Well first of all you cant really point at how many poeple that have licensed the tech and say its a monopoly. Maybe MS have been better at marketing wma against OEMs while apple hae focused on their consumers? If we draw your conclusion to the end then MP3 is the monopoly format of the day.
Everyone isnt using windows for everything! How terrible!
This is all about MS history biting them in the ass. Their previous records of ass fucking every possible partner has gotten into the heads of people. You cant trust MS and thus you team up with ABM.
I see strong similarities with integrated video/tv and all-on-one hifi systems. People dont want to purchase a complete new system any time a new device new gets out. Sure the manufacturers would like that but in an open enonomy the buyer decides right?
The pc is alright for an all-in-one system but that is not the case with other stuff. We barely stand the pc why would we introduce ourselves to yet onother system that cant be expanded without purchasing everything again and again?
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Hey, you missed one thing.
Namely that it is Palestine that is under occupation and ethnic clensing. The palestines have tried peaceful methods and all have failed. Only later on in history did some groups of palestines resort to violence (please aknowledge that few palestines is terrorists). The terrorism wouldnt have emerged at all if Israel would have handled the matter according to war laws and folk laws. The settlements is the biggest slap in the face because it specifically targets getting the palestines out and the israels into the settlements, clearly an act of ethnic clensing. The killing of accused but not trialed terrorists is state terrorism. Most often near and dear to those terrorists is killed aswell. For what, knowing the wrong people? What if israel get wrongful information and killes someone totally innocent?
If you just would study the subject closer you would understand the mechanism behind the terrorism and how to stop it. It just cant be stopped with violence less that one kills an entire population. But hey, thats ok right just as long as israel gets its holy land?
Somhow i feal the only ones that somehow missed the lesson from the holocaust is israel. The rest of us has understood, you cant kill someone for their belief, colour or race.
I think a good idea is to rip win98 out and slap togher a ltsp terminal server and using the old win98 boxes for linux terminal clients, atleast at schools and offices. Since ltsp clients need not hds nor maintanance on the client they are essentially mainanance free. All config and updating etc is done centrally and that should save a boundle.
For schools this is a perfect solution atleast where 99% of the computertime is word processing and information gathering. I personally think it would work splendid at many businessess to.
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Ifind myself in a world where its dangerous to express my innermost fealings out loud. If i feal something its important that i can say so. If society dont like what i think its up to the society to prove me wrong by education and by reasoning. All absence of reasoning behind what is wrong and right breeds hate and terrorism.
Yes thats right, terrorism. What do YOU do when you feel for something more than you feel for life itself? Do you just step aside and let others make your decisions for you or do you fight for your right to think and feel as you like? Most people step aside and hide their fealings but some people like during the slave wars in the USA or in the indian upprising take the fight and stands for their beliefs.
If they are hindered from expressing their beliefs at some point they will resort to violence with a few exceptions. The israeli occupation and ethnic clensing of palestine is one excellent example of what happens when you step on someones rights too much. Anyone can become a terrorist at a point and its nothing that is contained to certain religions or folks.
Just look at your own history and the freedom fighters against england. Im sure they would be labeled terrorists by todays definition by the current administeration, dont you?
Linux has so far managed to do just fine without support from the hardware companies so far. The only drivers i can think of that really needs hardware manufacturer support is graphic drivers and that is only because their reluctance to release the hardware specs.
The reason there hasnt been a freeze is that its really to soon in the development process to do so. The kernel isnt stable enough yet and a freeze would put an end to much of the development. When the kernel stabilize (development) there will be a frozen api but today it would only be in the way of things to come.
This is a myth from people who think like a company. The only thing linux really needs to survive is users who like it or want to change linux into something they like.
If linux becomes oh so unpopular what is it to say that no one just takes the codebase and make something new and better? I think the cat is out of the bag now and thanks to OSS the applications barrier to entry is officially dead or atleast very small compared to how things looked a couple of years ago.
Without the applications barrier MS has no real advantage over anything else.
The more light on this the better. Because so much of *nix is really a standard the more sources for the same code we can dig up the better. Reverse engineering is not illegal (except in US of DMCA perhaps) and is not something to be frightened of. If you can show many examples of this code in a manual or some puplic form it will be very hard not to say impossible for SCO to claim any rights to it. It would be like having copyright on a phonebooks content, ie someone having a copyright on YOUR phone number.
The amount of light on this from the OSS community is something new. Never ever have we seen a case so totally dissected even before it goes to trial. If groklaw keeps this up the IBM laywers can just sit back and enjoy the ride.
Hiding things is for people who have something dark to hide, like Bush.
Well as for apt-get or yum you cant compare those to windows update at all. First of all apt-get/yum updates every single application installed while windowsupdate doesnt even update Microsofts own products outside IE or MS-Windows. Had it covered atleast MS own products but it really is limited. Tried running windowsupdate from a script? Apt-get/yum is way ahead of windowsupdate in any way i can think of. And it doesnt cost you more than hardware to put your own apt repository up.
Why would anyone need exchange? Did you want a mail server or did you want Exchange in specific? You do realize that what you are saying is that you want the brand and not the function in itself? There are tons of ways to accomplish the same things Exchange does and most often much better and with cheaper hardware. If its one thing exchange does it is eating cpu cycles.
"For firewall we kept windows because the software we currently use performs much better on windows than Linux"
In 2005 every citizen on earth is tracked and monitored. Your government knows your every move and if you become a political enemy to the ones holding this power then kiss your ass goodbye. Imagine watergate if this technology had been present. All we would have known was that some journalist died tragically....meanwhile the terrorists dont use phones, the internet or ordinary mail services and go undetected.
Why put endless money into the holy grail of energy? We have solar, wind and earth energy right at our feet. Ready to be used at a fraction of the money it costs of getting nuclear power.
The only reason nuclear power is even remotley usable is that half the cost is put onto future generations such as waste storage and the huge loans that built the plants.
And can somebody please shut that fuckfuckingmotherfucking Bush idiot up before he starts WW3 in the name of god or something as stupid? Before the iraq war he had the whole damn world behind him and in some miracular way he has succeded in making the terrorists look pretty nice in comparison. The Bush administration is the biggest fucking threat to mankind since Hitler.
Software is not something you can patent because of fundamental differences in the nature of the end product and how it is manufactured.
Can you imagine someone patenting a device called "method for using a fork to emulate a comb" ? Well that is just what patenting software is mostly about. While when you patent a way to acheive a goal in real life patents you patent the goal in software patents. If i want to do A in software HAVE to use method B, very often because that is the obvious and right way. If i dont do it that way i have to take unessecary steps to get around the obvious solution, often by doing something different than i first set out to do (before i had even thought about how).
The patent becomes the gatekeeper to an end goal and not to one perticular way of acheiving this goal. It is all to evident that software patents is going to inhibit US development of software and give Asia and China etc an enourmous advantage.
I could swallow it if the patents wore carefully examined and very restrictive but the USPO seems to give patents out like the green card lottery.
You have just unpacked your shiny new P4 and you now stand with your old pentium in a corner. What do you do? Well most often that computer isnt tossed away but used as a second computer or given to the kids.
I dont think anyone is stupid enough to shell out the dough for an XP license to Windows XP on an old computer that cant handle the requirements. Since Linux too have roughly the same requirements as XP to be a smooth workstation it isnt likely being installed with linux either. A server yes but a linux workstation on a Pentium 133 32mb ram? I dont think so since most dists install KDE/Gnome default.
All theese old PC's is good enough to surf the web and write letters etc so people dont want to throw them away. They dont want to buy a brand spanking new computer either since it adds so little value compared to the old one if you are just using it so surf and such.
Until a real killer app comes along that demands a faster computer to do neat stuff on the net those old rags will linger on. The internet is still just pictures and text and nothing have been able to change that so far.
I have been thinking about theese patents fo awhile now. Copyrights and patents seams like a way to make something obvious and commonly used profitable. The question one must ask oneself is just why governments is so keen to accept patents as an end-all solution to keeping markets up in their never ending incline in profit. I think especially the US has confused development of products and goods with making money easily.
Because development = money they have gotten it backwards and think that money = development wich is infact quite the opposite IRL.
If there are shortcuts to money companies will use them instead of putting money on R&D. If you can get a patent on an obvious solution to a common problem you will be the gatekeeper to that problem. Imagine the state of the economy today if someone had patented the internet, the electricity or the cars?
Development would stand still and prices would have been up the roof.
The key to balance between progress and the ability to profit from progress is short timespan of governental subsided monopoly. I.E someone given a patent should have a short limited time to cash in on the patent. Thus making the development and implementation of patents the goal instead of like today, finding the patent with the most "users" and then just collect money.
Patents as stupid as theese isnt nothing but a nuicence until they are extended for 10 years. If it only held up for a couple of years it wouldnt matter. The timeframe that copyright and patents stands is what must be changed. Patents should not be something you pile and then just sit back. The original idea about patents is NOTHING like what we see today.
Then they have to start selling their products by reputation and by quality! Oy we!
Ads are just a way to sell things that isnt good enough to be sold by their own. A side effect of the ad-based selling we see today is the decline in quality in most markets.
With good enough marketing you can sell outright crap wich kind of makes the free market miss its best feature.
Those services are built upon GNU tools and has nothing with any kernel to do. Microsoft is merely packaging those tools to make migrating from *nix to windows easier. If anyone would pay for those they would be insane since they are owned solely by GNU.
That or they have a hidden agenda and the need for an excuse to add more to SCO's warchest until Longorn makes it out.
The vorst thing that could happen was for this to be resolved out of court. A court is a very nive place to get to information else unavaliable, like, for instance, what the fsck did Microsoft get a license for? The arent in the unix business by any mesure and i cant remember one single product that even touches unix coming from MS. In a court this kind of info might be revealed. If its apperent that they did not buy a license but instead just gave money under the table to fuel anti-linux FUD they will be hated, much more than today. Same goes for Sun for that matter.
The money trail into SCO needs to be resolved since there are some suspicious trails leading back towards Redmond.
Even if this is almost thinfoil-hat material Microsoft has pulled worse stunts than this before and under much less pressure than right now. They have a busuness modell that demands increased revenues each year and if the revenue drops even a bit they are down the tube. Id really like to know just how much stock is inside Microsoft and how fast people would sell if it stops gaining value in current pace.
By this i conclude that they dont have to loose any significant portion of the market to be toast. All it takes is a slowdown in their growth.
Wirh longhorn so far ahead and the impossibility for them to release yet another crappy OS again they have to slow linux implementation down until Longhorn is ready. If linux gains to much momentum now it will be almost impossible to stop, almost exactly like when Win95 was introduced and OS/2 came in too late.
If you are in the position of buying any Software from redmond (Microsoft) and you dont pretend to want to use linux instead, you are just plain stupid! You really dont do your job then and should work selling fries.
As for me, price hasnt that much with the choice of linux. Its more about the fact that i find linux to be much better. I would even pay more.
Well most banks require certain browsers as do many uninformed websites with flawed scripts. I would presume that most users running into that kind of problems change their UA. While people like me bangs our head bloody trying to get into the webmasters thick heads to change the scripts i think most people change the user agent when his happens.
I have not seen many sites that doesnt render in Moz but i have seen plenty of sites that wont hand any code over unless you run IE (or spoof your UA).
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Well first of all you cant really point at how many poeple that have licensed the tech and say its a monopoly. Maybe MS have been better at marketing wma against OEMs while apple hae focused on their consumers? If we draw your conclusion to the end then MP3 is the monopoly format of the day.
Everyone isnt using windows for everything! How terrible!
This is all about MS history biting them in the ass. Their previous records of ass fucking every possible partner has gotten into the heads of people. You cant trust MS and thus you team up with ABM.
I see strong similarities with integrated video/tv and all-on-one hifi systems. People dont want to purchase a complete new system any time a new device new gets out. Sure the manufacturers would like that but in an open enonomy the buyer decides right?
The pc is alright for an all-in-one system but that is not the case with other stuff. We barely stand the pc why would we introduce ourselves to yet onother system that cant be expanded without purchasing everything again and again?
Hey, you missed one thing.
Namely that it is Palestine that is under occupation and ethnic clensing. The palestines have tried peaceful methods and all have failed. Only later on in history did some groups of palestines resort to violence (please aknowledge that few palestines is terrorists). The terrorism wouldnt have emerged at all if Israel would have handled the matter according to war laws and folk laws. The settlements is the biggest slap in the face because it specifically targets getting the palestines out and the israels into the settlements, clearly an act of ethnic clensing. The killing of accused but not trialed terrorists is state terrorism. Most often near and dear to those terrorists is killed aswell. For what, knowing the wrong people? What if israel get wrongful information and killes someone totally innocent?
If you just would study the subject closer you would understand the mechanism behind the terrorism and how to stop it. It just cant be stopped with violence less that one kills an entire population. But hey, thats ok right just as long as israel gets its holy land?
Somhow i feal the only ones that somehow missed the lesson from the holocaust is israel. The rest of us has understood, you cant kill someone for their belief, colour or race.
I think a good idea is to rip win98 out and slap togher a ltsp terminal server and using the old win98 boxes for linux terminal clients, atleast at schools and offices. Since ltsp clients need not hds nor maintanance on the client they are essentially mainanance free. All config and updating etc is done centrally and that should save a boundle.
For schools this is a perfect solution atleast where 99% of the computertime is word processing and information gathering. I personally think it would work splendid at many businessess to.
Ifind myself in a world where its dangerous to express my innermost fealings out loud. If i feal something its important that i can say so. If society dont like what i think its up to the society to prove me wrong by education and by reasoning. All absence of reasoning behind what is wrong and right breeds hate and terrorism.
Yes thats right, terrorism. What do YOU do when you feel for something more than you feel for life itself? Do you just step aside and let others make your decisions for you or do you fight for your right to think and feel as you like? Most people step aside and hide their fealings but some people like during the slave wars in the USA or in the indian upprising take the fight and stands for their beliefs.
If they are hindered from expressing their beliefs at some point they will resort to violence with a few exceptions. The israeli occupation and ethnic clensing of palestine is one excellent example of what happens when you step on someones rights too much. Anyone can become a terrorist at a point and its nothing that is contained to certain religions or folks.
Just look at your own history and the freedom fighters against england. Im sure they would be labeled terrorists by todays definition by the current administeration, dont you?
Linux has so far managed to do just fine without support from the hardware companies so far. The only drivers i can think of that really needs hardware manufacturer support is graphic drivers and that is only because their reluctance to release the hardware specs.
The reason there hasnt been a freeze is that its really to soon in the development process to do so. The kernel isnt stable enough yet and a freeze would put an end to much of the development. When the kernel stabilize (development) there will be a frozen api but today it would only be in the way of things to come.
This is a myth from people who think like a company. The only thing linux really needs to survive is users who like it or want to change linux into something they like.
If linux becomes oh so unpopular what is it to say that no one just takes the codebase and make something new and better? I think the cat is out of the bag now and thanks to OSS the applications barrier to entry is officially dead or atleast very small compared to how things looked a couple of years ago.
Without the applications barrier MS has no real advantage over anything else.
Ehhr, no.
The more light on this the better. Because so much of *nix is really a standard the more sources for the same code we can dig up the better. Reverse engineering is not illegal (except in US of DMCA perhaps) and is not something to be frightened of. If you can show many examples of this code in a manual or some puplic form it will be very hard not to say impossible for SCO to claim any rights to it. It would be like having copyright on a phonebooks content, ie someone having a copyright on YOUR phone number.
The amount of light on this from the OSS community is something new. Never ever have we seen a case so totally dissected even before it goes to trial. If groklaw keeps this up the IBM laywers can just sit back and enjoy the ride.
Hiding things is for people who have something dark to hide, like Bush.
Well as for apt-get or yum you cant compare those to windows update at all. First of all apt-get/yum updates every single application installed while windowsupdate doesnt even update Microsofts own products outside IE or MS-Windows. Had it covered atleast MS own products but it really is limited. Tried running windowsupdate from a script? Apt-get/yum is way ahead of windowsupdate in any way i can think of. And it doesnt cost you more than hardware to put your own apt repository up.
Why would anyone need exchange? Did you want a mail server or did you want Exchange in specific? You do realize that what you are saying is that you want the brand and not the function in itself? There are tons of ways to accomplish the same things Exchange does and most often much better and with cheaper hardware. If its one thing exchange does it is eating cpu cycles.
"For firewall we kept windows because the software we currently use performs much better on windows than Linux"
Well, duh? Sygate runs pretty lousy on linux too.
In 2005 every citizen on earth is tracked and monitored. Your government knows your every move and if you become a political enemy to the ones holding this power then kiss your ass goodbye. Imagine watergate if this technology had been present. All we would have known was that some journalist died tragically. ...meanwhile the terrorists dont use phones, the internet or ordinary mail services and go undetected.
Why put endless money into the holy grail of energy? We have solar, wind and earth energy right at our feet. Ready to be used at a fraction of the money it costs of getting nuclear power.
The only reason nuclear power is even remotley usable is that half the cost is put onto future generations such as waste storage and the huge loans that built the plants.
And can somebody please shut that fuckfuckingmotherfucking Bush idiot up before he starts WW3 in the name of god or something as stupid? Before the iraq war he had the whole damn world behind him and in some miracular way he has succeded in making the terrorists look pretty nice in comparison. The Bush administration is the biggest fucking threat to mankind since Hitler.
The more distributions started the better. I wish the best of luck to Bruce and i think he will pull this off.
I really love the cleaness of gnome and i do hope it wont get pregnant.
Software is not something you can patent because of fundamental differences in the nature of the end product and how it is manufactured.
Can you imagine someone patenting a device called "method for using a fork to emulate a comb" ? Well that is just what patenting software is mostly about. While when you patent a way to acheive a goal in real life patents you patent the goal in software patents. If i want to do A in software HAVE to use method B, very often because that is the obvious and right way. If i dont do it that way i have to take unessecary steps to get around the obvious solution, often by doing something different than i first set out to do (before i had even thought about how).
The patent becomes the gatekeeper to an end goal and not to one perticular way of acheiving this goal. It is all to evident that software patents is going to inhibit US development of software and give Asia and China etc an enourmous advantage.
I could swallow it if the patents wore carefully examined and very restrictive but the USPO seems to give patents out like the green card lottery.
I have one enormous Philips monster in the basement. It writes 1x and weighs a ton.
Its from 1991 and most certanly predates this patent.
You have just unpacked your shiny new P4 and you now stand with your old pentium in a corner. What do you do? Well most often that computer isnt tossed away but used as a second computer or given to the kids.
I dont think anyone is stupid enough to shell out the dough for an XP license to Windows XP on an old computer that cant handle the requirements. Since Linux too have roughly the same requirements as XP to be a smooth workstation it isnt likely being installed with linux either. A server yes but a linux workstation on a Pentium 133 32mb ram? I dont think so since most dists install KDE/Gnome default.
All theese old PC's is good enough to surf the web and write letters etc so people dont want to throw them away. They dont want to buy a brand spanking new computer either since it adds so little value compared to the old one if you are just using it so surf and such.
Until a real killer app comes along that demands a faster computer to do neat stuff on the net those old rags will linger on. The internet is still just pictures and text and nothing have been able to change that so far.
I have been thinking about theese patents fo awhile now. Copyrights and patents seams like a way to make something obvious and commonly used profitable. The question one must ask oneself is just why governments is so keen to accept patents as an end-all solution to keeping markets up in their never ending incline in profit. I think especially the US has confused development of products and goods with making money easily.
Because development = money they have gotten it backwards and think that money = development wich is infact quite the opposite IRL.
If there are shortcuts to money companies will use them instead of putting money on R&D. If you can get a patent on an obvious solution to a common problem you will be the gatekeeper to that problem. Imagine the state of the economy today if someone had patented the internet, the electricity or the cars?
Development would stand still and prices would have been up the roof.
The key to balance between progress and the ability to profit from progress is short timespan of governental subsided monopoly. I.E someone given a patent should have a short limited time to cash in on the patent. Thus making the development and implementation of patents the goal instead of like today, finding the patent with the most "users" and then just collect money.
Patents as stupid as theese isnt nothing but a nuicence until they are extended for 10 years. If it only held up for a couple of years it wouldnt matter. The timeframe that copyright and patents stands is what must be changed. Patents should not be something you pile and then just sit back. The original idea about patents is NOTHING like what we see today.
Then they have to start selling their products by reputation and by quality! Oy we!
Ads are just a way to sell things that isnt good enough to be sold by their own. A side effect of the ad-based selling we see today is the decline in quality in most markets.
With good enough marketing you can sell outright crap wich kind of makes the free market miss its best feature.
Those services are built upon GNU tools and has nothing with any kernel to do. Microsoft is merely packaging those tools to make migrating from *nix to windows easier. If anyone would pay for those they would be insane since they are owned solely by GNU.
That or they have a hidden agenda and the need for an excuse to add more to SCO's warchest until Longorn makes it out.
The vorst thing that could happen was for this to be resolved out of court. A court is a very nive place to get to information else unavaliable, like, for instance, what the fsck did Microsoft get a license for? The arent in the unix business by any mesure and i cant remember one single product that even touches unix coming from MS. In a court this kind of info might be revealed. If its apperent that they did not buy a license but instead just gave money under the table to fuel anti-linux FUD they will be hated, much more than today. Same goes for Sun for that matter.
The money trail into SCO needs to be resolved since there are some suspicious trails leading back towards Redmond.
Even if this is almost thinfoil-hat material Microsoft has pulled worse stunts than this before and under much less pressure than right now. They have a busuness modell that demands increased revenues each year and if the revenue drops even a bit they are down the tube. Id really like to know just how much stock is inside Microsoft and how fast people would sell if it stops gaining value in current pace.
By this i conclude that they dont have to loose any significant portion of the market to be toast. All it takes is a slowdown in their growth.
Wirh longhorn so far ahead and the impossibility for them to release yet another crappy OS again they have to slow linux implementation down until Longhorn is ready. If linux gains to much momentum now it will be almost impossible to stop, almost exactly like when Win95 was introduced and OS/2 came in too late.
When the .doc format is standard its a ok but when someone wants to standardize on something open that even MS can supplie with its wrong?
Talk about salespeak at its highest sleaziest level.
If you are in the position of buying any Software from redmond (Microsoft) and you dont pretend to want to use linux instead, you are just plain stupid! You really dont do your job then and should work selling fries.
As for me, price hasnt that much with the choice of linux. Its more about the fact that i find linux to be much better. I would even pay more.
Well most banks require certain browsers as do many uninformed websites with flawed scripts. I would presume that most users running into that kind of problems change their UA. While people like me bangs our head bloody trying to get into the webmasters thick heads to change the scripts i think most people change the user agent when his happens.
I have not seen many sites that doesnt render in Moz but i have seen plenty of sites that wont hand any code over unless you run IE (or spoof your UA).
Looks like linux has more heads on the desktop than Apple. Time for hardware companies to take linux seriously, seriously,
The next time some hardware company excuses the missing printer driver with linux small userbase point at this new info.
I assume most businesses arent aware of this and many of them probably only needs a pointer to some stats.