Just want to share my experience with Metro (although this is slightly off-topic).
I use it every time I travel to Europe, and their coverage and update-rate is truly amazing. Specially Paris and most German cities. The "tourist" version of some cities even has the admittance price for points of interest (like museums).
I use the PalmOS version in my Tungsten|W though.
If you're planing a trip to Europe, check the Metro website.
I work in a 30+ people open-plan office. We all work in development. The noise is sooooo distracting that most of us use a headphone all day long.
Some of our daily tasks require that we talk to our counterparts in Germany, mostly through IM.
Now, you see, since the noise really upsets us to the point that we almost never take our headphones off (yay to my earing health) and since we are already on IM conversations, we just talk to each other through IM as well.
Take a look at this situation. It's so stupid! The open-plan idea is that we will be able to communicate more efficiently when placed in a face-to-face environment. Obviously, the moron who came up with this brilliant idea was hoping that everyone would never talk loudly on the phone, tap hard on the keyboard or have any noisy-habit.
We have the same efficiency talking to a co-worker two tables away that we have when talking to our co-workers in Germany.
The summary says that this is meant to keep the password from being spied by the machine I use to connect to the server.
Right, to protect your password from being captured by a keylogger.
However, I trust my home machine - which I manage - more than any remote server which I don't manage.
OK, but the article is aimed at your machine. If your machine is already safe anyway, you could simply type your password. I think we both agree on this (this was what I said on my first post).
So, I just don't see this having any use outside net cafes or other public computers.
I don't see a big use for it anywhere. If this technology were ubiquitous, net cafes would could have hidden cameras everywhere. Besides, we could simply grab the screen each time a website site identified as a bank was clicked.
True, but I was under the impression that we're talking about defeating casual spying, not a concentrated attempt to get the password from you specifically - and if we are, someone could just torture it out of you.
It IS casual spying. Just of every net cafe's client:-)
I think we both agree that this tech is close to useless, and that our argument was because you were relating TCB with TC or DRM (and they are not but far related). If that's not the case, please let me know.
Let me try to explain this again: TCB != TC. It has nothing to do with DRM (altough DRM has some to do with TCB, but this is one-way).
My point was that security is lacking, and that our operating systems today have no way of being completely secured. It was something like "Why, Oh, Why can't we have security?".
I know you're trying to be extremist when you mention a computer in a net cafe, but to be clear, nothing is aimed at securing a computer in a net cafe. Not the TCB, not the mechanism proposed in the article.
Simply because you'd have a hell of an environment to secure. Even IF you could have a perfectly trusted (not DRM trusted) computer in a net cafe, someone could just put a video camera pointing at you keyboard and monitor, for instance.
Again, please learn a bit more about TCB before putting it together with TC or DRM in the same sentence.
I have heard tales of malware that can grab a screen capture in the vicinity of the cursor at any mouse-click. Does anyone know if such a threat actually exists?
I've heard about it many times as well and even seen a proof-of-concept.
Anyway, it could easily be implemented, and that's the point. I think a good solution would be Deja Vu or something similar, with lots of information (tens of known pictures), so that you need to grab lots of screenshots before actually having a chance.
But even in Deja Vu, you're only delaying the attack. With enough information, it is possible to crack it too.
Why can't we have a TCB that is really Trusted? A secure operating system is all that takes to divert these attacks (granted it's easier said than done).
Could you please name what applications you need to run, and at which point they stop?
If it's not too much hardware dependant, maybe there is a way to run it on OpeBSD. It even has linux/freebsd/solaris/others binary compatibility (to some extent).
Post your problem and I'll try to help you (if you want, of course).
I've lived in Germany twice and I can say that I love it. Recently I got a job position there, kind of a dream job, but with the Nokia-Siemens partnership, my position had a great chance of being jeopardized (since they have a 6 months "Probezeit" and are looking to cut costs).
I've had the chance to visit/live in several different countries now (South America countries, most of western and some of eastern Europe countries and Japan). The country I love the most is Germany.
Once you know the language you can get a pretty warm response from Germans (I don't think they are cold at all), they are always helpful and polite.
ICH Herz DEUTSCHLAND!
The only thing that really sucks is the amount of taxes you have to pay on your income, but on the other hand they social programs really seem to work.
Enterprising but unlucky thieves, who likely didn't notice a curse inscription just inside the prominent doorway to the chief dentist's tomb warning that those who enter would be eaten by crocodiles and snakes, led the Egyptian archaeological team to discover the three tombs, which were unveiled Sunday.
I wonder if the punishment of the thieves could carry this threat on. It would be interesting if the penalty for grave robbers would be to feed them to crocodiles and snakes.
So now a company outside US cannot use credit-card companies to collect gambling money... so what?
Really, move out of US and sell "happiness cards". The business works like this:
1) User searches a gambling site; 2) On a gambling site, the user has the option to buy "happiness cards", for 1 dollar + postage each; 3) For each "happiness card" bought, the user earns 1 playing bonus; 4) To legitimate the business, the "happiness cards" are really delivered to the user's given address.
Oh, you too missed the point. What he's trying to say is that NUDITY may be a bad thing in Middle East for reasons totally different from PORNOGRAPHY (which probably is bad as well, just differently so).
To be clear, what it's being said here is: While NUDITY and/or PORNOGRAPHY may be bad in the Middle East, the US is virtually the only place where simple NUDITY may be considered as PORNOGRAPHY.
What is not being said: That NUDITY, which may be considered as PORNOGRAPHY in the US, is for itself a bad thing.
The GP just said that Americans tend to sort NUDITY and PORNOGRAPHY in the same bin, while in some other parts of the World people do not share this point of view.
OK, our jobs may be boring, alright... But I've read one book that lands much more on the probable-side of tech, that would make a very interesting movie: Neal Stephenson's Cryptonomicon.
I'd love to see it on the big screen!
Now, on the fantasy side, I'd like to see Neuromancer as well.
Pfff, most of us is so culturally challenged that we can't even choose our president here.
How dare you say we don't need to know about the geopolitics of the most preeminent and economic-relevant nations around the world?
This includes the whole EUROPE, at least 5 countries in ASIA, and I must say 2-3 in SOUTH AMERICA (these are continents, you see?) And that's just for starts.
And only if you're not concerned with Bio research, History, Global Economics...
Please, wake up and learn some more culture, and stop eating this "TERRORIST MENACE" bull with your cereal.
Doh! You think a commercial branch from Google in Brazil is so independent from our Google Inc.?
Legally that may be the case, but saying they don't have that info b/c it's stored in the US is just a way to buy some time.
The way I see it, Google is just trying to be perceived as responsible with private information of its users, but it's forgetting that it's a child porn case, with plain visible proofs of violation (no pun intended) of the law in Brazil (and also in the US for that matter).
If Google wants to show so much responsibility, they should form an Ethics Committee and ponder whether releasing info that would help put some serious criminals behind bars should be done or not. If you have the chance, take a look at some Child Porn communities in Orkut, and see how its users openly perpetuate this illegal practice.
This is completely true. I've taught at a poor comunity in South America whose members were able to provide for their basic needs, like water (pit) and food (familiar agriculture and livestock), but were clearly lacking in education.
The problem lies basically at bringing the information to them, and a laptop like this would create a path for the information to flow (it could even be preloaded with classes' material) and teaching means as well (it could have educational and interactive software).
I think that basic needs MUST be addressed first, but if you want these people to progress in the society, the only way to achieve this is through education.
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Just want to share my experience with Metro (although this is slightly off-topic).
I use it every time I travel to Europe, and their coverage and update-rate is truly amazing. Specially Paris and most German cities. The "tourist" version of some cities even has the admittance price for points of interest (like museums).
I use the PalmOS version in my Tungsten|W though.
If you're planing a trip to Europe, check the Metro website.
OK, you can argue that he was a Brazilian, but don't forget that he got most of his education in France.
I work in a 30+ people open-plan office. We all work in development. The noise is sooooo distracting that most of us use a headphone all day long.
Some of our daily tasks require that we talk to our counterparts in Germany, mostly through IM.
Now, you see, since the noise really upsets us to the point that we almost never take our headphones off (yay to my earing health) and since we are already on IM conversations, we just talk to each other through IM as well.
Take a look at this situation. It's so stupid! The open-plan idea is that we will be able to communicate more efficiently when placed in a face-to-face environment. Obviously, the moron who came up with this brilliant idea was hoping that everyone would never talk loudly on the phone, tap hard on the keyboard or have any noisy-habit.
We have the same efficiency talking to a co-worker two tables away that we have when talking to our co-workers in Germany.
Right, to protect your password from being captured by a keylogger.
OK, but the article is aimed at your machine. If your machine is already safe anyway, you could simply type your password. I think we both agree on this (this was what I said on my first post).
I don't see a big use for it anywhere. If this technology were ubiquitous, net cafes would could have hidden cameras everywhere. Besides, we could simply grab the screen each time a website site identified as a bank was clicked.
It IS casual spying. Just of every net cafe's client
I think we both agree that this tech is close to useless, and that our argument was because you were relating TCB with TC or DRM (and they are not but far related). If that's not the case, please let me know.
Let me try to explain this again: TCB != TC. It has nothing to do with DRM (altough DRM has some to do with TCB, but this is one-way).
My point was that security is lacking, and that our operating systems today have no way of being completely secured. It was something like "Why, Oh, Why can't we have security?".
I know you're trying to be extremist when you mention a computer in a net cafe, but to be clear, nothing is aimed at securing a computer in a net cafe. Not the TCB, not the mechanism proposed in the article.
Simply because you'd have a hell of an environment to secure. Even IF you could have a perfectly trusted (not DRM trusted) computer in a net cafe, someone could just put a video camera pointing at you keyboard and monitor, for instance.
Again, please learn a bit more about TCB before putting it together with TC or DRM in the same sentence.
Perhaps you should read what a TCB is.
In the TCB concept, all security mechanisms (including hardware) should be trusted and easily auditable. TCB != Trusted OS AND != TC.
I've heard about it many times as well and even seen a proof-of-concept.
Anyway, it could easily be implemented, and that's the point. I think a good solution would be Deja Vu or something similar, with lots of information (tens of known pictures), so that you need to grab lots of screenshots before actually having a chance.
But even in Deja Vu, you're only delaying the attack. With enough information, it is possible to crack it too.
Why can't we have a TCB that is really Trusted? A secure operating system is all that takes to divert these attacks (granted it's easier said than done).
Our language is a living thing, you know?
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: www.nlrb.gov/nlrb/shared_files/decisions/280/280-1 378.txt+unauthorizedly+site:.gov&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd= 3&lr=lang_en
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- USDoJ.gov
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- PBR.Ohio.gov
http://209.85.129.104/search?q=cache:heyK-Buv_mEJ
According to Google, it's the Social Democratic Party of Brazil. I think MG stands for Minas Generais, a Brazilian state.
Well, Google returns 10,800 results... good enough for me :-)
Face it, our beloved language encourages neologisms.
I'm quite sure you're trolling, but anyway...
Could you please name what applications you need to run, and at which point they stop?
If it's not too much hardware dependant, maybe there is a way to run it on OpeBSD. It even has linux/freebsd/solaris/others binary compatibility (to some extent).
Post your problem and I'll try to help you (if you want, of course).
Hmmm, no... this would be NetBSD.
Check this cool picture as well.
I could use a security-enhanced toaster at my office though...
I've lived in Germany twice and I can say that I love it. Recently I got a job position there, kind of a dream job, but with the Nokia-Siemens partnership, my position had a great chance of being jeopardized (since they have a 6 months "Probezeit" and are looking to cut costs).
I've had the chance to visit/live in several different countries now (South America countries, most of western and some of eastern Europe countries and Japan). The country I love the most is Germany.
Once you know the language you can get a pretty warm response from Germans (I don't think they are cold at all), they are always helpful and polite.
ICH Herz DEUTSCHLAND!
The only thing that really sucks is the amount of taxes you have to pay on your income, but on the other hand they social programs really seem to work.
I wonder if the punishment of the thieves could carry this threat on. It would be interesting if the penalty for grave robbers would be to feed them to crocodiles and snakes.
This functional language is so interesting, there should be more talk about it.
So now a company outside US cannot use credit-card companies to collect gambling money... so what?
Really, move out of US and sell "happiness cards". The business works like this:
1) User searches a gambling site;
2) On a gambling site, the user has the option to buy "happiness cards", for 1 dollar + postage each;
3) For each "happiness card" bought, the user earns 1 playing bonus;
4) To legitimate the business, the "happiness cards" are really delivered to the user's given address.
Suggestions for "happiness cards":
- Porn;
- Landscapes;
- Puppies;
- Funny babies.
Hey, House and Senate, stop trying to regulate dumb things, and try to get a grip on Net Neutrality!
Oh, you too missed the point. What he's trying to say is that NUDITY may be a bad thing in Middle East for reasons totally different from PORNOGRAPHY (which probably is bad as well, just differently so).
To be clear, what it's being said here is:
While NUDITY and/or PORNOGRAPHY may be bad in the Middle East, the US is virtually the only place where simple NUDITY may be considered as PORNOGRAPHY.
What is not being said:
That NUDITY, which may be considered as PORNOGRAPHY in the US, is for itself a bad thing.
The GP just said that Americans tend to sort NUDITY and PORNOGRAPHY in the same bin, while in some other parts of the World people do not share this point of view.
Got it, or should I draw you a diagram?
I've found your remarks so correctly stated, that I added you as a Friend.
Keep on informing the uneducated!
OK, our jobs may be boring, alright... But I've read one book that lands much more on the probable-side of tech, that would make a very interesting movie: Neal Stephenson's Cryptonomicon.
I'd love to see it on the big screen!
Now, on the fantasy side, I'd like to see Neuromancer as well.
I agree with you. I've been testing this new discussion system for a while, but they just added this moderation "feature" lately.
I'd rather have something like the combo with a [MODERATE] button next to it (so that I don't have to go all the way down).
Pfff, most of us is so culturally challenged that we can't even choose our president here.
How dare you say we don't need to know about the geopolitics of the most preeminent and economic-relevant nations around the world?
This includes the whole EUROPE, at least 5 countries in ASIA, and I must say 2-3 in SOUTH AMERICA (these are continents, you see?) And that's just for starts.
And only if you're not concerned with Bio research, History, Global Economics...
Please, wake up and learn some more culture, and stop eating this "TERRORIST MENACE" bull with your cereal.
Google should form an Ethics Committee and this committee should decide if they want to release that information or fight in court for upholding it.
Doh! You think a commercial branch from Google in Brazil is so independent from our Google Inc.?
Legally that may be the case, but saying they don't have that info b/c it's stored in the US is just a way to buy some time.
The way I see it, Google is just trying to be perceived as responsible with private information of its users, but it's forgetting that it's a child porn case, with plain visible proofs of violation (no pun intended) of the law in Brazil (and also in the US for that matter).
If Google wants to show so much responsibility, they should form an Ethics Committee and ponder whether releasing info that would help put some serious criminals behind bars should be done or not. If you have the chance, take a look at some Child Porn communities in Orkut, and see how its users openly perpetuate this illegal practice.
Well, they do have to give phone records to assist in investigations... I can't see how different it is to Googles case at hand.
This is completely true. I've taught at a poor comunity in South America whose members were able to provide for their basic needs, like water (pit) and food (familiar agriculture and livestock), but were clearly lacking in education.
The problem lies basically at bringing the information to them, and a laptop like this would create a path for the information to flow (it could even be preloaded with classes' material) and teaching means as well (it could have educational and interactive software).
I think that basic needs MUST be addressed first, but if you want these people to progress in the society, the only way to achieve this is through education.