I know about Elsbett. Unfortunately, I cannot use their kits, because my car has a Lucas pump, so I have to use a twin tank solution. The rotary design of the Lucas pump means it will fail when introdiced to cold, viscous veggie oil. I'm using the smartveg kit: http://www.smartveg.co.uk/
As I remember, Elsbett built an engine in the 1980's that would take vegetable oil with no modifications, but the automobile industry weren't interested...I wonder why?:)
It is perfectly possible to build a diesel engine today that can use vegetable oil, regular diesel or biodiesel, (or mixtures of all three of these fuels in any ratio) as fuel. The know-how and technology is there. So why don't the automotive industry go for it? Are they too deelpy in bed with Big Oil?
No it isn't, I think you're confusing biodiesel with vegetable oil. Biodiesel has solvent properties, so it will corrode natural rubber. Vegetable oil WON'T. Anyhow, cars that have been manufactured after around 1992 generally use synthetic rubber seals, so no mods are needed for biodiesel.
Incidentally, this is another good reason to run on biodiesel - as it has solvent properties, when you first start using it, it will clean out your car's fuel system, helping to keep emissions low. When you do start to use biodiesel, put in say 20%, then go to 30%, then 40% and so on, until you're running on 100% biodiesel. Keep an eye on your fuel filter, because it will get clogged with all the crap from the dinodiesel that you were using before. It's not uncommon to go through 3 filters on your way to 100% biodiesel (I know folks who have gone through 3 filters in 3000 miles, so this isn't crap I'm talking here) Dinodiesel (esp. US diesel) is full of additives, sulfur and other crap which over time clog the fuel system.
Once it's clean, it'll stay that way. You can even switch back to dinodiesel for the short term and back to biodiesel again, without it clogging the filter.
Vegetable oil and biodiesel are two completely different things, both chemically and physically.
Biodiesel is made by taking vegetable oil and adding to it a mixture of methanol and caustic soda (sodium methoxide), a process known as transesterification. ethanol (or bioethanol) can also be used in place of methanol
They are, however, both considered biofuels. Biodiesel (made to a high standard) is nice 'n convenient, since you can run any diesel engine on it, unmodified. Pour it straight in, and away you go!:o) Using veggie oil requires some sort of mod to the engine
(methanol is itself made from natural gas, a fossil fuel..)
Diesel engines were designed to run on vegetable oil in the first place; Rudolph Diesel demonstrated his engine at the World's Fair in Paris back in 1900; His engine was running on peanut oil.
In fact my own car has been adapted to run on vegetable oil, (either used or fresh) I collect used oil and filter it in my back yard, down to 5 microns. My car runs just great on it, absolutely no difference in performance, and I'm sill getting the same mileage, around 45mpg (US) or 55mpg(UK). My car's exhaust smells a LOT nicer (sort of a popcorn, or hot oil 'flavor'), and vegetable oil is a cleaner burning fuel, so emissions are lower. And of course, it's carbon neutral:o)
I guess there are enough takeaways, restaurants and other food places in my town to power at least 100 diesel cars; in fact I have more oil than I can process right now, so I'm looking to expand my filtering operations. A friend of mine is doing the same, at his place of work, they have a canteen, and they're getting through more oil than he needs. the places that we're getting it from, are more than happy for us to take it away, because they have to pay to have it taken away, and we'll do it for free...
now that I've gone veggie, I won't be going back. The heat exchanger kit that is installed in my car can easily be taken out and fitted into my next car.
It's a win win situation:
We're using a waste product that was grown locally
It's cheaper (as in free!)
We're not funding Big Oil, who are themselves supporting dodgy, corrupt, undemocratic and/or unstable regimes.
There are some strong economic, political and ethical reasons to run on vegetable oil. For me, it's a no-brainer:o)
What a shame she signed the bill that took the UK into Iraq in 2003. She would have had support of the majority of the country if she had done that, and Tony Bliar would have been out on his ear....
Already there, brother. Linux has moved in on my systems at home quite happily...laptop, server, desktop (dual booted with windows 2000)
I have absolutely no need to 'upgrade' Windows Ex Pee and it's childish, cumbersome interface, and even less reason to try Vista. If I ever do buy a whole PC with Vista pre-installed, it'll get wiped on first boot and Linux/windows 2000 installed in its place. I'm so not interested in Vista I won't even boot into it first time. That SuSE DVD is going in right after I change the BIOS to boot from DVD...
Want to know why windows 2000 was my last MS operating system, and why I've migrated to Linux? PRODUCT ACTIVATION!!! Thank you, Microsoft.
What's stopping someone from changing the date in the BIOS to, say, september 24th, 1990, then doing a clean install? If Vista thinks it's still 1990, and you make sure it doesn't phone home for the correct date, will you have 17 years worth of use?
Diesels will run on veggie oil, new or used. In fact a diesel will run on a wide variety of fuel - even 100% gasoline/petrol (for a *very* short time before the injector pump goes bang). A German company called Elsbett built a diesel specifically to run on veggie oil. Guess what...the auto companies weren't interested... The key to running a diesel on veggie is knowing what type of injector pump it has. The rotary type - Lucas/CAV and their clones do not tolerate veggie oil at all well; these pumps rely on the diesel fuel for lubrication. At normal temperatures, veggie oil is too thick to flow around the rotor heads, so it invariably siezes and breaks. Bosch pumps atre much more tolerant of veggie oil, coz they have their own lubrication system.
You can convert a diesel running with eirther pump.
For a diesel with a Lucas pump, a two tank solution is needed, along with the fitting of a heat exchanger and three way solenoid switch. A small 22 litre jerry can goes in the boot, which is filled with regular dino diesel or biodiesel. Veggie oil goes into the original tank. Start the engine up on regular diesel, first get the engine and injector pump warm, get the fuel hot via the exchanger, then flick a switch on your dash and run on veggie oil. At about 70 degrees C, veggie oil has the viscosity approaching that of dino diesel, and the now warmed up injector pump can tolerate it happily. About a mile before your journeys end, switch back to regular diesel to flush the injector pump, ready for the next cold start.
Diesels with Bosch pumps can be converted using a one tank solution. This involves fitting new injector units and pipes that have been designed to handle veggie oil, and changing the fuel line to one with a larger diameter to cope with the added thickness of veggie (or by fitting a more powerful lift pump), and of course fitting a heat exhanger.
During a very cold spell, you can mix the veggie oil with either dino diesel or petrol to keep it thin, usually a 70-30% mix in favour of veggie oil will do.
My petrol car died at the weekend, and I got myself a diesel this time. Soon, I will be fitting a kit to it that will enable it to run on vegetable oil. It's cheaper than regular dino diesel, is renewable and CO2 neutral.
Agreed. In my opinion, W2k was the only decent OS that Microsoft ever put out. It all went to hell in a hand cart when Ex Pee came out. W2k is the last OS from MS that I will use at home. I have now converted two PCs at home to run Linux and another one to run W2k...they all came with Ex Pee pre-installed. They got wiped the day they arrived, and it will be the case when I get new PCs in the future that will undoubtedly have this Vista installed. I simply don't care for their products anymore.....they are....well boring, tired, and insipid. Nothing new here, except frustration. That Ex Pee crayola theme is complete rubbish! Why is it turned on by default? It's crap, so in-your-face, and it's ugly as sin....It's not what I want from a GUI. Why can't I make that blue/green crayola taskbar a different colour? Oh, I have to buy an enhancement pack to do that...But I can already do that straight out of the box with KDE. I suppose it's a sad day when MS think that's what they have to do to try and sell more copies of windows - mess around with the GUI and think it looks nice and pretty and people are going to rush out and get it coz it 'looks better'. And what's the deal with this new version of Office that has these 'ribbons' instead of the regular menu style? And now I hear there are going to be 7 different versions of Windows Vista, some with the 3D aero GUI that will eat memory and RAM like there's no tomorrow??? Christ on a bike! Have they really lost the plot or something? I think so. oh well, they are an irrelevance; they can carry on with their Product Activation, licence nag screens, whatever. I could care less for MS. I'm very happy with Linux on my laptop...I have all the apps I need running right here. Linux has come a long way these past few years, and I'm very impressed with it...I'm never going back to Windows now!:o)
That's just it - people don't need MS Office. I've just installed the latest version of open office on a laptop we got last week. It's the dogs bollocks! (That UK speak for bloody excellent) Why pay over £250 for a version of MS office that you can only install on one machine, when you can get OO for free and install on as many machines as you wont, and it available for Windows and Linux?
OO has come a loooong way since I last tried it; So far, I'm very impressed with it. Give it a go. Those of you who aren't using it are missing a trick or two!
Hmmm...but an engine is hardware, integral to the car... Now that would be analogous to saying "I want a new PC, but without the CPU."
An operating system is software, and not integral to the computer, since an entirely different OS can be installed and used. Similarly, If the only colour I can get is black, I could take it to a paint shop and have the vehicle coloured to something I prefer.
Point taken though. Replace that weedy pre-installed 1 litre four cylinder engine with a nice 3 litre V8!:o)
There are some, but not many.
When I was looking for one, I went to Dell and asked them for one without Windows Ex Pee. No deal. It was either Windows, or Windows.
Seems to me you can have any operating system you want on your new computer, as long as it's Windows, to borrow a phase from Mr Ford...
I've just bought a Toshiba Laptop. Unfortunately, this is coming with Windows Ex Pee Pro pre-installed, which I have absolutely no need or use for. So I will format it immediately and install Linux instead, and send the CDs back with a letter.
Perhaps the only way manufacturers will start to get the hint, is if EVERYONE who does not want windows on their new PC/Laptop, simply sends the restore/recovery CD (Since they don't even seem to include a real Windows CD anymore) back with a letter explaining why, instead of grumbling quietly and reformatting the hard drive. If manufacturers start getting back a significant percentage of these CDs and explainatory letters, they might do something. After all, we are their customers, and customer is always right?
But what really pisses me off is that there's no way anymore to get a refund for the non use of Windows OEM Licence on a new system. It just shows how inflexible the current system is, and it doesn't make sense, either. They can save that licence for use on another PC, and give the customer a discount for not taking Windows. As a customer, I want choice. If I want a new car, I want to have it in the colour of my choice, not just black.
Oh well, this will be the third Home PC/Laptop that will have Windows Ex Pee wiped from the drive and Linux installed instead.
Perhaps you should try Windows 2000 intead of Ex Pee. It uses less memory (32Mb minimum) and CPU (Pentium 133) than Ex Pee, and is just as reliable, all without that crap Crayola/Fisher-Price interface:o)
I've just started putting an impact crater site together - starting with the largest and oldest known structure, Vredefort, in South Africa....You'll find it on Google Earth too, but I have several vector layers and so far 5 different raster data sets that GE doesn't have:)
it runs off Mapserver.
BN: The browser landscape has changed a lot in the past two years. Security threats, RSS and AJAX, for example. Where does Microsoft see the market headed and is IE7 a pioneer in this area or a follower? On the outside, it seems like many of the new IE7 features have long been offered in alternate browsers. Is Microsoft playing catch up or are you breaking new ground?
GS: I think you can make a fair case that we're doing a little of both. There were clearly some areas that the early adopters had been using in alternative products for a while. Tabs is probably the primary one. And we fielded a number of questions and even complaints from customers saying "When are you going to give us tabbed browsing in IE." Now we've done that; IE7 has a very, very good tab implementation. There are many users out there who are still using IE6 and have never tried tabbed browsing, and we think when they get exposed to it in IE7 they'll think it's very cool.
I had to laugh when I read this. It's nice to see MS catching up with what we've been using for years. Welcome to the party, guys! you're only several years late!:o) The fact reamins IE will never be as innovative as Firefox, simply because it isn't open source. It will never have the vast amount of features that FF has, nor will it be as customisable, because the only people who can make IE a better browser are the minority who work for MS. I think they will have a hard battle trying to get people back who made the switch away from IE. Anyway, good luck to em. This may actually make IE into a half decent browser. Perhaps MS can learn from this, in that a little competition is a *good* thing? Not that I'd ever be trying it anytime soon - it does not look like there will be a version of IE7 for Windows 2000 and Linux.
LOL.....Have a look here to see a real camera hack. There's even a gallery to see what you can do with this camera in the air, and post your own results... I have just got one myself for my model plane. It's just an ordinary 2 Megapixel aiptek pencam, but modified to run off a model aircraft's battery pack and take instructions from a spare channel on your receiver. It has a programmable chip inside so you can alter the time in between shots. I'm taking mine to Spain this summer; we're going to try out some basic geological mapping, but with a bit of luck I should be taking some aerial photos of our model flying field this weekend to see how it turns out...:o)
They're out of stock right now - I was lucky to get mine before they ran out! Perhaps a better camera will be modded by them in future....
I'm still not convinced - w2k = NT 5.0 and Ex Pee is NT 5.1 There's only a year or so difference between them, and under the hood, they're pretty much the same OS.
Also, W2k uses less CPU and memory.
I know you can turn off all that fisher price and bubble help crap off, and turn on your desktop icons (What dunderhead at Microsoft thought it would be a good idea to hide your desktop icons? Good God....) - but that's the point - I don't want it like that in the first place - it should be turned OFF by default. I don't want to spend time turning all this crap off. It shouldn't be there in the first place. if you want it, then fine, it should be up to you to turn it on.
The only thing I had to turn off with 2000 was the personalised menus - lordy, that still drives me up the wall when I use someone elses machine.
And Ex Pee has product Activation, something I have serious issues with. if it has product Activation, it stays on the shelf (i loved Partition Magic, but they too started using Product Activation, so I haven't bought an upgrade - I'm still using version 5!
And hey, it's a really, really nice feeling wiping Ex Pee from a computer:o)
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As I remember, Elsbett built an engine in the 1980's that would take vegetable oil with no modifications, but the automobile industry weren't interested...I wonder why? :)
It is perfectly possible to build a diesel engine today that can use vegetable oil, regular diesel or biodiesel, (or mixtures of all three of these fuels in any ratio) as fuel. The know-how and technology is there. So why don't the automotive industry go for it? Are they too deelpy in bed with Big Oil?
No it isn't, I think you're confusing biodiesel with vegetable oil. Biodiesel has solvent properties, so it will corrode natural rubber. Vegetable oil WON'T. Anyhow, cars that have been manufactured after around 1992 generally use synthetic rubber seals, so no mods are needed for biodiesel.
Incidentally, this is another good reason to run on biodiesel - as it has solvent properties, when you first start using it, it will clean out your car's fuel system, helping to keep emissions low. When you do start to use biodiesel, put in say 20%, then go to 30%, then 40% and so on, until you're running on 100% biodiesel. Keep an eye on your fuel filter, because it will get clogged with all the crap from the dinodiesel that you were using before. It's not uncommon to go through 3 filters on your way to 100% biodiesel (I know folks who have gone through 3 filters in 3000 miles, so this isn't crap I'm talking here) Dinodiesel (esp. US diesel) is full of additives, sulfur and other crap which over time clog the fuel system. Once it's clean, it'll stay that way. You can even switch back to dinodiesel for the short term and back to biodiesel again, without it clogging the filter.
Biodiesel is made by taking vegetable oil and adding to it a mixture of methanol and caustic soda (sodium methoxide), a process known as transesterification. ethanol (or bioethanol) can also be used in place of methanol They are, however, both considered biofuels.
Biodiesel (made to a high standard) is nice 'n convenient, since you can run any diesel engine on it, unmodified. Pour it straight in, and away you go!
(methanol is itself made from natural gas, a fossil fuel..)
In fact my own car has been adapted to run on vegetable oil, (either used or fresh) I collect used oil and filter it in my back yard, down to 5 microns. My car runs just great on it, absolutely no difference in performance, and I'm sill getting the same mileage, around 45mpg (US) or 55mpg(UK). My car's exhaust smells a LOT nicer (sort of a popcorn, or hot oil 'flavor'), and vegetable oil is a cleaner burning fuel, so emissions are lower. And of course, it's carbon neutral
A friend of mine is doing the same, at his place of work, they have a canteen, and they're getting through more oil than he needs. the places that we're getting it from, are more than happy for us to take it away, because they have to pay to have it taken away, and we'll do it for free...
now that I've gone veggie, I won't be going back. The heat exchanger kit that is installed in my car can easily be taken out and fitted into my next car. It's a win win situation:
We're using a waste product that was grown locally
It's cheaper (as in free!)
We're not funding Big Oil, who are themselves supporting dodgy, corrupt, undemocratic and/or unstable regimes.
There are some strong economic, political and ethical reasons to run on vegetable oil. For me, it's a no-brainer :o)
What a shame she signed the bill that took the UK into Iraq in 2003. She would have had support of the majority of the country if she had done that, and Tony Bliar would have been out on his ear....
I have absolutely no need to 'upgrade' Windows Ex Pee and it's childish, cumbersome interface, and even less reason to try Vista. If I ever do buy a whole PC with Vista pre-installed, it'll get wiped on first boot and Linux/windows 2000 installed in its place. I'm so not interested in Vista I won't even boot into it first time. That SuSE DVD is going in right after I change the BIOS to boot from DVD...
Want to know why windows 2000 was my last MS operating system, and why I've migrated to Linux? PRODUCT ACTIVATION!!! Thank you, Microsoft.
What's stopping someone from changing the date in the BIOS to, say, september 24th, 1990, then doing a clean install?
If Vista thinks it's still 1990, and you make sure it doesn't phone home for the correct date, will you have 17 years worth of use?
http://www.smartveg.com/
You can convert a diesel running with eirther pump.
For a diesel with a Lucas pump, a two tank solution is needed, along with the fitting of a heat exchanger and three way solenoid switch. A small 22 litre jerry can goes in the boot, which is filled with regular dino diesel or biodiesel. Veggie oil goes into the original tank. Start the engine up on regular diesel, first get the engine and injector pump warm, get the fuel hot via the exchanger, then flick a switch on your dash and run on veggie oil. At about 70 degrees C, veggie oil has the viscosity approaching that of dino diesel, and the now warmed up injector pump can tolerate it happily. About a mile before your journeys end, switch back to regular diesel to flush the injector pump, ready for the next cold start.
Diesels with Bosch pumps can be converted using a one tank solution. This involves fitting new injector units and pipes that have been designed to handle veggie oil, and changing the fuel line to one with a larger diameter to cope with the added thickness of veggie (or by fitting a more powerful lift pump), and of course fitting a heat exhanger.
Some more info on running your diesel vehicle on veggie oil: http://www.smartveg.com/ http://www.dieselveg.com/ http://www.elsbett.com/
During a very cold spell, you can mix the veggie oil with either dino diesel or petrol to keep it thin, usually a 70-30% mix in favour of veggie oil will do.
The Zune Looks like a complete POS to me. I wouldn't have one given to me...
My petrol car died at the weekend, and I got myself a diesel this time. Soon, I will be fitting a kit to it that will enable it to run on vegetable oil. It's cheaper than regular dino diesel, is renewable and CO2 neutral.
Windows Ex Pee = NT 5.1
Apple aren't the only ones who charge you for a decoimal point upgrade...
I go one step further - I wipe Ex Pee completely and install something else :o)
So it seems that the USA is at the mercy of China...What would happen if China suddenly called that debt in (for investment elsewhere, for example)
Agreed. In my opinion, W2k was the only decent OS that Microsoft ever put out. It all went to hell in a hand cart when Ex Pee came out. W2k is the last OS from MS that I will use at home. I have now converted two PCs at home to run Linux and another one to run W2k...they all came with Ex Pee pre-installed. They got wiped the day they arrived, and it will be the case when I get new PCs in the future that will undoubtedly have this Vista installed. I simply don't care for their products anymore.....they are....well boring, tired, and insipid. Nothing new here, except frustration. That Ex Pee crayola theme is complete rubbish! Why is it turned on by default? It's crap, so in-your-face, and it's ugly as sin....It's not what I want from a GUI. Why can't I make that blue/green crayola taskbar a different colour? Oh, I have to buy an enhancement pack to do that...But I can already do that straight out of the box with KDE. :o)
I suppose it's a sad day when MS think that's what they have to do to try and sell more copies of windows - mess around with the GUI and think it looks nice and pretty and people are going to rush out and get it coz it 'looks better'. And what's the deal with this new version of Office that has these 'ribbons' instead of the regular menu style?
And now I hear there are going to be 7 different versions of Windows Vista, some with the 3D aero GUI that will eat memory and RAM like there's no tomorrow??? Christ on a bike! Have they really lost the plot or something? I think so.
oh well, they are an irrelevance; they can carry on with their Product Activation, licence nag screens, whatever. I could care less for MS. I'm very happy with Linux on my laptop...I have all the apps I need running right here. Linux has come a long way these past few years, and I'm very impressed with it...I'm never going back to Windows now!
OO has come a loooong way since I last tried it; So far, I'm very impressed with it. Give it a go. Those of you who aren't using it are missing a trick or two!
An operating system is software, and not integral to the computer, since an entirely different OS can be installed and used. Similarly, If the only colour I can get is black, I could take it to a paint shop and have the vehicle coloured to something I prefer.
Point taken though. Replace that weedy pre-installed 1 litre four cylinder engine with a nice 3 litre V8! :o)
When I was looking for one, I went to Dell and asked them for one without Windows Ex Pee. No deal. It was either Windows, or Windows.
Seems to me you can have any operating system you want on your new computer, as long as it's Windows, to borrow a phase from Mr Ford...
I've just bought a Toshiba Laptop. Unfortunately, this is coming with Windows Ex Pee Pro pre-installed, which I have absolutely no need or use for. So I will format it immediately and install Linux instead, and send the CDs back with a letter.
Perhaps the only way manufacturers will start to get the hint, is if EVERYONE who does not want windows on their new PC/Laptop, simply sends the restore/recovery CD (Since they don't even seem to include a real Windows CD anymore) back with a letter explaining why, instead of grumbling quietly and reformatting the hard drive. If manufacturers start getting back a significant percentage of these CDs and explainatory letters, they might do something. After all, we are their customers, and customer is always right?
But what really pisses me off is that there's no way anymore to get a refund for the non use of Windows OEM Licence on a new system. It just shows how inflexible the current system is, and it doesn't make sense, either. They can save that licence for use on another PC, and give the customer a discount for not taking Windows. As a customer, I want choice. If I want a new car, I want to have it in the colour of my choice, not just black.
Oh well, this will be the third Home PC/Laptop that will have Windows Ex Pee wiped from the drive and Linux installed instead.
Windows Ex Pee: 0
Linux: 3
Perhaps you should try Windows 2000 intead of Ex Pee. It uses less memory (32Mb minimum) and CPU (Pentium 133) than Ex Pee, and is just as reliable, all without that crap Crayola/Fisher-Price interface :o)
chameleon@linux:~> sudo grep -r ******* /var/log
We trust you have received the usual lecture from the local System
Administrator. It usually boils down to these three things:
#1) Respect the privacy of others.
#2) Think before you type.
#3) With great power comes great responsibility.
I've just started putting an impact crater site together - starting with the largest and oldest known structure, Vredefort, in South Africa....You'll find it on Google Earth too, but I have several vector layers and so far 5 different raster data sets that GE doesn't have :)
it runs off Mapserver.
GS: I think you can make a fair case that we're doing a little of both. There were clearly some areas that the early adopters had been using in alternative products for a while. Tabs is probably the primary one. And we fielded a number of questions and even complaints from customers saying "When are you going to give us tabbed browsing in IE." Now we've done that; IE7 has a very, very good tab implementation. There are many users out there who are still using IE6 and have never tried tabbed browsing, and we think when they get exposed to it in IE7 they'll think it's very cool.
I had to laugh when I read this. It's nice to see MS catching up with what we've been using for years. Welcome to the party, guys! you're only several years late! :o) The fact reamins IE will never be as innovative as Firefox, simply because it isn't open source. It will never have the vast amount of features that FF has, nor will it be as customisable, because the only people who can make IE a better browser are the minority who work for MS. I think they will have a hard battle trying to get people back who made the switch away from IE. Anyway, good luck to em. This may actually make IE into a half decent browser. Perhaps MS can learn from this, in that a little competition is a *good* thing? Not that I'd ever be trying it anytime soon - it does not look like there will be a version of IE7 for Windows 2000 and Linux.
Internet Exploder is Dead! Long live Firefox!
I have just got one myself for my model plane. It's just an ordinary 2 Megapixel aiptek pencam, but modified to run off a model aircraft's battery pack and take instructions from a spare channel on your receiver. It has a programmable chip inside so you can alter the time in between shots. I'm taking mine to Spain this summer; we're going to try out some basic geological mapping, but with a bit of luck I should be taking some aerial photos of our model flying field this weekend to see how it turns out...
They're out of stock right now - I was lucky to get mine before they ran out! Perhaps a better camera will be modded by them in future....
Also, W2k uses less CPU and memory.
I know you can turn off all that fisher price and bubble help crap off, and turn on your desktop icons (What dunderhead at Microsoft thought it would be a good idea to hide your desktop icons? Good God....) - but that's the point - I don't want it like that in the first place - it should be turned OFF by default. I don't want to spend time turning all this crap off. It shouldn't be there in the first place. if you want it, then fine, it should be up to you to turn it on.
The only thing I had to turn off with 2000 was the personalised menus - lordy, that still drives me up the wall when I use someone elses machine.
And Ex Pee has product Activation, something I have serious issues with. if it has product Activation, it stays on the shelf (i loved Partition Magic, but they too started using Product Activation, so I haven't bought an upgrade - I'm still using version 5!
And hey, it's a really, really nice feeling wiping Ex Pee from a computer :o)