Of course! After all, bandwidth and servers are FREE!
Well, when you consider that most mirror sites host the sfw for free, you are correct. I also host the software on my gnutella node, and I'm not billing Mandrake for the gigs of traffic I donate. It's another side effect of that whole "free software community" that you don't seem to understand.
Has anyone been compensated for loss due to Windows misbehaviour or, say, Oracle DB bug?
Man, no doubt. I was wondering if I was the only one who saw the incredible hypocrisy of commercial software representatives bringing up product liability. Yeah. Like that's not going to come home to roost one day.
So you're the one who buys boxed "broadband kits" at Best Buy. Did you buy your AOL cd, too?
See, here's what you don't understand about the Mandrake business model. Your use of the term "freeloaders" suggests that you subscribe to the theory that a specific cost is associated with someone using a copy of a software package. The reality (for both free and proprietary software) is that there are no incremental costs associated with the use of software. Mandrake doesn't mind its software spreading far and wide because all that will do is build community mindshare and serve as natural advertising. For each additional person who uses Mandrake, their costs do not increase, and the possibility increases that people will enter into a business relationship with Mandrake based on good faith. (by joining the club)
I don't see why he had the right to use Intel's equipment (servers and associated hardware) to distribute his message.
That's absurd. If he had sent a message to "all@intel.com", and by some horrible misconfiguration of their e-mail system, this distribution list was accessible from the outside, you might have a point, but Intel provided a means for the employees to directly receive electronic communications through the e-mail system, and it was this functionality that the sender availed himself of.
It is amazing to me how easily we dismiss the essence of free speech, when we come to realize the cost of that freedom.
I'm sure Viagra took a while to develop and quite a bit of money.
Well, no, it was a complete accident. The actual story is that Pfizer was working on the drug for use in dealing with certain heart conditions, and that the sexual effects were accidental. I tried to find you a link on this, but any google including the word Viagra is a hopeless venture if you are not looking for marketing information.
Which leads us back to the recession. People were dumping money in dot coms right and left in the hopes of hitting the next Yahoo. It was a gambling mentality, and while it's easy to find the losers to have made stupid decisions, it really didn't look that way at the time. The thing that was wrong was the level of deception that was (and still is) taking place, both in terms of investing and purchasing decisions.
I would rather have a single new original movie, instead of tons of the same old stuff.
We're in a rerun cycle, sort of like the late '80s. Just pray to whatever you hold dear that the pendulum doesn't carry us into a chick flick cycle, like the early '90s.
Do you ever think businesses will return to extravagant spending?
Well, I've been in the IT industry for a while now, and I certainly hope not. What made the 90's bad was not the technological advancement and optimism, it was the avarice, the exploitation of the ignorant, and the mercenarism. People bought solutions because it sounded good while bragging on the golf course, or because their absurdly overpaid consultant recommended it, or because their ridiculous sustained growth pressured sales reps forced it down their throats. People and indeed very large companies made a lot of money with no meaningful work ethic nor valuable good or service to provide the customer. There were a lot of jackass cert mercenaries job hopping in the 90's, making 6 figures a year, who soundly deserved to get their asses fired, and I for one, was grateful to see them go. (Many good people lost their jobs for no reason, however. Such is the price of the elasticism of boom and bust.) And I don't think we even need to make the obvious corporate parallel to my individual example.
I am proud that IT consumers are figuring out they don't have to pay Microsoft every two years for the honor of using their crap. I am proud that technological efforts are directed toward useful result instead of name recognition or bragging rights. I am proud that the IT megacorp and consultant establishment is being questioned, and that in house IT specialists are being listened to (they are!).
I care about what I do, and I care about my customers. I find in these times that those qualities are in very high demand. From where I am sitting, the industry has never been better.
I must disagree. Modern games are brainless eye candy. My four year old actually enjoys playing the Linux games (the collection of puzzle games that come with Mandrake) more than Win32 direct3d flight sims and FPSs.
Yes, my four year old plays FPSs. This is because Serious Sam has hippie mode.
Okay, I did the salt extraction thing, and bought a droid, and got off the planet, but now I can't get out of the ship once at mitas (or whatever it is).
Cool. Now I'm having trouble dissolving the traffic boot. I can't seem to get whatever sequence of commands is required to squeeze the worm's guts on it.
You know, I am certain that if the FSF issued a statement about the impending death of all mindkind, it would be the same thing they have always said at any time about anything...
Slashdot Mirror
Uh, AOL - since when is AOL free?
I said "AOL cd", genius.
Of course! After all, bandwidth and servers are FREE!
Well, when you consider that most mirror sites host the sfw for free, you are correct. I also host the software on my gnutella node, and I'm not billing Mandrake for the gigs of traffic I donate. It's another side effect of that whole "free software community" that you don't seem to understand.
Has anyone been compensated for loss due to Windows misbehaviour or, say, Oracle DB bug?
Man, no doubt. I was wondering if I was the only one who saw the incredible hypocrisy of commercial software representatives bringing up product liability. Yeah. Like that's not going to come home to roost one day.
Stupid bastards.
The GPL is a license. The code is "owned" and copyrighted by its author. This is the only meaningful way the license can be enforced.
Congratulations. You got the joke.
So you're the one who buys boxed "broadband kits" at Best Buy. Did you buy your AOL cd, too?
See, here's what you don't understand about the Mandrake business model. Your use of the term "freeloaders" suggests that you subscribe to the theory that a specific cost is associated with someone using a copy of a software package. The reality (for both free and proprietary software) is that there are no incremental costs associated with the use of software. Mandrake doesn't mind its software spreading far and wide because all that will do is build community mindshare and serve as natural advertising. For each additional person who uses Mandrake, their costs do not increase, and the possibility increases that people will enter into a business relationship with Mandrake based on good faith. (by joining the club)
Those crazy warmongering bastards. Has anything good ever come out of DARPA?
How much does it cost to ship 50 freshly burned Knoppix CDs to NZ by Saturday? Can you give me an address so I can price shipping?
I'd lose my job if someone found out that I'd picked inferior software on a moral issue.
I guess it all depends on how you define inferior.
Very, very well put.
I don't see why he had the right to use Intel's equipment (servers and associated hardware) to distribute his message.
That's absurd. If he had sent a message to "all@intel.com", and by some horrible misconfiguration of their e-mail system, this distribution list was accessible from the outside, you might have a point, but Intel provided a means for the employees to directly receive electronic communications through the e-mail system, and it was this functionality that the sender availed himself of.
It is amazing to me how easily we dismiss the essence of free speech, when we come to realize the cost of that freedom.
I'm sure Viagra took a while to develop and quite a bit of money.
Well, no, it was a complete accident. The actual story is that Pfizer was working on the drug for use in dealing with certain heart conditions, and that the sexual effects were accidental. I tried to find you a link on this, but any google including the word Viagra is a hopeless venture if you are not looking for marketing information.
Which leads us back to the recession. People were dumping money in dot coms right and left in the hopes of hitting the next Yahoo. It was a gambling mentality, and while it's easy to find the losers to have made stupid decisions, it really didn't look that way at the time. The thing that was wrong was the level of deception that was (and still is) taking place, both in terms of investing and purchasing decisions.
I would rather have a single new original movie, instead of tons of the same old stuff.
We're in a rerun cycle, sort of like the late '80s. Just pray to whatever you hold dear that the pendulum doesn't carry us into a chick flick cycle, like the early '90s.
Do you ever think businesses will return to extravagant spending?
Well, I've been in the IT industry for a while now, and I certainly hope not. What made the 90's bad was not the technological advancement and optimism, it was the avarice, the exploitation of the ignorant, and the mercenarism. People bought solutions because it sounded good while bragging on the golf course, or because their absurdly overpaid consultant recommended it, or because their ridiculous sustained growth pressured sales reps forced it down their throats. People and indeed very large companies made a lot of money with no meaningful work ethic nor valuable good or service to provide the customer. There were a lot of jackass cert mercenaries job hopping in the 90's, making 6 figures a year, who soundly deserved to get their asses fired, and I for one, was grateful to see them go. (Many good people lost their jobs for no reason, however. Such is the price of the elasticism of boom and bust.) And I don't think we even need to make the obvious corporate parallel to my individual example.
I am proud that IT consumers are figuring out they don't have to pay Microsoft every two years for the honor of using their crap. I am proud that technological efforts are directed toward useful result instead of name recognition or bragging rights. I am proud that the IT megacorp and consultant establishment is being questioned, and that in house IT specialists are being listened to (they are!).
I care about what I do, and I care about my customers. I find in these times that those qualities are in very high demand. From where I am sitting, the industry has never been better.
I must disagree. Modern games are brainless eye candy. My four year old actually enjoys playing the Linux games (the collection of puzzle games that come with Mandrake) more than Win32 direct3d flight sims and FPSs.
Yes, my four year old plays FPSs. This is because Serious Sam has hippie mode.
Okay, I did the salt extraction thing, and bought a droid, and got off the planet, but now I can't get out of the ship once at mitas (or whatever it is).
Cool. Now I'm having trouble dissolving the traffic boot. I can't seem to get whatever sequence of commands is required to squeeze the worm's guts on it.
Go to the forested area to the west of Yoda's house. There is an available stick on one of the trees. At least - it looks available.
I'm not sure you're supposed to *get* a stick per se, but something important happens when you attempt to get one. Reply if you want more details.
Okay, how do you come up with enough money to buy a droid? I can only raise $200. I also can't find the key.
You have to use the survival kit that falls out of the pod. It contains a rebreather.
Has anyone figured out how to get the escape pod going?
That was the most pretentious chain of drivel I've ever had the displeasure of reading. I feel like I'm reading K5 for Christ's sake!...
A layman's introduction to the proper use of Irony part 1 of 17...
You know, I am certain that if the FSF issued a statement about the impending death of all mindkind, it would be the same thing they have always said at any time about anything...
"It's GNU/Linux, dammit!"
No doubt. I'm still trying to figure out how the word "exploit" was derived.