Re:Good! Now they can get back to work on CDParano
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Ogg Vorbis 1.0
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Unlikely. I'm not related to them expect by hanging around in #vorbis and having continuously listened to Oggs for the last six months, but it seems to me that they'll focus on Ogg Theora once Vorbis 1.0 is released.
Actually Xiph.Org's Emmett worked is a former Slashdot employee. He called them to ask them to refrain publishing any Vorbis story before the actual release. But it was last Sunday, so it seems they forgot. And now, he's calling them again, having some explanations for his former co-workers.:/
Slashdot is blind-rolling-monster that nothing can stop.
Lesson to be learned here: Mirror everything before announcing the release.
Tell that to Michael. The Vorbis team was mirroring everything when he leaked the story. The release has not been announced yet.
Re:Might be a bit off still?
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This post is old. Emmett said that on Sunday. And the release is happening now. "Days as opposed to weeks", as he said.
Ogg Vorbis 1.0 sounds better than ever
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Ogg Vorbis 1.0
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Try quality 0. Or even -1. Yes, you're under 64 kbps. 'nuff said.
The Vorbis Way
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Ogg Vorbis 1.0
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To quote irc.openprojects.net/#vorbis:
<xercist> sites are down, and staying that way until it's ready. period.
And slightly afterwards:
<xiphmont> Hello. Slashdot jumped the gun. So that we can actually get to our own servers, xiph.org and vorbis.com have both been taken down so that we can finish the release in peace. Or at all.
Argh Too Early
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Ogg Vorbis 1.0
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Just wait a few more minutes, the mirrors and the website are being uploaded.:(
I run ntpdate every odd hour to synchronize my system clock to five NTP servers in the Bay Area. Looking at the logs, it appears that my system clock usually gains 0.13 seconds between to updates.
Besides, once every month, I save the system clock to the hardware clock. Of course, this is because I don't reboot often. I would do it more often, even at every shutdown, if I was to reboot often.
And of course, I use my system time to update everything else, like my wristwatch, my alarmclock, etc. You can find a list of time servers in your area on this page. For more information about the Network Time Protocol, look there.
To quote the CNN/Reuters article: Timed to precede the U.S. Independence Day holiday on Thursday, the newly released image was made in two exposures, one in January 2000, the other in January 2002.
And what will everybody remember? That nice supernova that was photographed by Hubble the Great just before July 4th.
Nice PR job, NASA. I appreciate it. Sincerely.
Not the first time
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MP3 for Gameboy
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· Score: 5, Interesting
... such announces are made. I remember such an product being announced for the Neogeo Pocket Color.
Does anybody know if the maker of this one has a significant financial backing? Do they have a chance of making a well-distributed product, or will this just be offered on some catalogs and bought by geeks?
I know you are talking about speed. But your whole "I know better than the professionals" attitude just begged to be answered that way.
It makes no sense to say that hard drives are "the slowest thing that you use". This is completely not true and means nothing, no matter how many times you repeat it. The slowest thing I've used today was a floppy and a remote connection to my box in Europe.
Now that the graphics cards have been moved to their own bus, it's true that in most boxen, the "other" PCI cards don't take much bandwidth. That said, the SoundBlaster Live! designers have had issues with the latency of the bus. But the problem here is to put more than one drive on the PCI bus. I don't religiously read hardware site every morning, but as far as I know, hard drives have a bandwidth somewhere around 35 MB/sec. Put two of them on your bus, use them, and you'll be eating 55% of the bandwidth of the bus. One more drive, and you're done with the PCI bus. Oh, by the way, how can you call 35 MB/sec "pitiful"? What do you compare it against?
Now, I don't know "much" about the PCI bus, though we perhaps don't have the same idea of what "much" is, and I'd like to know what the reason for the unpopularity of the 64-bits bus is. But of course, your didn't lower yourself in giving it.
So, nowadays nothing really differentiates 5400 rpm from 7200 rpm? But there are 15000 rpm disks available, too. Why buy one big slow hard drive when you can buy smaller, faster ones? The choice is yours, so don't whine about it. As for the removable media, it has not been designed to be slow. Like anything in a computer, it has been designed to be as fast as possible, and it is as fast as possible, and as fast as your money can buy.
The end of your post doesn't make much sense, but at least it shows us how much time you've been around; not enough. Yeah, sure HD technology hasn't changed since the Pentium was introduced, you know what, it hasn't changed for 20 years, even. Yet, well, I prefer my new hard drive.
Since you seem to know so well how to save the hard-drive world, go work for them. And bring us faster and cheaper hard drive. It's so easy, I just can't understand why I'm not doing it myself.
... that Linux is gaining popularity among the crackers. This scenario is well known and has been explained for years. But it remained largelly theoretical until this year, it seems to me.
So, now we can expect people that mostly ignored us to come and crack our servers, install backdoors into our releases. They're probably going to write better viruses, too. I guess this is the price you pay when you become mainstream.
For years we've told the world how secure our OS was. Err, could be, once configured properly. The time has come, now, to do this.
HDs are currently the slowest thing in your computer, it is the ultimate bottleneck.
This means nothing. What about CD-Rom drives, DVD-Rom drivers, Zip drives, PCMCIA cards, Ethernet ports, USB devices, parallel ports, serial ports and floppy drives?
This is getting worse and worse each time, the performance jumps just are not present in this industry.
You are trolling big time, or you need a brain upgrade. Or perhaps simply you need to read the article. This industry's failure is that they improved way too fast. They increased the storage capacity by 100% every year! "Moore's Law? Yeah, you mean the thing we got past years ago?"
not until the manufacturers think of something creative in design
Yeah sure, those stupid morons are not creative. Every year, we tell them "There is no way you can put more data on this platter.", and every year these morons come up with new moronic ideas. Doh!
It took this long to get a 8meg cache drive, and we all know how cheap memory is.
Because of course a much bigger cache would mean a much better performance? I'm not so sure. Or else they would already have done it. You are playing a ridiculous game of "listen to me, morons". Except you're talking about very smart guys that know and take into account things you or I cannot even imagine.
There is serious lack of innovation in this field.
You seem to be a serious successful troll. Or a serious moron. You want speed? Buy several hard drives and do some RAID. You'll quickly notice that your PCI bus is very limited, though. We need 64 bits PCI cards at 66 MHz with integrated RAID controllers, and the motherboard companies are not even making them! Sheesh... There is a serious lack of innovation in the motherboard business.
Like most Slashdot commenters, I have not read the article before writing this comment. However, I feel like posting a quick comment. It describes what I currently feel about the laws and Internet. It's not argumented. It's not great, but I hope it can sparkle interesting counter-comments.:)
Internet doesn't need new laws. There are laws that punish the acts of thievery, of diffamation, of misinformation, of undecency, of conspiracy, etc. They are generally sufficiently abstract to apply efficiently to the Internet. The government and the judges might need to adapt the way they apply the law, but it's no the same as writing new laws.
Internet need new laws. It changes some fundamental aspects of our society. The copyright law is the first one that should be revamped. But it needs a nationwide debate, not a corporal sponsorship. Some assumptions about the act of publishing should be rethought, too. In the Internet age -- my, this sounds so pre-2k! -- everyone can be a publisher. Everyone should have the right to be.
Internet need labels. Everybody can have a role on the Internet that was previously only obtainable by professionals - retailer, publisher, advisor. Yet you can't expect everybody to fare equally well, and you shouldn't expect them to be equally liable. Labels should be instored, allowing someone to say "I am a good quality publisher. I accept that I am more liable than un unlabeled publisher. You can trust me more than un unlabeled publisher".
I'm sorry I can't write something more coherent; I'm so exhausted; I need to sleep.:)
I too was quite surprised about the missing screenshots. So, I made some screenshots of Eclipse/Motif. Copy them as long as you want, I hereby give away any copyright I could have had on them. Besides, they won't stay forver on my web space, as soon as I need the space, they're gone.
I have saved my mistakes. Now look at the ToDo list. And look at the red zones in the right editor sidebar, too. You can click on them to get quickly to the erroneous lines.
Installation, bugs, first impressions
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So, I downloaded Eclipse's 54 MB zip file. 54 MB! These things never stop to grow!
There were no installation instructions. Not that there's anything difficult, unzip in your directory of choice, do some file permission cleanup, you're done. Oh, and be sure to have a Java environment up and running - hey, it's a Java application, of course you better have one!:)
So, I start Eclipse, and it crashes politely, telling me to look in the log, and where the log is. Nice. A big Java stacktrace, how typical. A Xerces error. After some fumbling around, I understand my problem: I already had Xerces installed, and I had put links to the Xerces jars in my $JAVA_HOME/jre/lib/ext directory. So, those jars had precedence over the ones shipped with Eclipse, a custom IBM Xerces version. Well, ok, let's remove the links.
I restart Eclipse, and it crashes less politely, with a startup screen sticking around until I kill it, and an unsatisfied link error. A symbol missing from a library, now this is quite worse. After spending some time on eclipse.org, I find the solution. Eclipse is compiled against Motif, and ships with a Motif library. But ld doesn't know about that, and tries to link against the system libXm, which is provided by LessTif. Quite badly compatible with Motif, indeed. Solution? Create a startup script along these lines:
So, I restart Eclipse, and it works. Finally. A README would have helped. Very nice, clean, welcoming, and documented. Quite fast, too, faster than Netbeans, anyway. I have not spent much time using Eclipse, I have just built a simple "Hello world!" in Java. It's a very pleasing environment. All the usual tedious tasks, such as setting a proper classpath and environment are done through nice and powerful dialogs. It is a very professional environment; you can in a few clicks be ready to debug your project against several Java runtimes, there's a builtin support for Junit and for CVS. The editor is fast enough, even though I keep preferring Vim, and offers powerful completions, code refactoring, etc. All the problems and errors are logged in a very cool ToDo list, where you can also add your own entries. I like that.:)
Eclipse is written 100% in Java, so how does it come it is noticeably faster than Netbeans? The secret is in th GUI. Eclipse doesn't use Swing or AWT, but another toolkit called SWT. Think of it as an AWT version 2. It offers Java programmers a direct mapping of the system widgets. So, the platform-independancy of Swing is lost, but the gains are tremendous: you get to keep the look and feel of the platform you're running on, and you're much more responsive to user events. The version of Eclipse I downloaded uses Motif. And it uses it very well: it's one of the most clean Motif application I've ever seen. The main problem is that the file browsing dialogs are still the same ultra-loosy ones, which don't hide hidden files, etc. There's another Eclipse version available that uses GTK 2. And of course, there's a Windows version. And soon, a MacOS (X ?) version.
So, what's left to Netbeans? Well, Eclipse doesn't have a GUI editor, and it was one of the few reasons, along with its debugger, that made me use Netbeans. But now that I've seen the text editor and work environment of Eclipse, I might well drop Vim when it comes to Java development, and use Eclipse instead. Clearly, Eclipse enjoys much more support from IBM (and friends) than Netbeans does. The QA is much better it seems, when you look at the final product.
Yep, Sun... you've been Eclipsed!
Re:Lots more than that, and they are all indexed
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I wish I could mod you "+5 Supercalifrajalisticexpialidocious", my friend. Thank you very much for the links. My brutal solution had simply been to go directly to the images directory: the browsing is not restricted.
There are quite a few more photos available at the Prokudin-Gorskii Exhibition than officially linked from the pages of the exhibition. If I'm not mistaken, 111 photos are available, but only 61 are linked. How to reach them is quite trivial and left as an execise for the reader. Hey, you'll even get the chance to have a beautiful picture of Alix Chevallier!
"Whenever you type in a query, we're actually looking for the communities after you type the query."
Oops, did you let that slip?
No, he forgot the quotes, as you would have noticed if you had read the article. The sentence he failed to quote properly is by Paul Gardi, Teoma's Vice President of Search.
Slashdot Mirror
Look especially at http://www.vorbis.com/faq.psp, http://www.vorbis.com/download.psp and http://www.xiph.org/ogg/vorbis/!
Unlikely. I'm not related to them expect by hanging around in #vorbis and having continuously listened to Oggs for the last six months, but it seems to me that they'll focus on Ogg Theora once Vorbis 1.0 is released.
Actually Xiph.Org's Emmett worked is a former Slashdot employee. He called them to ask them to refrain publishing any Vorbis story before the actual release. But it was last Sunday, so it seems they forgot. And now, he's calling them again, having some explanations for his former co-workers. :/
Slashdot is blind-rolling-monster that nothing can stop.
I have encoded more than 30 CDs into Vorbis without any problems. This problem is really specific to you.
Lesson to be learned here:
Mirror everything before announcing the release.
Tell that to Michael. The Vorbis team was mirroring everything when he leaked the story. The release has not been announced yet.
This post is old. Emmett said that on Sunday. And the release is happening now. "Days as opposed to weeks", as he said.
Try quality 0. Or even -1. Yes, you're under 64 kbps. 'nuff said.
To quote irc.openprojects.net/#vorbis:
<xercist> sites are down, and staying that way until it's ready. period.
And slightly afterwards:
<xiphmont> Hello. Slashdot jumped the gun. So that we can actually get to our own servers, xiph.org and vorbis.com have both been taken down so that we can finish the release in peace. Or at all.
Just wait a few more minutes, the mirrors and the website are being uploaded. :(
QuickTime is one of the few reasons I reboot under Windows from time to time. Gotta watch that Two Towers trailer... :)
I run ntpdate every odd hour to synchronize my system clock to five NTP servers in the Bay Area. Looking at the logs, it appears that my system clock usually gains 0.13 seconds between to updates.
Besides, once every month, I save the system clock to the hardware clock. Of course, this is because I don't reboot often. I would do it more often, even at every shutdown, if I was to reboot often.
And of course, I use my system time to update everything else, like my wristwatch, my alarmclock, etc. You can find a list of time servers in your area on this page. For more information about the Network Time Protocol, look there.
To quote the CNN/Reuters article: Timed to precede the U.S. Independence Day holiday on Thursday, the newly released image was made in two exposures, one in January 2000, the other in January 2002.
And what will everybody remember? That nice supernova that was photographed by Hubble the Great just before July 4th.
Nice PR job, NASA. I appreciate it. Sincerely.
... such announces are made. I remember such an product being announced for the Neogeo Pocket Color. Does anybody know if the maker of this one has a significant financial backing? Do they have a chance of making a well-distributed product, or will this just be offered on some catalogs and bought by geeks?
I know you are talking about speed. But your whole "I know better than the professionals" attitude just begged to be answered that way.
It makes no sense to say that hard drives are "the slowest thing that you use". This is completely not true and means nothing, no matter how many times you repeat it. The slowest thing I've used today was a floppy and a remote connection to my box in Europe.
Now that the graphics cards have been moved to their own bus, it's true that in most boxen, the "other" PCI cards don't take much bandwidth. That said, the SoundBlaster Live! designers have had issues with the latency of the bus. But the problem here is to put more than one drive on the PCI bus. I don't religiously read hardware site every morning, but as far as I know, hard drives have a bandwidth somewhere around 35 MB/sec. Put two of them on your bus, use them, and you'll be eating 55% of the bandwidth of the bus. One more drive, and you're done with the PCI bus. Oh, by the way, how can you call 35 MB/sec "pitiful"? What do you compare it against?
Now, I don't know "much" about the PCI bus, though we perhaps don't have the same idea of what "much" is, and I'd like to know what the reason for the unpopularity of the 64-bits bus is. But of course, your didn't lower yourself in giving it.
So, nowadays nothing really differentiates 5400 rpm from 7200 rpm? But there are 15000 rpm disks available, too. Why buy one big slow hard drive when you can buy smaller, faster ones? The choice is yours, so don't whine about it. As for the removable media, it has not been designed to be slow. Like anything in a computer, it has been designed to be as fast as possible, and it is as fast as possible, and as fast as your money can buy.
The end of your post doesn't make much sense, but at least it shows us how much time you've been around; not enough. Yeah, sure HD technology hasn't changed since the Pentium was introduced, you know what, it hasn't changed for 20 years, even. Yet, well, I prefer my new hard drive.
Since you seem to know so well how to save the hard-drive world, go work for them. And bring us faster and cheaper hard drive. It's so easy, I just can't understand why I'm not doing it myself.
... that Linux is gaining popularity among the crackers. This scenario is well known and has been explained for years. But it remained largelly theoretical until this year, it seems to me.
So, now we can expect people that mostly ignored us to come and crack our servers, install backdoors into our releases. They're probably going to write better viruses, too. I guess this is the price you pay when you become mainstream.
For years we've told the world how secure our OS was. Err, could be, once configured properly. The time has come, now, to do this.
HDs are currently the slowest thing in your computer, it is the ultimate bottleneck.
This means nothing. What about CD-Rom drives, DVD-Rom drivers, Zip drives, PCMCIA cards, Ethernet ports, USB devices, parallel ports, serial ports and floppy drives?
This is getting worse and worse each time, the performance jumps just are not present in this industry.
You are trolling big time, or you need a brain upgrade. Or perhaps simply you need to read the article. This industry's failure is that they improved way too fast. They increased the storage capacity by 100% every year! "Moore's Law? Yeah, you mean the thing we got past years ago?"
not until the manufacturers think of something creative in design
Yeah sure, those stupid morons are not creative. Every year, we tell them "There is no way you can put more data on this platter.", and every year these morons come up with new moronic ideas. Doh!
It took this long to get a 8meg cache drive, and we all know how cheap memory is.
Because of course a much bigger cache would mean a much better performance? I'm not so sure. Or else they would already have done it. You are playing a ridiculous game of "listen to me, morons". Except you're talking about very smart guys that know and take into account things you or I cannot even imagine.
There is serious lack of innovation in this field.
You seem to be a serious successful troll. Or a serious moron. You want speed? Buy several hard drives and do some RAID. You'll quickly notice that your PCI bus is very limited, though. We need 64 bits PCI cards at 66 MHz with integrated RAID controllers, and the motherboard companies are not even making them! Sheesh... There is a serious lack of innovation in the motherboard business.
Like most Slashdot commenters, I have not read the article before writing this comment. However, I feel like posting a quick comment. It describes what I currently feel about the laws and Internet. It's not argumented. It's not great, but I hope it can sparkle interesting counter-comments. :)
:)
Internet doesn't need new laws. There are laws that punish the acts of thievery, of diffamation, of misinformation, of undecency, of conspiracy, etc. They are generally sufficiently abstract to apply efficiently to the Internet. The government and the judges might need to adapt the way they apply the law, but it's no the same as writing new laws.
Internet need new laws. It changes some fundamental aspects of our society. The copyright law is the first one that should be revamped. But it needs a nationwide debate, not a corporal sponsorship. Some assumptions about the act of publishing should be rethought, too. In the Internet age -- my, this sounds so pre-2k! -- everyone can be a publisher. Everyone should have the right to be.
Internet need labels. Everybody can have a role on the Internet that was previously only obtainable by professionals - retailer, publisher, advisor. Yet you can't expect everybody to fare equally well, and you shouldn't expect them to be equally liable. Labels should be instored, allowing someone to say "I am a good quality publisher. I accept that I am more liable than un unlabeled publisher. You can trust me more than un unlabeled publisher".
I'm sorry I can't write something more coherent; I'm so exhausted; I need to sleep.
Well, that's it! Enjoy! There's also an interesting wiki about Eclipse.
You've been Eclipsed! :)
So, I downloaded Eclipse's 54 MB zip file. 54 MB! These things never stop to grow!
:)
/usr/local/java/eclipse/eclipse $*
:)
There were no installation instructions. Not that there's anything difficult, unzip in your directory of choice, do some file permission cleanup, you're done. Oh, and be sure to have a Java environment up and running - hey, it's a Java application, of course you better have one!
So, I start Eclipse, and it crashes politely, telling me to look in the log, and where the log is. Nice. A big Java stacktrace, how typical. A Xerces error. After some fumbling around, I understand my problem: I already had Xerces installed, and I had put links to the Xerces jars in my $JAVA_HOME/jre/lib/ext directory. So, those jars had precedence over the ones shipped with Eclipse, a custom IBM Xerces version. Well, ok, let's remove the links.
I restart Eclipse, and it crashes less politely, with a startup screen sticking around until I kill it, and an unsatisfied link error. A symbol missing from a library, now this is quite worse. After spending some time on eclipse.org, I find the solution. Eclipse is compiled against Motif, and ships with a Motif library. But ld doesn't know about that, and tries to link against the system libXm, which is provided by LessTif. Quite badly compatible with Motif, indeed. Solution? Create a startup script along these lines:
#!/bin/bash
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/java/eclipse
So, I restart Eclipse, and it works. Finally. A README would have helped. Very nice, clean, welcoming, and documented. Quite fast, too, faster than Netbeans, anyway. I have not spent much time using Eclipse, I have just built a simple "Hello world!" in Java. It's a very pleasing environment. All the usual tedious tasks, such as setting a proper classpath and environment are done through nice and powerful dialogs. It is a very professional environment; you can in a few clicks be ready to debug your project against several Java runtimes, there's a builtin support for Junit and for CVS. The editor is fast enough, even though I keep preferring Vim, and offers powerful completions, code refactoring, etc. All the problems and errors are logged in a very cool ToDo list, where you can also add your own entries. I like that.
Eclipse is written 100% in Java, so how does it come it is noticeably faster than Netbeans? The secret is in th GUI. Eclipse doesn't use Swing or AWT, but another toolkit called SWT. Think of it as an AWT version 2. It offers Java programmers a direct mapping of the system widgets. So, the platform-independancy of Swing is lost, but the gains are tremendous: you get to keep the look and feel of the platform you're running on, and you're much more responsive to user events. The version of Eclipse I downloaded uses Motif. And it uses it very well: it's one of the most clean Motif application I've ever seen. The main problem is that the file browsing dialogs are still the same ultra-loosy ones, which don't hide hidden files, etc. There's another Eclipse version available that uses GTK 2. And of course, there's a Windows version. And soon, a MacOS (X ?) version.
So, what's left to Netbeans? Well, Eclipse doesn't have a GUI editor, and it was one of the few reasons, along with its debugger, that made me use Netbeans. But now that I've seen the text editor and work environment of Eclipse, I might well drop Vim when it comes to Java development, and use Eclipse instead. Clearly, Eclipse enjoys much more support from IBM (and friends) than Netbeans does. The QA is much better it seems, when you look at the final product.
Yep, Sun... you've been Eclipsed!
I wish I could mod you "+5 Supercalifrajalisticexpialidocious", my friend. Thank you very much for the links. My brutal solution had simply been to go directly to the images directory: the browsing is not restricted.
There are quite a few more photos available at the Prokudin-Gorskii Exhibition than officially linked from the pages of the exhibition. If I'm not mistaken, 111 photos are available, but only 61 are linked. How to reach them is quite trivial and left as an execise for the reader. Hey, you'll even get the chance to have a beautiful picture of Alix Chevallier!
Instant power on and no difference between storage and application memory are likely to be killer technologies.
Especially if you manage to put your system in an unstable state, or an application manages to corrupt your memory... err, data.
I just saw the link on... Slashdot. Gee, these little side boxes are helpful sometimes. ;)
"Whenever you type in a query, we're actually looking for the communities after you type the query."
Oops, did you let that slip?
No, he forgot the quotes, as you would have noticed if you had read the article. The sentence he failed to quote properly is by Paul Gardi, Teoma's Vice President of Search.