there will pass a long time before you will see a GNU/woman..
women are more like windows... 1) you will NEVER see the source (and once you do you realize its only a part of the whole stuff) 2) most women are NO community project 3) even if they do come with a manual there wont be a single useful letter in there 4) 'plug&play' 5) (almost) everyone loves the great ui 6) occasional crashes 7) they need updates regularely (buy stuff) 8) they also have a recent list (of your wrongdoings)
As an American, I support Australia in this. I expect other countries to respect the sovereignty (and thus would be thoroughly pissed if the US government handed over a US citizen to *any* international "authority")--and insist that we respect the sovereignty of the other nations.
like.... iraq?
invading a country and then extracting people from there, without a court, not even an american one.
Come on x86ers, save up for a Mac (even a used one) and get more stuff done more enjoyably. If you're going to spend $ on new hardware (which Longhorn will surely require for 95% of the pop.), don't run the risk of it not working with your setup.. and you can still run *nix or a BSD.
except for the fact that a mac costs about 4 times as much as an equally fast x86. not even talking about most games which dont work on macs
so atleast ill stay on my x86 dual booting linux and windows and keeping my costs down, although i do admit that i really would like to try that osx once.
"How are you suppose to correct these apps? I bet some don't even have company's behind them anymore."
simple: Manager: oh no application x doesnt work anymore what do we do now? Microsoft: hey look we have just the right software for you! you just need to sign this eula, register online, live with the fact of 'a few' security holes, high cost,.....
but with linux there is at least two big differences:
you are not fixed to xandros, i use debian and can (and atleast did) boot 2.2 2.4 2.5 and 2.6 series kernels, so just switch your distro to one that fits your needs better.
also check when the last security stuff for the windows 95 generation (95,98,me) and older nt's (4 and downwards) was released. on the other hand even the 2.0 kernel is still maintained and updated.
add: deb http://www.tux.org/pub/java/debian sid main non-free
to your sources.list and (same goes for j2sdk1.4):
kistl:~# apt-get install j2re1.4 Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following extra packages will be installed:
gsfonts-x11 j2se-common The following NEW packages will be installed:
gsfonts-x11 j2re1.4 j2se-common 0 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. 81 not fully installed or removed. Need to get 21.4MB of archives. After unpacking 54.6MB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
im not an expert here, just done a (tiny) bit of java programming but how would that be different from the current situation?
everyone can write new classes and include them with whatever they want, even microsoft. afaik the java classes are actually available as source so this is actually a non-issue.
iirc you can currently also write modules in c for java to use platform specific stuff (like the opengl stuff for java) so as above there is nothing that would change.
ms cant use the code now, cos they aint got it, and wont be able to use it if its gpl, cos they cant use it without publishing the changes.
but i guess the main point is not absolute security but to make copying as hard as possible until joe sixpack just doesnt care to copy but instead just buys it.
i dont know anyone who is not quite a bit into computers wo knows how to copy one of those 'wanna-be' audio cds, let alone copmuter games.
the point is its no problem for 99% of the/. crowd but remember not everyone spends enough time and effort just to get things going or else almost no one would be running windows;)
Yeah, PnP was lousy in Win98. But how good was Linux at PnP 6 years ago? WinXP is just fine on USB, and that's what would be used.
sorry to disagree with you but usb pnp support is definately NOT fine! I know of at least 3 cases where installing a scanner is a major problem on win2k (not xp, wont touch that;) ), if you do anything thats not described in the manual in the exact order (install software, plug in).
once you plug in the scanner BEFORE you installed the software (what you usually do with usb devices) you have a hard time removing any trace oft the scanner before its even possible to install the software correctly, which includes tampering with the registry (nothing a standard user should do).
clippy: just go to your nearest computer vendor and ask him for windows xp. once you got it, insert the cd and reboot. now everything will work like a charm.
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dont forget that by the time they can shut down just one warez site the code has already spread to a thousand others.
another thing is that i want to see them take action against i.e. a russian/chinese warez site hosting their code.
almost the only thing they can (and maybe) will do is start suing americans (i dont think they would care to start in europe, or any other continent) so that 99.99% of the people in any state microsoft has some strength wouldnt even dare to host their code.
(just check the hl2 leak, i havent really heard anything about a big suing going on by valve, but as i didnt really follow this one they might also have already sued some people)
just my 0.02
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there will pass a long time before you will see a GNU/woman..
women are more like windows...
1) you will NEVER see the source (and once you do you realize its only a part of the whole stuff)
2) most women are NO community project
3) even if they do come with a manual there wont be a single useful letter in there
4) 'plug&play'
5) (almost) everyone loves the great ui
6) occasional crashes
7) they need updates regularely (buy stuff)
8) they also have a recent list (of your wrongdoings)
i gues the next logical step would be to use some pep...
(pidgeon encryption protocol)
As an American, I support Australia in this. I expect other countries to respect the sovereignty (and thus would be thoroughly pissed if the US government handed over a US citizen to *any* international "authority")--and insist that we respect the sovereignty of the other nations.
like.... iraq?
invading a country and then extracting people from there, without a court, not even an american one .
now who is the international court?
so....
xp was just a debug build...
*ducks*
Come on x86ers, save up for a Mac (even a used one) and get more stuff done more enjoyably. If you're going to spend $ on new hardware (which Longhorn will surely require for 95% of the pop.), don't run the risk of it not working with your setup.. and you can still run *nix or a BSD.
except for the fact that a mac costs about 4 times as much as an equally fast x86. not even talking about most games which dont work on macs
so atleast ill stay on my x86 dual booting linux and windows and keeping my costs down, although i do admit that i really would like to try that osx once.
ever tried mozilla??
has popup blocker, increased security, tabbed browsing built in and all that for free!
so if thats no reason to change, what else?
so wait...
are you implying i should get SCO unixware?
yea but can windows protect its own memory?
(see blaster and the likes)
"How are you suppose to correct these apps? I bet some don't even have company's behind them anymore."
.....
simple:
Manager: oh no application x doesnt work anymore what do we do now?
Microsoft: hey look we have just the right software for you! you just need to sign this eula, register online, live with the fact of 'a few' security holes, high cost,
or what did you think of?
no microsoft would never do this, they would be sued for doing so, you know anticompetitive business tactics and the like...
but wait... there was something...
but with linux there is at least two big differences:
you are not fixed to xandros, i use debian and can (and atleast did) boot 2.2 2.4 2.5 and 2.6 series kernels, so just switch your distro to one that fits your needs better.
also check when the last security stuff for the windows 95 generation (95,98,me) and older nt's (4 and downwards) was released. on the other hand even the 2.0 kernel is still maintained and updated.
hmm...
add:
deb http://www.tux.org/pub/java/debian sid main non-free
to your sources.list and (same goes for j2sdk1.4):
kistl:~# apt-get install j2re1.4
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
gsfonts-x11 j2se-common
The following NEW packages will be installed:
gsfonts-x11 j2re1.4 j2se-common
0 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
81 not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 21.4MB of archives.
After unpacking 54.6MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
im not an expert here, just done a (tiny) bit of java programming but how would that be different from the current situation?
everyone can write new classes and include them with whatever they want, even microsoft. afaik the java classes are actually available as source so this is actually a non-issue.
iirc you can currently also write modules in c for java to use platform specific stuff (like the opengl stuff for java) so as above there is nothing that would change.
ms cant use the code now, cos they aint got it, and wont be able to use it if its gpl, cos they cant use it without publishing the changes.
Officer: I call for a script kiddie!
Bill Gates: NOOOOOOOO!!!!!
2 sec later...
133tH4x0rZord is 0wnz0r3d by script kiddie and slams Bill Gates into the ground.
how true...
/. crowd but remember not everyone spends enough time and effort just to get things going or else almost no one would be running windows ;)
but i guess the main point is not absolute security but to make copying as hard as possible until joe sixpack just doesnt care to copy but instead just buys it.
i dont know anyone who is not quite a bit into computers wo knows how to copy one of those 'wanna-be' audio cds, let alone copmuter games.
the point is its no problem for 99% of the
i thought /. was about NEWS for nerds, and this one is not news and especially not for nerds....
Yeah, PnP was lousy in Win98. But how good was Linux at PnP 6 years ago? WinXP is just fine on USB, and that's what would be used.
;) ), if you do anything thats not described in the manual in the exact order (install software, plug in).
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sorry to disagree with you but usb pnp support is definately NOT fine! I know of at least 3 cases where installing a scanner is a major problem on win2k (not xp, wont touch that
once you plug in the scanner BEFORE you installed the software (what you usually do with usb devices) you have a hard time removing any trace oft the scanner before its even possible to install the software correctly, which includes tampering with the registry (nothing a standard user should do).
just my
...hamster house that looks like a mini McDonald's playground
jeez... and you wonder
still better than if the office code had leaked:
exploit found in clippy, you cannot disable it anymdamn get the hell away!
no i don't want to type a letter!
[...]
Various games: ~500MB, ~5CDs
[...]
Games: Included in distro
so what?
ut 2003 included in redhat?
halflife included in redhat?
baldurs gate included in redhat?
sorry but something is wrong with your calculation...
ps:
win2k with office2k, iis, sql server, whatever: just below 1gb
so NOW WHAT?
(before starting to flame me for my biasedness: i use linux whenever i can)
why port such a substandard software?
for REAL bugs you need IE!
/me clicks on yes...
clippy: just go to your nearest computer vendor and ask him for windows xp. once you got it, insert the cd and reboot. now everything will work like a charm.
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[]Yes, great!
[]Yes, i want to know mor about your software!
just a thought =)
dont forget that by the time they can shut down just one warez site the code has already spread to a thousand others.
another thing is that i want to see them take action against i.e. a russian/chinese warez site hosting their code.
almost the only thing they can (and maybe) will do is start suing americans (i dont think they would care to start in europe, or any other continent) so that 99.99% of the people in any state microsoft has some strength wouldnt even dare to host their code.
(just check the hl2 leak, i havent really heard anything about a big suing going on by valve, but as i didnt really follow this one they might also have already sued some people)
just my 0.02
xcept for the fact that you can squeeze water from a stone much easier than evidence from sco ;)