Plus, it is a crime (felony?) for telemarketers to call cell-phones in the USA
And how does that work with local number portability?
How can anyone tell whether a number is a cell or landline if you can move the number between services?
Keep asking.
If there are enough people asking, they do pass it up the food chain.
I have been told that the demand for such a phone has been raised at a Rogers national sales meeting at least once.
The most important thing about art is The Frame. For painting; literally; for other arts: figuratively -- because, without this humble applience, you can't know where The Art stops and the real world begins.
You have to put a 'box' around it because otherwise, what is that shit on the wall
If John Cage, for instance, says, "I'm putting a contact microphone on my throat, and I'm going to drink carrot juice, and that's my composition" then his gurgling qualifies as his composition because he put a frame around it and said so. "Take it or leave it, I now will this to be music." After that it's a matter of taste. Without the frame-as-announced, it's just a guy swallowing carrot juice.
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And a slightly more cynical quote, also from FZ: Art is making something out of nothing and selling it.
Someone else has already mentioned that some places don't allow camera phones (or any devices that can take pictures) so I won't dwell on that.
My take on wanting a "just a phone" phone, is to have less circuitry drawing power, and to allow the designers to focus on solid RF and audio performance, and not waste R&D resources on shoehorning all the other crap into the same size package.
The other 'feature' I want to see is a ruggedized phone. Something a construction worker can use at work, and not have to worry about getting trashed in the first week.
Think about it. How can the cell companies improve their revenue stream if you are recieving broadcast video?
Despite what the press releases say, *all* new features are designed to increase the cell providers ARPU*
If you believe that video to your handset, downloading ringtones, camera phones, and all the other bells and whisthle are some sort of gift from the cell phone gods, then you're likely to believe anything a marketeer tells tou.
*ARPU = Average Revenue Per Unit(subscriber)
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4) Most of the "low-end therefore simple" phones have crappy RF and audio quality. And aren't expecially durable.
I wonder which cell phone provider came up with this idea.
Some cell companies charge as much as $0.15 per SMS message.
If this thing catches on, they'll be rolling in cash (even more than they are now).
-we need to improve the bottom line by offshoring more engineering/tech jobs. -move more scholarships to sports programs. -increase school class size to make schools more efficient. -increase corperate and religious involvement in school curricuum.
Here in Winnipeg the city budgets 1.1 Million per year just to patch potholes caused by freeze/thaw in the concrete road surface*. That is just for patching, not replacing or doing proper repairs to the road.
* The temperature is only one contributing factor, the other is the soil conditions... There's nothing "solid" under the roads. It's all a silt-clay material under the surface. To build a road they dig down as much as 12 feet, and fill it with crushed rock, in thin compacted layers. Even with that, the roads still shift and crack within a couple of years.
Give me a good, solid, long lasting phone with an easy to use interface
And rugged. Anything portable is going to get dropped once in a while.
I have been searching for a phone rugged enough to survive in a tradesman's hands for more than a few months. Phones don't like falling out of a pocket, when the pocket is at the top of a ladder.
Ericsson used to have one ruggedized phone that was amazingly hard to kill. And water resistant as well. Unfortunately they were hideously expensive, and sales didn't match customer demand, or manufacturer's expectations.
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I don't want their calls anyway!
Clearly. I don't think anyone does.
However, if LNP gives them an excuse to say "oops, we didn't know" and thus not get fined, I care.
According to the all knowing Google:
And how does that work with local number portability? How can anyone tell whether a number is a cell or landline if you can move the number between services?
Apparently they aren't the only ones.
Some artists are trying to prove the point.
Really, are dead, decaying rabbit corpses art? Apparently so.
Keep asking. If there are enough people asking, they do pass it up the food chain. I have been told that the demand for such a phone has been raised at a Rogers national sales meeting at least once.
From "The Real Frank Zappa Book":
The most important thing about art is The Frame. For painting; literally; for other arts: figuratively -- because, without this humble applience, you can't know where The Art stops and the real world begins.
You have to put a 'box' around it because otherwise, what is that shit on the wall
If John Cage, for instance, says, "I'm putting a contact microphone on my throat, and I'm going to drink carrot juice, and that's my composition" then his gurgling qualifies as his composition because he put a frame around it and said so. "Take it or leave it, I now will this to be music." After that it's a matter of taste. Without the frame-as-announced, it's just a guy swallowing carrot juice.
-----
And a slightly more cynical quote, also from FZ:
Art is making something out of nothing and selling it.
Someone else has already mentioned that some places don't allow camera phones (or any devices that can take pictures) so I won't dwell on that.
My take on wanting a "just a phone" phone, is to have less circuitry drawing power, and to allow the designers to focus on solid RF and audio performance, and not waste R&D resources on shoehorning all the other crap into the same size package.
The other 'feature' I want to see is a ruggedized phone. Something a construction worker can use at work, and not have to worry about getting trashed in the first week.
And, since CVS appears to be a USA only chain, is anyone else in the rest of the world selling this type of camera?
Well, technically, it was an "Illudium Q36 explosive space modulator" not a beam.
But the fact that I looked that up during this thread, means it counts.
Is RIM a target because of their popularity?
I suspect they became more of a target as their "ability to pay" increased.
What they mean is that they have higher priority areas to spend their capital budget in at the moment.
It can cost in the range of $300000-$500000 to build a cell site. How many $50/month, unlimited airtime customers does it take to pay for that?
They need to be convinced about the ROI before they start building.
Of course you really have to work in a place like that to fully appreciate how terribly incompetent such organizations are
Actually, as a customer I get a pretty good sense of it too.
Since we're on the subject of podcasting...
/. masses?
What is the preferred podcast client of the
Think about it. How can the cell companies improve their revenue stream if you are recieving broadcast video?
Despite what the press releases say, *all* new features are designed to increase the cell providers ARPU*
If you believe that video to your handset, downloading ringtones, camera phones, and all the other bells and whisthle are some sort of gift from the cell phone gods, then you're likely to believe anything a marketeer tells tou.
*ARPU = Average Revenue Per Unit(subscriber)
4) Most of the "low-end therefore simple" phones have crappy RF and audio quality. And aren't expecially durable.
I wonder which cell phone provider came up with this idea.
Some cell companies charge as much as $0.15 per SMS message.
If this thing catches on, they'll be rolling in cash (even more than they are now).
I bet the Japanese can't deliver pizza to Buttfsck, Idaho faster than the local Domino's can, though. :)
I dunno, they're pretty motivated.
Their Guarantee:
Guaranteed delivery in 30 minutes or less, or we commit Seppuku!
Let's see dominos beat that!
High-speed Pizza delivery
Watch it, the Japaneese are moving into that field. And they have a pretty hard to beat guarantee.
...whose only prior qualification was being a spoiled rich kid and lawyer.
And that makes him different from most politicians in most countries how?
Ok, then how about Canada?
Or any other non-USA country.
-move more scholarships to sports programs.
-increase school class size to make schools more efficient.
-increase corperate and religious involvement in school curricuum.
oh, wait...
Especially the roads.
Here in Winnipeg the city budgets 1.1 Million per year just to patch potholes caused by freeze/thaw in the concrete road surface*. That is just for patching, not replacing or doing proper repairs to the road.
* The temperature is only one contributing factor, the other is the soil conditions... There's nothing "solid" under the roads. It's all a silt-clay material under the surface. To build a road they dig down as much as 12 feet, and fill it with crushed rock, in thin compacted layers. Even with that, the roads still shift and crack within a couple of years.
I thought me and Grub were about it.
yeah, yeah, -1 offtopic. I know.
BUT...
DVRs (like Tivo, Replay, etc)may be commonly available where you live, but the aren't everywhere.
Here in Canada, the options for off-the-shelf DVR are:
1) whatever your cable company/satellite proivider will provide.
2) a set-top DVD recorder
3) buy a used Tivo/Replay box on E-bay and hack it
4) there is no 4
Give me a good, solid, long lasting phone with an easy to use interface
And rugged. Anything portable is going to get dropped once in a while.
I have been searching for a phone rugged enough to survive in a tradesman's hands for more than a few months. Phones don't like falling out of a pocket, when the pocket is at the top of a ladder.
Ericsson used to have one ruggedized phone that was amazingly hard to kill. And water resistant as well. Unfortunately they were hideously expensive, and sales didn't match customer demand, or manufacturer's expectations.