Back in the 80's when my physics chops were far better I was sure they were on to something.
Just goes to show, that even in the scientific community, bias can play a part in what gets to the public. Just because they are scientists, doesn't mean they aren't human.
I hope those two guys get their due. They deserve it, and they took a ration of grief which damaged their careers. Fleischmann is dead- but someone should wrote Pons a check since he's still kicking around..
Considering there's more FBI UFO material floating around from FOIA requests than that for COINTELPRO, I have a hard time believing that all this stuff amounts to nothing.
However, what that "something" actually is... could be anything from "Greys being real" to "old vacuum cleaner bags spew dust".
Smart people know something is up. People who do not know the limits of their own intellect build folklore as fact.
At home I was severely physically and emotionally abused. At school I was ostracized and occasionally beaten.
The school part of it was not the kid's fault... I did fine in school until 2nd grade- when home events escalated to levels that really screwed me up. I was a cultural American-Italian kid in a Jewish neighborhood. And probably appeared kinda of autistic or "off". The abuse and being a social outcast lasted until I was 17- when a state agency rescued me and force my parents to semi-accountability.
CPTSD is a vicious animal. As I mentioned in the previous post- it happens only to abused kids and prisoners of war. For obvious reasons. But some of my closest friends now are combat veterans. Isn't that interesting? I never served.
There are a number of psychological conditions that I believe can be the result of extreme forms of anxiety. Can a PTSD survivor become schizophrenic? If a person is pushed far enough (as in schizo-typal illnesses) is this an indication of PTSD pushed to it's limits or perhaps turned inside out?
Can the abuse from parents create someone on the autistic spectrum? Can someone on the autistic spectrum be abused by their parents and have PTSD? Can autistic spectrum illness be the result of trauma?
All questions I've asked myself.
The bottom line is that there are facts that need to be reckoned with:
1. Abuse damages people permanently. It can put a person so far behind their peers that they cannot catch up. Even though I had success in my life and I'm now 51- 50% of my personal energy was spent dealing with one issue: Debilitating Anxiety. I wish that 50% had been available for other things.
2. Anyone can have PTSD. Even those on the autistic spectrum. For people who are "different" PTSD becomes more common. And it needs to be said: How we treat each other effects our health.
3. Does abuse cause these types of disorders? I'd say definitely.
I'm not a mental health professional. So I can only speak to my own experiences. But considering what I've learned about my own disability.... I'd venture to say there's a lot we do not know about these disorders and how to treat them.
In closing let me say that you did not deserve your abuse. That's not worth much- but sometimes it helps if we make that admission.
Myself and others who actually suffer from PTSD (In my case CPTSD) are always looking for a way out. It's a disorder caused by experiencing severe trauma- in my case the traumatic experience went for a period of 15 years as a kid. Child abuse victims and those who were abused as POWs are the ones who suffer the most from this disease. But remember this disease is caused by traumatic things happening around you, or worse, traumatic things done to you.
This is a disease that is inflicted on it's victims both others.
You never really get out of the PTSD symptoms... flashbacks keep repeating. Your current day relationships are held hostage to your condition. In some cases (like mine) it's accompanied by a sleep disorder. And the combination of flashbacks and lack of sleep can lead to psychosis. As you age you become unable to "tough it out" by staying up for a couple of days. So working becomes difficult or impossible. I used to be an IT executive.
Sure there are treatments like "Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprogramming". And they help a little. Or you can drug yourself out. Or just do the best you can and hope your loved ones are willing to keep you in food and housing. As a non veteran my chances at disability through Social Security are zero.
The only drug that has ever worked for me to totally eradicate the symptoms- are narcotics. If I can legally obtain them for another legitimate issue then I get to be normal for a few days, or a week. Norco and Hydrocodone seem to work the best.
So if someone told me I could get my PTSD treated at a pain clinic with narcotics- under doctors supervision I'd be there in a second. The hell I go through is shattering.
So- this new treatment is making me so happy. I want to get in on the trial... or try the therapy as soon as possible.
If you have a heart for people who are truly suffering. Please support these trials and be supportive of the idea. You'll be helping a lot of people.
Operation Paperclip was started under Truman. The drive to the moon was started by Kennedy: "We go to the moon, and do the other things, not because it is easy- but because it is hard...."
Of course Nixon approved the space shuttle, and Eisenhower approved Mercury.
But the point is- I'm not crazy- I'm educated. Not like you... you know... aggregating Slashdot's content because in a million years you could not put a site together with original content?
As far as I'm concerned- you're just a scab. You've created nothing- and simply attacked the messenger.
Musk and his scientific/engineering teams landed a rocket vertically- more than once. Something that NASA engineers said could not be done and was impractical. They were wrong.
Show me something like that from the right wing guys. Anything? What have they accomplished? Anything? Bueller?
Might be Tucker all over again. But every single thing Tucker designed ended up in modern automobiles. Every single thing NASA has designed has resulted in a new products. And every single thing Musk develops will also end up part of a product.
So right wing guys? What do you have to show besides rhetoric? Have you designed anything? Built it? Passed a science class and applied the information?
If the alt-right wants to start a war against science- good luck. We make better weapons.
This whole situation makes me happy to be 50 and have some health problems. Maybe, assuming things go really bad, I'll be able to get out of here honorably.
For educated people this is scary. At this point I cannot even try to explain the complexities of certain subjects to people. The anti-intellectualism runs so deep that just being an intellectual brands you as an outsider. This is not good for our society.
This is a dangerous time for smart folks. I could have easily ended up a climate scientist. Though in my case I chose systems engineering with radio as a hobby. Both rely on physics. Both require knowledge of real science.
The rhetoric I'm hearing could land some very competent and gifted scientists in some kind of detention. Defunding comes first- silencing comes second.
The problem is that people think these places have qualified techs. They don't (in my opinion). And they are not forced to have qualified techs because the customer has no idea how their appliances work. So they can get away with it, mostly, and not get caught unless someone actually looks.
The other (big) problem is that these companies engage in price competition so viciously that they cannot make money on what they sell- they have to make money on selling services that are essentially useless.
I saw this going on in the early 90s when CompUSA was petrified that Best Buy would be coming into their markets. First it was price match. Then it was sales goals (for non commissioned employees). Then it was selling extended service. Then is was in-house CompUSA credit.... Then PDAs... and right before they closed- phones....
Of course it didn't work. If you give up the profit on the main thing you sell, you cannot make it up with add-ons. So the company failed.
Best Buy took it to a new art form. Extended warranty, art of the up-sell, credit card sales in the isles, and finally the "Geek Squad". Best Buy is still limping along... not for long. I wonder if they are still doing jumping jacks before the store opening?
And Office Depot.... taking advantage of customers with fictitious computer problems and viruses. I bet they only arrived there after the extended warranty, in house credit-card, in-house tech services failed to make them a profit.
These kinds of happenings are rife in the brick and mortar retail tech industry. There are exceptions... but if all they do is compete on price- eventually add-ons fail to save the company.
Then the company puts pressure on it's staff.... then corruption starts.....it's predictable.
Regarding the tech industry, let's look at Apple Inc. I think that article misses a really big issue: Tech Manufacturing.
Trump stated that he wanted Apple to make it's products here in the USA. That might be possible with a system of tariffs. But the bigger issue is that type of protectionism would push companies like Apple out of world markets due to not being able to be price competitive.
Under those kinda of pressures I think tech companies might just leave the US.
Back when I worked for Apple we had manufacturing in Ireland. The decision to do so was based (apparently) on the cost and taxes associated with "doing business". The argument that this hurt American workers might be valid- though it did not hurt American business and certainly bolstered Apple's bank account.
For the tech industry it depends on where you want to place the pressure to "bring American jobs back"... If you institute tariffs, you can price the company out of the world market or drive them out of the country. If you are permissive about allowing companies to operate outside the USA for manufacturing you lose worker bee jobs.
Since the above is true, without a mitigating factor to be found, the answer is not trying to return tech jobs to the USA. Given the lower costs abroad it doesn't seem possible.
However, retooling the workforce through education, development of new technology, and American innovation would work- assuming that the situation with international intellectual property law does not worsen. It also depends on a lack of anti-intellectualism. Which is at an all time high at the moment.
So most of the issues up in the air with this new situation have to do with issues which are only mitigated by policies this president-elect does not support.
Old-school big-industry manufacturing is gone. It's not coming back. The only way to rekindle those kinds of jobs is through the development of new products.
Which means science. And we are not going to see much of that.
I hardly think that any of this will happen after the election this year. The country is going to have big problems internally and externally no matter who wins.
As much as I think the space program is a "must have". There's no way it survives for very long after this election.
It will be left to SpaceX and other commercial space companies to work it out. Or China. But the NASA is probably done.
Same thing that happened in the UK with Brexit: The right propagandized for so long, and so vehemently, that they created their own reality which is separate from the rest of the world.
They have their own wikipedias, creation museums, news sites, networks, religious views, and forums- all based on the presupposition that they are telling "the other point of view". But to separate yourself out society so far results in "us versus them".
And "Republican Jesus" is at the helm...
Most Americans have no problem with conservative views on politics and economics. The problem comes from social politics, separation of church and state, and the rejection of science. These issues are deal killers for the majority of Americans.
> The SETI question has large potential for positive change in society in general.
If by "potential" you mean where we learn that governments have covered up the truth for decades, that humans were genetically engineered, that we don't own the dam planet, that we aren't the sharpest tool in the galaxy by a long shot, that some advanced species treat as us mere animals and a delicacy, that every religion is man made, that our mathematics is extremely linear, that our politics is a complete and total joke, that our science is primitive (at best), that almost everyone has a false belief that "There is never enough", and that we STILL haven't figured out how to get along on a planet without money when animals have done this for millions of years, then OK.
Oh wait, you mean that cloaking, FTL, teleportation, and time travel is possible, the discovery that consciousness IS the underlying energy, that there are 6 fundamental forces, that we can heal every disease given the plant variety we have, that there are "levels" to consciousness, that white holes recycle the energy from black holes, that our experiments with high energy physics is damaging our planet, that the physical reality is only one sub-set, that money will be come completely valueless due to zero point energy, that creativity is the greatest gift that we can offer, etc., then yeah, we'll learn all that good stuff too.
-- First Contact is coming ~2024. Are you ready for a new cosmic paradigm?
No. I don't mean any of that. Nor do I endorse those views.
It's wonderful when science steps out into the fringe. Sometimes they end up being right or discover something useful unrelated to their initial inquiry.
I've no idea whether they are right this time. But this phenomenon will be studied heavily. And we'll learn more. Pure research, even that which seems obtuse, often provides more knowledge when it's conclusions are wrong. Even when Stanley Pons and Martin Fleischmann failed to produce fusion using a palladium lattice- there was knowledge gained.
Though I hope these researchers are right. The SETI question has large potential for positive change in society in general.
Well, I'm about to turn 51. As one of the tech people who have been in tech since the early 1980s, I'd mention that my generation protested, worked as activists, and put ourselves out there not only for tech issues- but also for environmental ones.
My generation (the boomers), of which I'm in the youngest portion of, can't help you younger folks with this. Sure we vote. But increasingly we are retired, or worse sick.
You young kids need to pick up the pace. We're not able to anymore. We did our best: you need to do better.
This is such a sad situation, as corporations are cashing in on the legacy of Gene Roddenberry.
Since his death, the echoes of his influence have faded. Resulting in a "Star Trek in name only" sci-fi universe. It's sad, but predictable. Personally, I'd be gratified if the show never made it out of the gate. The reboot movies were marginal at best, and we cannot expect much better from the series.
The re-imagined Battlestar Galactica was a psychodrama in space- do we want to see that aboard the Enterprise?
Yes I do handwave the issue- because it's a small one.
If you want to talk about big ones, I can go there as well. The US could deploy an alternative DNS system in days. Either with the current tech or something truly distributed.
That's the real issue. The press thinks this current attack is important. And what does the public do with this information? Are they going to revise the system?
If I had my druthers the whole DNS system would have been trashed around 2005 and replaced with a blockchain that would have a node density so high it could not be attacked effectively..
So if you think that's nitpicking terminology I fear you are far less competent on these issues than your low number on this site would infer you to be.
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Back in the 80's when my physics chops were far better I was sure they were on to something.
Just goes to show, that even in the scientific community, bias can play a part in what gets to the public. Just because they are scientists, doesn't mean they aren't human.
I hope those two guys get their due. They deserve it, and they took a ration of grief which damaged their careers. Fleischmann is dead- but someone should wrote Pons a check since he's still kicking around..
I'm interested.... but...
Hate the name "Ryzin" reminds of of "ricin".
Can't wait for the benchmarks.
Considering there's more FBI UFO material floating around from FOIA requests than that for COINTELPRO, I have a hard time believing that all this stuff amounts to nothing.
However, what that "something" actually is... could be anything from "Greys being real" to "old vacuum cleaner bags spew dust".
Smart people know something is up. People who do not know the limits of their own intellect build folklore as fact.
I wonder if the alt-right/SJW hunting guys will be as critical of the Russians as they are of SpaceX.
Cognitive dissonance is always entertaining... for a limited time.
Sorry to tell you- I'm pretty liberal. And the fact I speak out about these issues more or less defines me as an SJW.
Thanks for your post. I understand everything you said.
Hang in there- I'm on your side.
My experiences were twofold..
At home I was severely physically and emotionally abused. At school I was ostracized and occasionally beaten.
The school part of it was not the kid's fault... I did fine in school until 2nd grade- when home events escalated to levels that really screwed me up. I was a cultural American-Italian kid in a Jewish neighborhood. And probably appeared kinda of autistic or "off". The abuse and being a social outcast lasted until I was 17- when a state agency rescued me and force my parents to semi-accountability.
CPTSD is a vicious animal. As I mentioned in the previous post- it happens only to abused kids and prisoners of war. For obvious reasons. But some of my closest friends now are combat veterans. Isn't that interesting? I never served.
There are a number of psychological conditions that I believe can be the result of extreme forms of anxiety. Can a PTSD survivor become schizophrenic? If a person is pushed far enough (as in schizo-typal illnesses) is this an indication of PTSD pushed to it's limits or perhaps turned inside out?
Can the abuse from parents create someone on the autistic spectrum? Can someone on the autistic spectrum be abused by their parents and have PTSD? Can autistic spectrum illness be the result of trauma?
All questions I've asked myself.
The bottom line is that there are facts that need to be reckoned with:
1. Abuse damages people permanently. It can put a person so far behind their peers that they cannot catch up. Even though I had success in my life and I'm now 51- 50% of my personal energy was spent dealing with one issue: Debilitating Anxiety. I wish that 50% had been available for other things.
2. Anyone can have PTSD. Even those on the autistic spectrum. For people who are "different" PTSD becomes more common. And it needs to be said: How we treat each other effects our health.
3. Does abuse cause these types of disorders? I'd say definitely.
I'm not a mental health professional. So I can only speak to my own experiences. But considering what I've learned about my own disability.... I'd venture to say there's a lot we do not know about these disorders and how to treat them.
In closing let me say that you did not deserve your abuse. That's not worth much- but sometimes it helps if we make that admission.
Myself and others who actually suffer from PTSD (In my case CPTSD) are always looking for a way out. It's a disorder caused by experiencing severe trauma- in my case the traumatic experience went for a period of 15 years as a kid. Child abuse victims and those who were abused as POWs are the ones who suffer the most from this disease. But remember this disease is caused by traumatic things happening around you, or worse, traumatic things done to you.
This is a disease that is inflicted on it's victims both others.
You never really get out of the PTSD symptoms... flashbacks keep repeating. Your current day relationships are held hostage to your condition. In some cases (like mine) it's accompanied by a sleep disorder. And the combination of flashbacks and lack of sleep can lead to psychosis. As you age you become unable to "tough it out" by staying up for a couple of days. So working becomes difficult or impossible. I used to be an IT executive.
Sure there are treatments like "Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprogramming". And they help a little. Or you can drug yourself out. Or just do the best you can and hope your loved ones are willing to keep you in food and housing. As a non veteran my chances at disability through Social Security are zero.
The only drug that has ever worked for me to totally eradicate the symptoms- are narcotics. If I can legally obtain them for another legitimate issue then I get to be normal for a few days, or a week. Norco and Hydrocodone seem to work the best.
So if someone told me I could get my PTSD treated at a pain clinic with narcotics- under doctors supervision I'd be there in a second. The hell I go through is shattering.
So- this new treatment is making me so happy. I want to get in on the trial... or try the therapy as soon as possible.
If you have a heart for people who are truly suffering. Please support these trials and be supportive of the idea. You'll be helping a lot of people.
Operation Paperclip was started under Truman. The drive to the moon was started by Kennedy: "We go to the moon, and do the other things, not because it is easy- but because it is hard...."
Of course Nixon approved the space shuttle, and Eisenhower approved Mercury.
But the point is- I'm not crazy- I'm educated. Not like you... you know... aggregating Slashdot's content because in a million years you could not put a site together with original content?
As far as I'm concerned- you're just a scab. You've created nothing- and simply attacked the messenger.
Good job Opie... you've got a beautiful future.
Go ahead and have your moment. That's all it is.
Depends on whether you destroy him like you did with Tucker.
Musk and his scientific/engineering teams landed a rocket vertically- more than once. Something that NASA engineers said could not be done and was impractical. They were wrong.
Show me something like that from the right wing guys. Anything? What have they accomplished? Anything? Bueller?
Might be Tucker all over again. But every single thing Tucker designed ended up in modern automobiles. Every single thing NASA has designed has resulted in a new products. And every single thing Musk develops will also end up part of a product.
So right wing guys? What do you have to show besides rhetoric? Have you designed anything? Built it? Passed a science class and applied the information?
If the alt-right wants to start a war against science- good luck. We make better weapons.
This whole situation makes me happy to be 50 and have some health problems. Maybe, assuming things go really bad, I'll be able to get out of here honorably.
For educated people this is scary. At this point I cannot even try to explain the complexities of certain subjects to people. The anti-intellectualism runs so deep that just being an intellectual brands you as an outsider. This is not good for our society.
This is a dangerous time for smart folks. I could have easily ended up a climate scientist. Though in my case I chose systems engineering with radio as a hobby. Both rely on physics. Both require knowledge of real science.
The rhetoric I'm hearing could land some very competent and gifted scientists in some kind of detention. Defunding comes first- silencing comes second.
The American century has certainly closed.
Wow- again?
The problem is that people think these places have qualified techs. They don't (in my opinion). And they are not forced to have qualified techs because the customer has no idea how their appliances work. So they can get away with it, mostly, and not get caught unless someone actually looks.
The other (big) problem is that these companies engage in price competition so viciously that they cannot make money on what they sell- they have to make money on selling services that are essentially useless.
I saw this going on in the early 90s when CompUSA was petrified that Best Buy would be coming into their markets. First it was price match. Then it was sales goals (for non commissioned employees). Then it was selling extended service. Then is was in-house CompUSA credit.... Then PDAs... and right before they closed- phones....
Of course it didn't work. If you give up the profit on the main thing you sell, you cannot make it up with add-ons. So the company failed.
Best Buy took it to a new art form. Extended warranty, art of the up-sell, credit card sales in the isles, and finally the "Geek Squad". Best Buy is still limping along... not for long. I wonder if they are still doing jumping jacks before the store opening?
And Office Depot.... taking advantage of customers with fictitious computer problems and viruses. I bet they only arrived there after the extended warranty, in house credit-card, in-house tech services failed to make them a profit.
These kinds of happenings are rife in the brick and mortar retail tech industry. There are exceptions... but if all they do is compete on price- eventually add-ons fail to save the company.
Then the company puts pressure on it's staff.... then corruption starts.....it's predictable.
Regarding the tech industry, let's look at Apple Inc. I think that article misses a really big issue: Tech Manufacturing.
Trump stated that he wanted Apple to make it's products here in the USA. That might be possible with a system of tariffs. But the bigger issue is that type of protectionism would push companies like Apple out of world markets due to not being able to be price competitive.
Under those kinda of pressures I think tech companies might just leave the US.
Back when I worked for Apple we had manufacturing in Ireland. The decision to do so was based (apparently) on the cost and taxes associated with "doing business". The argument that this hurt American workers might be valid- though it did not hurt American business and certainly bolstered Apple's bank account.
For the tech industry it depends on where you want to place the pressure to "bring American jobs back"... If you institute tariffs, you can price the company out of the world market or drive them out of the country. If you are permissive about allowing companies to operate outside the USA for manufacturing you lose worker bee jobs.
Since the above is true, without a mitigating factor to be found, the answer is not trying to return tech jobs to the USA. Given the lower costs abroad it doesn't seem possible.
However, retooling the workforce through education, development of new technology, and American innovation would work- assuming that the situation with international intellectual property law does not worsen. It also depends on a lack of anti-intellectualism. Which is at an all time high at the moment.
So most of the issues up in the air with this new situation have to do with issues which are only mitigated by policies this president-elect does not support.
Old-school big-industry manufacturing is gone. It's not coming back. The only way to rekindle those kinds of jobs is through the development of new products.
Which means science. And we are not going to see much of that.
I hardly think that any of this will happen after the election this year. The country is going to have big problems internally and externally no matter who wins.
As much as I think the space program is a "must have". There's no way it survives for very long after this election.
It will be left to SpaceX and other commercial space companies to work it out. Or China. But the NASA is probably done.
Gosh... I'm trying to disentangle myself from Facebook... ... in a sense I'm actually dying to leave....
Same thing that happened in the UK with Brexit: The right propagandized for so long, and so vehemently, that they created their own reality which is separate from the rest of the world.
They have their own wikipedias, creation museums, news sites, networks, religious views, and forums- all based on the presupposition that they are telling "the other point of view". But to separate yourself out society so far results in "us versus them".
And "Republican Jesus" is at the helm...
Most Americans have no problem with conservative views on politics and economics. The problem comes from social politics, separation of church and state, and the rejection of science. These issues are deal killers for the majority of Americans.
> The SETI question has large potential for positive change in society in general.
If by "potential" you mean where we learn that governments have covered up the truth for decades, that humans were genetically engineered, that we don't own the dam planet, that we aren't the sharpest tool in the galaxy by a long shot, that some advanced species treat as us mere animals and a delicacy, that every religion is man made, that our mathematics is extremely linear, that our politics is a complete and total joke, that our science is primitive (at best), that almost everyone has a false belief that "There is never enough", and that we STILL haven't figured out how to get along on a planet without money when animals have done this for millions of years, then OK.
Oh wait, you mean that cloaking, FTL, teleportation, and time travel is possible, the discovery that consciousness IS the underlying energy, that there are 6 fundamental forces, that we can heal every disease given the plant variety we have, that there are "levels" to consciousness, that white holes recycle the energy from black holes, that our experiments with high energy physics is damaging our planet, that the physical reality is only one sub-set, that money will be come completely valueless due to zero point energy, that creativity is the greatest gift that we can offer, etc., then yeah, we'll learn all that good stuff too.
--
First Contact is coming ~2024. Are you ready for a new cosmic paradigm?
No. I don't mean any of that. Nor do I endorse those views.
I find it interesting that many people turned this into a theological conversation.
To me at least, theology was not the point.
It's wonderful when science steps out into the fringe. Sometimes they end up being right or discover something useful unrelated to their initial inquiry.
I've no idea whether they are right this time. But this phenomenon will be studied heavily. And we'll learn more. Pure research, even that which seems obtuse, often provides more knowledge when it's conclusions are wrong. Even when Stanley Pons and Martin Fleischmann failed to produce fusion using a palladium lattice- there was knowledge gained.
Though I hope these researchers are right. The SETI question has large potential for positive change in society in general.
Well, I'm about to turn 51. As one of the tech people who have been in tech since the early 1980s, I'd mention that my generation protested, worked as activists, and put ourselves out there not only for tech issues- but also for environmental ones.
My generation (the boomers), of which I'm in the youngest portion of, can't help you younger folks with this. Sure we vote. But increasingly we are retired, or worse sick.
You young kids need to pick up the pace. We're not able to anymore. We did our best: you need to do better.
You've been warned.
This is such a sad situation, as corporations are cashing in on the legacy of Gene Roddenberry.
Since his death, the echoes of his influence have faded. Resulting in a "Star Trek in name only" sci-fi universe. It's sad, but predictable. Personally, I'd be gratified if the show never made it out of the gate. The reboot movies were marginal at best, and we cannot expect much better from the series.
The re-imagined Battlestar Galactica was a psychodrama in space- do we want to see that aboard the Enterprise?
Yes I do handwave the issue- because it's a small one.
If you want to talk about big ones, I can go there as well. The US could deploy an alternative DNS system in days. Either with the current tech or something truly distributed.
That's the real issue. The press thinks this current attack is important. And what does the public do with this information? Are they going to revise the system?
If I had my druthers the whole DNS system would have been trashed around 2005 and replaced with a blockchain that would have a node density so high it could not be attacked effectively..
So if you think that's nitpicking terminology I fear you are far less competent on these issues than your low number on this site would infer you to be.
I so totally agree.... I'd mod you up but I posted and can't.