As it seems speaking your mind is less and less accepted. Ones again the church is at the frontier of squelzing ideas and expressions they don't like. And more and more I get the idea the world is on a one-way road to new dark-ages..
The only timescales of interest for this kind of decisions are "next elections" and "my time".
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Maybe. I know writing docu is not the most entertaining use of free time. But then again, most software I can get up and running with the README and INSTALL files plus tha man pages. A programname --help gives me usualy more than enough info. Maybe there's not enough "end-user" docu, but for me there more than enough "docu" in general. (besides, what's the last docu you got with windows, office etc..?)
The real problem at hand here is that there's way to much information. If you want to get up and running, endless files with class-descriptions and nitty-gritty details are not what you need. A simple, but compete application step by step will do the trick a lot better. A tutorial.
And there's hardly anything more frustrating than trying to follow such a tutorial and finding that the files, are not there, that extra parameters are needed, that userinterfaces have been changed completely etc.
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I tried a few times to get up and running with KDevelop. Have a KDE programmers book at home, tried every tutorial I could find.. And the results? The KDE programming book doesn't use KDevelop and the best result up till now is a KIO slave for hello world..
What I found to be the biggest problem with KDevelop is the lack of up to date documentation and tutorials. Whatever I found was always based on older versions, different templates etc. I haven't found 1 tutorial which I could go through from beginning to the end and end up with the results I should accourding to the description.
KDevelop is attractive to programmers who are not fluent in KDE, C++ and QT and lacking basic, but up to date and included, tutorials is IMHO one of the biggest things that stops new programmers from using it.
probably.. a quieter and innocent time. At least in those 30 years unix grew up and became what it is to day. Not perfect by any means but nicely on it's way as security and stability goes.
Windows on the other hand makes the same mistakes over and over, creates new holes for every fix and overall doesn't realy show any progress. Microsoft's priorities are simply not on security imho. Whatever they write in their press-releases.
First of all, most countries have perfectly good laws against stealing in whatever form. Imho the source of the problem here is to squeeze the last money out of a satured and quickly changing market.
Seconds, Digital Rights Management isn't the problem as such. We have a whole bunch of laws who do exactly that. The problem is in who's rights are being managed. And by who, and where is the balans. Rights are seldom absolute afterall. It's my copyrigth versus your right on a personal copy. Normaly it's the court who determines the balance, but in the case of soft- and hardware DRM sollutions it's the owner of the sollution..
DRM as discussed by the big copyright holders has everything to do with forcing their rights over my rights. And when it comes to the loss of rights, one cannot be paranoid enough. Some things lost are hard to get back: Innocence, freedom and rights to name a few..
What I feel is unfortunate is that I see the whole userexperience thing in walmart as a no-win situation due to the simple fact that the use runs as root. If sales fail it's: Linux isn't ready for the desktop. See, see... I told ya..
If it doesn't and it becomes an overnight success the world ends up with a whole lot of linux machines which are as unsafe as windows machines. Next step: a virus/trojan and woosh, there goes the public idea that unix is a more safe and virus resistent environment.
Of course, the details as that unix is usualy per default a lot more secure than a comparible windows machine get lost.
Checking my history books (even and especialy recent history) doesn't give me the idea that religion (as practished and not as a theory on how to run a society) has anything to do with accepting or refusing to push that button.
Especialy religiouse people seem to be able to do the most gruesome things when given the right reasons.
Actually I remember reading about a test where students were asked to torture someone who they couldn't see, but only here the results. If I remember correctly most of them pushed the button given the right pressure.
an other alike question could be: would you eat meat of you had to kill and butcher the cow yourself..
As it seems, as long as the receiving end is anonymouse and unseen, many people can get themself to do things which they wouldn't consider when they were there in real life.
I have photo's of my grand-grand parents. How big do you think the chance is that your over-grand-children can read the cdrom, dvd or whatever else you burn these photo's on?
I bet that a zillion gamers would install Linux just to be able to test Doom3. They have been waiting for>years!!
Yeah, and they would rush back to windows at the release of the next big title. In the meantime they would endlessly complain about everything which was to complicatied for their single-minded view.
If you want get people to use linux, they have to come for a better reason. That they can play their games under linux too is a very nice bonus.
sure.. only after a certain point you don't get support anymore.. new hardware is no longer supported etc. Maybe on your homemachine you get away with not upgrading, but then there are the problems with exchanging files etc. At company level it's not a question of "if" but "when" or "how often".
IMHO most people simply don't care.. Let's be real, there is still a big market for small radio's, walkmans etc. I'm sure that a nice ammount of the mp3 are just background music for while driving or working.
You could keep an checksup over the old story.. If the checksum changes, so did the story. Of course other problems remain, but for the paranoid among us it's a start..
>Hmm... I definitely agree that this practice is >underhanded, unethical, and plain rude, but why do >you say it is illegal?
He doesn't. He says that writing it in a EULA doesn't automatically make it legal. They can write whatever they want but it still has to be upheld in court.
They care, and we should care too.. Ptoblem is that most people oversimplify the problem. If this one euro per month job is the only job available you take it. No choice. Hopefully you have a big family..
Forcing even these jobs away means that there is nothing left. IF you want to see companies do the "right" thing, ask them what they do to change the circumstances. How many schools they started. etc. Offer half of the workingtime as schooltime as part of the payment. Posibilities enough where cheap labor and the rigth thing go hand in hand.
All it needs is the wish to make a difference and a little more long term focus..
But then again, a gun has only one rather specific specific use. Most modern p2p exchange programs can be used for legal and illegal purposes. Nobody ever claimed that all files swapped are illegal copies. It's just that killing the medium is easier than killing the messenger.
Imho a beter analogy would be knifes. While it is usualy illegal to kill people with knifes, no-one will blame the manufacturer for making them.
Actualy I do, at a rate of 2 BSOD's a week.. Of course that's only for unimportant "work related" stuff. My home system runs linux and hasn't been unvoluntairly down for a real long time now.. Neither have the systems which run my websites and databases..
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As it seems speaking your mind is less and less accepted. Ones again the church is at the frontier of squelzing ideas and expressions they don't like.
And more and more I get the idea the world is on a one-way road to new dark-ages..
The only timescales of interest for this kind of decisions are "next elections" and "my time".
Maybe. I know writing docu is not the most entertaining use of free time. But then again, most software I can get up and running with the README and INSTALL files plus tha man pages. A programname --help gives me usualy more than enough info.
Maybe there's not enough "end-user" docu, but for me there more than enough "docu" in general. (besides, what's the last docu you got with windows, office etc..?)
The real problem at hand here is that there's way to much information. If you want to get up and running, endless files with class-descriptions and nitty-gritty details are not what you need. A simple, but compete application step by step will do the trick a lot better. A tutorial.
And there's hardly anything more frustrating than trying to follow such a tutorial and finding that the files, are not there, that extra parameters are needed, that userinterfaces have been changed completely etc.
I tried a few times to get up and running with KDevelop. Have a KDE programmers book at home, tried every tutorial I could find.. And the results? The KDE programming book doesn't use KDevelop and the best result up till now is a KIO slave for hello world..
What I found to be the biggest problem with KDevelop is the lack of up to date documentation and tutorials. Whatever I found was always based on older versions, different templates etc. I haven't found 1 tutorial which I could go through from beginning to the end and end up with the results I should accourding to the description.
KDevelop is attractive to programmers who are not fluent in KDE, C++ and QT and lacking basic, but up to date and included, tutorials is IMHO one of the biggest things that stops new programmers from using it.
probably.. a quieter and innocent time. At least in those 30 years unix grew up and became what it is to day. Not perfect by any means but nicely on it's way as security and stability goes.
Windows on the other hand makes the same mistakes over and over, creates new holes for every fix and overall doesn't realy show any progress.
Microsoft's priorities are simply not on security imho. Whatever they write in their press-releases.
First of all, most countries have perfectly good laws against stealing in whatever form. Imho the source of the problem here is to squeeze the last money out of a satured and quickly changing market.
Seconds, Digital Rights Management isn't the problem as such. We have a whole bunch of laws who do exactly that. The problem is in who's rights are being managed. And by who, and where is the balans. Rights are seldom absolute afterall.
It's my copyrigth versus your right on a personal copy. Normaly it's the court who determines the balance, but in the case of soft- and hardware DRM sollutions it's the owner of the sollution..
DRM as discussed by the big copyright holders has everything to do with forcing their rights over my rights. And when it comes to the loss of rights, one cannot be paranoid enough.
Some things lost are hard to get back: Innocence, freedom and rights to name a few..
What I feel is unfortunate is that I see the whole userexperience thing in walmart as a no-win situation due to the simple fact that the use runs as root.
If sales fail it's: Linux isn't ready for the desktop. See, see... I told ya..
If it doesn't and it becomes an overnight success the world ends up with a whole lot of linux machines which are as unsafe as windows machines.
Next step: a virus/trojan and woosh, there goes the public idea that unix is a more safe and virus resistent environment.
Of course, the details as that unix is usualy per default a lot more secure than a comparible windows machine get lost.
Oh well, let's hope I'm just in a dark mood..
Maybe, but wasn't sourceforge making money by selling the advanced version to companies?
Rather bad when your customer can't reach the demo..;)
Checking my history books (even and especialy recent history) doesn't give me the idea that religion (as practished and not as a theory on how to run a society) has anything to do with accepting or refusing to push that button.
Especialy religiouse people seem to be able to do the most gruesome things when given the right reasons.
Actually I remember reading about a test where students were asked to torture someone who they couldn't see, but only here the results. If I remember correctly most of them pushed the button given the right pressure.
an other alike question could be: would you eat meat of you had to kill and butcher the cow yourself..
As it seems, as long as the receiving end is anonymouse and unseen, many people can get themself to do things which they wouldn't consider when they were there in real life.
sure, and how long before those last 10 pages are scanned, OCR'ed and put online too.. Just to tease back..
;)
(or does that make OCR fall under the DCMA?
I have photo's of my grand-grand parents. How big do you think the chance is that your over-grand-children can read the cdrom, dvd or whatever else you burn these photo's on?
Sure, It's just that I'm sure that people who change OS for a single game change back as easy for an other game.
;)
And don't forget, even administrators like to play games (just installed scummvm to reply Day of the Tentacle!
I bet that a zillion gamers would install Linux just to be able to test Doom3. They have been waiting for>years!!
Yeah, and they would rush back to windows at the release of the next big title. In the meantime they would endlessly complain about everything which was to complicatied for their single-minded view.
If you want get people to use linux, they have to come for a better reason. That they can play their games under linux too is a very nice bonus.
> If you don't want the change, don't upgrade.
sure.. only after a certain point you don't get support anymore.. new hardware is no longer supported etc. Maybe on your homemachine you get away with not upgrading, but then there are the problems with exchanging files etc. At company level it's not a
question of "if" but "when" or "how often".
At least you can see if someone's listening or the phone is on the table..
wouldn't that attract the cops like flies to the honey?
IMHO most people simply don't care.. Let's be real, there is still a big market for small radio's, walkmans etc. I'm sure that a nice ammount of the mp3 are just background music for while driving or working.
You could keep an checksup over the old story.. If the checksum changes, so did the story. Of course other problems remain, but for the paranoid among us it's a start..
>Hmm... I definitely agree that this practice is
>underhanded, unethical, and plain rude, but why do
>you say it is illegal?
He doesn't. He says that writing it in a EULA doesn't automatically make it legal. They can write whatever they want but it still has to be upheld in court.
They care, and we should care too.. Ptoblem is that most people oversimplify the problem. If this one euro per month job is the only job available you take it. No choice. Hopefully you have a big family..
Forcing even these jobs away means that there is nothing left. IF you want to see companies do the "right" thing, ask them what they do to change the circumstances. How many schools they started. etc.
Offer half of the workingtime as schooltime as part of the payment. Posibilities enough where cheap labor and the rigth thing go hand in hand.
All it needs is the wish to make a difference and a little more long term focus..
Exactly. Their used to kill. That's one specific use.. While hunting may be legal, the idea is still to change alife into death.
But then again, a gun has only one rather specific specific use. Most modern p2p exchange programs can be used for legal and illegal purposes. Nobody ever claimed that all files swapped are illegal copies. It's just that killing the medium is easier than killing the messenger.
Imho a beter analogy would be knifes. While it is usualy illegal to kill people with knifes, no-one will blame the manufacturer for making them.
Actualy I do, at a rate of 2 BSOD's a week.. Of course that's only for unimportant "work related" stuff. My home system runs linux and hasn't been unvoluntairly down for a real long time now.. Neither have the systems which run my websites and databases..
>PS: let's just consider the fact that everyone is :)
>already familiar with the 'mozilla bloat'
>jokes/comments and we don't need to rehash
>them
Mozilla bloaded? With IE i ask for a browser and I get a complete OS to go with it.. How's that for bloated..