Cisco didn't challenge it after acquiring Linksys, who use Linux in their routers and switches. After speaking with FSF legal counsel, Cisco put up all of the source.
The company I work for has fairly deep contacts at Cisco. Believe me, they weren't concerned about bad PR. It was a legally wise decision.
The FSF has challenged many, many incidents of GPL violation. Every company challenged has chosen to settle out of court.
I suspect you don't work with GPL'd code, have never dealt with companies that do, and have actually never been involved in systems development at all.
Debian does not have a lock on dependency-resolution or easy upgrades anymore. Lots of distributions do this now - for example, Fedora (via yum or, if you like, apt). Actually, I'm finding Fedora to be a lot better than Debian, because in order to have an up-to-date Debian install you need to be running unstable. I've had bad luck with broken packages in unstable.
Anyway, I imagine Sun will have some sort of online update/upgrade program.
Actually, I'm one of those people who just don't like bad movies. Guess what: the philosophical questions asked by the Matrix movies are of the dime-store variety - and you know it. There are no "deeper philosophical layers", you twit.
The first one was great, though. But let's face it, Philip K. Dick long ago said everything the Matrix movies attempt to say, and far more eloquently.
Agreed, the movies were bad, and the Christian stuff was brutally overdone. Trinity = Mary Magdalene, and her name, of course, hints at the holy trinity. Oh, and Zion, home of the Chosen Ones. I wonder if the machines are Rome...?
Revolutions was the first movie I've been to in a long time where people were openly laughing at what was on the screen. A particular cause of mirth was Trinity's painfully extended death scene, and Neo's allegorical crucifixion at the end, complete with Jesus Christ pose.
I guess it gives the kids something to "philosophise" about between bong hits.
I can't comment on whether or not Lemann cherry-picked his data until someone debunks his debunking - which no one has, to my knowledge. "Possible", sure, but it hasn't been shown.
Of course, he's not without personal bias; no one is. But Murray was paid to produce a book that is very much in line with certain conservative views (not all, of course). Of course, as you said, personal attacks are worthless, so rather than point this out and leave it at that, he was hit where it counts - by showing his stats are baloney.
By the way, pointing out someone's funding source and possible motivations isn't an ad hominem attack.
This is a pretty thorough debunking. Murray, by the way, is funded by the ultra-conservative Bradley Institute. He is not an objective source, and his writings and "scholarship" curiously dovetail with conservative political policies.
Then why is violent crime in non-gun-carrying areas like Scandinavia and Canada so low? The UK is an anomaly. Ethnic problems and a large population of poor, undereducated people raised in a culture of thuggish violence accounts for a lot in the UK.
The bars are now open until 4 AM...but yeah, the liquor laws really suck, otherwise. My favourite is the old pub law (now more or less gone? Not enforced, anyway) where if you went to a pub, as opposed to a nightclub, you had to order food.
It's because this place was founded by a bunch of tightassed Calvinists. Thankfully, things have lightened up a lot.
Mutation isn't what you think it is, apparently. I won't make a big deal of it here, because I have no idea if you go back to old threads and read replies, but "mutation" refers to often tiny changes in the nucleotide chain of a gene. Over time, these many (MANY) random changes are subject to certain forces of selection. Most are simply weeded out; some are bad, some are good.
Now, as a "genetic researcher", you would surely know the definition of mutation used in the evolutionary sense. So why are you bringing up silly things like "incredible new species" that occur spontaneously? That's not what I'm talking about. Somehow, I doubt you are a scientist, and your "dealings" are related to creationist silliness.
The time span involved with evolution is huge, of course. Gravity has an immediate result. But gravity is actually known as General Relativity - and the evidence for that, and the math behind it, is not obvious at all. There are lots of explanations for gravity that have nothing to do with General Relativity - like, if I drop a hammer, your god grabs it out of the air and throws it at my foot. But you don't dispute Einstein's conclusions about General Relativity. Why?
You can question it all you want. Repeat the experiments that lead to current theories of how evolution happens. You will come up with the same results.
You may not understand this, so I'll try and keep it simple. In science, the word "theory" does not mean the same as it means in normal life. Scientists call something a theory when they are so damned certain about it, that it's essentially a fact. Otherwise, it's an hypothesis. Do you question the "theory" of gravitation? No, I didn't think so. How about the "theory" of special relativity? How about the "theory" behind Maxwell's equations? No? Why not? Why the emphasis on evolution?
Could it be you're religious, and you feel your goofy Christian myth must be defended at all costs?
The process of mutation, the prime mover behind evolution, is random in effect (not in frequency) and has been observed. It is quite regular in its occurence, and happens due to such things as replication mistakes in DNA and crossing over of chromosomes.
You clearly have no concept of the science behind evolution. If things were so simplistic and childish as you suggest, don't you think some smart person would have blown the whistle by now? The evidence for evolutionary theory is just as overwhelming as the evidence for General Relativity (i.e. gravity), for example.
You have a preformed belief system, and you are defending it at all costs. Opening yourself up to the world of observation and reasoning based upon evidence is foreign to you.
Libertarians are all about private everything. Unfortunately, that results in environmental destruction, as everyone buys up all the land and does something different with their chunk. Vast, unspoiled areas of wilderness (such as are found in Scandinavia, Canada, Alaska, parts of South America, parts of Africa, Australia, etc.) are the only way to guarantee ecological integrity.
Of course, lots of libertarians would say, "But what good does that do us?", because they are entirely focused on themselves and their needs.
Other libertarians try to argue that libertarianism is actually better for the environment, but their arguments are senseless and betray a huge lack of necessary education.
What it boils down to is this: applying a wide-ranging philosophy/ideology over every part of life just doesn't work. Take a little of this - for example, public ownership of certain lands - and a little of that - say, free market capitalism to determine the best consumer goods - and stir well. Applying one solution to all problems never works.
Actually, there are a zillion resellers of Telus bandwidth also. Novus, Radiant, etc. have their own servers and services at competitive prices.
People often confuse the backbone with the services offered. Though Telus does offer a DSL service, so do lots of others. That's why prices are so good here.
For what it's worth, I've had great success with Radiant.
At my parent's house in northern B.C., broadband is doing rather nicely. Of course, it's pricier than here in Vancouver, but at least it's available, unlike some hinterland like, oh, New York City.
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Huh? Wine is a reimplementation of the Win32 API and some other stuff. It uses the C libraries directly; there is no emulation. Look at the code sometime.
Some of the largest online systems in the world run Java. On the server, Java is unbeatable. I've personally witnessed massive uptimes with none of the degradation you mention. And there's this company called IBM that bases much of their server business on Java (both through WebSphere and through their consulting arm.) These apps do not perform "small activities".
Your one little client app is probably written poorly, or with a buggy Java implementation. In short, you don't know what the hell you're talking about.
Well, I can only speak for B.C., since that's where I live. Vancouver has a tech website called bctechnology.com that has job listings and, more importantly, a directory of tech companies here. So far as I can tell, though, Toronto is the place to be, but it's also a much larger city (Greater Vancouver has somewhere around 1.5 million people, Toronto is, what, 4 million?)
Otherwise, check monster.ca and so forth, not so much for specific postings, but to get a feel for what's available. Really, if you want to move here, you should show up in a city and start looking around in person - I honestly don't know what my boss would do if he got a resume from some guy in the U.S. that wasn't immediately available for an interview. Come here, check out the city and the employment situation, and talk to some companies. I think moving to a whole different country is a big decision, and Canada is more different from the U.S. than you might realise.
So far as the legalities of working here, it's pretty easy for Americans with skills and so forth, especially if you have a job offer. I know several Americans that have come here with zero problems. The site to visit is http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/ (sorry, too lazy to make the link.)
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Cisco didn't challenge it after acquiring Linksys, who use Linux in their routers and switches. After speaking with FSF legal counsel, Cisco put up all of the source.
The company I work for has fairly deep contacts at Cisco. Believe me, they weren't concerned about bad PR. It was a legally wise decision.
The FSF has challenged many, many incidents of GPL violation. Every company challenged has chosen to settle out of court.
I suspect you don't work with GPL'd code, have never dealt with companies that do, and have actually never been involved in systems development at all.
Adobe Photoshop Album, among others.
How would you be able to tell a Qt app from any other Windows app? They both use the same visual elements.
Debian does not have a lock on dependency-resolution or easy upgrades anymore. Lots of distributions do this now - for example, Fedora (via yum or, if you like, apt). Actually, I'm finding Fedora to be a lot better than Debian, because in order to have an up-to-date Debian install you need to be running unstable. I've had bad luck with broken packages in unstable.
Anyway, I imagine Sun will have some sort of online update/upgrade program.
Actually, I'm one of those people who just don't like bad movies. Guess what: the philosophical questions asked by the Matrix movies are of the dime-store variety - and you know it. There are no "deeper philosophical layers", you twit.
The first one was great, though. But let's face it, Philip K. Dick long ago said everything the Matrix movies attempt to say, and far more eloquently.
Er, yeah. I don't "understand" the Matrix, 'cause like, it's just SO deep, dude. And yeah, the dialogue was just so NOT cliched - it's like...yeah.
What the hell? That second link is like the Matrix equivalent of the Timecube.
Agreed, the movies were bad, and the Christian stuff was brutally overdone. Trinity = Mary Magdalene, and her name, of course, hints at the holy trinity. Oh, and Zion, home of the Chosen Ones. I wonder if the machines are Rome...?
Revolutions was the first movie I've been to in a long time where people were openly laughing at what was on the screen. A particular cause of mirth was Trinity's painfully extended death scene, and Neo's allegorical crucifixion at the end, complete with Jesus Christ pose.
I guess it gives the kids something to "philosophise" about between bong hits.
I can't comment on whether or not Lemann cherry-picked his data until someone debunks his debunking - which no one has, to my knowledge. "Possible", sure, but it hasn't been shown.
Of course, he's not without personal bias; no one is. But Murray was paid to produce a book that is very much in line with certain conservative views (not all, of course). Of course, as you said, personal attacks are worthless, so rather than point this out and leave it at that, he was hit where it counts - by showing his stats are baloney.
By the way, pointing out someone's funding source and possible motivations isn't an ad hominem attack.
http://slate.msn.com/id/2416/
This is a pretty thorough debunking. Murray, by the way, is funded by the ultra-conservative Bradley Institute. He is not an objective source, and his writings and "scholarship" curiously dovetail with conservative political policies.
Then why is violent crime in non-gun-carrying areas like Scandinavia and Canada so low? The UK is an anomaly. Ethnic problems and a large population of poor, undereducated people raised in a culture of thuggish violence accounts for a lot in the UK.
You dummy, the government isn't enforcing this. It's just a group of bars in one city.
But thankfully, we don't think like you.
The bars are now open until 4 AM...but yeah, the liquor laws really suck, otherwise. My favourite is the old pub law (now more or less gone? Not enforced, anyway) where if you went to a pub, as opposed to a nightclub, you had to order food.
It's because this place was founded by a bunch of tightassed Calvinists. Thankfully, things have lightened up a lot.
Ha, I appreciate the X-Men reference.
Mutation isn't what you think it is, apparently. I won't make a big deal of it here, because I have no idea if you go back to old threads and read replies, but "mutation" refers to often tiny changes in the nucleotide chain of a gene. Over time, these many (MANY) random changes are subject to certain forces of selection. Most are simply weeded out; some are bad, some are good.
Now, as a "genetic researcher", you would surely know the definition of mutation used in the evolutionary sense. So why are you bringing up silly things like "incredible new species" that occur spontaneously? That's not what I'm talking about. Somehow, I doubt you are a scientist, and your "dealings" are related to creationist silliness.
The time span involved with evolution is huge, of course. Gravity has an immediate result. But gravity is actually known as General Relativity - and the evidence for that, and the math behind it, is not obvious at all. There are lots of explanations for gravity that have nothing to do with General Relativity - like, if I drop a hammer, your god grabs it out of the air and throws it at my foot. But you don't dispute Einstein's conclusions about General Relativity. Why?
You can question it all you want. Repeat the experiments that lead to current theories of how evolution happens. You will come up with the same results.
You may not understand this, so I'll try and keep it simple. In science, the word "theory" does not mean the same as it means in normal life. Scientists call something a theory when they are so damned certain about it, that it's essentially a fact. Otherwise, it's an hypothesis. Do you question the "theory" of gravitation? No, I didn't think so. How about the "theory" of special relativity? How about the "theory" behind Maxwell's equations? No? Why not? Why the emphasis on evolution?
Could it be you're religious, and you feel your goofy Christian myth must be defended at all costs?
The process of mutation, the prime mover behind evolution, is random in effect (not in frequency) and has been observed. It is quite regular in its occurence, and happens due to such things as replication mistakes in DNA and crossing over of chromosomes.
You clearly have no concept of the science behind evolution. If things were so simplistic and childish as you suggest, don't you think some smart person would have blown the whistle by now? The evidence for evolutionary theory is just as overwhelming as the evidence for General Relativity (i.e. gravity), for example.
You have a preformed belief system, and you are defending it at all costs. Opening yourself up to the world of observation and reasoning based upon evidence is foreign to you.
Because, of course, no television program that sucks ever gets aired in the U.S. No, it was because U.S. TV network sensibilities couldn't handle it.
No one cares that you are illiterate.
Why are you bringing your paranoid political views into a discussion about NASA management? Please leave your irrelevant biases at home.
Libertarians are all about private everything. Unfortunately, that results in environmental destruction, as everyone buys up all the land and does something different with their chunk. Vast, unspoiled areas of wilderness (such as are found in Scandinavia, Canada, Alaska, parts of South America, parts of Africa, Australia, etc.) are the only way to guarantee ecological integrity.
Of course, lots of libertarians would say, "But what good does that do us?", because they are entirely focused on themselves and their needs.
Other libertarians try to argue that libertarianism is actually better for the environment, but their arguments are senseless and betray a huge lack of necessary education.
What it boils down to is this: applying a wide-ranging philosophy/ideology over every part of life just doesn't work. Take a little of this - for example, public ownership of certain lands - and a little of that - say, free market capitalism to determine the best consumer goods - and stir well. Applying one solution to all problems never works.
Actually, there are a zillion resellers of Telus bandwidth also. Novus, Radiant, etc. have their own servers and services at competitive prices.
People often confuse the backbone with the services offered. Though Telus does offer a DSL service, so do lots of others. That's why prices are so good here.
For what it's worth, I've had great success with Radiant.
Excellent response.
At my parent's house in northern B.C., broadband is doing rather nicely. Of course, it's pricier than here in Vancouver, but at least it's available, unlike some hinterland like, oh, New York City.
Huh? Wine is a reimplementation of the Win32 API and some other stuff. It uses the C libraries directly; there is no emulation. Look at the code sometime.
Some of the largest online systems in the world run Java. On the server, Java is unbeatable. I've personally witnessed massive uptimes with none of the degradation you mention. And there's this company called IBM that bases much of their server business on Java (both through WebSphere and through their consulting arm.) These apps do not perform "small activities".
Your one little client app is probably written poorly, or with a buggy Java implementation. In short, you don't know what the hell you're talking about.
Well, I can only speak for B.C., since that's where I live. Vancouver has a tech website called bctechnology.com that has job listings and, more importantly, a directory of tech companies here. So far as I can tell, though, Toronto is the place to be, but it's also a much larger city (Greater Vancouver has somewhere around 1.5 million people, Toronto is, what, 4 million?)
Otherwise, check monster.ca and so forth, not so much for specific postings, but to get a feel for what's available. Really, if you want to move here, you should show up in a city and start looking around in person - I honestly don't know what my boss would do if he got a resume from some guy in the U.S. that wasn't immediately available for an interview. Come here, check out the city and the employment situation, and talk to some companies. I think moving to a whole different country is a big decision, and Canada is more different from the U.S. than you might realise.
So far as the legalities of working here, it's pretty easy for Americans with skills and so forth, especially if you have a job offer. I know several Americans that have come here with zero problems. The site to visit is http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/ (sorry, too lazy to make the link.)
Anyway, I hope that helps.
If you live in Vancouver and can show up for an interview, and you think you qualify, leave an email address.