Yeah but they're running Linux, the best support would be for the IT people to find a HOWTO on the 'net or ask on a mailing list rather than calling up SUN. Who knows more about Linux, hundreds of thousands of experienced users or all the employees at SUN combined? Besides the support from SUN could get expensive.
"its cheaper to buy this from us than the cost to develop an equivelant setup
So what would be an equivalent setup? I mean, if they wanted to use Mandrake (free edition) instead, for example. What does the Sun Desktop have which Mandrake doesn't (besides star office).
"they would have to license a JRE to include in their distro"
Don't the Chinese realize how awful this will be to upgrade? Better to go with a debian based system so you can upgrade a system without ever having to touch a installer CD again for years and years (even across new hardware)
A lot of your points are true, but doesn't Lindows support KDE as their standard desktop manager? They are commerical aren't they?
Mandrake is quasi-commerical and they've always favoured KDE over GNOME as well.
" the KDE Project, which is entirely aimed at pleasing the slashdot peanut gallery with pointless eye-candy. KDE features are thrown into the mix with little or no regard for usability, or even good taste. The end result is disasterous, as can be seen by anyone unforunate enough to be forced into using it."
I have no idea where you came up with this. There is no pointless eye-candy, and I don't have any of it enabled if it does in fact exist...and I find KDE to be extremely functional in all respects. GNOME on the other hand never seems to work for me, and as far as usability goes, whey the hell do they have that second menubar on the top of the screen and another on the bottom? Getting GNOME set up the way one would like out of the box is a nightmare.
Microsoft already sort of does this, when they say that they offer more "freedom and choice" compared to "open source". Sort of fits right in line with their democracy/good=commerical software communism/evil=open source method of thinking.
Which is why they'll start giving it away for free any day now, and try making up for lost revenue through support. They will slowly burn cash, investors will pull out and Microsoft will burn a slow death.
Why did the Chinese go for this? They should know that it is just SuSe and they should know that OpenOffice is available for free from their website. Why now just make their own spin-off of Debian or something like that? Why buy some stupid thing from Sun which is improperly named "Java Desktop" and whose features can be found in any Linux distro. Whatever happened to Hancom linux? I thought that was popular in China?
When they say 5 years, they just mean 5 years for 8 hours per day. If you work for 16 hours per day, you can gain the same experience in 2.5 years. Try using that logic in your next job interview.
It's probably because of the types of jackasses who put goatse.cx links in their sig on slashdot. I've never clicked on a porn link, knowing beforehand that it's porn. It's always unintentional and it happens at work more than I would like.
Bullshit, you have a Bachelor of Computer Science and Bachelor of Electrical Engineering and you're making around $30g per year doing contract work. Bullshit.
"And if you cut Saruman, how are they going to do the final scenes where the Shire is completely decimated (you can see a sneak peek of those when Frodo looks into the water with Galadriel; you can see Frodo, Sam, Merry, and the other hobbit chained up together and forced into a small cottage. Where else would that scene occur than the Shire? And they show Frodo's house, the hill, completely burned away). You need Saruman for those scenes as well. What are they going to do, have some Orcs handle it all by themselves? I don't care what race of Orcs they dream up - no Orc is cunning enough to take over the Shire. Are they going to completely erase the Shire portion? That would be madness indeed."
Yes, I hear the scouring of the shire is all gone. The movie ends in the Gondor/Mordor region...
Don't blame them. Blame the artist. If the artist wanted your money directly, he would ask for it directly. But instead, he/she decided to go through a "record label", "producer", "agent", etc... That's the way the business is. Blame the stupid artists, IMHO. And if it's too hard for independant's to get their foot in the door, ie. to see their home-burnt CDs at Virgin, HMV, etc... then blame the record stores and/or anyone else that prevents this from happening.
And if no option feels right for you, leech off Kazaa while it's still quasi-legal... I mean quasi-decriminalized. Or leave the US if that's where you live now. And start LEACHING!!!!!!!!!!!!
Those things you listed aren't mugging just you, they're mugging the artist.
I agree, but for geeks she'll do just fine. Everyone thought she was hot in Matrix 1 because she was the only chick, except for that Albino girl. So of course everyone thought she was hot. Then Persephone replaced her in #2. Actually I think the hottest chick was the chocolate-cake-orgasm-chick.
I agree. A.I. was horrible. Remember watching it and thinking, "this is perfect ending. Ahh... I'm going to go home now. I give it a 7/10" 10 seconds later, "What the fuck, the kid is still alive! what is this alien shit!". After what felt like an hour later, "0/10."
In case anyone was wondering what the hell Homestar Runner is: http://www.homestarrunner.com. I found the website and I'm still wondering what the hell it is.
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Isn't it just for 90 days?
Yeah but they're running Linux, the best support would be for the IT people to find a HOWTO on the 'net or ask on a mailing list rather than calling up SUN. Who knows more about Linux, hundreds of thousands of experienced users or all the employees at SUN combined? Besides the support from SUN could get expensive.
Sure, Mandrake's dying, but not because they prefer KDE over GNOME.
So what would be an equivalent setup? I mean, if they wanted to use Mandrake (free edition) instead, for example. What does the Sun Desktop have which Mandrake doesn't (besides star office).
"they would have to license a JRE to include in their distro"
Not true. They can use Blackdown JRE.
Don't the Chinese realize how awful this will be to upgrade? Better to go with a debian based system so you can upgrade a system without ever having to touch a installer CD again for years and years (even across new hardware)
Mandrake is quasi-commerical and they've always favoured KDE over GNOME as well.
" the KDE Project, which is entirely aimed at pleasing the slashdot peanut gallery with pointless eye-candy. KDE features are thrown into the mix with little or no regard for usability, or even good taste. The end result is disasterous, as can be seen by anyone unforunate enough to be forced into using it."
I have no idea where you came up with this. There is no pointless eye-candy, and I don't have any of it enabled if it does in fact exist...and I find KDE to be extremely functional in all respects. GNOME on the other hand never seems to work for me, and as far as usability goes, whey the hell do they have that second menubar on the top of the screen and another on the bottom? Getting GNOME set up the way one would like out of the box is a nightmare.
Microsoft already sort of does this, when they say that they offer more "freedom and choice" compared to "open source". Sort of fits right in line with their democracy/good=commerical software communism/evil=open source method of thinking.
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I wonder if it uses the HotJava web browser? Wouldn't that be something?
Why did the Chinese go for this? They should know that it is just SuSe and they should know that OpenOffice is available for free from their website. Why now just make their own spin-off of Debian or something like that? Why buy some stupid thing from Sun which is improperly named "Java Desktop" and whose features can be found in any Linux distro. Whatever happened to Hancom linux? I thought that was popular in China?
Does anyone know what packaging system they use? RPM, dpkg, or their own system?
When they say 5 years, they just mean 5 years for 8 hours per day. If you work for 16 hours per day, you can gain the same experience in 2.5 years. Try using that logic in your next job interview.
It's probably because of the types of jackasses who put goatse.cx links in their sig on slashdot. I've never clicked on a porn link, knowing beforehand that it's porn. It's always unintentional and it happens at work more than I would like.
Oh yeah, I've worked with a few Victorias before. After a few drinks at the Christmas party it's panties off and it's girls gone wild Part V time.
Bullshit, you have a Bachelor of Computer Science and Bachelor of Electrical Engineering and you're making around $30g per year doing contract work. Bullshit.
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Yes, I hear the scouring of the shire is all gone. The movie ends in the Gondor/Mordor region...
You just like it because of this phallic reference.
This kind of shit sucks. They did it with Hamlet and it is the most boring thing I have ever seen. Or maybe it's just because I hate Kenneth Branaugh.
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Don't blame them. Blame the artist. If the artist wanted your money directly, he would ask for it directly. But instead, he/she decided to go through a "record label", "producer", "agent", etc... That's the way the business is. Blame the stupid artists, IMHO. And if it's too hard for independant's to get their foot in the door, ie. to see their home-burnt CDs at Virgin, HMV, etc... then blame the record stores and/or anyone else that prevents this from happening. And if no option feels right for you, leech off Kazaa while it's still quasi-legal... I mean quasi-decriminalized. Or leave the US if that's where you live now. And start LEACHING!!!!!!!!!!!! Those things you listed aren't mugging just you, they're mugging the artist.
I agree, but for geeks she'll do just fine. Everyone thought she was hot in Matrix 1 because she was the only chick, except for that Albino girl. So of course everyone thought she was hot. Then Persephone replaced her in #2. Actually I think the hottest chick was the chocolate-cake-orgasm-chick.
I was thinking the exact same thing that you guys were.
I agree. A.I. was horrible. Remember watching it and thinking, "this is perfect ending. Ahh... I'm going to go home now. I give it a 7/10" 10 seconds later, "What the fuck, the kid is still alive! what is this alien shit!". After what felt like an hour later, "0/10."
In case anyone was wondering what the hell Homestar Runner is: http://www.homestarrunner.com. I found the website and I'm still wondering what the hell it is.