Now, anyone can improve themselves. Anyone can work harder and learn more and better themselves. But that's not the same as being special, and it's not a justification for sending everyone to college.
I'm not sure which archetypal university we're all talking about, but the one I go to offers welding certs, GIS programs, flight schools, officer training (some kind of ROTC deal? no idea), law enforcement courses, a teaching school, music programs, agriculture studies, etc etc etc, in addition to the normal liberal arts offerings.
I think perhaps we're really talking about all the "business" degrees people used to want, maybe? I don't know, this whole conversation seems pretty divorced from reality to me.
I'm not sure what you're getting at, exactly. I'm suggesting that a few core concepts would be held through several generations, you seem to be saying that our grandkids will be grunting cavepeople with no tie to their parents or grandparents.
If we're talking about a method of transmitting key bits of knowledge to illiterate savages, then we need to rethink this conversation. Or at least reframe it. It's an interesting problem, but not what I was trying to get across.
I'm suggesting that, given the death of our society (but not our intellect) there are just a few points we could distill down to cheap slogans that would nevertheless serve as seeds to renew, quickly renew, our current place in the world. My two points are, in my opinion, two of the hardest-won crystals of knowledge in our brief history on this planet. If we could keep these while society crumbled around us I believe we would have an incredible head start on rebuilding.
Apple IIgs demos had just started to kick amazing ass when Cupertino discontinued it. That machine was the spiritual opposite of the Lisa, but doomed just the same.
((Anyone remember when WUStL was the hub of the warez scene? *sheds a silent tear*))
Real easy to make. Google 'lye ash soap'. Part of the whole "wash your hands with soap" thing is that the soap making process is an intro to basic chemistry, just as the "sun is a star" thing is an intro to math (in a sense).
One of the biggest plot holes that post-apocalyptia has to deal with is having us forget a few hard-won pieces of knowledge. Microscopic organisms and a heliocentric solar system are two things that, in my opinion, it would take more than three generations of fail to remove from our collective consciousness.
It's easy to feel that, if you are not a specialist in medicine or science, you'd slowly gravitate towards fighting the dogs for scraps of bone, but keep in mind that we've been indoctrinated with the basics of rational thinking since early childhood. We take this for granted, but the Enlightenment was hard fought and then not that long ago, really.
Were we to revert in a generation or two to a hunter-gatherer state, we'd find ourselves with an abundance of free time. Time to teach our children to read, time to experiment with soap making =), time to rebuild.
Admittedly one of the problems here is that adding a fourth channel would require a 4-dimensional color space to fully utilize that extra channel. To really utilize this sort of new feature would require a whole new image recording system.
OH FUCK THIS. It's Sunday evening, I've worked all weekend, and just when I thought it was done I'm
hitting yet another problem that's based on the hopeless state of our databases. There is no uniform
data integrity, it's just a catalogue of issues that continues to grow as they're found.
This has been uttered in every lab, office, factory, school, and probably church since the dawn of the personal computer. This is why people say they "work" with computers instead of "playing" them, because you need to do "work" to get everything "working". This note is a conversation from one "worker" to another complaining about the amount of "work" he needs to do.
This shows me the quality of data climate science works with is poor.
So you think that one note you clearly do not understand would affect data collection methods in every other lab or office around the world, but only those dealing with climate? Your logic compels you to entirely reject science and all it stands for!
For disks just buy a region free player. They're like fifty bucks on Amazon. All the effort of encoding disks and getting manufacturers to play along goes down the drain with one mouse click.
It's got to suck to see all of those "Canada is a US state/protectorate/pawn" digs gain traction, eh?
I'm surprised this hasn't become a huge political liability for him. Wouldn't it take just one commercial showing how he bends the country over for his "American corporate masters" to get him out of office?
Canada, you're supposed to be the sane one in this relationship. Don't make us hit you.
OT, but I see this sentiment over in the states too and I've never really understood it. Of all the people making tons of cash on sports entertainment, why do only the entertainers catch flak for it?
The only way to get Corporate/Management off of IE6 is to fix any web apps you have in your organization that won't work on anything but that.
Are there any essential elements in a web app that require IE-only hooks, or is it still mainly a problem with devs trying to get UI features to line up (and so forth)? I've seen more questionable design choices than brilliant-but-arcane applications.
"he" turns out to be "you". sorry, didn't realize you were the same as the GP.
That was my point, the reason I restated Godwin's Law for the Middle East. The two things are fundamentally different, and people need to learn not to juxtapose them.
Ok, but your sig seems to be suggesting that a majority does conflate the two. Not really my problem, just pointing it out. As far as "fundamentally different" goes, they're both products of hard-core nationalism which, in my opinion, is one of the major problems we'll have to tackle this century. It will be interesting to see how Zionism plays out in Israel in the next decade, since public support seems to be drying up in the US. The appearance of a Palestinian Gandhi or MLK seems like it would split the country apart.
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Ahh ok I see the problem. I'm positing ancestors smarter than you.
Now, anyone can improve themselves. Anyone can work harder and learn more and better themselves. But that's not the same as being special, and it's not a justification for sending everyone to college.
I'm not sure which archetypal university we're all talking about, but the one I go to offers welding certs, GIS programs, flight schools, officer training (some kind of ROTC deal? no idea), law enforcement courses, a teaching school, music programs, agriculture studies, etc etc etc, in addition to the normal liberal arts offerings.
I think perhaps we're really talking about all the "business" degrees people used to want, maybe? I don't know, this whole conversation seems pretty divorced from reality to me.
Chance of you being in a middle of a huge natural disaster[...]: 1:1,000,000,000.
(odds may vary in New Orleans, Iceland, most of Africa)
I'm not sure what you're getting at, exactly. I'm suggesting that a few core concepts would be held through several generations, you seem to be saying that our grandkids will be grunting cavepeople with no tie to their parents or grandparents. If we're talking about a method of transmitting key bits of knowledge to illiterate savages, then we need to rethink this conversation. Or at least reframe it. It's an interesting problem, but not what I was trying to get across. I'm suggesting that, given the death of our society (but not our intellect) there are just a few points we could distill down to cheap slogans that would nevertheless serve as seeds to renew, quickly renew, our current place in the world. My two points are, in my opinion, two of the hardest-won crystals of knowledge in our brief history on this planet. If we could keep these while society crumbled around us I believe we would have an incredible head start on rebuilding.
Apple IIgs demos had just started to kick amazing ass when Cupertino discontinued it. That machine was the spiritual opposite of the Lisa, but doomed just the same.
((Anyone remember when WUStL was the hub of the warez scene? *sheds a silent tear*))
You lucky, lucky bastard! What I wouldn't give to be spat at in the f... oh, wrong meme? I'll see myself out.
Heh. And where do you buy your soap ?
Real easy to make. Google 'lye ash soap'. Part of the whole "wash your hands with soap" thing is that the soap making process is an intro to basic chemistry, just as the "sun is a star" thing is an intro to math (in a sense).
One of the biggest plot holes that post-apocalyptia has to deal with is having us forget a few hard-won pieces of knowledge. Microscopic organisms and a heliocentric solar system are two things that, in my opinion, it would take more than three generations of fail to remove from our collective consciousness.
It's easy to feel that, if you are not a specialist in medicine or science, you'd slowly gravitate towards fighting the dogs for scraps of bone, but keep in mind that we've been indoctrinated with the basics of rational thinking since early childhood. We take this for granted, but the Enlightenment was hard fought and then not that long ago, really.
Were we to revert in a generation or two to a hunter-gatherer state, we'd find ourselves with an abundance of free time. Time to teach our children to read, time to experiment with soap making =), time to rebuild.
And just how much of that cultural knowledge do you think would survive after 2 or 3 generations of what is essentially an illiterate society?
Here's two things to write on your cave wall:
- Wash your hands with soap.
- The Sun is a star.
Everything else follows.
I'd say that being able to create a reference page for a brand new word is probably one of the strengths of wikipedia.
And nobody sees the irony in commenting on a page's lack of notability?
Nobody is interested in solving this problem. The Gimp crew couldn't care less, and anyone doing the kind of work that needs it can afford Photoshop.
It's a pointless argument, hence its flamebait status =)
I know, now I'm getting heat for my "septic system" ending in a creek. Truly the tyranny of the commons.
Look, the only thing we need to know is if she wears a flag pin on her lapel.
Considering that Gimp is a photo manipulation and editing tool, and CMYK is a colorspace, what sort of flamewar could there be?
"Gimp's CMYK support isn't good enough for my professional needs!"
(now we wait)
Admittedly one of the problems here is that adding a fourth channel would require a 4-dimensional color space to fully utilize that extra channel. To really utilize this sort of new feature would require a whole new image recording system.
Is it too late to start a Gimp vs. CMYK flamewar?
"Remember when you told me to tell you when you were acting rude and insensitive? Well, you're doing it now."
And call him Mr. Potato Head if he thinks backdoors are secret, I guess.
OH FUCK THIS. It's Sunday evening, I've worked all weekend, and just when I thought it was done I'm hitting yet another problem that's based on the hopeless state of our databases. There is no uniform data integrity, it's just a catalogue of issues that continues to grow as they're found.
This has been uttered in every lab, office, factory, school, and probably church since the dawn of the personal computer. This is why people say they "work" with computers instead of "playing" them, because you need to do "work" to get everything "working". This note is a conversation from one "worker" to another complaining about the amount of "work" he needs to do.
This shows me the quality of data climate science works with is poor.
So you think that one note you clearly do not understand would affect data collection methods in every other lab or office around the world, but only those dealing with climate? Your logic compels you to entirely reject science and all it stands for!
For disks just buy a region free player. They're like fifty bucks on Amazon. All the effort of encoding disks and getting manufacturers to play along goes down the drain with one mouse click.
"Exactly. Most of the comments here are the classic example of the echo chamber." he said, with no apparent sense of irony.
Homer: Lisa, a guy who's got lots of ivory is less likely to hurt Stampy than a guy whose ivory supplies are low.
It's got to suck to see all of those "Canada is a US state/protectorate/pawn" digs gain traction, eh?
I'm surprised this hasn't become a huge political liability for him. Wouldn't it take just one commercial showing how he bends the country over for his "American corporate masters" to get him out of office?
Canada, you're supposed to be the sane one in this relationship. Don't make us hit you.
I'm sure the players could take a pay cut.
OT, but I see this sentiment over in the states too and I've never really understood it. Of all the people making tons of cash on sports entertainment, why do only the entertainers catch flak for it?
The only way to get Corporate/Management off of IE6 is to fix any web apps you have in your organization that won't work on anything but that.
Are there any essential elements in a web app that require IE-only hooks, or is it still mainly a problem with devs trying to get UI features to line up (and so forth)? I've seen more questionable design choices than brilliant-but-arcane applications.
'Common Sense' and 'Law' are two totally distinct entities. Tears of frustration and rage will ensue if you continue to conflate them.
they have to, they have shareholders
There are plenty of public corporations who do not take the lowest road in the name of their shareholders.
"he" turns out to be "you". sorry, didn't realize you were the same as the GP.
That was my point, the reason I restated Godwin's Law for the Middle East. The two things are fundamentally different, and people need to learn not to juxtapose them.
Ok, but your sig seems to be suggesting that a majority does conflate the two. Not really my problem, just pointing it out. As far as "fundamentally different" goes, they're both products of hard-core nationalism which, in my opinion, is one of the major problems we'll have to tackle this century. It will be interesting to see how Zionism plays out in Israel in the next decade, since public support seems to be drying up in the US. The appearance of a Palestinian Gandhi or MLK seems like it would split the country apart.