You're entirely correct. But in the real world, systems programming accounts for only a small portion of written software. Most is firmly at the application level.
I feel confident in predicting that most of userland will eventually run in the context of some virtual machine or other. Of course, that doesn't exactly make me a prophet, since that's the plan for Longhorn, but I think it will become the norm on other platforms as well.
It would be nice if, in the long run, operating systems became irrelevant when it comes to choosing applications. You go with whatever has the best track record for speed, security, or whatever, and then just choose whatever applications you like. Since the virtual machine runs everywhere, so will your software.
I disagree - they left out the crucial bit about how the Marauder's Map came to be, and the precise connection between Moony, Padfoot, Prongs, Wormtail, and Snape. That information could have been conveyed in about a second of screen time, and would have considerably deepened the movie.
But I agree, it's the best of the three, for sure.
...says the guy with uid 822545. You're quite the embittered oldtimer, eh? I'll bet you remember the glory days of Slashdot...yep, last week, it was a whole lot better round these parts.
And I'm sure it pisses off other people when they think that you put your key into the ignition in your car without knowing every last detail of your fuel injection system and the precise gear ratios in your transmission.
People buy products to do useful, fun things. Companies like Samsung make money off said people and pay their employees.
And I'm certain the kernel source is available. So relax.
The simple fact is this: unless you're way into Friends and Frasier, the CBC kicks the ass of any U.S. programming, especially radio. The only thing that beats it is the BBC, as others have pointed out. If that means taxpayer funding and a few (very few, to be honest, TV ads, and no radio ads), then fine.
Yes, and furthermore, the employees of TrollTech who developed Qt, one of the nicest GUI toolkits in existence, should quit their jobs, give away all of their belongings, don simple clothing made of scratchy wool, and wander about the landscape begging for scraps of food and handing out handwritten copies of the GPL.
1. Okay. 2. Okay. 3. XMLRPC and SOAP mean you can write the client in whatever the hell you want. Write it in C++ with Qt, if you like (which is probably what I'd do). C# isn't faster than Java, either. Sorry. Although, Swing does suck, but who uses it? SWT is great. 4. Okay. 5. You're out to lunch. Do you have any idea of Java's penetration? Some of the largest enterprise apps on earth were written using the J2EE framework (Ford, Coca-Cola, HSBC, etc. etc.), and you're saying the unreleased, "promising" ASP.NET 2.0 is "more mature"? Grow up, kid.
Er, Java is the probably about the most deployed server app language on earth...do you actually know what you're talking about? Have you ever worked in a real situation with Java?
"As it is right now, it's a neat language whose practical applications are limited by the performance penalties."
Okay, so I've answered my own question: no. You may want to go and check out this company called IBM sometime.
And yes, I'm talking client side also. The Visual Paradigm UML tool is a nice example of a great Java app. Runs on Linux too, of course.
As an aside, there was a time on Slashdot when people actually knew what they were talking about when the subject of programming came up (back when I had a five digit uid). As the parent so clearly demonstrates, those days are gone.
I hate to be one of these "wow, awesome post" types, but really - wow, awesome post. Too bad you posted it AC, though, since you might have gotten modded up more otherwise.
You are absolutely correct, except for the bit about Anne Rice. She writes boring, overwrought schlock with absolutely no redeeming qualities. Whenever I meet an otherwise great woman who is into Anne Rice, I run.
Right, but I'm talking about changing careers. Let's say I have a bit of money saved - enough to live for six months. And I want to get out of the cubicles and do something else. "Something else" might include computer stuff - I'm a programmer - but could be anything.
I guess my problem is I have absolutely no business savvy whatsoever.
The U.S. gov't will stop ALL public funding, even that unrelated to stem cells, to any research group that accepts private funding for stem cell research. So yeah, that's a bit of a barrier, wouldn't you say?
It's such a strange debate, this "rights of the zygote" stuff. The rest of the western world got over this years ago, and continues to progress. The U.S., with its constant, energy-sapping moral debates fueled by religious irrationality, is so anachronistic. And the religious right has more in common with the Islamic nutbars then they'd like to think. I wish they'd stay out of the public sphere.
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You're entirely correct. But in the real world, systems programming accounts for only a small portion of written software. Most is firmly at the application level.
I feel confident in predicting that most of userland will eventually run in the context of some virtual machine or other. Of course, that doesn't exactly make me a prophet, since that's the plan for Longhorn, but I think it will become the norm on other platforms as well.
It would be nice if, in the long run, operating systems became irrelevant when it comes to choosing applications. You go with whatever has the best track record for speed, security, or whatever, and then just choose whatever applications you like. Since the virtual machine runs everywhere, so will your software.
I disagree - they left out the crucial bit about how the Marauder's Map came to be, and the precise connection between Moony, Padfoot, Prongs, Wormtail, and Snape. That information could have been conveyed in about a second of screen time, and would have considerably deepened the movie.
But I agree, it's the best of the three, for sure.
...says the guy with uid 822545. You're quite the embittered oldtimer, eh? I'll bet you remember the glory days of Slashdot...yep, last week, it was a whole lot better round these parts.
And I'm sure it pisses off other people when they think that you put your key into the ignition in your car without knowing every last detail of your fuel injection system and the precise gear ratios in your transmission.
People buy products to do useful, fun things. Companies like Samsung make money off said people and pay their employees.
And I'm certain the kernel source is available. So relax.
Do you believe that not collecting stamps is a hobby? No? Then how can atheism be a religion, you stupid piece of shit?
Or how about this: I have little green men living under my bed. What, you don't believe me? Why, that's no better than believing it.
Hooray! When do you think they'll finally succeed in wiping out those superstitious fools? O happy day!
Go fuck yourself, you utter, utter fool. And get off Slashdot; you clearly don't belong here.
Um...God doesn't actually exist.
Well, not unless he's able to leverage it, because it's impacting the story we have to tell.
The simple fact is this: unless you're way into Friends and Frasier, the CBC kicks the ass of any U.S. programming, especially radio. The only thing that beats it is the BBC, as others have pointed out. If that means taxpayer funding and a few (very few, to be honest, TV ads, and no radio ads), then fine.
Nietzsche made a whole lot of fuss about people who only perform virtuous acts because they feel they must. It's a false goodness.
Why not encourage people to perform virtuous acts, period? Why involve religion at all?
Yes, ejection into deep space for religious people seems better all the time.
God, Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy - all fictional beings made to excite and comfort childlike minds.
Imagine how great the world would be if all of the Christians, Muslims, and Jews were suddenly ejected into deep space.
Look to the underground:
1. Morbid Angel
2. Nile
3. Suffocation
4. Immolation
5. Arsis
Yes, that's fair enough. I was responding to the original post comparing J2EE to ASP.NET 2.0. Thanks for the clarification, however.
Yes, and furthermore, the employees of TrollTech who developed Qt, one of the nicest GUI toolkits in existence, should quit their jobs, give away all of their belongings, don simple clothing made of scratchy wool, and wander about the landscape begging for scraps of food and handing out handwritten copies of the GPL.
1. Okay.
2. Okay.
3. XMLRPC and SOAP mean you can write the client in whatever the hell you want. Write it in C++ with Qt, if you like (which is probably what I'd do). C# isn't faster than Java, either. Sorry. Although, Swing does suck, but who uses it? SWT is great.
4. Okay.
5. You're out to lunch. Do you have any idea of Java's penetration? Some of the largest enterprise apps on earth were written using the J2EE framework (Ford, Coca-Cola, HSBC, etc. etc.), and you're saying the unreleased, "promising" ASP.NET 2.0 is "more mature"? Grow up, kid.
Er, Java is the probably about the most deployed server app language on earth...do you actually know what you're talking about? Have you ever worked in a real situation with Java?
"As it is right now, it's a neat language whose practical applications are limited by the performance penalties."
Okay, so I've answered my own question: no. You may want to go and check out this company called IBM sometime.
And yes, I'm talking client side also. The Visual Paradigm UML tool is a nice example of a great Java app. Runs on Linux too, of course.
As an aside, there was a time on Slashdot when people actually knew what they were talking about when the subject of programming came up (back when I had a five digit uid). As the parent so clearly demonstrates, those days are gone.
He said: "Religion is about trying to understand what our purpose is."
Not: "Religion is about searching for purpose, and if we discover one, understanding what it is."
To me, he's assuming that we as humans have some greater purpose, and we just have to get busy and figure it out. I disagree with that assumption.
I parsed the sentence differently than you, I guess. But I stick by my original comment.
I hate to be one of these "wow, awesome post" types, but really - wow, awesome post. Too bad you posted it AC, though, since you might have gotten modded up more otherwise.
You are making the assumption that we have a purpose. There is no evidence indicating that might be the case, and in fact it is not at all necessary.
You are absolutely correct, except for the bit about Anne Rice. She writes boring, overwrought schlock with absolutely no redeeming qualities. Whenever I meet an otherwise great woman who is into Anne Rice, I run.
Right, but I'm talking about changing careers. Let's say I have a bit of money saved - enough to live for six months. And I want to get out of the cubicles and do something else. "Something else" might include computer stuff - I'm a programmer - but could be anything.
I guess my problem is I have absolutely no business savvy whatsoever.
Very insightful comment. Many people around here will consider what you said heresy, of course.
Getting out of the cubicle farm would be great. But to do what? That's the dilemma.
The U.S. gov't will stop ALL public funding, even that unrelated to stem cells, to any research group that accepts private funding for stem cell research. So yeah, that's a bit of a barrier, wouldn't you say?
It's such a strange debate, this "rights of the zygote" stuff. The rest of the western world got over this years ago, and continues to progress. The U.S., with its constant, energy-sapping moral debates fueled by religious irrationality, is so anachronistic. And the religious right has more in common with the Islamic nutbars then they'd like to think. I wish they'd stay out of the public sphere.