My own personal guess was that TF2 was originally delayed because they wanted to include CS2 with it. I wouldn't be at all surprised if this expanded to "aw, screw it, let's make HL2 and release it all in one box".
You must admit, it would be a pretty compelling deal to have the sequels to some of the most popular games in history coming out in one box. Hell, the only way it could get better is for them to have Mac and Linux versions, too.
Does it use NSA's SE Linux kernel patches? Ordinarily, I don't see much use for them, but it seems exactly the sort of thing that you would want for a trusted system.
Exactly. People whine and complain about how the DMCA shuts down research, yet don't seem to understand that you also can't do genuine research without an open mind. I think some people would be stunned at the number of genuine scientific areas of study that have more or less stopped because a bunch of liberals told them they were being sexist, racist, or homophobic.
Women are worse at spatial orientation. Who cares? I'm quite sure there's something they're also _better_ at than men. Doesn't make one gender or the other "better", it just illustrates that certain genders are better at certain things. Saying this is "sexist" is not only stupid, but impedes real scientific research.
I must admit, I think that it could be _the_ killer app for DVD recordables to record from a TiVO.
Click one button, you get all the episodes of some series for the season. A few months later, you burn them all to DVD, and stash it in your collection. I could see that being _very_ compelling stuff.
Perhaps this is what MythTV and Freevo need to automate?
As a frequent eBay purchaser of GW merchandise, it's not all sunshine to buy auction-style. Often, it's difficult to get exactly what you want, and the good prices are only for older, suckier models that you might need to strip of paint first (hello, PineSol!).
If you've got the patience, you can often get better (if not far more infrequent) deals with individuals getting out of the hobby. Once, I got about 42 _metal_ minis (CSMs, if you care) for $50. It was a stunningly good deal, despite that I needed to strip the paint off a few of them.
I've been considering dropping Warhammer 40,000 from my "list of games played", though. The recent price hikes didn't bother me so much, and neither does this - 40k is expensive to play, and a couple bucks more isn't going to hurt so bad. It's just much easier for me to find friends to play Star Munchkin, Settlers of Catan, or Chez Geek than 40k, and that makes a big difference. It's probably better for me to plunk down $28 for a game like Settlers of Catan that I play incessantly rather than buy a Basilisk (artillery piece) that I only use every so often when I can find the three hours for a good game of 40k.
"In a sense, Microsoft would be buying up a monopoly on Doom III."
And in a legal sense, this is not a monopoly. If Doom3 was the only game out there, you'd have an argument, but it's not. If MS had bought out all games' licenses, it would be a monopoly. They have not.
Considering that John Carmack wrote a ways back that the XBox probably _did_ have the hardware to handle Doom3, albeit cut down a touch, I don't really see your theory having much support in reality.
Remember, the console only has to run it at 640x480, no AA, and on only one set of hardware. Hand-tweaked assembly isn't going to happen for each computer platform, but I certainly could see it for a single console. How the leaked Doom3 alpha runs on your P4 2.4ghz is not really a good measure of how the final version might run on an XBox (or PC, for that matter).
I hardly see anything wrong with buying exclusive rights for games and development houses in order to make your console more attractive to the consumer. Nintendo did this (bought Rare), and I thought Sony did something similar with Square. This is hardly new behavior, and there's nothing inherently wrong with this. See it as a method of adding value by buying rights to things.
If you want Doom3 on a console, you'll have to buy an Xbox. That's the plan. It's not monopolistic, nor is it morally wrong. It's just a good way of doing business.
I'm unsure about this. I hesitate to say "this is a bad product", but I'd want something that works more like a conventional phone. Having to run to the TV everytime a call comes in, throwing everyone off the couch, and positioning yourself for the camera seems a little bit of a production for a simple phone call. It's also totally lacking in privacy.
Instead, I'd like to see a shorter-range, desktop version with small LCD. The camera would be aimable, so you could pre-orient it to your height, and the LCD would be small so that you could view it privately. Obviously, the camera would have to have more of a webcam range than 5-10 feet. Microphone would be built into the case, of course, along with headphone jack.
I have to admit, Viewsonic's middle-to-upper end monitors are really quite amazing pieces of hardware. When I was doing yearbook design for my high school, my personal computer had a upper-end flatscreen Viewsonic monitor with a Matrox G200 powering it. As you can imagine, it was quite nice on the eyes. I was so impressed I went out and bought a G200 with a much-cheaper Viewsonic to use as my second head on my personal computer. Not as nice, but still much nicer than the generic 19 inch monitor.
So, as for monitor buying advice: 1. More is better - and if you've got a video card with dual-head, two 15 inch monitors are _much_ better than a single 17 inch monitor. 2. I would avoid buying an LCD unless you're short on space. More expensive, usually has a mediocre refresh rate. 3. Never _ever_ buy a non-flat-screen CRT if you can help it. 4. Don't expect a crappy video card to power an amazing monitor very well. Even just getting a newer ATI (made by, not powered by) card will do wonders for you. 5. Don't be afraid to spend good money. CPUs are temporary, a good monitor is forever.
So, let me get this straight - you want unprofitable Apple/Universal to sell their music at less than they do now, and pay their artists less.
I can think of no better way to kill Apple/Universal than that. If you pay performers less, they'll just go elsewhere, to other labels, you know? And selling CDs on the cheap will only aggravate the current profitability situation (or lack thereof). Taking losses on unpopular artists is exactly how _not_ to run a business.
Apple might sell a few more computers in the short-run, but they'd be eating massive losses for such a long time that their survivability would be in doubt.
Perhaps it's just paranoia on my part, but if it hasn't been released under a Free license, I don't look at the source to it. The last thing I want is my employer to get sued because MS/whomever claims I used their code, rightfully or not.
"In conclusion, the PATRIOT II act is coming up for consideration and vote in the near future. It is my personal view that it is too extreme, but I also may not know all the facts. Thus, I urge you to think carefully before deciding for or against it."
Exactly. We don't always know all the facts, and we need to admit as much. However, presenting a calm and well-thought-out viewpoint really can influence people.
That vendor doesn't exist, sorry. Matrox dropped the ball with Parhelia, and S3/VIA has never had an accelerated DRI driver to the best of my knowledge.
Here's the problem: nVidia and ATI make professional and consumer versions of their cards with the same hardware. The only difference is a resistor telling the BIOS which one it is. The _drivers_ are what tell the card to use certain features. While I'm not sure exactly how much is BIOS, and how much is driver, I'm betting having access to the driver source gives you a way to enable those professional features on the consumer cards.
Hence, not only are there no vendors like you want, but it becomes increasingly unlikely that they will pop into existence. Sorry.
Google shouldn't bother with an IPO unless it becomes really apparent they need one. Money ain't everything, and if the employees are happy with the way things are now, why bother?
Certainly, R&D will suffer if an IPO happens and the focus of the company becomes delivering the almighty dollar to investors. However, if they find their good employees leaving for greener pastures (ie, more money), it might be time for that IPO to raise funds to keep them.
I always find it interesting how some people see what other people think are cons as pluses.
Here's a good example: the story's author likes how SuSE prompts you for information constantly during install. I've heard that as a criticism from other people - why won't this thing just install, dammit!?
It's also a good reason why some people prefer certain distributions and hate others. The guy who likes Debian may not care about a complicated install process and tons of configuration afterwards if he gets auto-upgrade functionality like that found in apt-get, whereas a RedHat user might prefer auto-detection and a really nice-looking desktop (Bluecurve) in exchange for the lack of apt-get functionality.
This is why such casual observations as "X distribution sucks, Y is so much better" tend to be so idiotic - not everyone has their priorities in the same places. What's good for me might not be so good for you, and vica versa.
"examples include the Patriot act, that bloke that got arrested in a mall for wearing an anti-war T-shirt, etc."
1. The Patriot Act doesn't have anything to do with freedom of speech. It has to do with right to privacy. Not defending the Patriot Act, but it really isn't an example.
2. The guy was arrested for _trespassing_, not for the anti-war shirt. Malls are private property here in the USA - they told him to leave, he didn't, he was arrested. Again, nothing to do with freedom of speech.
As for alternative viewpoints, we've had large demonstrations in most US cities. People aren't arrested unless they're engaging in civil disobedience, like blocking streets. Of course, civil disobedience only works if you're arrested, anyways, so I'd say things are working fine.
In other words, no, you're just plain wrong. The US is _not_ cracking down on freedom of speech. Quite possibly, the survey favors European countries due to their plethora of major political parties - the US only has two, and that means fewer viewpoints, but not fewer views.
"The graphs then go on to show a "Dell P4 3.06Ghz" versus a "Mac G4 Dual 1.25GHz" without a mention as to why. Have the test been re-run by Adobe on new hardware? Double-typos?"
I really, really doubt you want to see dual 1.42ghz G4s trying to go toe to toe with dual 2.16ghz Athlons. Let's be real with ourselves - 320mhz more of combined CPU time is just not going to let the G4s compete, high IPC or not. The increase is still going to be linear, and that's not going to allow it to catch up, especially not with the absolutely crappy SDRAM Apple is still using - can we say bottleneck?
I have a strong feeling that the Opteron will close the book on this whole discussion anyways. Adobe has made a choice to support the best performing the platform right now - honestly, if Apple was faster, why does it always seem to lose in the benchmarks?
I still like Apples a lot, but trying to claim they're the fastest thing on the block is pretty much a lost cause at this point. Quite a few Mac users complain about the "mhz hype", but fail to understand they've been taken in by "IPC hype".
Oh, I get it - there's no other reason Bush wouldn't want the oil wells intact except for his own persona enrichment? How about the environment? Or that we're trying to preserve _infrastructure_. Oil wells are one of those pieces of infrastructure. It makes a lot of sense to ask them _not_ to torch them.
The Iraqis will be far more likely to be friendly to the US if we _don't_ destroy their best income source. But they'll be pissed off even if we let Saddam do it. Thus, we ask the Iraqi troops not to torch them.
This makes a lot of sense once you get by your hatred of GWB.
But Keith better be damned sure _why_ he's forking, because the last thing the Linux community needs at this point is for the windowing standards to fall apart.
If this was a "to-be-merged fork" like the sort you always see at the DRI project, I'd be much more sanguine about this. The article makes it sound like it's a full-blown "screw you" fork.
Pentium-IIIs? Are you _nuts_? I'm still using a P5C-MMX for work:).
Just because geeks tend to have bad-ass computers doesn't mean they just discard the old ones like used condoms. There are zillions of things you can do with a P-II, let alone a higher-clocked P-III.
Household servers, for instance - wouldn't mind having something that I could load old hard drives onto and use for network storage. Linux alone makes for all sorts of neat things, like thin client servers.
When you're talking about geek trash, it really is usually stuff that was used to death. Want an old 486? Nah, I didn't think so.
I was under the impression that the Canadian and US militaries were pretty much integrated at this point. That is to say, if somebody nukes Detroit, the Canadian military is allowed to immediately move south (no 30 day wait) and comes under control of the ranking American officer in the area, and vica versa - if Toronto is hit, US forces don't need to wait, they just go under Canadian control when they cross the border.
So, no, who cares? Canada is like National Guard North for the most part. Nice to have around, I think.
There's also: 1. That Canada might not be up for the war, but they've been fairly rational in their non-support. Compare this to say, France of recent days. Even Germany's been quieter. 2. That Canada's military has been taking cuts for years, and really isn't equipped to help that much anyways.
So, in other words, Canadian help wouldn't have been much, and they haven't been loud and obnoxious about not wanting the war. No reason to be upset.
-Erwos
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Good question. Let me try to explain:
"Support the troops" probably does mean different things to different people. But, I think that when most people say it, they understand it as:
Yes, there's a war on. Whether you're for it or against it, it doesn't change the objective reality that we're fighting now. If we want anyone to win, sure as hell, we don't want it to be Saddam. _No one_ wants that, even our friends in France and Germany.
In other words, even if you didn't want the war, the next best thing is for us to win it and rebuild Iraq. Thus, we support our troops unconditionally.
Amen. Speaking as an American who supports this war, I would be extremely happy if we could have zero casualties on all sides, yet remove our friend Saddam and his boys from power and replace them with a democracy. Unfortunately, I don't think that'll happen without a few people gettnig killed. A shame, I think. Sometimes, war is justified - but it's never a good thing, and we should pray that body counts on all sides are as low as possible.
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My own personal guess was that TF2 was originally delayed because they wanted to include CS2 with it. I wouldn't be at all surprised if this expanded to "aw, screw it, let's make HL2 and release it all in one box".
You must admit, it would be a pretty compelling deal to have the sequels to some of the most popular games in history coming out in one box. Hell, the only way it could get better is for them to have Mac and Linux versions, too.
-Erwos
Does it use NSA's SE Linux kernel patches? Ordinarily, I don't see much use for them, but it seems exactly the sort of thing that you would want for a trusted system.
-Erwos
Exactly. People whine and complain about how the DMCA shuts down research, yet don't seem to understand that you also can't do genuine research without an open mind. I think some people would be stunned at the number of genuine scientific areas of study that have more or less stopped because a bunch of liberals told them they were being sexist, racist, or homophobic.
Women are worse at spatial orientation. Who cares? I'm quite sure there's something they're also _better_ at than men. Doesn't make one gender or the other "better", it just illustrates that certain genders are better at certain things. Saying this is "sexist" is not only stupid, but impedes real scientific research.
-Erwos
I must admit, I think that it could be _the_ killer app for DVD recordables to record from a TiVO.
Click one button, you get all the episodes of some series for the season. A few months later, you burn them all to DVD, and stash it in your collection. I could see that being _very_ compelling stuff.
Perhaps this is what MythTV and Freevo need to automate?
-DMZ
As a frequent eBay purchaser of GW merchandise, it's not all sunshine to buy auction-style. Often, it's difficult to get exactly what you want, and the good prices are only for older, suckier models that you might need to strip of paint first (hello, PineSol!).
If you've got the patience, you can often get better (if not far more infrequent) deals with individuals getting out of the hobby. Once, I got about 42 _metal_ minis (CSMs, if you care) for $50. It was a stunningly good deal, despite that I needed to strip the paint off a few of them.
I've been considering dropping Warhammer 40,000 from my "list of games played", though. The recent price hikes didn't bother me so much, and neither does this - 40k is expensive to play, and a couple bucks more isn't going to hurt so bad. It's just much easier for me to find friends to play Star Munchkin, Settlers of Catan, or Chez Geek than 40k, and that makes a big difference. It's probably better for me to plunk down $28 for a game like Settlers of Catan that I play incessantly rather than buy a Basilisk (artillery piece) that I only use every so often when I can find the three hours for a good game of 40k.
-Erwos
"In a sense, Microsoft would be buying up a monopoly on Doom III."
And in a legal sense, this is not a monopoly. If Doom3 was the only game out there, you'd have an argument, but it's not. If MS had bought out all games' licenses, it would be a monopoly. They have not.
-Erwos
Considering that John Carmack wrote a ways back that the XBox probably _did_ have the hardware to handle Doom3, albeit cut down a touch, I don't really see your theory having much support in reality.
Remember, the console only has to run it at 640x480, no AA, and on only one set of hardware. Hand-tweaked assembly isn't going to happen for each computer platform, but I certainly could see it for a single console. How the leaked Doom3 alpha runs on your P4 2.4ghz is not really a good measure of how the final version might run on an XBox (or PC, for that matter).
-Erwos
I hardly see anything wrong with buying exclusive rights for games and development houses in order to make your console more attractive to the consumer. Nintendo did this (bought Rare), and I thought Sony did something similar with Square. This is hardly new behavior, and there's nothing inherently wrong with this. See it as a method of adding value by buying rights to things.
If you want Doom3 on a console, you'll have to buy an Xbox. That's the plan. It's not monopolistic, nor is it morally wrong. It's just a good way of doing business.
-Erwos
This is _probably_ a Sawfish problem. I'm running GNOME/Metacity with RH8, and Opera works fine on my dualhead Xinerama setup.
-Erwos
I'm unsure about this. I hesitate to say "this is a bad product", but I'd want something that works more like a conventional phone. Having to run to the TV everytime a call comes in, throwing everyone off the couch, and positioning yourself for the camera seems a little bit of a production for a simple phone call. It's also totally lacking in privacy.
Instead, I'd like to see a shorter-range, desktop version with small LCD. The camera would be aimable, so you could pre-orient it to your height, and the LCD would be small so that you could view it privately. Obviously, the camera would have to have more of a webcam range than 5-10 feet. Microphone would be built into the case, of course, along with headphone jack.
-Erwos
I have to admit, Viewsonic's middle-to-upper end monitors are really quite amazing pieces of hardware. When I was doing yearbook design for my high school, my personal computer had a upper-end flatscreen Viewsonic monitor with a Matrox G200 powering it. As you can imagine, it was quite nice on the eyes. I was so impressed I went out and bought a G200 with a much-cheaper Viewsonic to use as my second head on my personal computer. Not as nice, but still much nicer than the generic 19 inch monitor.
So, as for monitor buying advice:
1. More is better - and if you've got a video card with dual-head, two 15 inch monitors are _much_ better than a single 17 inch monitor.
2. I would avoid buying an LCD unless you're short on space. More expensive, usually has a mediocre refresh rate.
3. Never _ever_ buy a non-flat-screen CRT if you can help it.
4. Don't expect a crappy video card to power an amazing monitor very well. Even just getting a newer ATI (made by, not powered by) card will do wonders for you.
5. Don't be afraid to spend good money. CPUs are temporary, a good monitor is forever.
-Erwos
So, let me get this straight - you want unprofitable Apple/Universal to sell their music at less than they do now, and pay their artists less.
I can think of no better way to kill Apple/Universal than that. If you pay performers less, they'll just go elsewhere, to other labels, you know? And selling CDs on the cheap will only aggravate the current profitability situation (or lack thereof). Taking losses on unpopular artists is exactly how _not_ to run a business.
Apple might sell a few more computers in the short-run, but they'd be eating massive losses for such a long time that their survivability would be in doubt.
-Erwos
Perhaps it's just paranoia on my part, but if it hasn't been released under a Free license, I don't look at the source to it. The last thing I want is my employer to get sued because MS/whomever claims I used their code, rightfully or not.
-Erwos
"In conclusion, the PATRIOT II act is coming up for consideration and vote in the near future. It is my personal view that it is too extreme, but I also may not know all the facts. Thus, I urge you to think carefully before deciding for or against it."
Exactly. We don't always know all the facts, and we need to admit as much. However, presenting a calm and well-thought-out viewpoint really can influence people.
-Erwos
That vendor doesn't exist, sorry. Matrox dropped the ball with Parhelia, and S3/VIA has never had an accelerated DRI driver to the best of my knowledge.
Here's the problem: nVidia and ATI make professional and consumer versions of their cards with the same hardware. The only difference is a resistor telling the BIOS which one it is. The _drivers_ are what tell the card to use certain features. While I'm not sure exactly how much is BIOS, and how much is driver, I'm betting having access to the driver source gives you a way to enable those professional features on the consumer cards.
Hence, not only are there no vendors like you want, but it becomes increasingly unlikely that they will pop into existence. Sorry.
-Erwos
Google shouldn't bother with an IPO unless it becomes really apparent they need one. Money ain't everything, and if the employees are happy with the way things are now, why bother?
Certainly, R&D will suffer if an IPO happens and the focus of the company becomes delivering the almighty dollar to investors. However, if they find their good employees leaving for greener pastures (ie, more money), it might be time for that IPO to raise funds to keep them.
-Erwos
I always find it interesting how some people see what other people think are cons as pluses.
Here's a good example: the story's author likes how SuSE prompts you for information constantly during install. I've heard that as a criticism from other people - why won't this thing just install, dammit!?
It's also a good reason why some people prefer certain distributions and hate others. The guy who likes Debian may not care about a complicated install process and tons of configuration afterwards if he gets auto-upgrade functionality like that found in apt-get, whereas a RedHat user might prefer auto-detection and a really nice-looking desktop (Bluecurve) in exchange for the lack of apt-get functionality.
This is why such casual observations as "X distribution sucks, Y is so much better" tend to be so idiotic - not everyone has their priorities in the same places. What's good for me might not be so good for you, and vica versa.
-Erwos
"examples include the Patriot act, that bloke that got arrested in a mall for wearing an anti-war T-shirt, etc."
1. The Patriot Act doesn't have anything to do with freedom of speech. It has to do with right to privacy. Not defending the Patriot Act, but it really isn't an example.
2. The guy was arrested for _trespassing_, not for the anti-war shirt. Malls are private property here in the USA - they told him to leave, he didn't, he was arrested. Again, nothing to do with freedom of speech.
As for alternative viewpoints, we've had large demonstrations in most US cities. People aren't arrested unless they're engaging in civil disobedience, like blocking streets. Of course, civil disobedience only works if you're arrested, anyways, so I'd say things are working fine.
In other words, no, you're just plain wrong. The US is _not_ cracking down on freedom of speech. Quite possibly, the survey favors European countries due to their plethora of major political parties - the US only has two, and that means fewer viewpoints, but not fewer views.
-Erwos
"The graphs then go on to show a "Dell P4 3.06Ghz" versus a "Mac G4 Dual 1.25GHz" without a mention as to why. Have the test been re-run by Adobe on new hardware? Double-typos?"
I really, really doubt you want to see dual 1.42ghz G4s trying to go toe to toe with dual 2.16ghz Athlons. Let's be real with ourselves - 320mhz more of combined CPU time is just not going to let the G4s compete, high IPC or not. The increase is still going to be linear, and that's not going to allow it to catch up, especially not with the absolutely crappy SDRAM Apple is still using - can we say bottleneck?
I have a strong feeling that the Opteron will close the book on this whole discussion anyways. Adobe has made a choice to support the best performing the platform right now - honestly, if Apple was faster, why does it always seem to lose in the benchmarks?
I still like Apples a lot, but trying to claim they're the fastest thing on the block is pretty much a lost cause at this point. Quite a few Mac users complain about the "mhz hype", but fail to understand they've been taken in by "IPC hype".
-Erwos
Oh, I get it - there's no other reason Bush wouldn't want the oil wells intact except for his own persona enrichment? How about the environment? Or that we're trying to preserve _infrastructure_. Oil wells are one of those pieces of infrastructure. It makes a lot of sense to ask them _not_ to torch them.
The Iraqis will be far more likely to be friendly to the US if we _don't_ destroy their best income source. But they'll be pissed off even if we let Saddam do it. Thus, we ask the Iraqi troops not to torch them.
This makes a lot of sense once you get by your hatred of GWB.
-Erwos
But Keith better be damned sure _why_ he's forking, because the last thing the Linux community needs at this point is for the windowing standards to fall apart.
If this was a "to-be-merged fork" like the sort you always see at the DRI project, I'd be much more sanguine about this. The article makes it sound like it's a full-blown "screw you" fork.
-Erwos
Pentium-IIIs? Are you _nuts_? I'm still using a P5C-MMX for work :).
Just because geeks tend to have bad-ass computers doesn't mean they just discard the old ones like used condoms. There are zillions of things you can do with a P-II, let alone a higher-clocked P-III.
Household servers, for instance - wouldn't mind having something that I could load old hard drives onto and use for network storage. Linux alone makes for all sorts of neat things, like thin client servers.
When you're talking about geek trash, it really is usually stuff that was used to death. Want an old 486? Nah, I didn't think so.
-Erwos
I was under the impression that the Canadian and US militaries were pretty much integrated at this point. That is to say, if somebody nukes Detroit, the Canadian military is allowed to immediately move south (no 30 day wait) and comes under control of the ranking American officer in the area, and vica versa - if Toronto is hit, US forces don't need to wait, they just go under Canadian control when they cross the border.
So, no, who cares? Canada is like National Guard North for the most part. Nice to have around, I think.
There's also:
1. That Canada might not be up for the war, but they've been fairly rational in their non-support. Compare this to say, France of recent days. Even Germany's been quieter.
2. That Canada's military has been taking cuts for years, and really isn't equipped to help that much anyways.
So, in other words, Canadian help wouldn't have been much, and they haven't been loud and obnoxious about not wanting the war. No reason to be upset.
-Erwos
Good question. Let me try to explain:
"Support the troops" probably does mean different things to different people. But, I think that when most people say it, they understand it as:
Yes, there's a war on. Whether you're for it or against it, it doesn't change the objective reality that we're fighting now. If we want anyone to win, sure as hell, we don't want it to be Saddam. _No one_ wants that, even our friends in France and Germany.
In other words, even if you didn't want the war, the next best thing is for us to win it and rebuild Iraq. Thus, we support our troops unconditionally.
-Erwos
Amen. Speaking as an American who supports this war, I would be extremely happy if we could have zero casualties on all sides, yet remove our friend Saddam and his boys from power and replace them with a democracy. Unfortunately, I don't think that'll happen without a few people gettnig killed. A shame, I think. Sometimes, war is justified - but it's never a good thing, and we should pray that body counts on all sides are as low as possible.
-Erwos