Recommendations for a fileserver mobo with the Pentium M? Running linux, of course, headless systems, but have to be linux stable and (maybe?) SATA compatible.
I need to put a couple fileserver boxes in here and the noise from the existing ones is causing the SO to complain:( Space isn't a problem, noise is. Doesn't seem to matter how I isolate them:)
No offense to the Gentoo guys, but I feel warmer and fuzzier knowing I can get my OS installed in minutes. We have a hacked-up version of Slackware that we install on our servers that is done in 5 minutes. That's pretty hard to beat.
Works with Gentoo also, if you are installing on similar hardware. Just do it the first time (the "hacked-up" part) and make binaries, or alternatively tarzip the install. That's how I backup my installs for quick recovery. On different hw - other than a platform change - all that's really needed is a kernel reconfig/recompile. I have a generic AMD image for my machines that only requires changing the driver config for the kernel for different mobos/cards, and another for my two PII server boxes.
Anyway, I do agree about slackware - it's superb, and my second fave distro (Gentoo is my first:)
I wouldn't compare emerge with apt-get or installer scripts tho, there is a world of difference.
Personally, I don't give a bleep if he changes the movies and releases any new versions he wishes to - as long as I can get cleaned up, UNALTERED versions of the originals - on DVD, as I saw them in the theater. (1977 in the Paramount Theater, Mason City, IA for example)
Not saying I dislike the new versions, either - just that the originals are the ones nostalgic, bad sfx and all.
I own all three originals on VHS - with backup copies, and good thing, as the original VHS tapes are getting funky - and a laserdisc version, which I no longer have the hardware to play.
I'd PAY MONEY for digitally cleaned up versions on DVD, and I'm by far not the only person who would. Yo, George? You're ignoring a market!
(and yes, I do have divx versions of the originals - but their quality is even worse than the VHS versions:-( )
For a really big telescope, that's another advantage of being in space--you don't have to move it while imaging. Point it, and it keeps looking at the same object for as long as you want to integrate. On the Moon, you have to track objects across the sky.
To some extent. Space based scopes still suffer from movement and vibration problems - movement, particularly in LEO, from gravitational tidal effects (which can rotate a scope, not much, but some, depending on how close it's center of gravity is to it's physical center and what variations terrestrial mascons produce) and varying densities of the Earth's atmosphere at that altitude (think solar panel orientation and drag). Space based can also suffer from movement induced by particle fluctuations, particularly the solar wind, light pressure; and of course let's not forget debris impacts.
Yeah, those are pretty small effects, but they still have to be dealt with. I don't know the numbers, but I'd bet they are on a par with any vibrations induced in a lunar scope from moonquakes and mechanical irregularities in the structure and drive mechanisms.
I'd like to see *two* lunar observatories - one at each pole. How long do you want that exposure to last again? *grin* plus at the poles there'll be somewhat less risk of micrometeroids and much less particle flux.
I hope the ESA can get Darwin up in the next couple decades, tho. If anything would be able to resolve Earth-sized and smaller planets around stars, Darwin would.
Of course any lunar observatory, even if automated, is going to be HUGELY expensive:( and we probably would be better off putting up L-point observatories.
Heh. Well, I did buy Fire; that's why I thought I'd reread Deepness first, to refamiliarize myself with that universe. 40,000 years? Really? Wow. Vinge sure thinks deep.
If I can tear myself away from Deepness, I may just follow your recommendation. It'd be hard tho, that book is so DAMNED good.
Do you know, did Vinge write any other books in that universe?
Yeah, the binding is pretty much gone on mine, too. Sigh.
I haven't read FOTD yet, I just bought it; thought I'd reread DITS first and reacquaint myself with the universe. I've forgotten how good that book is and am taking my time. VERY much looking forward to FOTD.
DOH, major typo LOL. I meant hundreds OR thousands of meters, of course. Not often I do that;)
Another thought; to even push it off course with any efficiency we'd have to plant the nukes *below* the surface, so a part of the asteroid is kicked away - action/reaction. Detonating a nuke on or above the surface would give the rock some small kick from the hard particle front, but not much:(
"Braxxis009A, we are very sorry to report that Engineer839JA was intoxicated on blaaarg juice again, and due to his failure to oversee the maintenance on the steering jets in his sector, the Tentacle Of Destruction will miss the Third Planet this time around again."
Braxxis009A: "Dammit, it's so hard to find good help nowadays..."
Larry Niven touched on some of that with the thoughts of his main character in "Inconstant Moon".
What would you do if you thought civilization would end in the next few hours?* His treatment of it is by far the best I've ever seen in a short story.
Another good argument for having permanent observation satellites in lunar orbit... it's not like it costs *that* much more to put them there rather than in Earth orbit:(
Even if we could find a way to detonate every nuclear weapon we possess, at the same spot, on a 3 mile diameter asteroid it is not going to turn it into gravel; the asteroid will have it's orbit altered some, and *possibly* would fracture along it's internal fault lines.
The most likely result of such a fracture would be a small number of rocks with diameters ranging from a few tens of meters to hundreds of thousands of meters, and a small amount of gravel. A lot of that depends on what the composition of the asteroid is. If it's carbonaceous - like comets - there would be smaller fragments - if it's a stony or iron composition, it's unlikely we'd be able to fracture it at all, or if we could, then into very large chunks.
The REAL migraine there is that if the result was a lot of big chunks, their orbits would be altered enough that it's possible that they'd touch down at points distributed along the line of the Earth's rotation, thereby distributing the destruction even more widely. Remember, even a large ~ 3-8km-diameter asteroid's impact zone will be somewhat localized - even if it did alter the global climate, the worst effects would stay within one hemisphere. Not so with a time-distributed impact of many semi-large rocks.
Anything along these lines will have to be contemplated and modelled VERY carefully; the best data we could get would be if we had time to land probes on the asteroid in question and get seismic soundings of it's structure, and even then we'd still be playing with a lot of uncertaintities.
We should be pursuing studies and sending probes like this right now, so that if in the future the necessity emerges we at least have a good amount of data on many different rocks to use in our calculations, rather than some hurried-up last minute/year effort. But hell, this is all gibberish to most of those morons who make policy anyway, so what's the point of arguing it anymore in the public venue? Well, we need funding for those probes and studies... and like many other issues that need attention, this one is being ignored this year in favor of arguing over people's fucking war records from thirty years ago, and this in the country that is the world's most technologically capable society.
Sometimes I wonder if humanity as a whole hasn't already drank the koolaid.
*nod* We can hope so.... me, I wonder what'll happen in a few generations when our miserable excuses for schools have produced the sheep they wanted:(*
I'd seen a few blurbs about the absorption. The ramifications didn't strike me until now. Thanks... I think.
ICE cold rage. One lousy pun traded for another?:D
Same buru+added+bururagecracy.
It's the old story... they multiply like rabbits, and with about the same distributed IQ. I'm not talking only about immigrants either, it's a parasitic relation now.
But I stand by what I said. At this point in time, uncontrolled immigration is more destructive than constructive. I hate that. I hate saying it. But I can't find anything to convince me that it isn't true.
Fuck. I'm only two generations removed from Ellis Island.
The morass creates jobs in the bea-ucratecy. Government feeds on itself until it self-destructs. Such is that way of nearly every political entity in history. Continuation of specialization in our government leads to... well, I don't have to elaborate, do I?
Don't have to teach me the concept of the self-feeding destructive feedback loop either, I've been watching it happen for nearly a quarter century.
Sorry if this is blunt, the Scotch/wash is good tonite, it's my Friday night. You kicked a few old stale brain cells into functional status:D
We're pretty well fucked. Once the disease spreads past a few organs than it's much harder to eliminate...
It may no longer be "applicable"; but it has been, and AFAIK is still, used against many marijuana offenders, often in cases where the other evidence against them (like in distribution cases) is shaky. It's just another way to bring charges.
There are articles on the NORML website and others, if you look.
You're only pissed off because I hired your lawyers away, you cheap bastard. Whores and servants just can't compete with Swiss bank accounts. Add the A/C and they were mine, muwahahahaha!
-billg
PS: You might consider doing something about the climate down there. Hellfire and brimstone just can't compete with 300 days of rainfall. Sorry.
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Recommendations for a fileserver mobo with the Pentium M? Running linux, of course, headless systems, but have to be linux stable and (maybe?) SATA compatible.
I need to put a couple fileserver boxes in here and the noise from the existing ones is causing the SO to complain
cheers & tia
SB
Actually the only way I find either slides or rotary "knobs" usable is when I can mouseover and use the scroll wheel to manipulate them :)
SB
No offense to the Gentoo guys, but I feel warmer and fuzzier knowing I can get my OS installed in minutes. We have a hacked-up version of Slackware that we install on our servers that is done in 5 minutes. That's pretty hard to beat.
:)
Works with Gentoo also, if you are installing on similar hardware. Just do it the first time (the "hacked-up" part) and make binaries, or alternatively tarzip the install. That's how I backup my installs for quick recovery. On different hw - other than a platform change - all that's really needed is a kernel reconfig/recompile. I have a generic AMD image for my machines that only requires changing the driver config for the kernel for different mobos/cards, and another for my two PII server boxes.
Anyway, I do agree about slackware - it's superb, and my second fave distro (Gentoo is my first
I wouldn't compare emerge with apt-get or installer scripts tho, there is a world of difference.
Cheers,
SB
Maybe Velikovsky was right ;-)
SB
Personally, I don't give a bleep if he changes the movies and releases any new versions he wishes to - as long as I can get cleaned up, UNALTERED versions of the originals - on DVD, as I saw them in the theater. (1977 in the Paramount Theater, Mason City, IA for example)
:-( )
Not saying I dislike the new versions, either - just that the originals are the ones nostalgic, bad sfx and all.
I own all three originals on VHS - with backup copies, and good thing, as the original VHS tapes are getting funky - and a laserdisc version, which I no longer have the hardware to play.
I'd PAY MONEY for digitally cleaned up versions on DVD, and I'm by far not the only person who would. Yo, George? You're ignoring a market!
(and yes, I do have divx versions of the originals - but their quality is even worse than the VHS versions
SB
Don't underestimate the powers of Magnetic Force.
SB
For a really big telescope, that's another advantage of being in space--you don't have to move it while imaging. Point it, and it keeps looking at the same object for as long as you want to integrate. On the Moon, you have to track objects across the sky.
:( and we probably would be better off putting up L-point observatories.
To some extent. Space based scopes still suffer from movement and vibration problems - movement, particularly in LEO, from gravitational tidal effects (which can rotate a scope, not much, but some, depending on how close it's center of gravity is to it's physical center and what variations terrestrial mascons produce) and varying densities of the Earth's atmosphere at that altitude (think solar panel orientation and drag). Space based can also suffer from movement induced by particle fluctuations, particularly the solar wind, light pressure; and of course let's not forget debris impacts.
Yeah, those are pretty small effects, but they still have to be dealt with. I don't know the numbers, but I'd bet they are on a par with any vibrations induced in a lunar scope from moonquakes and mechanical irregularities in the structure and drive mechanisms.
I'd like to see *two* lunar observatories - one at each pole. How long do you want that exposure to last again? *grin* plus at the poles there'll be somewhat less risk of micrometeroids and much less particle flux.
I hope the ESA can get Darwin up in the next couple decades, tho. If anything would be able to resolve Earth-sized and smaller planets around stars, Darwin would.
Of course any lunar observatory, even if automated, is going to be HUGELY expensive
Cheers,
SB
It must be in the Slow Zone, automation just doesn't work so well down there...
SB
PS thanks for your suggestion DITS & FOTD, you were right.
Here I thought we were "Mongel Hordes".
Sheesh. Rhinos, indeed.
I feel insulted.
SB
Now their famous.
Yeah, being made fools of can make people famous in todays entertainment. Briefly. Very briefly. Yay.
I'll pass, thank you.
Does anyone seriously think a movie will come out of this? Come on...
SB
Can anyone else think of a misssion that would exhaust 5-10 years worth of power? ;-)
:-D
The search for WMD on Mars?
SB
Heh. Well, I did buy Fire; that's why I thought I'd reread Deepness first, to refamiliarize myself with that universe. 40,000 years? Really? Wow. Vinge sure thinks deep.
If I can tear myself away from Deepness, I may just follow your recommendation. It'd be hard tho, that book is so DAMNED good.
Do you know, did Vinge write any other books in that universe?
Cheers!!
SB
Yeah, the binding is pretty much gone on mine, too. Sigh.
I haven't read FOTD yet, I just bought it; thought I'd reread DITS first and reacquaint myself with the universe. I've forgotten how good that book is and am taking my time. VERY much looking forward to FOTD.
Damnation that man can write!!
SB
DOH, major typo LOL. I meant hundreds OR thousands of meters, of course. Not often I do that
Another thought; to even push it off course with any efficiency we'd have to plant the nukes *below* the surface, so a part of the asteroid is kicked away - action/reaction. Detonating a nuke on or above the surface would give the rock some small kick from the hard particle front, but not much
Cheers
SB
"Braxxis009A, we are very sorry to report that Engineer839JA was intoxicated on blaaarg juice again, and due to his failure to oversee the maintenance on the steering jets in his sector, the Tentacle Of Destruction will miss the Third Planet this time around again."
Braxxis009A: "Dammit, it's so hard to find good help nowadays..."
SB
Larry Niven touched on some of that with the thoughts of his main character in "Inconstant Moon".
What would you do if you thought civilization would end in the next few hours?* His treatment of it is by far the best I've ever seen in a short story.
SB
* Hmm... poll material there also?
Another good argument for having permanent observation satellites in lunar orbit... it's not like it costs *that* much more to put them there rather than in Earth orbit
SB
Even if we could find a way to detonate every nuclear weapon we possess, at the same spot, on a 3 mile diameter asteroid it is not going to turn it into gravel; the asteroid will have it's orbit altered some, and *possibly* would fracture along it's internal fault lines.
The most likely result of such a fracture would be a small number of rocks with diameters ranging from a few tens of meters to hundreds of thousands of meters, and a small amount of gravel. A lot of that depends on what the composition of the asteroid is. If it's carbonaceous - like comets - there would be smaller fragments - if it's a stony or iron composition, it's unlikely we'd be able to fracture it at all, or if we could, then into very large chunks.
The REAL migraine there is that if the result was a lot of big chunks, their orbits would be altered enough that it's possible that they'd touch down at points distributed along the line of the Earth's rotation, thereby distributing the destruction even more widely. Remember, even a large ~ 3-8km-diameter asteroid's impact zone will be somewhat localized - even if it did alter the global climate, the worst effects would stay within one hemisphere. Not so with a time-distributed impact of many semi-large rocks.
Anything along these lines will have to be contemplated and modelled VERY carefully; the best data we could get would be if we had time to land probes on the asteroid in question and get seismic soundings of it's structure, and even then we'd still be playing with a lot of uncertaintities.
We should be pursuing studies and sending probes like this right now, so that if in the future the necessity emerges we at least have a good amount of data on many different rocks to use in our calculations, rather than some hurried-up last minute/year effort. But hell, this is all gibberish to most of those morons who make policy anyway, so what's the point of arguing it anymore in the public venue? Well, we need funding for those probes and studies... and like many other issues that need attention, this one is being ignored this year in favor of arguing over people's fucking war records from thirty years ago, and this in the country that is the world's most technologically capable society.
Sometimes I wonder if humanity as a whole hasn't already drank the koolaid.
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Sigh. Goddamn I hate election years.
SB
HI O WISE PRINCE. WHT TOOK U SO DAM LONG?
Thru some weird coincidence, I just read that part of Vinge's book only an hour or so before seeing your sig...
DeepnessITS is bloody wonderful, isn't it? I never seem to get tired of rereading it...
Cheers
SB
*nod* We can hope so.... me, I wonder what'll happen in a few generations when our miserable excuses for schools have produced the sheep they wanted
SB
I'd seen a few blurbs about the absorption. The ramifications didn't strike me until now. Thanks... I think.
:D
... well, I don't have to elaborate, do I?
:D
:(
ICE cold rage. One lousy pun traded for another?
Same buru+added+bururagecracy.
It's the old story... they multiply like rabbits, and with about the same distributed IQ. I'm not talking only about immigrants either, it's a parasitic relation now.
But I stand by what I said. At this point in time, uncontrolled immigration is more destructive than constructive. I hate that. I hate saying it. But I can't find anything to convince me that it isn't true.
Fuck. I'm only two generations removed from Ellis Island.
The morass creates jobs in the bea-ucratecy. Government feeds on itself until it self-destructs. Such is that way of nearly every political entity in history. Continuation of specialization in our government leads to
Don't have to teach me the concept of the self-feeding destructive feedback loop either, I've been watching it happen for nearly a quarter century.
Sorry if this is blunt, the Scotch/wash is good tonite, it's my Friday night. You kicked a few old stale brain cells into functional status
We're pretty well fucked. Once the disease spreads past a few organs than it's much harder to eliminate...
But, hey, cheers... I think
SB
That's the Metro-North Janitor's Lobby at work :D
:)
God Forbid that they actually have to pick up anything! Might violate their work contract, daresay.
(don't live out there, but have a friend who commutes and has had a lot to say about the M-N "maintenance"
Of course you can *hand* the paper to someone, they don't seem to have that one covered (yet).
No doubt they'll find some way to make that illegal someday...
SB
It may no longer be "applicable"; but it has been, and AFAIK is still, used against many marijuana offenders, often in cases where the other evidence against them (like in distribution cases) is shaky. It's just another way to bring charges.
There are articles on the NORML website and others, if you look.
SB
I for one will welcome our P2P distributed wireless network underlords... no matter how many hops it takes. :D
SB
To: satan@hell.gov
From: billg@MyValhalla.com
You're only pissed off because I hired your lawyers away, you cheap bastard. Whores and servants just can't compete with Swiss bank accounts. Add the A/C and they were mine, muwahahahaha!
-billg
PS: You might consider doing something about the climate down there. Hellfire and brimstone just can't compete with 300 days of rainfall. Sorry.