If you drive a car-car I'll tax the street If you try to sit-sit I'll tax your seat If you get too cold I'll tax the heat If you take a walk I'll tax your feet Tax man
Honestly, folks, this is not an original attempt at problem solving here. This is the kind of thing that ordinary ninnies in the U.S. legislature think up.
If you haven't figured it out already, you have just been handed the chance to clobber TurboTax. This is like Coke adding broccoli flavoring to their cola. Offer TaxCut at 50% off to everyone that used TurboTax last year.
Also make sure you don't do the same as Intuit, and you just might be able to corner the tax software market.
I used it trying to work around the lack of fork() in Win32. Perl's emulation didn't quite cut it. I was trying to watch a process through CGI without timing out the page, and was having all sorts of fun problems and wasting a lot of time.
I didn't know about POE until Randal Schwartz recommended it (thanks Randal), but it solved my problem and performs quite well. I didn't push it past about 8 simultaneous processes, but it worked very well and seems very stable.
I agree about performance. I signed up for the beta of GNOME 2.0 with Sun (yeah, I got some free stuff for it!) and performance was always significantly slower than CDE. Maybe 5-10 times slower on average when just moving windows, opening new shells, etc.
It was usable, but going back to CDE brought me back to "no waits" for anything. Oh, I was running on a Blade 1000, dual 750s, 5GB of RAM with virtually no load.
Water DOESN'T conduct electricity in itself. Generally, water has significant mineral content, which is what is actually conductive.
Remember the experiment in school where you disassociated water with electricity? You added salt or something to the water right? Try doing that same experiment with distilled water...
I don't necessarily agree with this. This is not to say there aren't a lot of dishonest mechanics out there. BUT...
I worked as a professional mechanic for several years, and I was very honest in all of my work. However, a car is like the Windows operating system. If you don't do ANYTHING to it but run it for a year, you need to do SOMETHING. (oil change at least?)
You as the "driver" or (semi)clueless user, might think your car is in "perfect running order" when I might know your model car so well I would bet a week's pay that a certain component will fail before X number of miles.
Personally, I find these "phantom" issues on my own vehicles (and my relatives) and fix them. When I worked as a mechanic, I had customers that understood this and appreciated a proactive maintenance approach. One time a customer asked me to justify why, 2 weeks after a routine maintenance check, one of their headlights went out. The question to me was "why didn't you replace it before it burned completely out?" (I'm not kidding about this)
I never said "oh my gosh, you must replace this or you won't make it home", but I would explain any issues (especially one that weren't obvious) and what I believe should be done but ultimately leave the customer with minimal or no pressure.
Don't discredit solid auto mechanics. If I could make the same money I do now in software if I went back to being a mechanic, I would do it in an instant.
This is a positive thing, for the reasons RedHat is stating; namely that many users don't want to make a decision between "this one" or "that one". How many times have people whined on/. that Linux will never make it to the desktop because there are too many tweaks things the users need to learn.
This is RedHat's way of making Linux more appealing to the end user. Good for them.
If you don't like it, do what I do and run Slackware (or other distro of choice), but bravo for the RedHat folks. This is a positive step.
I am only a dozen or so weeks away from finally finishing my degree, which I have been working on as I work full time for a little over four years. I work full time (45-50 hours a week) during the day and study at night. My employer has a decent tuition reimbursement plan, which I have taken full advantage of.
Holding a steady girlfriend is difficult to impossible, but school ranks higher on my priority list, so they have to understand that. I now have 5 years of real-world experience in tech, along with the degree, and because I have a carefully balanced schedule, my co-workers and boss get the impression that I'm super-organized.:) I average 35 hours of study per week, which I'm motivated to do, because it costs $275-300 per week to be in school. (company pays approx. 35% of that)
It IS a big commitment, but I wasn't willing to sacrifice the experience while I sat on campus somewhere making little or no money. Now, I would not want to be graduating and trying to find my FIRST real-world tech job. In contrast, I have a very solid, reasonably-paying position where I am respected for my work, and 4-5 years of experience to boot.
Don't expect to sleep more than 6-7 hours a night, don't expect to be able to squander more than one evening out of 7, and don't expect everyone else to understand why you love this type of torture, but it's fun in its own way I think.
It's very good experience just to make it work, plus the education...go for it!
Why don't you go into management? That way if you ever get some degenerative brain disease, you will get promoted and a raise to boot.
You could work the tails off your subordinates, play some golf, buy a boat, and talk on your cell phone to other managers urging them to "do whatever it takes" to make the unreasonable deadlines.
Actually, that's not really true. There is no difference between a CUP of coffee and a SHOT of espresso, but I assure you there is a difference between a CUP of each!!
We have moved from JRun to Tomcat as well. JRun left a lot to be desired, and caused us a lot of problems. Moving to Tomcat was definitely the way to go.
Not to mention the fact that JRun support was poor and licensing fees were rising for a product that was not even fulfilling our needs.
Microsoft probably loves the idea, but I cringe at the statement about "taxpayer dollars".
If an Open Source option is available, tax money would be better spent using/improving those products, that benefit all, instead of a single organization declared to be a monopoly by the U.S. DOJ.
You know the publishing companies will not be thrilled about this. They've already mentioned "cracking down" on libraries that allow multiple people to read the same book without paying. We wouldn't want to consider the fact that used/loaned books can contribute greatly to the education of less wealthy folks that can't afford to purchase all the books they'd like to read.
I think they'll try to impose some kind of tax or other legal law about transfer of ownership.
OK, the "old" (former Solaris 8) licensing scheme didn't seem to make sense to me either. They allowed free download for use on systems up to 8 (!!!) processors. I figure a company that purchases a system with 8 CPU capacity can afford a maintenance contract or at least to purchase the OS.
I, on the other hand, that just have an Ultra 5 and old SS10 at home...there is NO WAY I'm going to pay for a "two processor" license for my SS10. Time to goto Linux again on that system. Decreasing their free license from 8 CPUs to 2 or 4 would have made sense, but SINGLE CPU?
Sun, you guys are like women...we love you to death, but you DRIVE US CRAZY!!!!
Open Source and GPL software advocates are very leery of anything that hints of not properly observing the software license. Lindows is a new player in this field, and they need to watch their step here, so they don't piss off possible advocates. JMHO Robertson is not Stallman or even a highly recognized executive. I think he's treading on thin ice.
I know they can upgrade after shipping the OS release, but I just don't see the need to rush a new rev out the door with some of these projects on the cusp of being released. One other poster's mention of gcc version was good. Very valid point!
I think this is a good move, releasing a point release instead of a full.0 version. Save 8.0 for: -- Mozilla 1.x -- KDE 3.0 -- GNOME 2.0 as well as some other nice software sets getting ready to release major versions.
I'm not about to try 7.3 in beta. I'm happy enough with Slackware 8.0 at present. Plus, Slackware AND Mandrake are already at 8.0 or higher versions...doesn't that mean it's better?:)
It's been said here before that Sun would be just like Microsoft if they could. As much as I like Sun, I wouldn't trust them with Microsoft's amount of power, either.
I strongly think they need to offer a free version of StarOffice for general use. OpenOffice.org is good (that's what I use), but if they want to make any inroad at all on MS Office, they shouldn't force people to pay for the "official" StarOffice version. There are all sorts of ways they could charge for corporate use, license portions of the product separately, and so forth.
The ideal would be to have completely standards-based file formats. The office suite monopoly needs to stop. I wouldn't accept Sun as a substitute for Microsoft.
I guess I'll have to do all my personal surfing on a web-enabled PDA.
By the time they roll out something this tight to the general corporations, we'll use personal wireless access to bypass the corporate network. I'll be content anyway, since I just need my stock quotes and the odd personal email.:)
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If you drive a car-car I'll tax the street
If you try to sit-sit I'll tax your seat
If you get too cold I'll tax the heat
If you take a walk I'll tax your feet
Tax man
Honestly, folks, this is not an original attempt at problem solving here. This is the kind of thing that ordinary ninnies in the U.S. legislature think up.
If you haven't figured it out already, you have just been handed the chance to clobber TurboTax. This is like Coke adding broccoli flavoring to their cola. Offer TaxCut at 50% off to everyone that used TurboTax last year.
Also make sure you don't do the same as Intuit, and you just might be able to corner the tax software market.
I used it trying to work around the lack of fork() in Win32. Perl's emulation didn't quite cut it. I was trying to watch a process through CGI without timing out the page, and was having all sorts of fun problems and wasting a lot of time.
I didn't know about POE until Randal Schwartz recommended it (thanks Randal), but it solved my problem and performs quite well. I didn't push it past about 8 simultaneous processes, but it worked very well and seems very stable.
I agree about performance. I signed up for the beta of GNOME 2.0 with Sun (yeah, I got some free stuff for it!) and performance was always significantly slower than CDE. Maybe 5-10 times slower on average when just moving windows, opening new shells, etc.
It was usable, but going back to CDE brought me back to "no waits" for anything.
Oh, I was running on a Blade 1000, dual 750s, 5GB of RAM with virtually no load.
Water DOESN'T conduct electricity in itself.
Generally, water has significant mineral content, which is what is actually conductive.
Remember the experiment in school where you disassociated water with electricity? You added salt or something to the water right? Try doing that same experiment with distilled water...
I don't necessarily agree with this. This is not to say there aren't a lot of dishonest mechanics out there. BUT...
I worked as a professional mechanic for several years, and I was very honest in all of my work. However, a car is like the Windows operating system. If you don't do ANYTHING to it but run it for a year, you need to do SOMETHING. (oil change at least?)
You as the "driver" or (semi)clueless user, might think your car is in "perfect running order" when I might know your model car so well I would bet a week's pay that a certain component will fail before X number of miles.
Personally, I find these "phantom" issues on my own vehicles (and my relatives) and fix them. When I worked as a mechanic, I had customers that understood this and appreciated a proactive maintenance approach. One time a customer asked me to justify why, 2 weeks after a routine maintenance check, one of their headlights went out. The question to me was "why didn't you replace it before it burned completely out?" (I'm not kidding about this)
I never said "oh my gosh, you must replace this or you won't make it home", but I would explain any issues (especially one that weren't obvious) and what I believe should be done but ultimately leave the customer with minimal or no pressure.
Don't discredit solid auto mechanics. If I could make the same money I do now in software if I went back to being a mechanic, I would do it in an instant.
Think of all the uses for that doll next year at Halloween!!! A little desk-sized Halloween decoration!
This is a positive thing, for the reasons RedHat is stating; namely that many users don't want to make a decision between "this one" or "that one". How many times have people whined on /. that Linux will never make it to the desktop because there are too many tweaks things the users need to learn.
This is RedHat's way of making Linux more appealing to the end user. Good for them.
If you don't like it, do what I do and run Slackware (or other distro of choice), but bravo for the RedHat folks. This is a positive step.
I am only a dozen or so weeks away from finally finishing my degree, which I have been working on as I work full time for a little over four years. I work full time (45-50 hours a week) during the day and study at night. My employer has a decent tuition reimbursement plan, which I have taken full advantage of.
:) I average 35 hours of study per week, which I'm motivated to do, because it costs $275-300 per week to be in school. (company pays approx. 35% of that)
Holding a steady girlfriend is difficult to impossible, but school ranks higher on my priority list, so they have to understand that. I now have 5 years of real-world experience in tech, along with the degree, and because I have a carefully balanced schedule, my co-workers and boss get the impression that I'm super-organized.
It IS a big commitment, but I wasn't willing to sacrifice the experience while I sat on campus somewhere making little or no money. Now, I would not want to be graduating and trying to find my FIRST real-world tech job. In contrast, I have a very solid, reasonably-paying position where I am respected for my work, and 4-5 years of experience to boot.
Don't expect to sleep more than 6-7 hours a night, don't expect to be able to squander more than one evening out of 7, and don't expect everyone else to understand why you love this type of torture, but it's fun in its own way I think.
It's very good experience just to make it work, plus the education...go for it!
That's larger than a full install of Windows 9x!!!!
Why don't you go into management? That way if you ever get some degenerative brain disease, you will get promoted and a raise to boot.
You could work the tails off your subordinates, play some golf, buy a boat, and talk on your cell phone to other managers urging them to "do whatever it takes" to make the unreasonable deadlines.
Actually, that's not really true. There is no difference between a CUP of coffee and a SHOT of espresso, but I assure you there is a difference between a CUP of each!!
We have moved from JRun to Tomcat as well.
JRun left a lot to be desired, and caused us a lot of problems. Moving to Tomcat was definitely the way to go.
Not to mention the fact that JRun support was poor and licensing fees were rising for a product that was not even fulfilling our needs.
WHAT?!!! We're supposed to get paid for this job???!!!
I guess I'll just have to go back to downloading all my music from work!
Microsoft probably loves the idea, but I cringe at the statement about "taxpayer dollars".
If an Open Source option is available, tax money would be better spent using/improving those products, that benefit all, instead of a single organization declared to be a monopoly by the U.S. DOJ.
You know the publishing companies will not be thrilled about this. They've already mentioned "cracking down" on libraries that allow multiple people to read the same book without paying.
We wouldn't want to consider the fact that used/loaned books can contribute greatly to the education of less wealthy folks that can't afford to purchase all the books they'd like to read.
I think they'll try to impose some kind of tax or other legal law about transfer of ownership.
We'll see...
OK, the "old" (former Solaris 8) licensing scheme didn't seem to make sense to me either. They allowed free download for use on systems up to 8 (!!!) processors. I figure a company that purchases a system with 8 CPU capacity can afford a maintenance contract or at least to purchase the OS.
I, on the other hand, that just have an Ultra 5 and old SS10 at home...there is NO WAY I'm going to pay for a "two processor" license for my SS10. Time to goto Linux again on that system.
Decreasing their free license from 8 CPUs to 2 or 4 would have made sense, but SINGLE CPU?
Sun, you guys are like women...we love you to death, but you DRIVE US CRAZY!!!!
Sorry, just couldn't resist. :)
Open Source and GPL software advocates are very leery of anything that hints of not properly observing the software license. Lindows is a new player in this field, and they need to watch their step here, so they don't piss off possible advocates. JMHO
Robertson is not Stallman or even a highly recognized executive. I think he's treading on thin ice.
Are you forgetting Internet Explorer??
rc != released version
I know they can upgrade after shipping the OS release, but I just don't see the need to rush a new rev out the door with some of these projects on the cusp of being released.
One other poster's mention of gcc version was good. Very valid point!
I think this is a good move, releasing a point release instead of a full .0 version.
:)
Save 8.0 for:
-- Mozilla 1.x
-- KDE 3.0
-- GNOME 2.0
as well as some other nice software sets getting ready to release major versions.
I'm not about to try 7.3 in beta. I'm happy enough with Slackware 8.0 at present. Plus, Slackware AND Mandrake are already at 8.0 or higher versions...doesn't that mean it's better?
It's been said here before that Sun would be just like Microsoft if they could. As much as I like Sun, I wouldn't trust them with Microsoft's amount of power, either.
I strongly think they need to offer a free version of StarOffice for general use. OpenOffice.org is good (that's what I use), but if they want to make any inroad at all on MS Office, they shouldn't force people to pay for the "official" StarOffice version. There are all sorts of ways they could charge for corporate use, license portions of the product separately, and so forth.
The ideal would be to have completely standards-based file formats. The office suite monopoly needs to stop. I wouldn't accept Sun as a substitute for Microsoft.
I guess I'll have to do all my personal surfing on a web-enabled PDA. By the time they roll out something this tight to the general corporations, we'll use personal wireless access to bypass the corporate network. I'll be content anyway, since I just need my stock quotes and the odd personal email. :)