--SCO wins, stock goes up -- management cashes out and drives the company down the drain; they have a lot of practice in this matter
--IBM get's fed up and buys out SCO, stock goes up-- management cashes out and doesn't give shit.
--Bunch of spamers on stock web sites spread fud about how valid SCO's arguments are, bunch of idiots buy their stock, the stock goes up 40% in one session...
well... go figure
the management knows the company is going nowhere with their crappy software, they can't follow their fellow brothers of Enron, WorldCom and others because there is nothing to steal, so they've found out other way to make money.
I wouldn't agree with it. VI/VIM is a really nice interface to wordprocessing, you just have to finish the job with latex or pdflatex.
I know it is hard for word users to start using latex, but once they learn the basic syntax they love it (well, at least 50% of them do).
Back then, when I was in college, quite a few of my profs gave it a shoot and it worked for them really good. The next step was Linux. Many of them are still using latex on linux and love it. I don't think they would trade it for anyting else.
Besides, have you ever tried to write a scientific paper with lots of equations in MS-Word?
If not, give it a try, and then try to do it in latex.
Irix could be huge if they finally add some futures that everybody else has been using for a looooong time; like LDAP support for example. They haven't done a single thing with that OS since 6.2 which was probably the most stable Irix.
Have you taken any corporate classes like 'Doing business the ${COMPANY_NAME} way' ?
The first thing that they will tell you is that they are here to make money for their shareholders. That's fine, but then they start whining about how unloyal are the new employees, yada, yada, job-hopping, yada, yada.
Basically, the corporations are looking for loyal whores, the art of the war is to turn them into ones. Go to training as much as you can, get certified and if they don't appreciate you knowledge and developement - dump them
Take time to compare the offers, don't forget that there is always something new to learn on the new job. Think twice before you accept a counter-offer, especially if they know you took a pay-cut and didn't complain about it too much, and didn't leave the company then. What's gonna prevent them from making you another pay cut let's say 2 months from now?
This is not entirely true. First, your CAD package definition is too broad, let's just stick to solid modeling packages, and speaking of which Pro-E is probably one of the cheapest ones if compared to Unigraphics or Ideas/SDRC (which is dead anyways). Those 2 + Catia have the majority of the market share. Pro-E is usually used by small shops. For the big ones that use it it's almost never the major solid modeling software.
Don't get me wrong, I like Pro-E, I would very much so have it running on Linux in my shop, but if you are a supplier you don't have much choice - you have to use what they tell you to.
... and it goes like this... Chrysler - Catia, GM - Unigraphics, Ford - Ideas/SDRC (in search of new cad software since SDRC was bought by EDS, people say it will be Catia, but let's hope they turn into Pro-E), Boening - Catia, Pratt & Whitney - Unigraphics (if I'm not mistaken), Lockheed Martin - a little bit of everything.
Actually most telcos only guarantee 14.4, and there is nothing you can do about it. They test the line for noise, they don't find anything and tell you that now it is your problem.
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wow, this guy is a real expert in operating systems, since Operating Systems (get it used for $2.18) was published in 1974 he could not include GNOME and KDE, maybe his planning to publish a new bestseller Operating Systems II
Sure they don't have a problem with hacking etc. but have you ever wondered what happens to the hacker if they get him? China doesn't have problem with hacking either, you know why? because they execute hackers.
The main difference is that Mosix doen't work with threads. You can spawn a separate process on a node and it can migrate to different nodes. But if your application is threaded all the threads will run on one node, or migrating between nodes.
well, this is correct, but... how many people actually install windows anyways? Most of them buy preinstalled computers at Best Buy, Circuit City, etc.
The most they do is an upgrade. Take look around, how many people are still running win 95?
It isn't all about the install process; if you tell the average user to reinstall his box it's like telling them to kill someone, they rather take it to the place they bought it from and have them do the job.
Debian installer is actually very good. First of all, it works on 99.9% (0.1% being my rs6000:))of computers without tweeking or giving it boot options, and I had many problems with other distributions installers on the same boxes. Also, it gives you a choice to go to simple mode, which let you specify what the box is used for and the packages are installed.
Sure it would be easier for Debian beginers if the installer was scanning the hardware and loading modules for them... well, if you think that would be a good thing join the Debian's deveopement team http://www.debian.org/devel/
One last thing, Linux has enough installers, and way too many distributions, maybe something should be changed in this area. Don't get me wrong, it is nice to some level, but that's the reason why many companies don't take Linux seriously. I've been working with several software companies to try to get them to port their software to Linux (they have Unix versions of their software) the most common excuse is that Linux is not consistant, too many distros, too many directions.
That's true, I used to know a lot of people having access to compuserve through corporate accounts and all they knew were compuserve chats, message boards, etc.
Also, compuserve was warining you if you wanted to go out to the internet like something bad was happening and you really should reconsider your request:)
fun fun fun
or if you have HP-UX, and they also have outlook... express though, which is useless anyways.
Although, if you haven't try it do it, you'll see how 'UnixXP' from MS would look like
Citrix is pretty nice solution, although it had some stability issues, the xp version seems to work much better. We have many people working on *nix boxes and the only thing missing is the damned outlook. Some of them can live without calendar so they run unix clients, for those who need it we have citrix.
It sure will be a solution if the managers want to go with linux. Here it doesn't seem like it. They wouldn't spend money on Evolution extension. If there was a free solution I could just set up a bunch of users and then show them that it works:). Then there would be a chance that someone notices it.
In the company I work for we have quite some people that use their PC to access mail, surf the internet or type a document. Some of them have their nice and shiny HP-UX boxes and use a Citrix client to connect to the server and open their Outlook clients. Well, the Citrix server isn't too stable and if it goes down they can't check their mail. Two HP released Gnome for HP-UX, so I put it on their desktops and they love it. The for the ones without the nice UNIX boxes I set up a linux terminal on 130 mhz boxes - KDE + all office suites. All of them got Evolution (they complained that it was too slow and the phonebook lookup was inconvenient). They can do almost everything but _ONE_ (we run Exchange) - use the shared calendar. And this is the reason why the linux terminal didn't work even if the users liked the setup. It is a large corporation, so switching to something else than Exchange is not going to work.
The bottom line is - no robust Exchange compatible client = no Linux desktops (in the corporate world anyways).
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Actually, HP is very widely used in engineering, and that's a very large % of all *NIX boxes in use. CDE is just too comlicated to average users whom in many cases don't even know *NIX. Sure Gnome will be a nice addon for them. I'm downloading it right now, I'll see how they like it:)
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Let's look at it from a different perspective.
...
... go figure
--SCO wins, stock goes up -- management cashes out and drives the company down the drain; they have a lot of practice in this matter
--IBM get's fed up and buys out SCO, stock goes up-- management cashes out and doesn't give shit.
--Bunch of spamers on stock web sites spread fud about how valid SCO's arguments are, bunch of idiots buy their stock, the stock goes up 40% in one session
well
the management knows the company is going nowhere with their crappy software, they can't follow their fellow brothers of Enron, WorldCom and others because there is nothing to steal, so they've found out other way to make money.
Nobody, that's why they advertise it.
free=!Open Source
I know it is hard for word users to start using latex, but once they learn the basic syntax they love it (well, at least 50% of them do).
Back then, when I was in college, quite a few of my profs gave it a shoot and it worked for them really good. The next step was Linux. Many of them are still using latex on linux and love it. I don't think they would trade it for anyting else.
Besides, have you ever tried to write a scientific paper with lots of equations in MS-Word?
If not, give it a try, and then try to do it in latex.
Irix could be huge if they finally add some futures that everybody else has been using for a looooong time; like LDAP support for example. They haven't done a single thing with that OS since 6.2 which was probably the most stable Irix.
There is one, it is called Klez.
Also, not all the viruses reside in the OS.
The first thing that they will tell you is that they are here to make money for their shareholders. That's fine, but then they start whining about how unloyal are the new employees, yada, yada, job-hopping, yada, yada.
Basically, the corporations are looking for loyal whores, the art of the war is to turn them into ones. Go to training as much as you can, get certified and if they don't appreciate you knowledge and developement - dump them
Take time to compare the offers, don't forget that there is always something new to learn on the new job. Think twice before you accept a counter-offer, especially if they know you took a pay-cut and didn't complain about it too much, and didn't leave the company then. What's gonna prevent them from making you another pay cut let's say 2 months from now?
they have you where they want you
You really, really read too much BOFH, or you are some wannabe admin or you have a business degree.
Admins role, among other ones, is to _FIND_ a solution that will affect his users the least.
and how did you figure that out?
As per Ford insider news, the switch to CATIA is very likely possible.
Don't get me wrong, I like Pro-E, I would very much so have it running on Linux in my shop, but if you are a supplier you don't have much choice - you have to use what they tell you to.
Actually most telcos only guarantee 14.4, and there is nothing you can do about it. They test the line for noise, they don't find anything and tell you that now it is your problem.
wow, this guy is a real expert in operating systems, since Operating Systems (get it used for $2.18) was published in 1974 he could not include GNOME and KDE, maybe his planning to publish a new bestseller Operating Systems II
there ... it wasn't that difficult
Would you propose to do the same in the states?
I don't think so
The main difference is that Mosix doen't work with threads. You can spawn a separate process on a node and it can migrate to different nodes. But if your application is threaded all the threads will run on one node, or migrating between nodes.
well, this is correct, but ... how many people actually install windows anyways? Most of them buy preinstalled computers at Best Buy, Circuit City, etc. :))of computers without tweeking or giving it boot options, and I had many problems with other distributions installers on the same boxes. Also, it gives you a choice to go to simple mode, which let you specify what the box is used for and the packages are installed. ... well, if you think that would be a good thing join the Debian's deveopement team http://www.debian.org/devel/
The most they do is an upgrade. Take look around, how many people are still running win 95?
It isn't all about the install process; if you tell the average user to reinstall his box it's like telling them to kill someone, they rather take it to the place they bought it from and have them do the job.
Debian installer is actually very good. First of all, it works on 99.9% (0.1% being my rs6000
Sure it would be easier for Debian beginers if the installer was scanning the hardware and loading modules for them
One last thing, Linux has enough installers, and way too many distributions, maybe something should be changed in this area. Don't get me wrong, it is nice to some level, but that's the reason why many companies don't take Linux seriously. I've been working with several software companies to try to get them to port their software to Linux (they have Unix versions of their software) the most common excuse is that Linux is not consistant, too many distros, too many directions.
That's true, I used to know a lot of people having access to compuserve through corporate accounts and all they knew were compuserve chats, message boards, etc. :)
Also, compuserve was warining you if you wanted to go out to the internet like something bad was happening and you really should reconsider your request
fun fun fun
or if you have HP-UX, and they also have outlook ... express though, which is useless anyways.
Although, if you haven't try it do it, you'll see how 'UnixXP' from MS would look like
Citrix is pretty nice solution, although it had some stability issues, the xp version seems to work much better.
We have many people working on *nix boxes and the only thing missing is the damned outlook. Some of them can live without calendar so they run unix clients, for those who need it we have citrix.
for now let's call him 'different'
It sure will be a solution if the managers want to go with linux. Here it doesn't seem like it. They wouldn't spend money on Evolution extension. If there was a free solution I could just set up a bunch of users and then show them that it works :). Then there would be a chance that someone notices it.
In the company I work for we have quite some people that use their PC to access mail, surf the internet or type a document. Some of them have their nice and shiny HP-UX boxes and use a Citrix client to connect to the server and open their Outlook clients. Well, the Citrix server isn't too stable and if it goes down they can't check their mail. Two HP released Gnome for HP-UX, so I put it on their desktops and they love it. The for the ones without the nice UNIX boxes I set up a linux terminal on 130 mhz boxes - KDE + all office suites. All of them got Evolution (they complained that it was too slow and the phonebook lookup was inconvenient). They can do almost everything but _ONE_ (we run Exchange) - use the shared calendar. And this is the reason why the linux terminal didn't work even if the users liked the setup. It is a large corporation, so switching to something else than Exchange is not going to work. The bottom line is - no robust Exchange compatible client = no Linux desktops (in the corporate world anyways).
Actually, HP is very widely used in engineering, and that's a very large % of all *NIX boxes in use. CDE is just too comlicated to average users whom in many cases don't even know *NIX. Sure Gnome will be a nice addon for them. I'm downloading it right now, I'll see how they like it :)