and how's that? guns kill babies, steaks don't.
well i suppose if you beat a baby with a sufficiently thick juicy t-bone you could do some serious damage
Why do all you religious wingnuts post anonymous? Do you really beleive what you say? I can't see how anyone can honestly believe that garbage.
If you argument holds then Muslims should get school sponsored in class prayer as well and don't foret them cooky hindus and crazy jews.
Give it a break. Go in the hallways and pray all you want. Why does anyone need to sanction it, which EXCLUDES others btw?
Oh how i wish i could mod you up. too many swear words though!
I would really love some these "wackos" walk us through their individual thought process. I think it would be fascinating.
you are comparing apples to oranges. How you compare 8 years of experience and a degree to 8 years of experience. 8 years of experience to soeone fresh out of university is not a fair comparison. I work with many people without degrees who have equal or more experience than I do. They are not great software engineers. Sure they may be able to write code but without a great SE theory background most will be lacking.
You hit it on the head with your statement "because they are not content to control what they consume, but what we all consume". Good ol' American religious right forcing their morality on all of us.
You're kidding right? As you are trying to roll out a huge linux deployment you are going to hire some coders to do what exactly? Where would the analysis come in? How would they get this deployed this century?
Do you work in a large enterprise? The logistics of sending in some programmers to do whatever you think they'd do during a large scale deployment seems a little naive.
Brilliantly said. THe problem is under educated IT workers diluting the pool. Engineers, DOctors and lawyers all have professional organizations that prevent this dilution. Computer Science does not and it should.
Usually the goal is to squash competition so you can sell your product at an inflated price or sell more because of lack of competition. THat hasn't happened. IE is still free. Sure their motive may not be to give the people a great browser for nothing but this is another issue that makes the whole anti-trust case a difficult one to judge.
the point is not use multi languages on one project but across many different projects. i know where i work there are many different programming groups who use different languages. they write a library in vb that we, a C# team, can use no problem.
THe speed of SQL Server 2k comes from its ability to horizontally partition tables across a cluster. Its clustered and its cheaper. You need to compare SQL server is limited to clusters because it runs on Intel hardware. Since when isnt' cost important? and now clusters are shitty?. an oracle *nix solution costing 2x as much and not as fast is better? i am sure Oracle or DB2 might be the best choice right now because of maturity but claiming something is crap when its plain faster and cheaper is silly. If Oracle was at the top you'd be quoting the results. If you look at who sponsors tpc you will notice some pretty familiar names. larry ellison is just as big of a greedy bastard as bill gates is. Oracle has been over charging for its products for years.
You may want to look into the history of this all. Intel was porting to BSD with MS's blessing. According to people from Corel they were thrown cash to port to linux originally until MS decided the GPL was the enemy. I really think the whole shift by MS is due to diminishing returns on their OS's. What are the key parts of Windows? Media Player and IE as delivery mechanisms for media. Why do you think AOL and MS are recent enemies..NET (the strategy not the framework) is about owning the delivery mechanisms. AOL is afraid of MS moving in. AOL doesn't have control of a browser that has any market share..NET can't really succeed by forcing anyone to a particular OS. MS envisions the world as a "pay as you go" service. MS is moving away from the desktop. XBox was jsut the start of it. The technologies will converge. Telephone companies are starting to sell digitial cable services, cable companies are selling telephone services. Its all the same now.
Mono is not about competing with MS in the slightest..NET (the framework) is a superior technology. Ximian values it. Intel's angle i am as of now a little unsure. Think about this. MS lets whoever port.NET. They save themselves the time and money by letting someone else do it. THey have a huge headstart and in the end they get to have all the technology they develop able to run on at least 50% of all the servers out there. If Mono is poorly implemented when its released MS could gain more server market share. "We do.NET better".
You're kidding right? If its not about producing the best software how will it succeed? if the goal of OSS is just to provide options that's all most of it will ever be, just another option. there seems to be too much confusing of socio-politcal agendas and what is technically superior.
You think its a coincidence that Dell only sells Intel systems?
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It seems to me people are ignoring a lot of the reasons IIS and all that usually goes with it are so commonly used. Its there with the OS and easy to install and easy to start serving dynamic content with ASP. IIS is huge on intranets within organizations for all those reasons. Its easy to extend with COM and provides most companies who use it with all the power they need. PHP/Apache is not an equivalent to ASP/COM/IIS or.NET. I often hear uninformed open source friendly sorts pushing Apache/PHP/MySQL as a viable alternative to IIS/COM/SQL Server which doesn't help the cause. Comparitive *nix solutions are just as or more costly ie: Oracle/j2ee/apache. I am not trolling just stating the facts as i see them.
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and how's that? guns kill babies, steaks don't. well i suppose if you beat a baby with a sufficiently thick juicy t-bone you could do some serious damage
Why do all you religious wingnuts post anonymous? Do you really beleive what you say? I can't see how anyone can honestly believe that garbage. If you argument holds then Muslims should get school sponsored in class prayer as well and don't foret them cooky hindus and crazy jews. Give it a break. Go in the hallways and pray all you want. Why does anyone need to sanction it, which EXCLUDES others btw?
Oh how i wish i could mod you up. too many swear words though! I would really love some these "wackos" walk us through their individual thought process. I think it would be fascinating.
and that's a bad thing?
you are comparing apples to oranges. How you compare 8 years of experience and a degree to 8 years of experience. 8 years of experience to soeone fresh out of university is not a fair comparison. I work with many people without degrees who have equal or more experience than I do. They are not great software engineers. Sure they may be able to write code but without a great SE theory background most will be lacking.
and who the f*ck cares about scripture?
You hit it on the head with your statement "because they are not content to control what they consume, but what we all consume". Good ol' American religious right forcing their morality on all of us.
You're kidding right? As you are trying to roll out a huge linux deployment you are going to hire some coders to do what exactly? Where would the analysis come in? How would they get this deployed this century?
Do you work in a large enterprise? The logistics of sending in some programmers to do whatever you think they'd do during a large scale deployment seems a little naive.
Brilliantly said. THe problem is under educated IT workers diluting the pool. Engineers, DOctors and lawyers all have professional organizations that prevent this dilution. Computer Science does not and it should.
Usually the goal is to squash competition so you can sell your product at an inflated price or sell more because of lack of competition. THat hasn't happened. IE is still free. Sure their motive may not be to give the people a great browser for nothing but this is another issue that makes the whole anti-trust case a difficult one to judge.
the point is not use multi languages on one project but across many different projects. i know where i work there are many different programming groups who use different languages. they write a library in vb that we, a C# team, can use no problem.
switch Borg { case 'gates': case 'ellison': case 'mcnealy': case 'rms': default: print("All Cut From The Same Cloth"); }
THe speed of SQL Server 2k comes from its ability to horizontally partition tables across a cluster. Its clustered and its cheaper. You need to compare SQL server is limited to clusters because it runs on Intel hardware. Since when isnt' cost important? and now clusters are shitty?. an oracle *nix solution costing 2x as much and not as fast is better? i am sure Oracle or DB2 might be the best choice right now because of maturity but claiming something is crap when its plain faster and cheaper is silly. If Oracle was at the top you'd be quoting the results. If you look at who sponsors tpc you will notice some pretty familiar names. larry ellison is just as big of a greedy bastard as bill gates is. Oracle has been over charging for its products for years.
You may want to look into the history of this all. Intel was porting to BSD with MS's blessing. According to people from Corel they were thrown cash to port to linux originally until MS decided the GPL was the enemy. I really think the whole shift by MS is due to diminishing returns on their OS's. What are the key parts of Windows? Media Player and IE as delivery mechanisms for media. Why do you think AOL and MS are recent enemies. .NET (the strategy not the framework) is about owning the delivery mechanisms. AOL is afraid of MS moving in. AOL doesn't have control of a browser that has any market share. .NET can't really succeed by forcing anyone to a particular OS. MS envisions the world as a "pay as you go" service. MS is moving away from the desktop. XBox was jsut the start of it. The technologies will converge. Telephone companies are starting to sell digitial cable services, cable companies are selling telephone services. Its all the same now.
Mono is not about competing with MS in the slightest. .NET (the framework) is a superior technology. Ximian values it. Intel's angle i am as of now a little unsure. Think about this. MS lets whoever port .NET. They save themselves the time and money by letting someone else do it. THey have a huge headstart and in the end they get to have all the technology they develop able to run on at least 50% of all the servers out there. If Mono is poorly implemented when its released MS could gain more server market share. "We do .NET better".
You're kidding right? If its not about producing the best software how will it succeed? if the goal of OSS is just to provide options that's all most of it will ever be, just another option. there seems to be too much confusing of socio-politcal agendas and what is technically superior.
You think its a coincidence that Dell only sells Intel systems?
It seems to me people are ignoring a lot of the reasons IIS and all that usually goes with it are so commonly used. Its there with the OS and easy to install and easy to start serving dynamic content with ASP. IIS is huge on intranets within organizations for all those reasons. Its easy to extend with COM and provides most companies who use it with all the power they need. PHP/Apache is not an equivalent to ASP/COM/IIS or .NET. I often hear uninformed open source friendly sorts pushing Apache/PHP/MySQL as a viable alternative to IIS/COM/SQL Server which doesn't help the cause. Comparitive *nix solutions are just as or more costly ie: Oracle/j2ee/apache. I am not trolling just stating the facts as i see them.