You compare apples to oranges. IBM is complaining about Sun and OpenOffice. Sun has opened sourced a lot of S/W and continues to do so. I don't think Eclipse and Cloudscape make IBM an open source hero. IMO, Eclipse, while very nice, original intent by IBM, was to try and wrestle control of Java from Sun. I do envy the IBM marketing team though:-) Did you know they spent over $1B dollars on Linux development!
That all being said, IBM does contribute a lot to open software. But them complaining about openoffice is a joke. I find it hipacriticle that IBM complains about openoffice, but then keeps it's S/W (related to the subject) closed and proprietary. Close file formats, close prototcols. Lock in the customer..
I've stated my conflict, how about you state yours (an obvious lotus notes fan from your previous posts:-) )
This always makes me angry when I see IBM listed with companies like RedHat. When IBM opens up some of their proprietary applications (e.g. Lotus Notes), then they can start be included in conversations like this.. Why do people always give them a free ride? They are still the proprietary, lock in as a strategy, company. They spens a lot more money on proprietary software than open source software..
disclaimer, I work for Sun (but I have always felt this way. no, really:-))
>Just look at the lengthy chase high-speed chase scene >with the son in The Incredibles: it was shot from the >vidoegame camera angle, I felt like I was watching >someone play the game rather than a movie.
I guess you missed the not so subtle spoof on the star wars chase there;-)
Actually, the earth's climate is a control system. There are various ways control systems can become unstable. Global warming is a bad term. It should really be climate instability.. We should expect to see record hot and cold years more frequently over the next couple hundred years...
Marketing at it's best. Sounds like the hype surrounding itanium.
I'll believe it when I can play one in my hands. If they even come close to the hype, how much more expensive is it to procude a game that looks like a movie. How many game companies will have the talent and money to do this. How many of these games will actually have good gameplay???
You heard it here first, cell-tanic. It's what killed the playstation.:-)
P.S. I don't own a new xbox either. I'll stick my my old console until there are some compelling games to play then decide what to buy... Unfortunately, I'm thinking it's not going to be playstation 3:-(
I've been holding off my next Laptop purchase until I saw what Intel based system Apple came up with. One interesting thing of note, they don't (as of 5 minutes ago) list batttery life in the specs. That kind of scares me.... I can't believe they would forget that in a laptop spec.
Unless battery liife is really bad, I'm going to pull the trigger once someone manages to multi-boot this baby. This is the ultimate developers machine until the H/W virtualization stuff comes out..
Yeah right. IBM has opensourced a whole bunch of their products (DB2, lotus notes, rational, websphere). Nor do they use lock in strategies in their software or services;-).
With the $1 billion dollars they supposedly invested in Linux development a year or two ago, they could have funded RedHat for ~ 7 years..
IBM is not the good guy. IMO, they are the #2 bad guy. They just spend tons of $$ on marketing to make them sound good.B ut when you look through the fluff they throw out there, very little of their money is spent on helping open source S/W.
Disclaimer, I work at Sun. But I have had my opinion of IBM since long before that.
I personally don't care about watching a video on the iPod screen. I have my iPod in a dock hooked up to my stereo. With the new video iPod and new dock/remote, I could watch movies, tv shows, etc on my TV (video supplied by me, not iTunes:-))
So who cares how it looks on the iPod screen, how does it look on a non HD TV, how easy is it to navigate through video selections with the remote, etc, etc.
IMO, that's what will make or break the video part of the iPod. Of course, you buy an new iPod, you get the video feature for free. So why are folks complaining so much???
If you have something that you don't want to share, you don't have to submit it.:-)
You could replace the offending data with garbage, or try to reproduce the problem from a new document. But the point he was trying to make it that you can help the problem by submitting docuements which have formating problems. i.e. don't complain, help. You don't have to write code to contribute to an open source effort...
Certainly not going to kill MS Office. But hopefully it will chip away a little. If it keeps the MS Office market from growing, and even makes it shrink a little, I think that's a big success in itself. MS is having a hard time finding places to grow their company (why there's going to be so many versions of Vista:-) ). Hell, If it keeps some folks from upgrading to the next version of office, that's a big plus in my book.
I think the biggest mistake os StarOffice/OpenOffice is not supporting Mac OS X out of the box. A package that is supported on Windows, Mac OS X, Linux, and Solaris (I work for Sun:-) ) is what is really needed to be successful in the long run. PDF would have never had made it if it didn't do that...
A little off subject, but a subtle difference that folks don't usually pick up. It's not really a "for-profit" motivation. "for-growth" (with the promise of profit) is what motivates public corportations. The stock market rewards growth, not profit... e.g. Microsoft can make billions of $$ in profit in a year, but investors won't be happy if it's not a decent % more than last years billions of $$ in profit.
Or maybe the biggest problem is loosing control of music distribution. If they can't control the music distribution, why wouldn't artist slowly migrate to publishing their own music through itunes and cutting out the record labels?
PowerPC may be big for the next generation consoles, but that means nothing for the generation after that. Look what happened to the MIPS architecture which was used in some game consoles previously.. Look how easily Microsoft switch from intel x86 to PowerPC...
IBM loosing Apple is more of a marketing shot to IBM that a $$ one. Now IBM is the only major company producing PowerPC based server/workstations. Not a good sign for the power architecture long term.
Your right! OpenSolaris, Apache, Firefox/ Thunderbird/ Mozilla. They all have the bad open source licenses..
When they were talking about going down to 4 open source licenses, I fired an e-mail off asking if they would keep all company, organization, product, group, etc. names off the license. Specifically, I wanted to know if the GNU folks had to have GNU in the license name. You can guess what the response was... Sometimes I wonder if the motive is the G or the PL for some of the folks.
I like the GPL. But is an open source license which is good some some things. It's not the answer for everything. I personally would use it for a project starting from scratch. IMO, not as useful for an established source base.
The right question, Will Microsoft's Next-Gen console(s) kill off the PC?
Microsoft can't enter the PC H/W buisness w/ the whole Monopoly thing going for/against them. Hmm, but they have a game console. Put a DVI connector for High Def TV's. Hey, I can now attach a LCD monitor to it. Get a USB mouse and keyboard, I now have a WinPPC computer.
Put a little more S/W, make the CPU a little more general purpose, and Microsoft controls the the whole thing. Doesn't have an x86 in there, so it's not a PC, it's a "game console". A lot cheaper than a PC too since it's subsidized by "game" sales.. Maybe all software written for the "game console" would have to pay Microsoft for each unit sold?
They didn't get away with it. They were found guilty by the US legal system. However, the punishment for a case this big is driven by the US political system. This is the part which failed badly.
If Microsoft will only give a Windows license to vendors who only ship the PC so that it can only boot Windows, they can stop other OS being installed on those PCs. They can do this under the cover of "it's to prevent illegal copies of Windows".
Maybe I'm wrong and Microsoft would never do something this evil;-)
Microsoft requires all PC sold with Windows XYZ to use a Trusted Boot ROM. The Trusted Boot ROM verifies the Windows license is valid before booting. Whoops, you mean your PC won't boot Linux because it doesn't have a valid Windows license. What a unforseen side effect!
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That all being said, IBM does contribute a lot to open software. But them complaining about openoffice is a joke. I find it hipacriticle that IBM complains about openoffice, but then keeps it's S/W (related to the subject) closed and proprietary. Close file formats, close prototcols. Lock in the customer..
I've stated my conflict, how about you state yours (an obvious lotus notes fan from your previous posts
disclaimer, I work for Sun (but I have always felt this way. no, really
You clearly do not understand lawyers. "efficiently as possible" is not in their vocabulary ;-)
>with the son in The Incredibles: it was shot from the
>vidoegame camera angle, I felt like I was watching
>someone play the game rather than a movie.
I guess you missed the not so subtle spoof on the star wars chase there
Actually, the earth's climate is a control system. There are various ways control systems can become unstable. Global warming is a bad term. It should really be climate instability.. We should expect to see record hot and cold years more frequently over the next couple hundred years...
I'll believe it when I can play one in my hands. If they even come close to the hype, how much more expensive is it to procude a game that looks like a movie. How many game companies will have the talent and money to do this. How many of these games will actually have good gameplay???
You heard it here first, cell-tanic. It's what killed the playstation.
P.S. I don't own a new xbox either. I'll stick my my old console until there are some compelling games to play then decide what to buy... Unfortunately, I'm thinking it's not going to be playstation 3
Intel based system Apple came up with. One interesting thing of
note, they don't (as of 5 minutes ago) list batttery life in the
specs. That kind of scares me.... I can't believe they would forget
that in a laptop spec.
Unless battery liife is really bad, I'm going to pull the trigger
once someone manages to multi-boot this baby. This is the ultimate
developers machine until the H/W virtualization stuff comes out..
With the $1 billion dollars they supposedly invested in Linux development a year or two ago, they could have funded RedHat for ~ 7 years..
IBM is not the good guy. IMO, they are the #2 bad guy. They just spend tons of $$ on marketing to make them sound good.B ut when you look through the fluff they throw out there, very little of their money is spent on helping open source S/W.
Disclaimer, I work at Sun. But I have had my opinion of IBM since long before that.
MRJ
Yes. Why do you think VMWare released the free player? Competition from Xen.. ;-)
So who cares how it looks on the iPod screen, how does it look on a non HD TV, how easy is it to navigate through video selections with the remote, etc, etc.
IMO, that's what will make or break the video part of the iPod. Of course, you buy an new iPod, you get the video feature for free. So why are folks complaining so much???
You mean Intels adva.... Oh wait. never mind...
If you have something that you don't want to share, you don't have to submit it.
You could replace the offending data with garbage, or try to reproduce the problem from a new document. But the point he was trying to make it that you can help the problem by submitting docuements which have formating problems. i.e. don't complain, help. You don't have to write code to contribute to an open source effort...
I think the biggest mistake os StarOffice/OpenOffice is not supporting Mac OS X out of the box. A package that is supported on Windows, Mac OS X, Linux, and Solaris (I work for Sun
A little off subject, but a subtle difference that folks don't usually pick up. It's not really a "for-profit" motivation. "for-growth" (with the promise of profit) is what motivates public corportations. The stock market rewards growth, not profit... e.g. Microsoft can make billions of $$ in profit in a year, but investors won't be happy if it's not a decent % more than last years billions of $$ in profit.
Or maybe the biggest problem is loosing control of music distribution. If they can't control the music distribution, why wouldn't artist slowly migrate to publishing their own music through itunes and cutting out the record labels?
However, what they are missing is how bad some of the other IBM configs are. If you are going to talk about Solaris on SPARC, why not AIX on POWER?
If they had compared Windows, Linux, Solaris, and BSD(s), all on same x86 box, that would have been a worthwhile study...
What about AIX on Power?
What about Linux on Power?
What about Linux on IBMs mainframe?
What about Solaris 10 on x86?
What about the various BSD's on x86?
IBM loosing Apple is more of a marketing shot to IBM that a $$ one. Now IBM is the only major company producing PowerPC based server/workstations. Not a good sign for the power architecture long term.
I agree w/ parent. I also think this is more of a reaction to apple dropping them than anything else...
http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html
What I should have typed was would they support not have GNU in the nextgen license name i.e. "GNU General Public License".
When they were talking about going down to 4 open source licenses, I fired an e-mail off asking if they would keep all company, organization, product, group, etc. names off the license. Specifically, I wanted to know if the GNU folks had to have GNU in the license name. You can guess what the response was... Sometimes I wonder if the motive is the G or the PL for some of the folks.
I like the GPL. But is an open source license which is good some some things. It's not the answer for everything. I personally would use it for a project starting from scratch. IMO, not as useful for an established source base.
disclaimer: I work for Sun.
Microsoft can't enter the PC H/W buisness w/ the whole Monopoly thing going for/against them. Hmm, but they have a game console. Put a DVI connector for High Def TV's. Hey, I can now attach a LCD monitor to it. Get a USB mouse and keyboard, I now have a WinPPC computer.
Put a little more S/W, make the CPU a little more general purpose, and Microsoft controls the the whole thing. Doesn't have an x86 in there, so it's not a PC, it's a "game console". A lot cheaper than a PC too since it's subsidized by "game" sales.. Maybe all software written for the "game console" would have to pay Microsoft for each unit sold?
Crazy, maybe? It is Microsoft though....
MRJ
They didn't get away with it. They were found guilty by the US legal system. However, the punishment for a case this big is driven by the US political system. This is the part which failed badly.
The point I was trying to make was this.
If Microsoft will only give a Windows license to vendors who only ship the PC so that it can only boot Windows, they can stop other OS being installed on those PCs. They can do this under the cover of "it's to prevent illegal copies of Windows".
Maybe I'm wrong and Microsoft would never do something this evil ;-)
Microsoft requires all PC sold with Windows XYZ to use a Trusted Boot ROM. The Trusted Boot ROM verifies the Windows license is valid before booting. Whoops, you mean your PC won't boot Linux because it doesn't have a valid Windows license. What a unforseen side effect!