end stars a 35 year old James Brown signing and dancing to sex machine. It was an impressive display of a mostly digital actor.

  200. Re:This in addition to his relaunched singing care by slashdot_commentator · · Score: 1

    Actually, I really liked Shatner's parody entry. His only problem was that it was blown away by Robert Goulet's submission.

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  201. Nebula watch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh Nebula Watch my arsehole. You want porn. Stop dicking around with soft porn with a hint of sci-fi to legitimise it, go hire yourself a stroke film, and be done with it. You'll feel better and feel the need to read /. less often.

  202. MORON Shatner's Possible Return To Trek by syousef · · Score: 1

    At least that's how I read it. He WAS a great Captain Kirk in his time. He hasn't aged well, and he's ruining the character everyone will remember him for when he's dead. It's sci-fi cap'tn but not as we know it.

    "He's dead Jim."

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  203. MegaTrek crossover by wolverine1999 · · Score: 1

    We need crossovers like this every now and then, with good stories.

  204. Shoot Or Be Shot by core+plexus · · Score: 1
    I'm still not sure where he was going in "Shoot Or Be Shot", but it was classic Shatner all the way.

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  205. Re:Enterpise: Greatest Hits Vol II: Wrath of Berma by Pathetic+Coward · · Score: 1

    Watch as Seven of Nine is trapped inside a kinky sex club!

    Uh, wait a minute ...

  206. Or another season of Firefly! by Snaller · · Score: 1

    Hell, anything on TV makes me wish that :-/

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  207. Best of the Shatner Haiku Contest by Mekkis · · Score: 1

    Kirk's better than Spock
    Nimoy's stealing the spotlight
    Incites Shatner's wrath

    For green-skinned women
    Kirk drops all priorities
    Most illogical!

    And of course, my absolute favorite:

    My wig is glued on
    My corset is laced tightly
    NOW I start acting.

  208. Re:Enterpise: Greatest Hits Vol II: Wrath of Berma by ultramarweeni · · Score: 1

    Star Trek: C.O.P.S? o_O
    Wow, that'd be hilarious.

  209. Yeah, right by Mr.+Arbusto · · Score: 1

    >See Captain Kirk battle the Obsidian Order to save Beverly Crusher!

    Yeah right, deep inside we all want Kirk to fail.