So you're the type that thinks everyone who didn't leave New Orleans deserved the wrath of Katrina?
I see your point, but those are apples and oranges. I'm not sure if you live in a "natural disaster" area, like California earthquakes, Florida Hurricanes, Indonesian tsunamis, etc, - but let me tell you, leaflets/televised warnings of the next "big one" come every other week. And the truth is that these just don't come true often. Hell, it just happened this week - CNN tried to glorify this Italian guy who "predicted" the recent deadly earthquake in Italy. The article was later mocked and ridiculed because CNN forgot to mention (at least in the first version of the article) that this guy makes this rant every few weeks for the last 20 years. Hell, you're going to be correct once.
The point is, most people wisely or unwisely ignore these warnings of natural disasters because, let's face it, in 2009 we're not that good at predicting these things. But, warning against a HUMAN act is something that should be taken very seriously. I don't think CBS in New Orleans warning about yet another hurricane is taken the same way as a warning of a pending US Marines invasion on a specific date at a specific time.
The country I am in was never in danger of that, as Germany would have lost to the USSR quite handsomely, just a year or so later. How would have history looked after that is anyone's guess.
Wow. That's quite the talent you have there for speculation! So you can accurately describe the events of WWII had the USA not come in? You seem extremely sure that Hitler would have broken his peace agreement with the USSR?
Wow, can you please tell me what will happen in next 25 years of Pakistan, Venezuela, Israel, Iraq, Afghanistan, Taiwan and all the forver Soviet blocs?
1. You said that in the "good old days" you weren't likely to get HIV except for gay sex and IV drug use.
2. I told you that's bullshit, and named Ryan White and Arthur Ashe as 2 examples of people that got HIV from non-sex/drug use.
3. You then said that Ryan White and Arthur Ashe's blood transfusion HIV cases were, in your words "fairly isolated incidences."
4. Then I told you that there were actually 14,262 people that got it that way, with the vast majority in the 1980s before blood screening became routine.
5. Then, instead of admitting you were wrong, you try to change what the debate is about. Instead of admitting that over 14,000 people have died from AIDS as a direct result of blood transfusions, you comically try to argue that "Not that large of a percentage of the population in the US ever gets a blood transfusion.... moot argument man."
Not that large a percentage of the population is a man that has had unprotected sex with another man in the 1980s. Also, not a large percentage of the population shared IV drug needles in the 1980s. So, um... therefore, anyone who got HIV in the 1980s from IV drug use or gay sex was... "a fairly isolated incident," right?
Keep replying, troll! I've gotten 4 fans and 2 friends because of this thread. Keep 'em coming! Gimme another ridiculous argument!
Wow, you're still trying to win this. Wow. OK, cayenne8, this may be a shock to you, but transmission of HIV via blood transfusion actually doesn't happen anymore (CDC link. The majority of HIV blood transfusions took place in the (gasp!) early 1980s. You remember, those 14,000 isolated incidents. So, it turns out that the "golden years" were actually the ONLY years you were likely to get HIV from blood transfusions. Seems like the 1980s are specifically WORSE in the very area you are claiming to be better (probably, by now, just to be a troll/flamebaiter).
You're correct, and I was wrong, to say they were purposely infected. But from your own link: "The Tuskegee Study of Untreated Syphilis in the Negro Male was a clinical study, conducted between 1932 and 1972 in Tuskegee, Alabama. The 40-year study was controversial for numerous reasons related to ethical standards, most notably because researchers had failed to treat patients appropriately after the 1940s validation of penicillin as an effective cure of the disease."
No one really heard much about it till about '84 or so...and it wasn't widespread, and if you weren't an IV user or having male homosexual anal sex, you likely weren't at a risk back then... I *did* say a few years before '89. Really, till about '84-'85, you could pretty much fsck anything that moved (at least heterosexually) and not have to worry much about dying if you didn't put a helmet on your soldier.
Ryan White and Arthur Ashe send their love. (Go ahead, I double-dare you to suggest those are exceptional cases).
I'm just saying that how people treat each other, society in general, and how the govt. is working against us, was not as bad back then. I feel that life and the very minimun, was much more civil, polite and relaxed then.....and decades before.
Hey, remember that time the US government purposely gave 400 of its black citizens, hell, 400 of its MILITARY men, syphillis, then watched them die? I could be cynical and say "I guess *snicker* this is what cayenne8 considers the days when the government was better!," but I really doubt you think the gov't-sponsored-and-ordered execution of 400 black men was really a good thing. Really, you're just describing what one of the GPs accurately describes as gleeful remembrance of the "good ole days."
Step 1. Go to so-called "poor country."
Step 2. Buy 10,000 units of drug X at 25% of its cost in the US/Canada/Europe.
Step 3. Sell drug X in US/Canada/Europe at 50% of its normal Drug X cost (i.e. at twice the price you paid), advertising your pharmacy as having the best prices in the country.
Step 4. (Just do step 3 a lot)
Step 5. Profit!
Don't even get me started on the cost of indy development on consoles either. Its gotten better in recent years, but you usually still have to buy a platform development kit, which usually isn't cheap.
I'm not sure about XBox or Playstation kits, but Wii development kits are less than $2,000.
I would prefer to see a music industry in the future, that is comprised of artists and consumers, where the artists are payed fair prices for their work. And no big record labels.
There's nothing wrong with a big record label. Apple is a sort of a big record label, and their prices, in my opinion, are very fair. I have problems with their 5-activation-limit, but that's a minor problem. It's just that the Sony/BMG people are BAD big record labels.
Not all big companies and corporations are evil, despite what your professor tells you. The CEO/Founder of Costco, for example, only makes 10x more than the lowest employee in his company, as opposed to 600x for GE or something. Hense, he makes a very comfortable (yet very reasonable) $350,000 a year to run a major corporation with tens of thousands of employees.
It's a lot simpler than that - games with crappy graphics don't sell. Period.
Defend Your Castle, Mega Man 9 and Geometry Wars called. They said "Shhh! Don't tell our millions of customers that they've been buying games with 1986 graphics!"
IANAP, but did catch chicken pox aged 33. It's a lot worse when you're older, much, much worse than the mild temperatures and chance of scarring in childhood.
You're absolutely correct. I was referring to the more common pediatric chicken pox. Adult onset chicken pox (or adult recurrence aka Shingles) is extremely dangerous and can absolutley kill you.
I was born in the UK in 1961, and so grew up in the era where we weren't vaccinated against things like measels and chicken pox, and so of course we caught them, and we were fine. There may be rare side effects of these diseases, but the coincident rise in autism coupled with the rise in vaccination at least doesn't indicate autism as one of the side effects. As it happened I also almost died as an infant as a result of the DTP vaccine, and consequently wasn't given the 2nd shot of the series. I did subsequently catch whooping cough, and although it was unpleasant, it's sure better than being dead.
IAAP (I am a physician - specifically pediatrics). First off, "you" may have been "fine" when you "got measles," but the population of England wasn't. Measles isn't chicken pox - it's a LOT worse. It's pretty rare to die of pox, but measles will kill you, give you encephalitis, make you go deaf, or a lot of horrible, horrible things. It's not just a bunch of itchy spots for a month.
And second, as for your reaction to the DTaP vaccine, there is a widely known side effect of the vaccine (specifically the "P" part against Pertussis, aka Whopping Cough). We are well aware of the side effect and it is known. That is not the same as speculation about an unproven side effect believed by the public and rejected by most of the scientific community. Hmm, sounds a *lot* like the Global Warming denier community. Oh wait, but those guys are kooks, right? *You're* just being skeptical, right?
That being said, your physician is either an idiot, or to be fair, maybe this wasn't known in 1960s UK - the solution to the DTaP reaction you describe is to administer just the D and T portions and not adding the Pertussis part. Congratulations, you were not immunized against Tetanus or Diptheria.
Complete BS. Absolute BS. The solar panels were NOT designed to last more than the season. Steve Squyres told our class how they tried to implement windshield wipers, "saran wrap" like films that would roll a fresh cover on the panels, and a host of other ideas, none of which were possible for various reasons. They got lucky in a lot of ways (dust devils, etc), and luck+great engineering has made this mission such a success.
Nice try being cynical, but these were designed to work for a few months. Yes, "90 days" is arbitrary. If anything, they went for a 2-3x underestimation. But a combined >5 years on Mars? There's NO FREAKING WAY Steve Squyres anticipated that. Even in his wildest dreams. This is all borrowed time, and very unexpected.
I have a date with an Australian on Sunday (she's from Melbourne - i'm from/we're in New York). I'll try to work the TEE thing in there. She'll wonder how I know about it, lol...
Hmmm, I wrote "who's" instead of "whose." Well, there's a reason I wasn't an English major as an undergrad I guess...
I still remember the day he came into class and told us about the rovers. He had literally just gotten off the plane from JPL, and asked if there were any reporters in the room (for the school paper or otherwise). He then told us that since there wouldn't be a public announcement of the MERs for another month or so, that everything he told us was "off the record." it was so cool to learn that and all the other insider-info.
Ever since the two loses in 2000, NASA has had amazing success with Mars. We now have a fleet of spacecraft orbiting and on the surface of Mars. But the biggest kudos have to go to an all-around amazing guy, and my favorite professor during my undergrad education, Steve Squyres, who's "90 day" rovers are now toddlers on Mars.
By my count, thats 2 albums this decade. Unless he's planning on releasing a new album in the next 15 months of course. In that case, it'd be THREE albums in a decade. If said scenario happens, you are correct.
Pretty cool concept. Just like it took an alt band like Radiohead to properly market an album over the internet, it's not surprising that someone like Weird Al has trailblazed this. Most artists rant about how ipods kill the "album experience." They are correct, to a point. I mean, albums absolutely have distinct feels to them as a whole. Weird Al probably agrees with this. At the same time, he is probably more like "Eh, the hell with it. This way my fans get new songs all the time instead of twice a decade."
What I am against is the fact I have to pay extra for it.
I'm not saying they should go through all the trouble of releasing a NES Cart. But this could have been done as a PSX or PSX2 CD/DVD Complete with box art and everything. But no. Its a money grab. No box art. No manual. Just a DRMed up the as download with limitless little extras to keep you paying more and more.
Um, this is a video game. It's not rice. I love Mega Man, but they have every right to sell it for $500 if they want to.
They made Mega Man cost, with all the bells, $12. I mean, you can't buy a new game for $12 today... ever. They're usually $50-$60, and sometimes as cheap brand-new as $30 or even $20. So essentially, you're still getting 10 hours of xbox fun, but for only $12. Do you really care that the "markup" from the game's budget is higher for them? Do you get pissed off paying $10 for a Dark Knight ticket and then having to pay the same to see Juno? I mean, Dark Knight gave me $200 million of awesome IMAX film, great special effects, all for $10. And Juno? It was a nice film, but only cost them $10 million to make, and I still have to pay $10? That's so unfair!
That, in a nutshell, is my argument why this is stupid. It's a $12 game. Or $10 for the fully-functional, but non-special edition version.
...for mentioning "his denial" in the summary, you just turned this into a damn forum for "truthers." You know, the people who are do deluded, they thing that Purdue University and Popular Mechanics are part of the "vast right wing conspiracy." Seriously, I've read some of their ideas on the boards. They'll literally go A->B->C->D->E->F->G and be like "and that proves Purdue University's study is faked by the gov't."
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Instead, I read of our GIs helping rebuild hospitals and helping to rebuild the infrastructure that was destroyed during the initial fighting.
Of course, you read about this in your own press.
And why exactly doesn't your press report on this?
So you're the type that thinks everyone who didn't leave New Orleans deserved the wrath of Katrina?
I see your point, but those are apples and oranges. I'm not sure if you live in a "natural disaster" area, like California earthquakes, Florida Hurricanes, Indonesian tsunamis, etc, - but let me tell you, leaflets/televised warnings of the next "big one" come every other week. And the truth is that these just don't come true often. Hell, it just happened this week - CNN tried to glorify this Italian guy who "predicted" the recent deadly earthquake in Italy. The article was later mocked and ridiculed because CNN forgot to mention (at least in the first version of the article) that this guy makes this rant every few weeks for the last 20 years. Hell, you're going to be correct once.
The point is, most people wisely or unwisely ignore these warnings of natural disasters because, let's face it, in 2009 we're not that good at predicting these things. But, warning against a HUMAN act is something that should be taken very seriously. I don't think CBS in New Orleans warning about yet another hurricane is taken the same way as a warning of a pending US Marines invasion on a specific date at a specific time.
The country I am in was never in danger of that, as Germany would have lost to the USSR quite handsomely, just a year or so later. How would have history looked after that is anyone's guess.
Wow. That's quite the talent you have there for speculation! So you can accurately describe the events of WWII had the USA not come in? You seem extremely sure that Hitler would have broken his peace agreement with the USSR?
Wow, can you please tell me what will happen in next 25 years of Pakistan, Venezuela, Israel, Iraq, Afghanistan, Taiwan and all the forver Soviet blocs?
Nope. Nice try though. Let's recap:
1. You said that in the "good old days" you weren't likely to get HIV except for gay sex and IV drug use.
2. I told you that's bullshit, and named Ryan White and Arthur Ashe as 2 examples of people that got HIV from non-sex/drug use.
3. You then said that Ryan White and Arthur Ashe's blood transfusion HIV cases were, in your words "fairly isolated incidences."
4. Then I told you that there were actually 14,262 people that got it that way, with the vast majority in the 1980s before blood screening became routine.
5. Then, instead of admitting you were wrong, you try to change what the debate is about. Instead of admitting that over 14,000 people have died from AIDS as a direct result of blood transfusions, you comically try to argue that "Not that large of a percentage of the population in the US ever gets a blood transfusion.... moot argument man."
Not that large a percentage of the population is a man that has had unprotected sex with another man in the 1980s. Also, not a large percentage of the population shared IV drug needles in the 1980s. So, um... therefore, anyone who got HIV in the 1980s from IV drug use or gay sex was... "a fairly isolated incident," right?
Keep replying, troll! I've gotten 4 fans and 2 friends because of this thread. Keep 'em coming! Gimme another ridiculous argument!
Wow, you're still trying to win this. Wow. OK, cayenne8, this may be a shock to you, but transmission of HIV via blood transfusion actually doesn't happen anymore (CDC link. The majority of HIV blood transfusions took place in the (gasp!) early 1980s. You remember, those 14,000 isolated incidents. So, it turns out that the "golden years" were actually the ONLY years you were likely to get HIV from blood transfusions. Seems like the 1980s are specifically WORSE in the very area you are claiming to be better (probably, by now, just to be a troll/flamebaiter).
You're correct, and I was wrong, to say they were purposely infected. But from your own link: "The Tuskegee Study of Untreated Syphilis in the Negro Male was a clinical study, conducted between 1932 and 1972 in Tuskegee, Alabama. The 40-year study was controversial for numerous reasons related to ethical standards, most notably because researchers had failed to treat patients appropriately after the 1940s validation of penicillin as an effective cure of the disease."
Yes..I'd say largely both [Ryan White and Arthur Ashe] examples...were fairly isolated incidences.
IAAD (I am a doctor), and dude, don't act like I didn't dare you. You should have known I already had the stats to back myself up.
"As of December 2001, an estimated 14,262 persons have been diagnosed with AIDS as a result of transfusing contaminated blood or blood products."
To you Cayenne8, Ryan White, Arthur Ashe and 14,260 other "isolated incidents" with names, with real families and real loved ones all send their love.
No one really heard much about it till about '84 or so...and it wasn't widespread, and if you weren't an IV user or having male homosexual anal sex, you likely weren't at a risk back then... I *did* say a few years before '89. Really, till about '84-'85, you could pretty much fsck anything that moved (at least heterosexually) and not have to worry much about dying if you didn't put a helmet on your soldier.
Ryan White and Arthur Ashe send their love. (Go ahead, I double-dare you to suggest those are exceptional cases).
I'm just saying that how people treat each other, society in general, and how the govt. is working against us, was not as bad back then. I feel that life and the very minimun, was much more civil, polite and relaxed then.....and decades before.
Hey, remember that time the US government purposely gave 400 of its black citizens, hell, 400 of its MILITARY men, syphillis, then watched them die? I could be cynical and say "I guess *snicker* this is what cayenne8 considers the days when the government was better!," but I really doubt you think the gov't-sponsored-and-ordered execution of 400 black men was really a good thing. Really, you're just describing what one of the GPs accurately describes as gleeful remembrance of the "good ole days."
Speed Holes!
Step 1. Go to so-called "poor country."
Step 2. Buy 10,000 units of drug X at 25% of its cost in the US/Canada/Europe.
Step 3. Sell drug X in US/Canada/Europe at 50% of its normal Drug X cost (i.e. at twice the price you paid), advertising your pharmacy as having the best prices in the country.
Step 4. (Just do step 3 a lot)
Step 5. Profit!
Don't even get me started on the cost of indy development on consoles either. Its gotten better in recent years, but you usually still have to buy a platform development kit, which usually isn't cheap.
I'm not sure about XBox or Playstation kits, but Wii development kits are less than $2,000.
I would prefer to see a music industry in the future, that is comprised of artists and consumers, where the artists are payed fair prices for their work. And no big record labels.
There's nothing wrong with a big record label. Apple is a sort of a big record label, and their prices, in my opinion, are very fair. I have problems with their 5-activation-limit, but that's a minor problem. It's just that the Sony/BMG people are BAD big record labels.
Not all big companies and corporations are evil, despite what your professor tells you. The CEO/Founder of Costco, for example, only makes 10x more than the lowest employee in his company, as opposed to 600x for GE or something. Hense, he makes a very comfortable (yet very reasonable) $350,000 a year to run a major corporation with tens of thousands of employees.
It's a lot simpler than that - games with crappy graphics don't sell. Period.
Defend Your Castle, Mega Man 9 and Geometry Wars called. They said "Shhh! Don't tell our millions of customers that they've been buying games with 1986 graphics!"
IANAP, but did catch chicken pox aged 33. It's a lot worse when you're older, much, much worse than the mild temperatures and chance of scarring in childhood.
You're absolutely correct. I was referring to the more common pediatric chicken pox. Adult onset chicken pox (or adult recurrence aka Shingles) is extremely dangerous and can absolutley kill you.
I was born in the UK in 1961, and so grew up in the era where we weren't vaccinated against things like measels and chicken pox, and so of course we caught them, and we were fine. There may be rare side effects of these diseases, but the coincident rise in autism coupled with the rise in vaccination at least doesn't indicate autism as one of the side effects. As it happened I also almost died as an infant as a result of the DTP vaccine, and consequently wasn't given the 2nd shot of the series. I did subsequently catch whooping cough, and although it was unpleasant, it's sure better than being dead.
IAAP (I am a physician - specifically pediatrics). First off, "you" may have been "fine" when you "got measles," but the population of England wasn't. Measles isn't chicken pox - it's a LOT worse. It's pretty rare to die of pox, but measles will kill you, give you encephalitis, make you go deaf, or a lot of horrible, horrible things. It's not just a bunch of itchy spots for a month.
And second, as for your reaction to the DTaP vaccine, there is a widely known side effect of the vaccine (specifically the "P" part against Pertussis, aka Whopping Cough). We are well aware of the side effect and it is known. That is not the same as speculation about an unproven side effect believed by the public and rejected by most of the scientific community. Hmm, sounds a *lot* like the Global Warming denier community. Oh wait, but those guys are kooks, right? *You're* just being skeptical, right?
That being said, your physician is either an idiot, or to be fair, maybe this wasn't known in 1960s UK - the solution to the DTaP reaction you describe is to administer just the D and T portions and not adding the Pertussis part. Congratulations, you were not immunized against Tetanus or Diptheria.
Complete BS. Absolute BS. The solar panels were NOT designed to last more than the season. Steve Squyres told our class how they tried to implement windshield wipers, "saran wrap" like films that would roll a fresh cover on the panels, and a host of other ideas, none of which were possible for various reasons. They got lucky in a lot of ways (dust devils, etc), and luck+great engineering has made this mission such a success.
Nice try being cynical, but these were designed to work for a few months. Yes, "90 days" is arbitrary. If anything, they went for a 2-3x underestimation. But a combined >5 years on Mars? There's NO FREAKING WAY Steve Squyres anticipated that. Even in his wildest dreams. This is all borrowed time, and very unexpected.
thanks a lot guys! she also talked a lot about "netball." seems like a very cool girl. (and that accent, I love it).
I have a date with an Australian on Sunday (she's from Melbourne - i'm from/we're in New York). I'll try to work the TEE thing in there. She'll wonder how I know about it, lol...
haha, no joke - I was the "stereotypical male" - my SATs: 800 math, 470 verbal. Yup.
Hmmm, I wrote "who's" instead of "whose." Well, there's a reason I wasn't an English major as an undergrad I guess...
I still remember the day he came into class and told us about the rovers. He had literally just gotten off the plane from JPL, and asked if there were any reporters in the room (for the school paper or otherwise). He then told us that since there wouldn't be a public announcement of the MERs for another month or so, that everything he told us was "off the record." it was so cool to learn that and all the other insider-info.
Ever since the two loses in 2000, NASA has had amazing success with Mars. We now have a fleet of spacecraft orbiting and on the surface of Mars. But the biggest kudos have to go to an all-around amazing guy, and my favorite professor during my undergrad education, Steve Squyres, who's "90 day" rovers are now toddlers on Mars.
Poodle Hat 2003
Straight Outta Lynwood 2006
By my count, thats 2 albums this decade. Unless he's planning on releasing a new album in the next 15 months of course. In that case, it'd be THREE albums in a decade. If said scenario happens, you are correct.
Pretty cool concept. Just like it took an alt band like Radiohead to properly market an album over the internet, it's not surprising that someone like Weird Al has trailblazed this. Most artists rant about how ipods kill the "album experience." They are correct, to a point. I mean, albums absolutely have distinct feels to them as a whole. Weird Al probably agrees with this. At the same time, he is probably more like "Eh, the hell with it. This way my fans get new songs all the time instead of twice a decade."
What I am against is the fact I have to pay extra for it.
I'm not saying they should go through all the trouble of releasing a NES Cart. But this could have been done as a PSX or PSX2 CD/DVD Complete with box art and everything. But no. Its a money grab. No box art. No manual. Just a DRMed up the as download with limitless little extras to keep you paying more and more.
Um, this is a video game. It's not rice. I love Mega Man, but they have every right to sell it for $500 if they want to.
They made Mega Man cost, with all the bells, $12. I mean, you can't buy a new game for $12 today... ever. They're usually $50-$60, and sometimes as cheap brand-new as $30 or even $20. So essentially, you're still getting 10 hours of xbox fun, but for only $12. Do you really care that the "markup" from the game's budget is higher for them? Do you get pissed off paying $10 for a Dark Knight ticket and then having to pay the same to see Juno? I mean, Dark Knight gave me $200 million of awesome IMAX film, great special effects, all for $10. And Juno? It was a nice film, but only cost them $10 million to make, and I still have to pay $10? That's so unfair!
That, in a nutshell, is my argument why this is stupid. It's a $12 game. Or $10 for the fully-functional, but non-special edition version.
...for mentioning "his denial" in the summary, you just turned this into a damn forum for "truthers." You know, the people who are do deluded, they thing that Purdue University and Popular Mechanics are part of the "vast right wing conspiracy." Seriously, I've read some of their ideas on the boards. They'll literally go A->B->C->D->E->F->G and be like "and that proves Purdue University's study is faked by the gov't."