Almost no one who says "watch my karma burn" or "go ahead, mod me down" actually gets moderated down. It's like some weird reverse psychology thing. At least, this is true if they make a valid point in another way. Despite what all the whiners would like to think, you don't often get moderated down for saying things the moderators don't like. Unless you say them like an idiot, or a troll, or they have less than zero to do with the thread. I've been moderated down overrated/offtopic before and felt it was moderator bias, but it's not very common. (Once, I was moderated down a single time on exactly five posts and feel someone with a grudge just went thread-to-thread moderating me down.)
Moderators are normal users who happen to get mod points. And there are a ton of pro-MS people, or neutral-MS, just like there are anti-MS people here. It strikes me as serious victimitis when people complain that they're going to get moderated down beforehand -- bitch after the moderation is done, not before.
Go ahead, moderate me down as offtopic/overrated.;)
I used to use Trillian, but stopped because the free version didn't have unicode support, and almost every other client did, yet Trillian never updated the free version. This was a few years ago, so I don't know if they've changed it. But every time someone copied from a webpage that had characters Trillian didn't support I wanted to break something.
I've been using GAIM(now Pidgin), what about the GUI was so bad? I'm honestly curious, not trying to sound like a fan boy. I know it's pretty ugly in Windows (or was last I looked), but then, F/OSS programs aren't usually known for being pretty. (There are exceptions, but gah, OO.o comes to mind as not pretty.)
My argument was that they come off as kooks to most people. I wasn't actually trying to argue with the point of view or what Gore does -- it's the appearance. You said "comes off as a rambling kook."
And to a lot of people, Gore does. I never said he *was*. I said he appeared to be.
Who? I know of no outspoken proponents of environmentalism that come off like "rambling kooks".
You're kidding, right?
Greenpeace.
Greenpeace: Apple won't tell us how they're helping the environment, so we'll bitch about them. Jobs: We don't usually tell what we're doing because we do, not say. However, we'll change that policy and tell you. Greenpeace: Haha ownt! They changed their environmental policies.
That's pretty fucking kooky to me, because they didn't change environmental policy over Greenpeace. They just decided to tell Greenpeace what they were doing to shut them up. And misrepresenting what Jobs said means either:
A. They're lying kooks. B. They're stupid kooks.
And what about the ELF? They're not kooky to you? What about PeTA and all their insane ads? That's not a little bit kooky to you? I agree with a lot of what they say, but the motherfuckers are crazy. And it strikes most people as really screwed up when someone like Gore running around with a bunch of SUVs in his entourage, jetting back and forth on a private jet, and otherwise pumping CO2 into the atmosphere at a rate far more than the average person, is out there talking about the environment. Carbon offsets my foot; if we all lived like Gore, there wouldn't be enough planet for all the necessary carbon offsets.
He's alienating people by appearing to be a hypocrite, and the average person would probably use "rambling kook" to describe Al Gore.
And before some anon replies yapping about Bush or something, I'm not posting from a left vs. right, Dem vs. Rep standpoint. I'm pointing out that there are some crazy sumbitches in the environmentalist movement.
Hate is always okay if you hate who the government wants you to. The two minute hate was hate for who Big Brother wanted them to hate, not hate for whichever group was whining and paying politicians at the time.
(rant coming) That's what this is. And it's ridiculous -- I have friends, lots of them, that belong to various groups that are maligned by other groups for ridiculous reasons. Everything from sexual preference, to religion, to skin color (and in one special case, all three, the poor bastard, he's got like eight groups hating him). But I still think banning any sort of "hate" speech is stupid.
It's a band aid. Most forms of hate speech come from ignorance. Fix that, you fix the people buying into the hate speech. At least, the ones that can be saved. The rest are fucking idiots. And banning hate speech won't fix it. It'll just push it under ground, and like marijuana in the United States, give it a "cool" status. Forbidding something naturally creates curiosity. Let the morons rant and rave and expose themselves for the fools they are so we know who to avoid.
I'd rather know who the racist/sexist/religionist/homophobic assholes are, than not. It makes life a lot easier for me when someone says "well you know how 'those people' are" and nods at me knowingly. No, asshole, I don't, and you can take your baseless hate elsewhere.
Actually, I know quite a few people who had similar experiences. And the same can be said for a few other Sony DVD/CD devices made since the PS1. CD players, DVD+RW drives, PS1s...
Outside of Nintendo systems and various TVs, most electronics are crap, so I guess it's unfair to blame just Sony for this... but hell, this is/., if I can't bitch about $ony and M$, what can I do?!
Yes, but some people live where public transportation isn't viable at all and therefore a car is a necessity and part of their regular bills. People who don't have a lot of spending money, but live a ways from where public transportation goes (and where it is *cheaper* to live, too).
A playstation 3 is most certainly not a necessity. Neither is a Wii, but it's more in their price range for entertainment.
That, and the damn things break so easy. Other than the NES, I've never had a console crap out on me before the PS2 just stopped working. If any system should've stopped, it was the Gamecube, which had the ever-loving hell beat out of it when someone caught the cord and pulled it off the TV... but noo, the barely-used PS2 crapped out.
I've had teachers in college who don't use red. Purple or green, but never red, or black, or anything. But I've had some who use whatever color pen is at hand. And my Physics teacher (instructor? whatever) uses only red. Which was really scary when he handed back labs with a "100" and you didn't initially see the "1" and first "0" because of his hand. (I swear to God, he did that on purpose.)
Christ... Flamebait/troll moderators: Grow a sense of humor.
Flamebait implies, y'know, trying to bait a flame war. I was just being snarky.
Troll implies, y'know, trolling for replies. I could care less.
The truth is, Windows Vista, like every other Windows, busted out the gate with a bunch of issues. I hear a lot of negative about it, and not since ME has a system been so reviled by all the non-geeks I know who have used it.
"It's irrelevant whether or not Bush is actually 'nice.' What we're talking about here is his portrayal in the American mass media. And that portrayal can best be described as demonization."
Try getting away with one tenth of the criticism of Putin in Russia that the American mass media has heaped on Bush (or Clinton, or Bush I, or Reagan, or Carter, during their respective terms, or whoever is coming next).
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What are their ideas?
I have no idea how the Mormon church system works, and am actually curious now.
Do they sell tickets like a movie theater?
Almost no one who says "watch my karma burn" or "go ahead, mod me down" actually gets moderated down. It's like some weird reverse psychology thing. At least, this is true if they make a valid point in another way. Despite what all the whiners would like to think, you don't often get moderated down for saying things the moderators don't like. Unless you say them like an idiot, or a troll, or they have less than zero to do with the thread. I've been moderated down overrated/offtopic before and felt it was moderator bias, but it's not very common. (Once, I was moderated down a single time on exactly five posts and feel someone with a grudge just went thread-to-thread moderating me down.)
;)
Moderators are normal users who happen to get mod points. And there are a ton of pro-MS people, or neutral-MS, just like there are anti-MS people here. It strikes me as serious victimitis when people complain that they're going to get moderated down beforehand -- bitch after the moderation is done, not before.
Go ahead, moderate me down as offtopic/overrated.
I dunno, I'd be more likely to take a bunch of shit from someone who was paying me. someone who isn't paying me? I'd just tell them to fuck off.
the difference is, of course, Linus isn't being as abusive as Gates.
I used to use Trillian, but stopped because the free version didn't have unicode support, and almost every other client did, yet Trillian never updated the free version. This was a few years ago, so I don't know if they've changed it. But every time someone copied from a webpage that had characters Trillian didn't support I wanted to break something.
I've been using GAIM(now Pidgin), what about the GUI was so bad? I'm honestly curious, not trying to sound like a fan boy. I know it's pretty ugly in Windows (or was last I looked), but then, F/OSS programs aren't usually known for being pretty. (There are exceptions, but gah, OO.o comes to mind as not pretty.)
Totally friending you for this post.
/. about this.
Thank you for bringing some perspective to
My argument was that they come off as kooks to most people. I wasn't actually trying to argue with the point of view or what Gore does -- it's the appearance. You said "comes off as a rambling kook."
And to a lot of people, Gore does. I never said he *was*. I said he appeared to be.
Who? I know of no outspoken proponents of environmentalism that come off like "rambling kooks".
You're kidding, right?
Greenpeace.
Greenpeace: Apple won't tell us how they're helping the environment, so we'll bitch about them.
Jobs: We don't usually tell what we're doing because we do, not say. However, we'll change that policy and tell you.
Greenpeace: Haha ownt! They changed their environmental policies.
That's pretty fucking kooky to me, because they didn't change environmental policy over Greenpeace. They just decided to tell Greenpeace what they were doing to shut them up. And misrepresenting what Jobs said means either:
A. They're lying kooks.
B. They're stupid kooks.
And what about the ELF? They're not kooky to you? What about PeTA and all their insane ads? That's not a little bit kooky to you? I agree with a lot of what they say, but the motherfuckers are crazy. And it strikes most people as really screwed up when someone like Gore running around with a bunch of SUVs in his entourage, jetting back and forth on a private jet, and otherwise pumping CO2 into the atmosphere at a rate far more than the average person, is out there talking about the environment. Carbon offsets my foot; if we all lived like Gore, there wouldn't be enough planet for all the necessary carbon offsets.
He's alienating people by appearing to be a hypocrite, and the average person would probably use "rambling kook" to describe Al Gore.
And before some anon replies yapping about Bush or something, I'm not posting from a left vs. right, Dem vs. Rep standpoint. I'm pointing out that there are some crazy sumbitches in the environmentalist movement.
*office, *suite
Moron.
Hate is always okay if you hate who the government wants you to. The two minute hate was hate for who Big Brother wanted them to hate, not hate for whichever group was whining and paying politicians at the time.
(rant coming) That's what this is. And it's ridiculous -- I have friends, lots of them, that belong to various groups that are maligned by other groups for ridiculous reasons. Everything from sexual preference, to religion, to skin color (and in one special case, all three, the poor bastard, he's got like eight groups hating him). But I still think banning any sort of "hate" speech is stupid.
It's a band aid. Most forms of hate speech come from ignorance. Fix that, you fix the people buying into the hate speech. At least, the ones that can be saved. The rest are fucking idiots. And banning hate speech won't fix it. It'll just push it under ground, and like marijuana in the United States, give it a "cool" status. Forbidding something naturally creates curiosity. Let the morons rant and rave and expose themselves for the fools they are so we know who to avoid.
I'd rather know who the racist/sexist/religionist/homophobic assholes are, than not. It makes life a lot easier for me when someone says "well you know how 'those people' are" and nods at me knowingly. No, asshole, I don't, and you can take your baseless hate elsewhere.
Welcome to /. man. That's just how it works here.
/., if I can't bitch about $ony and M$, what can I do?!
Actually, I know quite a few people who had similar experiences. And the same can be said for a few other Sony DVD/CD devices made since the PS1. CD players, DVD+RW drives, PS1s...
Outside of Nintendo systems and various TVs, most electronics are crap, so I guess it's unfair to blame just Sony for this... but hell, this is
Am I the only one who had Hitchhiker's Guide flashbacks reading that?
"This isn't the PRESIDENTIAL hate speech request form..."
Yes, but some people live where public transportation isn't viable at all and therefore a car is a necessity and part of their regular bills. People who don't have a lot of spending money, but live a ways from where public transportation goes (and where it is *cheaper* to live, too).
A playstation 3 is most certainly not a necessity. Neither is a Wii, but it's more in their price range for entertainment.
That's why the PS2 still sells so strongly.
That, and the damn things break so easy. Other than the NES, I've never had a console crap out on me before the PS2 just stopped working. If any system should've stopped, it was the Gamecube, which had the ever-loving hell beat out of it when someone caught the cord and pulled it off the TV... but noo, the barely-used PS2 crapped out.
what, me bitter?
...How long before the definition of "hate" is expanded to speech politicians don't like?
I've had teachers in college who don't use red. Purple or green, but never red, or black, or anything. But I've had some who use whatever color pen is at hand. And my Physics teacher (instructor? whatever) uses only red. Which was really scary when he handed back labs with a "100" and you didn't initially see the "1" and first "0" because of his hand. (I swear to God, he did that on purpose.)
The Secretary swears to protect and defend the constitution (or whatever the equivalent is for Ohio state positions), not to protect the elephant.
So do the Presidents. But they're still partisan.
Fuck.
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AOLers found
Oh God, help me... ...I actually laughed at that.
agh, yeah.
That should be "couldn't care less." But I'm an idiot sometimes.
Christ... Flamebait/troll moderators: Grow a sense of humor.
Flamebait implies, y'know, trying to bait a flame war. I was just being snarky.
Troll implies, y'know, trolling for replies. I could care less.
The truth is, Windows Vista, like every other Windows, busted out the gate with a bunch of issues. I hear a lot of negative about it, and not since ME has a system been so reviled by all the non-geeks I know who have used it.
I have to say, your sig makes that even funnier than it would be under normal circumstances.
Vista = BSOD
:)
There, fixed the title for you.
Someone instantly calling another person an idiot doesn't have much room to bitch about others not engaging in legitimate discussion.
PS. Asshole.
That's silly. No one listens to Air America.
S'why they went bankrupt...
And the same could be said about George W Bush:
"It's irrelevant whether or not Bush is actually 'nice.' What we're talking about here is his portrayal in the American mass media. And that portrayal can best be described as demonization."
Try getting away with one tenth of the criticism of Putin in Russia that the American mass media has heaped on Bush (or Clinton, or Bush I, or Reagan, or Carter, during their respective terms, or whoever is coming next).