I believe you're getting confused. I didn't say "lack of capability means lack of support for Linux ", I said "lack of support for hardware capability means lack of support for Linux".
My laptop not having USB doesn't mean it's unsupported by Linux. My laptop having USB and having the USB chipset not be able to function properly in Linux means the USB is not supported by Linux.
The onboard video on the Lindows-Laptop has mediocre 3D capabilities in hardware, but you can't access them in Linux... hence, the 3D is unsupported by Linux. I promise, it's not hard to understand.
I wasn't even aware that the Savage4 had functional 3D-accelerated drivers. It's hard to say in good faith "this notebook supports Linux" if you can't even run a 3D app properly.
Nice try, but you could probably get a Dell laptop that's faster and cheaper despite the Windows tax. Sure, this one comes with Lindows, but that doesn't matter if the hardware support is not there...
But an interesting, creative idea. The only way I could see MS playing with this is if they thought it would get the courts off their back a bit ("Hey, we approved Linux on our hardware platform!").
Tabbed browsing has been around for years. Why couldn't Microsoft have included it with IE6? As a seasoned Mozilla and Opera user, I don't see how IE6 will ever compete with open source software.
Yes, that is what you just wrote. In retrospect, it doesn't seem to make much sense, does it? What GNOME or KDE or Windows or TWM had years ago is irrelevant to choosing what to get right now. Linux was certainly not on the center stage ten years ago, and development speed will only get faster as time goes on.
For what it's worth, I find GNOME+XFree86 to be, on the whole, a superior environment to Windows. It's not perfect, but I prefer it.
What we really need is a fancy open-source front-end to apt-rpm. The only issue is supporting it - RedHat/SuSE/etc has to _support_ everything you can get from it, whereas the Debian team just packages it and tells you to have fun - there's no onus on them to give you real support.
That's why Xine isn't installed by default: would you love to continually tell people calling support that their DVD player won't play their DVDs? Debian can afford to, RedHat cannot.
Personally, I'd like to see them cut back on giving you so much software on the default installs and just hand you what you need: GNOME, Mozilla, Evolution, and OpenOffice.
At least to my way of thinking, one of the Achilles' heels of Linux has been the lack of a unified sound system. We've got the graphics more or less together, but sound has always been quite spotty. Hopefully, this will be the magic bullet which starts getting sound card manufacturers to give Linux and other *NIXs the support they deserve.
I'd like to hear if the thing will have decent Linux support. 200 FPS at 1600x1200x32 in Quake3 in Windows means absolutely nothing to me if it can't do 3D acceleration in Linux.
So, two questions: 1. Will we see good 3D-accelerated drivers from S3 or funded by them? Open-source or not is irrelevant to me as long as they work well (ie, on par with nVidia or PowerVR). 2. Will S3 let S3TC be used in DRI drivers?
If the answer to either is no, they can take their chipset and shove it where the sun don't shine.
who did this. She was teaching Calculus I over the summer. She mentioned she did Chaos Theory at the beginning, and I totally ignored it - I had no idea our fine university was doing any _serious_ work in it. Fortunately, I appear to have been wrong. Go Terps!
As a CS major (junior-level) at one of the top CS schools in the US (#11, last I checked), I honestly have to wonder what they're going to teach at that course that I couldn't get from a few books and a generalized CS degree. The coursework itself will be useful, but the question is, do the benefits outweigh the costs?
And, moving on, I teach myself lots of things in the programming field. I resent the idea that people somehow think I'm "dumb and don't understand the real world" because I'm smart enough to realize that guidance in learning is a good thing. It seems to be a fairly common opinion on Slashdot that kids in college are mechanical robots who can only do what teacher's taught them. I don't confuse this with knowing everything - but I have confidence that I'm smart enough to learn.
My parents' KA7-100 spontaneously combusted one day. Luckily, my dad is good with a soldering iron, and managed to do a replacement of the caps himself.
To their credit, Abit has handled this honorably, and will do fixes for this problem for free. Not sure if you have to pay shipping or not, though.
At first, I assumed that this was a design mistake by Abit. I guess that wasn't true... Moral of this story: always have a backup computer for computer doing important things.
If I want to run MS Office, I'll boot into an MS OS. You need to remember, a big draw of Linux to businesses is _price_ - if they can't beat MS on that (and I have not seen UL's licensing for their proprietary stuff, but you'd think it was per seat if they included Crossover), why would a business bother to even use it? Just use Windows, and skip the expense of converting to a new OS and retraining everyone.
I was at an IBM dev conference last week, and the IBM guy seemed to think that the last hurdle in Linux on the desktop was a good office productivity suite. Hello? Dump $10 million into OpenOffice, and you'll have that!
Honestly, it amazes me that no one's able to just donate a million dollars to get a GPL'd MS.doc conversion util completely done. The ramifications would be so startlingly that it would rock the industry.
Does the KDE team even realize how inane disputes like the one they're in with RedHat end up hurting more than helping? C'mon, guys, if you didn't want this to happen, you shouldn't have used the license you did. Suck up those egos a bit, please.
Endless whining only hurts KDE. Accept reality, and get on with life. If you were really interested in the open source community's interests, you'd quietly accept that sometimes things you don't like happen with free licenses and get on with the coding.
If RedHat did indeed cripple KDE (of which no one has seen real proof of), than RH will suffer a marketshare loss. Happy now? Your holy vengeance will have been wreaked!
Here at University of Maryland at College Park, the Office of Information Technology has been pretty quick in rolling out 802.11b throughout campus. We're not at the magical 100% coverage point, but you can walk into most any building and find a spot with coverage. The entire outdoor mall is wireless, too - laying out on the grass on a sunny day while coding a CS project and doing some IM on your laptop is really nice:-).
I think that technology like this could be astoudingly useful in the classroom, and it saddens me a bit that we haven't really made any serious attempts to integrate it... money I suppose. Zapping notes and due dates into PDAs would be nice, at the minimum - cuts down on communication errors.
I predict we'll see serious usage of these technologies in 10 years - gotta give traditional educators some time to cope with them.
I think what this article is really pointing out is that you _don't need to be a coder to contribute to open source_. I know that people who code on open source projects constantly say that, but other, non-involved people don't seem to understand that improving documentation, testing, PR, scheduling, and the other "support" tasks are damned important to a good open source project. A room full of coders will not get you a good open source project!
MS did in fact come to NSA and lobby the hell out of them to stop because "it helps Linux and not us". What the article _doesn't_ mention was that the group doing SELinux immediately offered to implement security upgrades in Windows _without the GPL_.
MS said no. Why? Because MS don't really give a crap about security. If it doesn't make them money, MS doesn't care. That's what _really_ happened. It had nothing to do with open vs proprietary. It had to do with MS not wanting to spend money on security that they could get away without, and trying to hide it by doing away with the competition. (like usual)
Sure, an excellent video chipset... provided you can make it work. The devs of that project are still smoking crack and thinking that nvidia's drivers would work on XBox+Linux. I'm extremely skeptical, to say the least.
I understand the position, but they've got to have _some_ mechanism to verify you're working. Otherwise, people would just claim one patent took them two weeks.
Actually, I don't. I was saying the issue was that the reviewers have a certain number of patents they _must_ reject or approve every two weeks. This is a flawed system because there are some patents which should take at least a week to research properly. That's all I was trying to point out.
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I believe you're getting confused. I didn't say "lack of capability means lack of support for Linux ", I said "lack of support for hardware capability means lack of support for Linux".
My laptop not having USB doesn't mean it's unsupported by Linux. My laptop having USB and having the USB chipset not be able to function properly in Linux means the USB is not supported by Linux.
The onboard video on the Lindows-Laptop has mediocre 3D capabilities in hardware, but you can't access them in Linux... hence, the 3D is unsupported by Linux. I promise, it's not hard to understand.
-Erwos
I wasn't even aware that the Savage4 had functional 3D-accelerated drivers. It's hard to say in good faith "this notebook supports Linux" if you can't even run a 3D app properly.
Nice try, but you could probably get a Dell laptop that's faster and cheaper despite the Windows tax. Sure, this one comes with Lindows, but that doesn't matter if the hardware support is not there...
-Erwos
But an interesting, creative idea. The only way I could see MS playing with this is if they thought it would get the courts off their back a bit ("Hey, we approved Linux on our hardware platform!").
-Erwos
Tabbed browsing has been around for years. Why couldn't Microsoft have included it with IE6? As a seasoned Mozilla and Opera user, I don't see how IE6 will ever compete with open source software.
Yes, that is what you just wrote. In retrospect, it doesn't seem to make much sense, does it? What GNOME or KDE or Windows or TWM had years ago is irrelevant to choosing what to get right now. Linux was certainly not on the center stage ten years ago, and development speed will only get faster as time goes on.
For what it's worth, I find GNOME+XFree86 to be, on the whole, a superior environment to Windows. It's not perfect, but I prefer it.
-Erwos
What we really need is a fancy open-source front-end to apt-rpm. The only issue is supporting it - RedHat/SuSE/etc has to _support_ everything you can get from it, whereas the Debian team just packages it and tells you to have fun - there's no onus on them to give you real support.
That's why Xine isn't installed by default: would you love to continually tell people calling support that their DVD player won't play their DVDs? Debian can afford to, RedHat cannot.
Personally, I'd like to see them cut back on giving you so much software on the default installs and just hand you what you need: GNOME, Mozilla, Evolution, and OpenOffice.
-Erwos
At least to my way of thinking, one of the Achilles' heels of Linux has been the lack of a unified sound system. We've got the graphics more or less together, but sound has always been quite spotty. Hopefully, this will be the magic bullet which starts getting sound card manufacturers to give Linux and other *NIXs the support they deserve.
-Erwos
I'd like to hear if the thing will have decent Linux support. 200 FPS at 1600x1200x32 in Quake3 in Windows means absolutely nothing to me if it can't do 3D acceleration in Linux.
So, two questions:
1. Will we see good 3D-accelerated drivers from S3 or funded by them? Open-source or not is irrelevant to me as long as they work well (ie, on par with nVidia or PowerVR).
2. Will S3 let S3TC be used in DRI drivers?
If the answer to either is no, they can take their chipset and shove it where the sun don't shine.
-Erwos
who did this. She was teaching Calculus I over the summer. She mentioned she did Chaos Theory at the beginning, and I totally ignored it - I had no idea our fine university was doing any _serious_ work in it. Fortunately, I appear to have been wrong. Go Terps!
And, for the record, she was a damn good teacher.
-Erwos
As a CS major (junior-level) at one of the top CS schools in the US (#11, last I checked), I honestly have to wonder what they're going to teach at that course that I couldn't get from a few books and a generalized CS degree. The coursework itself will be useful, but the question is, do the benefits outweigh the costs?
And, moving on, I teach myself lots of things in the programming field. I resent the idea that people somehow think I'm "dumb and don't understand the real world" because I'm smart enough to realize that guidance in learning is a good thing. It seems to be a fairly common opinion on Slashdot that kids in college are mechanical robots who can only do what teacher's taught them. I don't confuse this with knowing everything - but I have confidence that I'm smart enough to learn.
-Erwos
Sure, and if you have no CPU cycles to spare, then what?
Opera runs fine on my P166MMX. Try Mozilla and see what happens...
-Erwos
Maybe I'm just confused, but how do you "install" onto a thin client? The whole point is that they don't have a hard drive on them.
LTSP is stupidly easy to use. Give them a try sometime.
-Erwos
You've got to wonder if the lack of Japanese music on Kazaa has something to do with the labels trying to find a new distribution method.
-Erwos
I'm pretty sure that he had a second bar mitzvah by the end of his life... not a hell of a lot of point if you don't believe in G-d.
-Erwos
My parents' KA7-100 spontaneously combusted one day. Luckily, my dad is good with a soldering iron, and managed to do a replacement of the caps himself.
To their credit, Abit has handled this honorably, and will do fixes for this problem for free. Not sure if you have to pay shipping or not, though.
At first, I assumed that this was a design mistake by Abit. I guess that wasn't true... Moral of this story: always have a backup computer for computer doing important things.
-Erwos
If I want to run MS Office, I'll boot into an MS OS. You need to remember, a big draw of Linux to businesses is _price_ - if they can't beat MS on that (and I have not seen UL's licensing for their proprietary stuff, but you'd think it was per seat if they included Crossover), why would a business bother to even use it? Just use Windows, and skip the expense of converting to a new OS and retraining everyone.
.doc conversion util completely done. The ramifications would be so startlingly that it would rock the industry.
I was at an IBM dev conference last week, and the IBM guy seemed to think that the last hurdle in Linux on the desktop was a good office productivity suite. Hello? Dump $10 million into OpenOffice, and you'll have that!
Honestly, it amazes me that no one's able to just donate a million dollars to get a GPL'd MS
Seriously.
-Erwos
Does the KDE team even realize how inane disputes like the one they're in with RedHat end up hurting more than helping? C'mon, guys, if you didn't want this to happen, you shouldn't have used the license you did. Suck up those egos a bit, please.
Endless whining only hurts KDE. Accept reality, and get on with life. If you were really interested in the open source community's interests, you'd quietly accept that sometimes things you don't like happen with free licenses and get on with the coding.
If RedHat did indeed cripple KDE (of which no one has seen real proof of), than RH will suffer a marketshare loss. Happy now? Your holy vengeance will have been wreaked!
-Erwos
Yes, yes, I meant to say that... I was typing on a public machine right before class, give a guy a break :-).
-Erwos
Here at University of Maryland at College Park, the Office of Information Technology has been pretty quick in rolling out 802.11b throughout campus. We're not at the magical 100% coverage point, but you can walk into most any building and find a spot with coverage. The entire outdoor mall is wireless, too - laying out on the grass on a sunny day while coding a CS project and doing some IM on your laptop is really nice :-).
I think that technology like this could be astoudingly useful in the classroom, and it saddens me a bit that we haven't really made any serious attempts to integrate it... money I suppose. Zapping notes and due dates into PDAs would be nice, at the minimum - cuts down on communication errors.
I predict we'll see serious usage of these technologies in 10 years - gotta give traditional educators some time to cope with them.
-Erwos
I think what this article is really pointing out is that you _don't need to be a coder to contribute to open source_. I know that people who code on open source projects constantly say that, but other, non-involved people don't seem to understand that improving documentation, testing, PR, scheduling, and the other "support" tasks are damned important to a good open source project. A room full of coders will not get you a good open source project!
-Erwos
ATI just released binary drivers for Radeon 8500. Feel stupid now?
-Erwos
At least $30 is a price I'd consider buying it for. I wonder if TuxGames will lower their price in response.
-Erwos
A little late, but this is all fact:
MS did in fact come to NSA and lobby the hell out of them to stop because "it helps Linux and not us". What the article _doesn't_ mention was that the group doing SELinux immediately offered to implement security upgrades in Windows _without the GPL_.
MS said no. Why? Because MS don't really give a crap about security. If it doesn't make them money, MS doesn't care. That's what _really_ happened. It had nothing to do with open vs proprietary. It had to do with MS not wanting to spend money on security that they could get away without, and trying to hide it by doing away with the competition. (like usual)
-Erwos
Sure, an excellent video chipset... provided you can make it work. The devs of that project are still smoking crack and thinking that nvidia's drivers would work on XBox+Linux. I'm extremely skeptical, to say the least.
-Erwos
I understand the position, but they've got to have _some_ mechanism to verify you're working. Otherwise, people would just claim one patent took them two weeks.
-Erwos
Actually, I don't. I was saying the issue was that the reviewers have a certain number of patents they _must_ reject or approve every two weeks. This is a flawed system because there are some patents which should take at least a week to research properly. That's all I was trying to point out.
-Erwos