The paper was published in Science, one of the world's most prestigious journals, so you can be fairly sure the science it is based on is good.
No, publishing in Science doesn't mean that the science is "good", it only means Science editors and peer-reviewers felt that the science was _good_enough_for_now_.
Besides, we're not even looking at a peer-reviewed Science study here, we're looking at an article interpreting the Science study. In other words, this could just be a journalist recopying some anonymous Press Release misquoting and misinterpreting the entire study.
This kind of thing happens frequently enough I don't trust anything I read/see in the Medias.
Nagatzhul,
I'm also a meta-moderator and I modded the troll rating of your second post as unfair. Unfortunatly due to the nature of this topic, the moderators of this thread are a self-selected group and their mods are not going to reflect the types of mods you would get from your average Slashdotter.
Have a nice day.
Stephan
Dear Mods
by - on Monday July 28, @08:00PM (#6536549)
Please learn the difference between flamebait and an opinion. My opinion is that the study is bogus. It is manufactured to create a number that can not possibly be reached to keep whales from being hunted according to international treaty. Deal with it.
"All I want is a warm bed and a kind word and unlimited power." - Ashleigh Brilliant
Original Discussion: Genetic Study Provides Estimate of Whale Populations
Rating: Troll.
This rating is Unfair Fair | See Context
One guy got a quick look at the code on a powerpoint slide. He said it was only a vendor-supplied driver for something. That's why the code was identical, but as far as he knew -- the SCO claims were total BS.
Personally, I wouldn't be surprised if some analyst was fooled by that kind of ploy. I think the story is somewhere on Slashdot, but there are so many SCO stories, I'm not even going to try looking for it.
The best lecturers will factor time into their lectures for questions and interruptions on difficult points or particularly relevant tangents. Lectures are intended not only to impart knowledge but to solicit interaction from the class, engender debate, encourage learning from peers and to allow interaction with the material.
I'm glad you went to a school where you only had the best lecturers teaching you. I guess that's where all the best lecturers went. They went to your school. In my case, I went to a school where I only had the best researchers/most famous Professors teaching me and only a handful of them happened to be outstanding lecturers.
One of my Computer Science Professor used to anonymously instant message his missing students during lecture. It was pretty easy for him because all the students were assigned a class unix account with a common prefix. He used to ask general questions about the class, the professor, and then he would always finish with a clincher by asking "How come you're not in class right now?"
Why not just ignore it? You get a nastygram from them, throw it out.
I used to work for a Fortune 500 company and they were taken in by the International Business Directory scam. Some employees/managers preferred paying them off instead of receiving more harrassing phone calls. I have no doubt those same employees/managers who paid off those scammers would also pay off the SCO scammers as well.
Verizon did want to hand over names and IPs, and I can assure you they have much more legal firepower than a college...
Those two Universities are at the forefront of Intellectual Property Law. If they get their faculty on board, I can assure you they have more legal firepower than Verizon.
In any case, this point is moot since they don't seem like they're trying to fight it.
At least, they delayed the intrusion and they gave their students ample notice that they were going to be raided. That's not bad.
"Adding one little line of code to every one of the myriad of pages on the New York Times website is not a small deal. "
The poster below is absolutely right. Only one file needs to be modified.
The parent likes to talk about the "first rule of web design", but he obviously never has published a web site in his life.
Remember that you're talking about a government organization. And I don't care if it's one of the most well founded. You can't really get more inefficient than a government organization.
One documented example is the "civilian" American outfit that recently got hit in Saudi Arabia. This was a private company in charge of training the elite forces of Saudi Arabia. Its funding came from the House of Saud, but that "private" outfit was under the complete control of one American government official.
Another documented example is Israel. Israel distributes funding and weapons to our friends throughout the world. And not just to the Middle East, Israel has been linked to many of our black ops in South America.
The relationship with Israel is reminiscent of the old days. The Catholic Church used jews to be tax collectors. Now, the United States uses Israel to be our military enforcers. The plan is simple. People in the world are going to hate the United States as much as they hated the Catholic Church, but Israel and the jews are going to always bear the overwhelming brunt of that Hate.
Cool. Still, is there a Linux-based browser that will do this? I am asking this because my primary machine is a linux box and my other machines are Windows-based.
"And about 75% of the moaning I've heard will go away when and if browsers build a better text entry field, preferably with good spell-checking, into the browser. This would have long since happened if Microsoft did not have a strategic interest in not doing this and if they did not own so much of the browser market. "
Do you know of a Linux-based browser working on this already?
"guns can't really do anything useful other than kill and main"
When a gun is used, ~99% of the time, it isn't even fired. When my mother defended herself from my father, she didn't fire it, but she did use it. All the media accounts and most of the studies I've seen don't take this into account.
By Stephen Shankland
Staff Writer, CNET News.com
July 10, 2003, 1:19 PM PT
A previously secret licensee of SCO Group's Unix intellectual property has revealed its identity: Unix leader Sun Microsystems.
SCO's Unix licensing plan got a major boost of publicity in May when Microsoft announced its decision to license Unix from SCO, but Sun actually was the first company to sign on. SCO and Sun confirmed the licensing deal on Wednesday. The pact, signed earlier this year, expanded the rights Sun acquired in 1994 to use Unix in its Solaris operating system. But there's more to the relationship: SCO also granted Sun a warrant to buy as many as 210,000 shares of SCO stock at $1.83 per share as part of the licensing deal, according to a regulatory document filed Tuesday.
Sun, the No. 1 seller of Unix servers, declined to comment on the option to take a stake in SCO Group. Fortune on Monday published news of the expanded Sun contract.
Sun's expanded license permits Sun to use some software from Unix System V Release 4 for software components called drivers, which let computers use hard drives, network cards and other devices. Sun needed the software for its version of Solaris that runs on Intel servers, Sun spokesman Brett Smith said. A source familiar with the deal said the new contract was signed in February, but neither Sun nor SCO would comment.
SCO, which hasn't had much success selling its own Unix products and which has pulled the plug on its Linux products, is trying to generate more money from its Unix intellectual property. The highest-profile result of that effort has been an SCO lawsuit against IBM that alleges IBM misappropriated SCO trade secrets and violated its Unix contracts, for which SCO now is seeking more than $3 billion.
Sun hasn't been ashamed to try to profit from the effects of that suit. It jumped at the chance to declare itself a safe haven for spooked technology buyers: "Sun's complete line of Solaris and Linux products...are covered by Sun's portfolio of Unix licensing agreements. Solaris and Sun Linux represent safe choices for those companies that develop and deploy services based on Unix systems," Sun declared the day SCO filed suit against IBM.
"Now we know why Sun was so absolutely confident about where they stand in this whole thing that they were essentially able to turn it into some marketing and sales FUD (fear, uncertainty and doubt) of their own," Illuminata analyst Gordon Haff said.
Sun's Smith said the company is being careful to ensure that its Unix intellectual property is "very clean."
"We've always made sure we're very aboveboard," Smith said. "We've made sure the i's are dotted, the t's are crossed." Before the newest contract was signed, Sun had spent $82 million acquiring rights to use Unix, Smith said. Among Sun's privileges is the right to show Solaris' underlying source code to customers, SCO said.
One thing has changed in Sun's Linux position, though. Its first Linux products used Sun's own version of the operating system, but at the end of March, the company decided instead to form partnerships with Linux sellers such as Red Hat. Smith said Sun doesn't know yet if the legal protections of its Unix licenses extend to other companies' versions of Linux.
SCO declined to comment on terms of the license deals with Sun and Microsoft, but SCO said in May that it earned $8.3 million in revenue in the quarter ended April 30 as a result of the licenses. In the Tuesday regulatory filing, SCO said the two licenses will generate an additional $5 million in the three quarters after that, for a total of $13.3 million.
In addition, Microsoft has the option to expand its licensing rights in the future, a move that would mean additional payments to SCO, the filing said.
Slashdot Mirror
It's UK gibberish. Don't pay any heed to it.
No, publishing in Science doesn't mean that the science is "good", it only means Science editors and peer-reviewers felt that the science was _good_enough_for_now_.
Besides, we're not even looking at a peer-reviewed Science study here, we're looking at an article interpreting the Science study. In other words, this could just be a journalist recopying some anonymous Press Release misquoting and misinterpreting the entire study.
This kind of thing happens frequently enough I don't trust anything I read/see in the Medias.
I'm also a meta-moderator and I modded the troll rating of your second post as unfair. Unfortunatly due to the nature of this topic, the moderators of this thread are a self-selected group and their mods are not going to reflect the types of mods you would get from your average Slashdotter.
Have a nice day.
Stephan
Dear Mods by - on Monday July 28, @08:00PM (#6536549) Please learn the difference between flamebait and an opinion. My opinion is that the study is bogus. It is manufactured to create a number that can not possibly be reached to keep whales from being hunted according to international treaty. Deal with it. "All I want is a warm bed and a kind word and unlimited power." - Ashleigh Brilliant Original Discussion: Genetic Study Provides Estimate of Whale Populations Rating: Troll. This rating is Unfair Fair | See Context
Personally, I wouldn't be surprised if some analyst was fooled by that kind of ploy. I think the story is somewhere on Slashdot, but there are so many SCO stories, I'm not even going to try looking for it.
Bill's dad was also a hotshot lawyer at the time. For all we know, Bill could have just been his dad's pawn.
Not if you're a shoplifter.
I'm glad you went to a school where you only had the best lecturers teaching you. I guess that's where all the best lecturers went. They went to your school. In my case, I went to a school where I only had the best researchers/most famous Professors teaching me and only a handful of them happened to be outstanding lecturers.
One of my Computer Science Professor used to anonymously instant message his missing students during lecture. It was pretty easy for him because all the students were assigned a class unix account with a common prefix. He used to ask general questions about the class, the professor, and then he would always finish with a clincher by asking "How come you're not in class right now?"
I used to work for a Fortune 500 company and they were taken in by the International Business Directory scam. Some employees/managers preferred paying them off instead of receiving more harrassing phone calls. I have no doubt those same employees/managers who paid off those scammers would also pay off the SCO scammers as well.
Sperm donations. I think most slashdoters don't realize they can be sued for child support even when they donate their sperm to a sperm bank.
My German is a little rusty. Can someone help me with this. The german web server of the SCO group is definitly not an Irish bar??
Those two Universities are at the forefront of Intellectual Property Law. If they get their faculty on board, I can assure you they have more legal firepower than Verizon. In any case, this point is moot since they don't seem like they're trying to fight it.
At least, they delayed the intrusion and they gave their students ample notice that they were going to be raided. That's not bad.
Yes, I was a bit snippy.
The poster below is absolutely right. Only one file needs to be modified. The parent likes to talk about the "first rule of web design", but he obviously never has published a web site in his life.
What!? Media companies don't tell us about stupid media protection laws. I wonder why they would do such a thing.
I believe spoofs and extreme versions of Mickey Mouse would be allowed under copyright law.
Remember that you're talking about a government organization. And I don't care if it's one of the most well founded. You can't really get more inefficient than a government organization.
Another documented example is Israel. Israel distributes funding and weapons to our friends throughout the world. And not just to the Middle East, Israel has been linked to many of our black ops in South America.
The relationship with Israel is reminiscent of the old days. The Catholic Church used jews to be tax collectors. Now, the United States uses Israel to be our military enforcers. The plan is simple. People in the world are going to hate the United States as much as they hated the Catholic Church, but Israel and the jews are going to always bear the overwhelming brunt of that Hate.
Cool. Still, is there a Linux-based browser that will do this? I am asking this because my primary machine is a linux box and my other machines are Windows-based.
I second the vote for spamgourmet. It's free, it has multiple domains to chose from, and it has lots of other neat features.
Do you know of a Linux-based browser working on this already?
When a gun is used, ~99% of the time, it isn't even fired. When my mother defended herself from my father, she didn't fire it, but she did use it. All the media accounts and most of the studies I've seen don't take this into account.
Sun expands Unix deal with SCO
By Stephen Shankland
Staff Writer, CNET News.com
July 10, 2003, 1:19 PM PT
A previously secret licensee of SCO Group's Unix intellectual property has revealed its identity: Unix leader Sun Microsystems.
SCO's Unix licensing plan got a major boost of publicity in May when Microsoft announced its decision to license Unix from SCO, but Sun actually was the first company to sign on. SCO and Sun confirmed the licensing deal on Wednesday. The pact, signed earlier this year, expanded the rights Sun acquired in 1994 to use Unix in its Solaris operating system. But there's more to the relationship: SCO also granted Sun a warrant to buy as many as 210,000 shares of SCO stock at $1.83 per share as part of the licensing deal, according to a regulatory document filed Tuesday.
Sun, the No. 1 seller of Unix servers, declined to comment on the option to take a stake in SCO Group. Fortune on Monday published news of the expanded Sun contract.
Sun's expanded license permits Sun to use some software from Unix System V Release 4 for software components called drivers, which let computers use hard drives, network cards and other devices. Sun needed the software for its version of Solaris that runs on Intel servers, Sun spokesman Brett Smith said. A source familiar with the deal said the new contract was signed in February, but neither Sun nor SCO would comment.
SCO, which hasn't had much success selling its own Unix products and which has pulled the plug on its Linux products, is trying to generate more money from its Unix intellectual property. The highest-profile result of that effort has been an SCO lawsuit against IBM that alleges IBM misappropriated SCO trade secrets and violated its Unix contracts, for which SCO now is seeking more than $3 billion.
Sun hasn't been ashamed to try to profit from the effects of that suit. It jumped at the chance to declare itself a safe haven for spooked technology buyers: "Sun's complete line of Solaris and Linux products...are covered by Sun's portfolio of Unix licensing agreements. Solaris and Sun Linux represent safe choices for those companies that develop and deploy services based on Unix systems," Sun declared the day SCO filed suit against IBM.
"Now we know why Sun was so absolutely confident about where they stand in this whole thing that they were essentially able to turn it into some marketing and sales FUD (fear, uncertainty and doubt) of their own," Illuminata analyst Gordon Haff said.
Sun's Smith said the company is being careful to ensure that its Unix intellectual property is "very clean."
"We've always made sure we're very aboveboard," Smith said. "We've made sure the i's are dotted, the t's are crossed." Before the newest contract was signed, Sun had spent $82 million acquiring rights to use Unix, Smith said. Among Sun's privileges is the right to show Solaris' underlying source code to customers, SCO said.
One thing has changed in Sun's Linux position, though. Its first Linux products used Sun's own version of the operating system, but at the end of March, the company decided instead to form partnerships with Linux sellers such as Red Hat. Smith said Sun doesn't know yet if the legal protections of its Unix licenses extend to other companies' versions of Linux.
SCO declined to comment on terms of the license deals with Sun and Microsoft, but SCO said in May that it earned $8.3 million in revenue in the quarter ended April 30 as a result of the licenses. In the Tuesday regulatory filing, SCO said the two licenses will generate an additional $5 million in the three quarters after that, for a total of $13.3 million.
In addition, Microsoft has the option to expand its licensing rights in the future, a move that would mean additional payments to SCO, the filing said.
Al
Come on, be honest. You were not going to buy anything from Sun anyway.
Preemptive War on Terrorism. Almost taken care of.
Preemptive War on Little Green Men. That's our next Goal.