I second Wing. The Wingware guys give fantastic service. They contibute hugely to the Python community. And Wing is just a freaking great Python IDE. SVN integration is nice. Stack monitor is nice. In-stackframe interpreter is golden. Zope/Plone integration is nice. Completely love it. I have a 3 OS license and use it all the time on all three.
Yes, the broken window fallacy is the correct assessment. Calling the inspiration of space exploration "unique" was an attempt to skirt the fallacy. The enonomics, though, is the correct basis to evaluate the decisions. Resources are limited to solve problems. There are more important problems than space beauty and fantasy, such as energy, environment, education, and poverty. Government spending on those problems are equal economic engines with more practical benefit. What is not spent on the broken window can have better benefit elsewhere and for would be space glaziers. It would be great for geeks to find inspiration in that. The principal benefactor of space exploration is the defense industry. Pretty pictures of distant galaxies distract geeks from that fact and provide a false inspiration.
As far as going that far, that's why it's a litmus test. You might suspect it's testably open source. But a test will tell you if it's true and tested.
Really? I can't see how anybody won anything. Consumers were sued. That's hardly a win. And now everybody hates the music industry more than ever before. That's not a win, either.
The RIAA/MPAA are kind of like GW Bush, fighting a war they never should have started, that nobody wants, and that is doing nothing but harm.
There are plenty of great jobs for PhDs in applied math fields: meteorology, oceanography, astrophysics, particle physics, etc.. These are the most fun kinds of jobs to have.
But an army of windmills in a rank and file, like an invading army of robot warriors, is downright ugly.
For your taste, anyway
I passed over one hundred windmills lined up beside the road through the Vienna Woods last year. The sight was inspiring.
Such a form of taste used to be known as futurism. Just like a City Museum made out of junk is a post-industrial form of primitivism. And the appreciation of rusting falling apart windmills some kind of sentimental romanticism.
But make no mistake, calling an "army" of power generating windmills "invading" is a matter of taste. And requiring this or that particular artist "should design" windmills is an imposition of one taste as privileged. I don't know that I want a landscape of windmills made to look like the St. Louis City Museum. But when it comes windmills of the type for modern power generation, I think you will find there has already been a considerable amount of design applied of a considerably advanced aesthetic. Such engineering design is our highest form of "art," both in vision and technique.
We live in changing environment where the kind of aesthetic we privilege is going to have to change. I'll choose to appreciate engineers, designers, artists, and citizens who prefer design which privileges a sustainable environment.
not really. first, zserver is never "replaced" by apache. it, or squid, or pound, or eve iis may front end zope, but not replace medusa. second, why are you using mod_ntlm? there are at least two supported plone/zope ntlm/ad products. check out enfold server.
It was a no-brainer to pick Plone/Zope over SP/CMS yet the CEO balked over the OSS choice because of the perceived lack of support.
You know, this happens over and over and I've come to the conclusion that execs and mgrs who talk out their asses about how FOSS, and specifically Plone, has no support should be fired with prejudice for their incompetence. They end up costing companies so much money when they run out and buy proprietary software that isn't nearly as good and still requires support, usually as a captive of one company. And they do this only because they can't do what they are paid to do: think. See my response elsewhere in this thread about multiple Plone commercial support companies and message me or reply if you need more help.
1) Zope Corp CMS products attempt to compete with Plone. Nothing shocking about Zope Corp not commercially supporting Plone. They have the open source Zope community in common. That doesn't translate into Zope Corp being a Plone support company.
2) Don't guess about commercial Plone support. Zettai is a (very good) hosting company. The Plone support heavyweights in the U.S are Enfold Systems, Cignex, Tyrell, and Six Feet Up (and a bunch of others, but these are the ones of which I have most knowledge). In Europe, there are so many but I have to call out Blue Dynamics, Ingeniweb, Pilot Systems, Redomino and of course, Plone Solutions as a heavyweights. There are many independent Plone consultants as well. It's good to be a part of the Plone community and active on the IRC channels and mailing list so you can see who the most talented developers are and what support companies they work for.
Drupal has changed quite a lot in the past 2-3 years.
The initial release of Drupal was Jan 15, 2001.
My big Drupal crash was last August. I've been using Plone for over two years (from about the time it was released as well) and it was good to start with. I inherited the Drupal nightmare. For a CMS to be flexible enough, it needs an application server. Plone is a CMS which runs on a Zope application server. Zope is an application server tailor made for CMSes. The whole architecture of Drupal is part of what makes it a mess. Mostly it's just PHP mixing up presentation, content, and logic, making things ultra brittle.
Please save me from the same trouble - what solution did you find that was better?
Plone and a dedicated server.
It has the disadvantage of needing to know what you are doing, but it was the solution.
I would reject all PHP CMSes out of hand. An application server was the way to go. Java frameworks were overly cumbersome. Zope/Plone had the perfect separation of content, presentation, and logic. It's been a great experience for me for over two years now. Not perfect. But not a soul sucking headache, either.
I don't know about your state, but I reported a phisher to my state bureau of investigation, because the phisher was targetting a state employee credit union, and the sbi pursued it.
I think your only liability is not to report it. Just report it to law enforcement instead.
If someone intentionally interferes with your business, yes, you should sue the fuck out of them. Especially if they have the ability to pay, like a bank.
However, I'm puzzled by this vulnerability you patched to prevent phishing. I, too, don't think you know what it means.
Drupal is the leading open-source (written in PHP) content management system
Bollocks. Slightly ahead of Mambo, Drupal is the leading CMS headache, a brittle pile of PHP script kiddie crap which probably caused their shared host to go down, as it did on my old shared host. "After 48 hours," I wouldn't "[still] have [not] responded to [our] support requests," either. I wish I could have back the month of my life extracating myself from Drupal cost me.
Slashdot Mirror
...a Fox News story? To Slashdot? Really?
I second Wing. The Wingware guys give fantastic service. They contibute hugely to the Python community. And Wing is just a freaking great Python IDE. SVN integration is nice. Stack monitor is nice. In-stackframe interpreter is golden. Zope/Plone integration is nice. Completely love it. I have a 3 OS license and use it all the time on all three.
The total cost of the US space program to date wouldn't pay the 2007 budget of any one of those 'important problems'. It wouldn't even come close.
Just so you know how wrong you are, NASA's FY07 budget is $20 billion, EPA's is $7 billion, and NOAA's is $4 billion.
Yes, the broken window fallacy is the correct assessment. Calling the inspiration of space exploration "unique" was an attempt to skirt the fallacy. The enonomics, though, is the correct basis to evaluate the decisions. Resources are limited to solve problems. There are more important problems than space beauty and fantasy, such as energy, environment, education, and poverty. Government spending on those problems are equal economic engines with more practical benefit. What is not spent on the broken window can have better benefit elsewhere and for would be space glaziers. It would be great for geeks to find inspiration in that. The principal benefactor of space exploration is the defense industry. Pretty pictures of distant galaxies distract geeks from that fact and provide a false inspiration.
Thanks. :)
As far as going that far, that's why it's a litmus test. You might suspect it's testably open source. But a test will tell you if it's true and tested.
Is it possible to maintain control of a project under the GPL or are you constantly faced with forks?
It isn't truly open source until it's been forked.
"consumers won."
Really? I can't see how anybody won anything. Consumers were sued. That's hardly a win. And now everybody hates the music industry more than ever before. That's not a win, either.
The RIAA/MPAA are kind of like GW Bush, fighting a war they never should have started, that nobody wants, and that is doing nothing but harm.
There are plenty of great jobs for PhDs in applied math fields: meteorology, oceanography, astrophysics, particle physics, etc.. These are the most fun kinds of jobs to have.
it was nice knowin' ya while it lasted.
But an army of windmills in a rank and file, like an invading army of robot warriors, is downright ugly.
For your taste, anyway
I passed over one hundred windmills lined up beside the road through the Vienna Woods last year. The sight was inspiring.
Such a form of taste used to be known as futurism. Just like a City Museum made out of junk is a post-industrial form of primitivism. And the appreciation of rusting falling apart windmills some kind of sentimental romanticism.
But make no mistake, calling an "army" of power generating windmills "invading" is a matter of taste. And requiring this or that particular artist "should design" windmills is an imposition of one taste as privileged. I don't know that I want a landscape of windmills made to look like the St. Louis City Museum. But when it comes windmills of the type for modern power generation, I think you will find there has already been a considerable amount of design applied of a considerably advanced aesthetic. Such engineering design is our highest form of "art," both in vision and technique.
We live in changing environment where the kind of aesthetic we privilege is going to have to change. I'll choose to appreciate engineers, designers, artists, and citizens who prefer design which privileges a sustainable environment.
Bring on the invasion.
...to calling aestheticians environmentalists.
Big agreement. I've not had a Yahoo email delivery problem in eight years.
not really. first, zserver is never "replaced" by apache. it, or squid, or pound, or eve iis may front end zope, but not replace medusa. second, why are you using mod_ntlm? there are at least two supported plone/zope ntlm/ad products. check out enfold server.
You know, this happens over and over and I've come to the conclusion that execs and mgrs who talk out their asses about how FOSS, and specifically Plone, has no support should be fired with prejudice for their incompetence. They end up costing companies so much money when they run out and buy proprietary software that isn't nearly as good and still requires support, usually as a captive of one company. And they do this only because they can't do what they are paid to do: think. See my response elsewhere in this thread about multiple Plone commercial support companies and message me or reply if you need more help.
1) Zope Corp CMS products attempt to compete with Plone. Nothing shocking about Zope Corp not commercially supporting Plone. They have the open source Zope community in common. That doesn't translate into Zope Corp being a Plone support company.
2) Don't guess about commercial Plone support. Zettai is a (very good) hosting company. The Plone support heavyweights in the U.S are Enfold Systems, Cignex, Tyrell, and Six Feet Up (and a bunch of others, but these are the ones of which I have most knowledge). In Europe, there are so many but I have to call out Blue Dynamics, Ingeniweb, Pilot Systems, Redomino and of course, Plone Solutions as a heavyweights. There are many independent Plone consultants as well. It's good to be a part of the Plone community and active on the IRC channels and mailing list so you can see who the most talented developers are and what support companies they work for.
is on crack.
Switch? I don't use anything but PostGres.
...Oracle will have MySQL for breakfast soon enough.
doesn't allow you to use Python in the HTML statements
if you are embedding language statements in your HTML, you have made the egregious mistake of combining rendered content and logic (ala PHP).
however, any decent templating language, including Django's, will allow you to embed language expressions in your HTML.
You can do absolutely anything with Plone - except have decent performance
Then you don't know what you're doing.
Sure, you can improve speed by doing a whole hunk of stuff
As in, sure, you can know what you're doing.
Please mark parent as flamebait.
Drupal has changed quite a lot in the past 2-3 years.
The initial release of Drupal was Jan 15, 2001.
My big Drupal crash was last August. I've been using Plone for over two years (from about the time it was released as well) and it was good to start with. I inherited the Drupal nightmare. For a CMS to be flexible enough, it needs an application server. Plone is a CMS which runs on a Zope application server. Zope is an application server tailor made for CMSes. The whole architecture of Drupal is part of what makes it a mess. Mostly it's just PHP mixing up presentation, content, and logic, making things ultra brittle.
Please save me from the same trouble - what solution did you find that was better?
Plone and a dedicated server.
It has the disadvantage of needing to know what you are doing, but it was the solution.
I would reject all PHP CMSes out of hand. An application server was the way to go. Java frameworks were overly cumbersome. Zope/Plone had the perfect separation of content, presentation, and logic. It's been a great experience for me for over two years now. Not perfect. But not a soul sucking headache, either.
I don't know about your state, but I reported a phisher to my state bureau of investigation, because the phisher was targetting a state employee credit union, and the sbi pursued it.
I think your only liability is not to report it. Just report it to law enforcement instead.
If someone intentionally interferes with your business, yes, you should sue the fuck out of them. Especially if they have the ability to pay, like a bank.
However, I'm puzzled by this vulnerability you patched to prevent phishing. I, too, don't think you know what it means.
Bollocks. Slightly ahead of Mambo, Drupal is the leading CMS headache, a brittle pile of PHP script kiddie crap which probably caused their shared host to go down, as it did on my old shared host. "After 48 hours," I wouldn't "[still] have [not] responded to [our] support requests," either. I wish I could have back the month of my life extracating myself from Drupal cost me.
...this means MS will be fixing the gigantic memory leaks in the XmlHttp implementation in IE?