Ah, but it will also lead to polygamy, so those people won't have to divorce their heterosexual spouses. They can just bring the sheep and hedgehogs into the existing marriage.
The 'child' is a primordial dwarf. Her symptoms fit to the last detail.
This story has done time on Digg and Fark already, probably several other sites as well, and it seems everywhere large numbers of non-doctors can use Google to compare her symptoms to a RARE but known medical condition. The poor kid's doctors either don't know how to research or are otherwise incompetent.
Or maybe, just a wild thought here, maybe they have a slightly better insight into her symptoms, having actually examined her and seen her test results, and they have already ruled that out for reasons which your cursory diagnosis, based on reading an ABCnews article and several minutes of medical training, missed.
Of course below the comment you link to is a link to the photo which it turns out is not 500 pixels wide, a number apparently spontaneously generated between someones buttocks.
The things we argue about tend to be very very simple. It is the application to the real world that gets very very complex.
Take abortion for example. The real question is "When do we get a soul?"
We get souls? I missed the part where that was proven. Actually first you have to define what a soul is before you try arguing if and when we get issued one. And how does the moment of soul gifting alone define the issue? I think what you mean is if you want to oversimplify to make your own argument you can. Which means you don't disagree with TFA at all.
There is a significant difference in what Google was doing with books, where its stated purpose was to provide excerpts...
In the final confrontation with the alleged plagiarist the teacher would probably have to have the original work in hand.
So... Google provides only an excerpt but Turnitin gives the whole work? That would be a significant difference. How else does the teacher get their hands on the evidence?
The real important difference is Google is doing this with books whose rights are controlled by major publishers and their lawyers, not students.
You cannot have two people responsible for the actions of one. Either the "inciter" is responsible, or we assume the "do-er" to be grown up enough to know what he is doing, and as such responsible. I can understand why one would feel that it is immoral to incite someone to commit a crime (esp. if it is murder), but still, it seems illogical to me that two people should be responsible for one crime (if they were not both performing it).*
So if I offer to pay you $5000 to kill my wife and you do... am I responsible or are you? There could be money in it if you get the answer right.
That's odd, because to me the modern music doesn't sound that different from what was playing in the late 90's, which is why I tend to think of it as crap. If it sounds like things I've already listened to it's not liable to make an impression on me. I'm kind of disappointed that there isn't something which has 'evolved' enough to make me want to shake my fist and tell those damn kids to turn their so-called music down.
People hate facing up to the fact that we're alone. But it just seems to be the fact of the matter.
Following that logic, if there was another civilization somewhere in the galaxy, they would likewise argue that clearly they are alone in the universe since they have seen no sign of us. It then follows logically that there is obviously no intelligent life in the universe.
Of course Leviticus is also pretty clear on several other offenses that should lead to the death penalty.
Sins such as talking back to your parents:
20:9 "For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him."
Adultery:
20:10 "And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death."
Bestiality:
20:15 "And if a man lie with a beast, he shall surely be put to death: and ye shall slay the beast."
20:16 "And if a woman approach unto any beast, and lie down thereto, thou shalt kill the woman, and the beast: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."
(Note that the animal has to die too. I figure if I bonk the neighbours sheep it probably wasn't because the foul beast seduced me, but hey god knows better, who am I to argue.)
Those darn witches:
20:27 "A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them."
Honourable mention for things not requiring death:
Sleeping with a woman during her period:
20:18 "And if a man shall lie with a woman having her sickness, and shall uncover her nakedness; he hath discovered her fountain, and she hath uncovered the fountain of her blood: and both of them shall be cut off from among their people."
(Only worth a good strict banishment apparently.)
Eating unclean food:
20:25 "Ye shall therefore put difference between clean beasts and unclean, and between unclean fowls and clean: and ye shall not make your souls abominable by beast, or by fowl, or by any manner of living thing that creepeth on the ground, which I have separated from you as unclean."
(Oops, no lobster or gay sex. That Leviticus takes away all the fun. Of course Paul took that away right? Interesting that one guy admitedly just giving his opinion trumps gods.)
Worth noting is that there is no mention of women having sex with other women. But then most guys like to watch a little hot lesbian action.
You forgot to mention that one of the best ways to convince yourself that you are not 'week'(sic) is to go around pointing out to other people that they are. The easiest way to feel better about yourself is to cut others down.
Just like I will point out that you are not smart because you can't spell. Makes me feel better than you. Clearly pointing out this weak.. er weekness of yours will no doubt encourage you to do something about it.
Buddy, you are full of shit. I just moved out of Ontario. I wasn't required to pay OHIP 'all benefits back with adminstrative overhead'. In fact I was covered for 3 months after moving.
For someone that claims to be a former Canadian you have some rather typical American misconceptions about Canada.
Oh and I loved the bit about tipping the Canadian doctor, but you forgot to say how he looked at it and said, "$100 dollars American? Now I can retire!!"
You have to realize that this is just a proof of concept. Next will come full scale models. Eventually the ability to create bipedal robots will allow them to create giant warrior robots which will be piloted by japanese kids to defend the earth from aliens.. or take it over.
Yes that was a rather simple flippant comment. However the point made before about competative sports was not.
Simple observation of the behavior of amateur and professional atheletes suggests to me that perhaps further studies should be done to determine if there is a causal link between sports, especially contact sports and violent behaviour.
Violence is not just condoned in some sports but is often actively encouraged, even outside the degree of roughness that the rules allow. What's a hockey game without a few fists flying. Hell even baseball players will get into it. This kind of thing would get me arrested anywhere else, but in the virtual world of these 'games' it is fine. While I may occasionally want to punch someone at work, it's been a long time since the last office brawl had to be broken up.
So how about a study to see if kids in competative sports show any 2% or so increase in aggessive behavior outside of the game. If they do than maybe some should be 'adults only'.
Not a bad description. However you still fall back on disturbance from the measurement as the reason for the loss of the wave.
> The reason for that is understandable; when you measure which slit your object went through, you change its path. Even bouncing a photon or an electron off an atom is enough an energy transfer to ruin the interference pattern
I would love to see links for this experiments allowing for inderect measurement which get results contrary to the expectations of Quantum Mechanics. (No seriously if you have some I'd like to know)
For example experiments have been performed using a down-converter to create two entangled photons which are then passed through two seperate double slit setups. Interference patterns are created at both sets. But if detectors are used on one set to detrermine the path the photon takes, the wave collapses at both even though nothing intrusive has happened to the other photon and its path can only be inferred with no direct measurement.
Or the concept of a 'Quantum Eraser', where the directional information is determined, but then 'erased' before the final measurements are taken. The interference patterns still form as long as the information is lost.
And if your concept that we want things to be random and chaotic is true, then why did so many resist the idea of uncertainty. Even the major contributors to quantum mechanics admited that they hated that aspect of it because it goes against our ingrained perception of what is real.
Ok, nice rant. Not terribly informative or informed, but definitly a rant.
First off, why the assumption that people who are suffering from depression don't think. That they are hiding from the big scary reality under their beds.
I can only speak for myself here, unlike some of you who have the uncanny ability to know what others are thinking, but I do think. I think there for I am... I think you think so I'll give you the benifit of the doubt on the question of existence.
In fact there are times that I seem to think too much. Again I can't speak to what others are thinking, but when I can analize my reasons for doing things and others just shrug when asked why they did something stupid, mean or self-defeating I figure I am thinking as much or more than my generally happy friends and aquaintances.
As for the bit about everyone wanting a pill to fix things, you make it sound like anti-depressants are happy pills. When is the last time some dealer offered you an SSRI on the street? They don't make you happy. They make me fart, but thats not a marketable side-effect
Depression is not 'getting depressed'. I wish I could say I get depressed because that would imply that sometime in my life that I can remember I wasn't depressed. Everyone has shitty days, or weeks. Feeling crappy about crappy things is not depression. It can lead to depression but for most thats a temporary condition. Mom died? Find you're unhappy, moody, lost your appetite and don't want to get out of bed? Yes, you're probably depressed. Yes it will probably go away without medication. Therapy may help, but then again so will time.
However when pleasurable experiences give you no pleasure, when even a minor setback can send you into a mood which is negative completly out of proportion, or a major one can have no effect, when you lack the physical energy and the mental capacity to even seek out pleasure, forget happiness, it is not going to be helped by reading a little Nietzsche (though I must have missed reading his real cheery works.)
The happy pills you speak of don't make me happy. They don't even make me normal, though apparently they do for some people. They do however allow me to function enough to keep a job, go shopping, take care of my kids. This is something that for several years I was incapable of doing.
Anyway, as for your great advice, I did all that. In my teens. Didn't work. 20 years later I'm still depressed. But thanks for playing.
> E-mails are not like letters. Letters have a physical component. E-mails have a physical component only if they are downloaded to a disk
Just curious.. but how can Yahoo have these emails unless they physically exist on Yahoo's servers, which from my experience usually exist on disk.
So if they would exist if they were on my computer, and they would exist if I put them on a floppy or cd-rom, I can't see why they don't exist on Yahoo's storage medium.
Or is the suggestion that Yahoo's copy was given to them rather than stored with them?
As for the privacy right of others, that doesn't come into play. They sent the email, and as you pointed out, if they sent it to me at work my employer can read it without worrying about the privacy of my mom, my mistress or my gay lover or whoever else might be emailing me.
Here's a question. If this was a PO box, could the estate request access to it, even if they didn't have the key? I'm guessing yes.
Basically it doesn't come down to a privacy issue at all. Dead=No privacy. It comes down to whether the terms of service contract trumps the executors access to the deceased's estate. Dunno. Ask a lawyer. Or rather I guess they'll ask a judge.
And personally, while I'm not thrilled that my mom may see my collection of.. um artistic expressions of human beauty if I snuff it today, I'd rather have a relative read my stuff when I'm dead than have the email provider hand it over to the cops while I'm alive.. but hey thats just me.
The implecation is that your employer, after he fires you, could then logically claim that you were in violation of the contract which authorized you to connect to the internet in the first place using his network.
Therefore you obviously hacked the network. No wonder he fired you. You deserve jail time.
Technically the law states that only beverages which are coffee or kola based can have extra caffeine added. This usually means brown drinks... but not always as I seem to remember some truly disgusting blue pepsi or something.
If I decide I don't like the policies of Norway,...it's their fault if I fly a plane-load of people into one of their office buildings?...if I don't like your policies, I'd be justified in killing the people you live with?
Of course not. Civilized people elect leaders who will send out their own expensive planes and bombs to do it. If you can't afford to buy professional equipment you shouldn't be playing at all.
Hell, why not just bank on them being able to give you a complete brain transplant when they thaw you.
Any lost memories and personality effects will of course be replaced by returning in time to the moment before you died and taking a complete brain wave scan and then writing them to the new brain.
Seriously the thought of having a slushy that used to be my brain 'repaired' strikes me as less than useful, even if it will ever be possible.
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With only 4 differences in the Y chromosome, I'd suggest that if the women did stray it was with an in-law.
Ah, but it will also lead to polygamy, so those people won't have to divorce their heterosexual spouses. They can just bring the sheep and hedgehogs into the existing marriage.
The 'child' is a primordial dwarf. Her symptoms fit to the last detail.
This story has done time on Digg and Fark already, probably several other sites as well, and it seems everywhere large numbers of non-doctors can use Google to compare her symptoms to a RARE but known medical condition. The poor kid's doctors either don't know how to research or are otherwise incompetent.
Or maybe, just a wild thought here, maybe they have a slightly better insight into her symptoms, having actually examined her and seen her test results, and they have already ruled that out for reasons which your cursory diagnosis, based on reading an ABCnews article and several minutes of medical training, missed.
Of course below the comment you link to is a link to the photo which it turns out is not 500 pixels wide, a number apparently spontaneously generated between someones buttocks.
The things we argue about tend to be very very simple. It is the application to the real world that gets very very complex.
Take abortion for example. The real question is "When do we get a soul?"
We get souls? I missed the part where that was proven. Actually first you have to define what a soul is before you try arguing if and when we get issued one. And how does the moment of soul gifting alone define the issue? I think what you mean is if you want to oversimplify to make your own argument you can. Which means you don't disagree with TFA at all.
So... you say the US has more commitment than the UN to free speech, because the UN let someone give a speech, um, freely?
Of course .
Clearly you have never offered to buy one a drink.
There is a significant difference in what Google was doing with books, where its stated purpose was to provide excerpts...
In the final confrontation with the alleged plagiarist the teacher would probably have to have the original work in hand.
So... Google provides only an excerpt but Turnitin gives the whole work? That would be a significant difference. How else does the teacher get their hands on the evidence? The real important difference is Google is doing this with books whose rights are controlled by major publishers and their lawyers, not students.
You cannot have two people responsible for the actions of one. Either the "inciter" is responsible, or we assume the "do-er" to be grown up enough to know what he is doing, and as such responsible. I can understand why one would feel that it is immoral to incite someone to commit a crime (esp. if it is murder), but still, it seems illogical to me that two people should be responsible for one crime (if they were not both performing it).*
So if I offer to pay you $5000 to kill my wife and you do... am I responsible or are you? There could be money in it if you get the answer right.
That's odd, because to me the modern music doesn't sound that different from what was playing in the late 90's, which is why I tend to think of it as crap. If it sounds like things I've already listened to it's not liable to make an impression on me. I'm kind of disappointed that there isn't something which has 'evolved' enough to make me want to shake my fist and tell those damn kids to turn their so-called music down.
People hate facing up to the fact that we're alone. But it just seems to be the fact of the matter.
Following that logic, if there was another civilization somewhere in the galaxy, they would likewise argue that clearly they are alone in the universe since they have seen no sign of us. It then follows logically that there is obviously no intelligent life in the universe.
Of course Leviticus is also pretty clear on several other offenses that should lead to the death penalty.
Sins such as talking back to your parents:
20:9 "For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him."
Adultery:
20:10 "And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death."
Bestiality:
20:15 "And if a man lie with a beast, he shall surely be put to death: and ye shall slay the beast."
20:16 "And if a woman approach unto any beast, and lie down thereto, thou shalt kill the woman, and the beast: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."
(Note that the animal has to die too. I figure if I bonk the neighbours sheep it probably wasn't because the foul beast seduced me, but hey god knows better, who am I to argue.)
Those darn witches:
20:27 "A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them."
Honourable mention for things not requiring death:
Sleeping with a woman during her period:
20:18 "And if a man shall lie with a woman having her sickness, and shall uncover her nakedness; he hath discovered her fountain, and she hath uncovered the fountain of her blood: and both of them shall be cut off from among their people."
(Only worth a good strict banishment apparently.)
Eating unclean food:
20:25 "Ye shall therefore put difference between clean beasts and unclean, and between unclean fowls and clean: and ye shall not make your souls abominable by beast, or by fowl, or by any manner of living thing that creepeth on the ground, which I have separated from you as unclean."
(Oops, no lobster or gay sex. That Leviticus takes away all the fun. Of course Paul took that away right? Interesting that one guy admitedly just giving his opinion trumps gods.)
Worth noting is that there is no mention of women having sex with other women. But then most guys like to watch a little hot lesbian action.
Draw your own conclusions.
You forgot to mention that one of the best ways to convince yourself that you are not 'week'(sic) is to go around pointing out to other people that they are. The easiest way to feel better about yourself is to cut others down.
Just like I will point out that you are not smart because you can't spell. Makes me feel better than you. Clearly pointing out this weak.. er weekness of yours will no doubt encourage you to do something about it.
Buddy, you are full of shit. I just moved out of Ontario. I wasn't required to pay OHIP 'all benefits back with adminstrative overhead'. In fact I was covered for 3 months after moving.
For someone that claims to be a former Canadian you have some rather typical American misconceptions about Canada.
Oh and I loved the bit about tipping the Canadian doctor, but you forgot to say how he looked at it and said, "$100 dollars American? Now I can retire!!"
You have to realize that this is just a proof of concept. Next will come full scale models. Eventually the ability to create bipedal robots will allow them to create giant warrior robots which will be piloted by japanese kids to defend the earth from aliens.. or take it over.
Loads of practical applications in that.
Yes that was a rather simple flippant comment. However the point made before about competative sports was not.
Simple observation of the behavior of amateur and professional atheletes suggests to me that perhaps further studies should be done to determine if there is a causal link between sports, especially contact sports and violent behaviour.
Violence is not just condoned in some sports but is often actively encouraged, even outside the degree of roughness that the rules allow. What's a hockey game without a few fists flying. Hell even baseball players will get into it. This kind of thing would get me arrested anywhere else, but in the virtual world of these 'games' it is fine. While I may occasionally want to punch someone at work, it's been a long time since the last office brawl had to be broken up.
So how about a study to see if kids in competative sports show any 2% or so increase in aggessive behavior outside of the game. If they do than maybe some should be 'adults only'.
Mine smells like hydrogen cyanide. Or does it?
Not a bad description. However you still fall back on disturbance from the measurement as the reason for the loss of the wave.
> The reason for that is understandable; when you measure which slit your object went through, you change its path. Even bouncing a photon or an electron off an atom is enough an energy transfer to ruin the interference patternI would love to see links for this experiments allowing for inderect measurement which get results contrary to the expectations of Quantum Mechanics. (No seriously if you have some I'd like to know)
For example experiments have been performed using a down-converter to create two entangled photons which are then passed through two seperate double slit setups. Interference patterns are created at both sets. But if detectors are used on one set to detrermine the path the photon takes, the wave collapses at both even though nothing intrusive has happened to the other photon and its path can only be inferred with no direct measurement.
Or the concept of a 'Quantum Eraser', where the directional information is determined, but then 'erased' before the final measurements are taken. The interference patterns still form as long as the information is lost.
And if your concept that we want things to be random and chaotic is true, then why did so many resist the idea of uncertainty. Even the major contributors to quantum mechanics admited that they hated that aspect of it because it goes against our ingrained perception of what is real.
Ok, nice rant. Not terribly informative or informed, but definitly a rant.
First off, why the assumption that people who are suffering from depression don't think. That they are hiding from the big scary reality under their beds.
I can only speak for myself here, unlike some of you who have the uncanny ability to know what others are thinking, but I do think. I think there for I am... I think you think so I'll give you the benifit of the doubt on the question of existence.
In fact there are times that I seem to think too much. Again I can't speak to what others are thinking, but when I can analize my reasons for doing things and others just shrug when asked why they did something stupid, mean or self-defeating I figure I am thinking as much or more than my generally happy friends and aquaintances.
As for the bit about everyone wanting a pill to fix things, you make it sound like anti-depressants are happy pills. When is the last time some dealer offered you an SSRI on the street? They don't make you happy. They make me fart, but thats not a marketable side-effect
Depression is not 'getting depressed'. I wish I could say I get depressed because that would imply that sometime in my life that I can remember I wasn't depressed. Everyone has shitty days, or weeks. Feeling crappy about crappy things is not depression. It can lead to depression but for most thats a temporary condition. Mom died? Find you're unhappy, moody, lost your appetite and don't want to get out of bed? Yes, you're probably depressed. Yes it will probably go away without medication. Therapy may help, but then again so will time.
However when pleasurable experiences give you no pleasure, when even a minor setback can send you into a mood which is negative completly out of proportion, or a major one can have no effect, when you lack the physical energy and the mental capacity to even seek out pleasure, forget happiness, it is not going to be helped by reading a little Nietzsche (though I must have missed reading his real cheery works.)
The happy pills you speak of don't make me happy. They don't even make me normal, though apparently they do for some people. They do however allow me to function enough to keep a job, go shopping, take care of my kids. This is something that for several years I was incapable of doing.
Anyway, as for your great advice, I did all that. In my teens. Didn't work. 20 years later I'm still depressed. But thanks for playing.
> E-mails are not like letters. Letters have a physical component. E-mails have a physical component only if they are downloaded to a disk
Just curious.. but how can Yahoo have these emails unless they physically exist on Yahoo's servers, which from my experience usually exist on disk.
So if they would exist if they were on my computer, and they would exist if I put them on a floppy or cd-rom, I can't see why they don't exist on Yahoo's storage medium.
Or is the suggestion that Yahoo's copy was given to them rather than stored with them?
As for the privacy right of others, that doesn't come into play. They sent the email, and as you pointed out, if they sent it to me at work my employer can read it without worrying about the privacy of my mom, my mistress or my gay lover or whoever else might be emailing me.
Here's a question. If this was a PO box, could the estate request access to it, even if they didn't have the key? I'm guessing yes.
Basically it doesn't come down to a privacy issue at all. Dead=No privacy. It comes down to whether the terms of service contract trumps the executors access to the deceased's estate. Dunno. Ask a lawyer. Or rather I guess they'll ask a judge.
And personally, while I'm not thrilled that my mom may see my collection of.. um artistic expressions of human beauty if I snuff it today, I'd rather have a relative read my stuff when I'm dead than have the email provider hand it over to the cops while I'm alive.. but hey thats just me.
Therefore you obviously hacked the network. No wonder he fired you. You deserve jail time.
Technically the law states that only beverages which are coffee or kola based can have extra caffeine added. This usually means brown drinks... but not always as I seem to remember some truly disgusting blue pepsi or something.
No, British billions = American trillions... which makes it even further off.
Of course not. Civilized people elect leaders who will send out their own expensive planes and bombs to do it. If you can't afford to buy professional equipment you shouldn't be playing at all.
Hell, why not just bank on them being able to give you a complete brain transplant when they thaw you.
Any lost memories and personality effects will of course be replaced by returning in time to the moment before you died and taking a complete brain wave scan and then writing them to the new brain.
Seriously the thought of having a slushy that used to be my brain 'repaired' strikes me as less than useful, even if it will ever be possible.