Offense taken. Your response was pretty poorly though out. Perhaps you should stop "breathing".
I couldn't imagine the horror of being a recorded musician and having people messing around with my carefully crafted tracks.
So don't release for that format. It's a free country. I am a musician, and if someone wanted to re-mix my music, I would be flattered. People remix the HELL out of everything these days, it's not like you could stop them.
Add to that the fact that your "effects script" concept is inherently flawed, in that non-digital effects (ie, real stuff like overdriven tubes or even just a particular fuzzbox) are used extensively in music production
Well, since you would have a hard time seperating a tube amp's 'distortion' from the gutar's sound in the first place, I'm not quite sure why you bring it up. However, I was more speaking of post-production effects. Most analogue effects are recorded inline or off an effects send straight onto the master track with the instrument, making it inseperable from the instrument track.
The crazy schemes people came up with were often an affront to God
Yeah, but where they happy with them? Who gives a rat's ass what a desinger thinks. Where they content?
Most people will just listen to the basic album. A few will fool around with the remixing features that the format presents. A very select few will produce brilliant re-mixings, that they will share with other fans, and thus enhance the recording's value to the fans. Who knows? There might be a few brillant studio engineers that start careers this way.
Anyway, its moot what you think. I was just observing a trend. The studios have to give consumers reasons to re-purchase old recordings. They do this through added value, such as re-mastering, or 5.1 surround sound. I am just pointing out the logical limit to which this can be taken.
First off, I do not support the war in Iraq, so I am not defending the US being there. However, none of the Iraqui people being shot are being killed because of their political beliefs, they are being killed because they are throwing greandes at soldiers. That isn't persecution. Oh, and those persecuted souls that are killing government officials and humanitarian aid workers - they are just mis-understood, right?
Again, choosing to be a 'freedomfighter' or whatever you want to label the resistance in Iraq is not the same as being the victim of a facist regime. If you truly feel that the political leadership of America is simply that evil, why aren't you forming a resistance movement to stop it? Or are you one of those moral cowards like the perople who quietly stepped aside in 1933? I'm sure that there are plenty of people hiding in the hills of Idaho that will welcome you with open arms.
Your worldview seems to be very polarized. There are other colors besided balck and white, you know.
Your comments are insightful, however you make a point of suggesting that I am forcing my ideas about personal freedom on others, and yet isn't this what the government of China is doing by censoring information in the press and on the Internet?
You make a point that the media is always controlled by someone, and that the person in charge will always have self interests, but wouldn't it be better to have choices as to where you get information? I can listen to the crazy right wing nuts on FOX news if I choose to or I can tune in to NPR. Each news agency is free to pursue it's own path. (You are quite right about how America centered the media is here in general, as I mentioned I like to read the news as reported by other contries to get their view of important issues.) Also, there is information that isn't appropriate for everybody, such as children and the Internet. But isn't it the responsability of children's parents to decide what they should or shouldn't see? I don't know about your government, but mine is packed with idiots. I can't trust them to buy lightbulbs without having to form a comittee, let alone decide what should of should not be available on the Internet.
China has avery long history, and interesting philosophy. I think that the US is somewhat short-sighted in it's thinking, and we could probably take a few lessions from China in that respect. But really when it comes right down to it, do you think that the communtist party has the 'mandate of heaven'? (Do people in china still use that phrase?)
I have been predicting for several years that the ultimate file format that everybody may eventually adopt is a compressed, non-lossy copy of the masters used for a given song, plus a fader moves script and an effects script.
Think about it, the stones have introduced their remastered collection on the new 5.1 CD format. Beyond that home theater has 6.1 and 7.1, and a few other formats that I'm sure I have never heard of. The trend is toward more data being given to the listener in a recording. The logical conclusion is a copy of the master. By including a fader move script and effects script, I can play the recording as it was created by the studio engineer. Or, perhaps I am a fan of the band's bassist, so I push the bass to the front of the mix. Mabey I like the bootygrove music, so I dump the drumline and dub in a drum machine backing track. Perhaps I like to have my rap music with disgusting bass, so I crank all the bass in my favorite gangsta ditty. I can also fool with the balance, effects, etc. as much as I want.
As digital processing power gets cheaper, doing real-time remixing with 24 tracks in realtime becomes a viable option. You already have something similar going on in video games.
Personally, I hope this happens in my lifetime. I can think of several albums that I love that I would spend $100 to have a high quality copy of the master, just to be able to fool with them and listen to the results.
Well, the whole first paragraph minus the last sentence goes for the USA as well.
While I don't like the current political leadership of the country, I don't think it's quite accurate to compare the Bush presidentcy with say, a communist totalitarian dictatorship. Halliburton may be packed with selfish and greedy individuals, but I don't equate them with a Communist death squad.
What am I going to do? For one, I am not going to compare the leadership of the country with Mao, Hitler and Stalin, becuase it makes one sound like a paranoid alarmist, and causes people to disregard your otherwise worthwile observations.
You replied to my post about overthrowing the government. While I was making a joke about how the Government of China has a tendicy to censor websites that it doesn't like, It is wonderful to get a Chinese citiczen's perspective on things. Hello, it is a pleasure to chat with you.
Chinese people are very very sensitive to Taiwan's issue. IT'S NOT THE GOVERNMENT. It doesn't matter with communist party at all.
Why is that? Do your people feel that strongly that the people of Taiwan shouldn't be allowed to be their own country?
Since the Communist party has control of all the sources of Media, such as Televisions and News Papers, how can you be certain how the people really feel about Taiwan? If the party wanted to stir up passionate feeling about the subject, they could quite easily, couldn't they?
Here in America, we are quite devided about president Bush being re-elected. Half the country loves him, and half the country hates him. The only way I can say that I know that, is because anyone who wants to can say, 'George Bush sucks, and ought to be thrown out of office'. If he completely controlled the media, he could supress stories that were critical of him. If the government of China really wanted to keep Taiwan, wouldn't it be in it's interest in making sure that everyone though that it was the people and not the government that was outraged?
I can image the ban of this game make lot of sense in China.
If it is really a hot topic that bothers people, then why bother to ban it? In America if a video game was in really poor taste, most people simply wouldn't buy it.
Why Chinese want to access this English site? Do you guys want to read Chinese site?
Actually, yes. I find China to be a very interesting country. I wish I could read Chinese, so I could surf sites other than ones that were translated. I study Shaolin Kung-Fu, and I find Chinese history and culture to be facinating.
It doesn't matter it's banned or not since no real Chinese in China are going to access them at all, period.
This is true. However, more people in China will be able to read them if they aren't banned. If Slashdot was banned, you wouldn't have been able to chat with me, would you?;-)
It just shows that the Government of China is scared that people will be exposed to other culture, and perhaps decide that Communisim isn't a good idea. Karl Marks had some wonderful sounding ideas, but to date, all the communist governments have had to control their people with force, and restrict information that they get. If Communisim is so great, why should they have to worry about restricting things? Wouldn't people be able to decide for themselves?
I'm not saying that the USA is a perfect country. Far from it. My goal isn't to taunt China or make fun of the people. From the outside, it appears that you guys are getting screwed over in a big way by your government's behavior. I'd just like to see you have the freedom to choose what you watch and read, and the freedom to decide who leads you.
And, by the way, your English isn't bad. You speak it at least as well as half of America...;-)
China, wake up! You are being ruled by a pack of brutal psychopaths that only care about their own pampered asses! Overthrow them and their corrupt government. You are many and they are few, only fear can keep you from the freedom to do, read, and think whatever you wish. Only the dictators that rule your contry are keeping you from taking you rightful place as one of the world's great nations! Remeber Tiananmen!
That should pretty much put an end to slashdot's Chinese readership. If a revolution starts in China tomorow, I get credit for starting it!
I've wondered for years when someone would write the first true 'genetic algorithim' based worm/virus. It would be a fantastic and alternately, horrible landmark in computer science.
However, there is no point in designing a fitness evaluation. In real natural processes, the fitness evaluation is competition for resources. The only reason why it has to be introduced into modeled simulations is that there is no real competition in a model unless you include it. The real fitness evaluator of a virus is how easily it can spread, how hard it is to detect, and how difficult it is to remove.
Um, according to these figures the average age of these "children" in each country was barely five months old (15/40 =.375 years old). Something's fishy here.
Yeah, you did the math wrong. 15/40 = 55. It should be obvious that they aren't 375 years old. Duh.
EA Games is sure a bunch of nice, and mis-understood people. The president is a great guy, and it has only now come to his attention that there are massive and (possible illegal?) employee exploitation practices going on at his company. But since he is such a great person and he knows about the problem now, he will get to the bottom of things, and remove the evil middle managers that implimented such policies.
While his statements aren't this silly, I really doubt that he was unaware of the problem. This seems like a spin move to disrupt employee solidarity and the possible class action lawsuit that is being organized. It's exactly what I would do to try to drive a pre-emptive wedge in their ranks and avoid a costly lawsuit.
You can play the game of trying to reprogram your TIVO to keep up with the network's changes, but why bother?
It seems that most television these days are just crappy reality TV shows, and tired formulaic sitcoms. Other than the Daily Show, I haven't missed much TV since I stopped watching it.
This isn't a tirade against watching TV in general, I just found that most of the content these days isn't worth the time it takes to watch it. Shouldn't the networks be making it SIMPLER to consume their product with all the activities that compete for people's free time these days?
Please, tell me about how flu shots are for mind control and that a 757 really didn't crash into the Pentagon.
You know about that too? SHHHHHHHHH! The MIBs have spies everywhere! I hope you are wearing a tin-foil hat while you are typing so they can't intercept your postings...
You assume that encryption will protect you. Go get any cryptography handbook, and the first thing it will say is that it is impossible to create an algorithim that is capable of producing unbreakable code. The goal of encryption is to make it so someone cannot break it in a certain time period.
If you are relying on SSL and consider yourself immune to spying, you are in for a suprise. If they want to spy on you badly enough, they can. It just takes more work with encryption.
Carnivore is the FBI's toy. Carnivore is great when you can get a court order to let you put it on an ISP's trunks. It is pretty useless when the ISP is say, in North Korea.
Correct, at least as far as public rumors about secret government spying software goes. However, the Carnivore project is FBI. The FBI doesn't work for the CIA, so why would you expect them to actually work together?
Also, technically, the FBI are just federal cops, as opposed to state cops or local cops. The CIA is an intelligence agency (spies), and so they might not want the exact same sort of application.
You can't simply get a court order to slap Carnivore on an ISP's lines when the ISP in question is say, in North Korea.
Yeah, but you don't have physical control over the pipes between yor server and all your clients. How do you think your bits get sent back and forth? I just have to put an intercept between you and your clients to grab all the data I want.
This would be some sort of program that can sit on an ISP's trunks, and grab all traffic that looked like IRC traffic and dump it in a log. Since it is the CIA, (And they are in theory, the Intelligence 'Offense') it might be a small embedded hardware solution that has a built in microdrive. It would be very handy to have a CIA controled operative slip in to a NOC in a hostile country, snap it onto a trunk in an unobtrusice location and pick it up a month later.
American Tinfoil hat people, relax. The FBI is the group spying on you, not the CIA.
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Offense taken. Your response was pretty poorly though out. Perhaps you should stop "breathing".
I couldn't imagine the horror of being a recorded musician and having people messing around with my carefully crafted tracks.
So don't release for that format. It's a free country. I am a musician, and if someone wanted to re-mix my music, I would be flattered. People remix the HELL out of everything these days, it's not like you could stop them.
Add to that the fact that your "effects script" concept is inherently flawed, in that non-digital effects (ie, real stuff like overdriven tubes or even just a particular fuzzbox) are used extensively in music production
Well, since you would have a hard time seperating a tube amp's 'distortion' from the gutar's sound in the first place, I'm not quite sure why you bring it up. However, I was more speaking of post-production effects. Most analogue effects are recorded inline or off an effects send straight onto the master track with the instrument, making it inseperable from the instrument track.
The crazy schemes people came up with were often an affront to God
Yeah, but where they happy with them? Who gives a rat's ass what a desinger thinks. Where they content?
Most people will just listen to the basic album. A few will fool around with the remixing features that the format presents. A very select few will produce brilliant re-mixings, that they will share with other fans, and thus enhance the recording's value to the fans. Who knows? There might be a few brillant studio engineers that start careers this way.
Anyway, its moot what you think. I was just observing a trend. The studios have to give consumers reasons to re-purchase old recordings. They do this through added value, such as re-mastering, or 5.1 surround sound. I am just pointing out the logical limit to which this can be taken.
No, but you're not an Iraqi.
First off, I do not support the war in Iraq, so I am not defending the US being there. However, none of the Iraqui people being shot are being killed because of their political beliefs, they are being killed because they are throwing greandes at soldiers. That isn't persecution. Oh, and those persecuted souls that are killing government officials and humanitarian aid workers - they are just mis-understood, right?
Again, choosing to be a 'freedomfighter' or whatever you want to label the resistance in Iraq is not the same as being the victim of a facist regime. If you truly feel that the political leadership of America is simply that evil, why aren't you forming a resistance movement to stop it? Or are you one of those moral cowards like the perople who quietly stepped aside in 1933? I'm sure that there are plenty of people hiding in the hills of Idaho that will welcome you with open arms.
Your worldview seems to be very polarized. There are other colors besided balck and white, you know.
Your comments are insightful, however you make a point of suggesting that I am forcing my ideas about personal freedom on others, and yet isn't this what the government of China is doing by censoring information in the press and on the Internet?
You make a point that the media is always controlled by someone, and that the person in charge will always have self interests, but wouldn't it be better to have choices as to where you get information? I can listen to the crazy right wing nuts on FOX news if I choose to or I can tune in to NPR. Each news agency is free to pursue it's own path. (You are quite right about how America centered the media is here in general, as I mentioned I like to read the news as reported by other contries to get their view of important issues.) Also, there is information that isn't appropriate for everybody, such as children and the Internet. But isn't it the responsability of children's parents to decide what they should or shouldn't see? I don't know about your government, but mine is packed with idiots. I can't trust them to buy lightbulbs without having to form a comittee, let alone decide what should of should not be available on the Internet.
China has avery long history, and interesting philosophy. I think that the US is somewhat short-sighted in it's thinking, and we could probably take a few lessions from China in that respect. But really when it comes right down to it, do you think that the communtist party has the 'mandate of heaven'? (Do people in china still use that phrase?)
I have been predicting for several years that the ultimate file format that everybody may eventually adopt is a compressed, non-lossy copy of the masters used for a given song, plus a fader moves script and an effects script.
Think about it, the stones have introduced their remastered collection on the new 5.1 CD format. Beyond that home theater has 6.1 and 7.1, and a few other formats that I'm sure I have never heard of. The trend is toward more data being given to the listener in a recording. The logical conclusion is a copy of the master. By including a fader move script and effects script, I can play the recording as it was created by the studio engineer. Or, perhaps I am a fan of the band's bassist, so I push the bass to the front of the mix. Mabey I like the bootygrove music, so I dump the drumline and dub in a drum machine backing track. Perhaps I like to have my rap music with disgusting bass, so I crank all the bass in my favorite gangsta ditty. I can also fool with the balance, effects, etc. as much as I want.
As digital processing power gets cheaper, doing real-time remixing with 24 tracks in realtime becomes a viable option. You already have something similar going on in video games.
Personally, I hope this happens in my lifetime. I can think of several albums that I love that I would spend $100 to have a high quality copy of the master, just to be able to fool with them and listen to the results.
Well, the whole first paragraph minus the last sentence goes for the USA as well.
While I don't like the current political leadership of the country, I don't think it's quite accurate to compare the Bush presidentcy with say, a communist totalitarian dictatorship. Halliburton may be packed with selfish and greedy individuals, but I don't equate them with a Communist death squad.
What am I going to do? For one, I am not going to compare the leadership of the country with Mao, Hitler and Stalin, becuase it makes one sound like a paranoid alarmist, and causes people to disregard your otherwise worthwile observations.
I'm native Chinese from Beijing.
;-)
;-)
You replied to my post about overthrowing the government. While I was making a joke about how the Government of China has a tendicy to censor websites that it doesn't like, It is wonderful to get a Chinese citiczen's perspective on things. Hello, it is a pleasure to chat with you.
Chinese people are very very sensitive to Taiwan's issue. IT'S NOT THE GOVERNMENT. It doesn't matter with communist party at all.
Why is that? Do your people feel that strongly that the people of Taiwan shouldn't be allowed to be their own country?
Since the Communist party has control of all the sources of Media, such as Televisions and News Papers, how can you be certain how the people really feel about Taiwan? If the party wanted to stir up passionate feeling about the subject, they could quite easily, couldn't they?
Here in America, we are quite devided about president Bush being re-elected. Half the country loves him, and half the country hates him. The only way I can say that I know that, is because anyone who wants to can say, 'George Bush sucks, and ought to be thrown out of office'. If he completely controlled the media, he could supress stories that were critical of him. If the government of China really wanted to keep Taiwan, wouldn't it be in it's interest in making sure that everyone though that it was the people and not the government that was outraged?
I can image the ban of this game make lot of sense in China.
If it is really a hot topic that bothers people, then why bother to ban it? In America if a video game was in really poor taste, most people simply wouldn't buy it.
Why Chinese want to access this English site? Do you guys want to read Chinese site?
Actually, yes. I find China to be a very interesting country. I wish I could read Chinese, so I could surf sites other than ones that were translated. I study Shaolin Kung-Fu, and I find Chinese history and culture to be facinating.
It doesn't matter it's banned or not since no real Chinese in China are going to access them at all, period.
This is true. However, more people in China will be able to read them if they aren't banned. If Slashdot was banned, you wouldn't have been able to chat with me, would you?
It just shows that the Government of China is scared that people will be exposed to other culture, and perhaps decide that Communisim isn't a good idea. Karl Marks had some wonderful sounding ideas, but to date, all the communist governments have had to control their people with force, and restrict information that they get. If Communisim is so great, why should they have to worry about restricting things? Wouldn't people be able to decide for themselves?
I'm not saying that the USA is a perfect country. Far from it. My goal isn't to taunt China or make fun of the people. From the outside, it appears that you guys are getting screwed over in a big way by your government's behavior. I'd just like to see you have the freedom to choose what you watch and read, and the freedom to decide who leads you.
And, by the way, your English isn't bad. You speak it at least as well as half of America...
China, wake up! You are being ruled by a pack of brutal psychopaths that only care about their own pampered asses! Overthrow them and their corrupt government. You are many and they are few, only fear can keep you from the freedom to do, read, and think whatever you wish. Only the dictators that rule your contry are keeping you from taking you rightful place as one of the world's great nations! Remeber Tiananmen!
That should pretty much put an end to slashdot's Chinese readership. If a revolution starts in China tomorow, I get credit for starting it!
I've wondered for years when someone would write the first true 'genetic algorithim' based worm/virus. It would be a fantastic and alternately, horrible landmark in computer science.
However, there is no point in designing a fitness evaluation. In real natural processes, the fitness evaluation is competition for resources. The only reason why it has to be introduced into modeled simulations is that there is no real competition in a model unless you include it. The real fitness evaluator of a virus is how easily it can spread, how hard it is to detect, and how difficult it is to remove.
...but this just made my christmas! Since Santa seems to think I have been a good boy, I have a few more things to ask for...
1) A video tape of rival gangs of spammers getting in knife fights over ISP bandwith 'turf'.
2) Microsoft's Yakuzza getting irritated with SCO's failures to bring down Linux, and doing drive-bys shootings to the board menbers.
3) George Bush Jr. getting in a sissy slap-fight with John Ashcroft over the pronunciation of the word 'Nucular'.
...The severance package was particularly generous, as it include two AOL trial CDs, with a combined total of 2048 free hours.
I find it ledicrist tha peopel that live in there mothurs basement canot make their time to spelcheek befor psoting to the slasdot.
Um, according to these figures the average age of these "children" in each country was barely five months old (15/40 = .375 years old). Something's fishy here.
Yeah, you did the math wrong. 15/40 = 55. It should be obvious that they aren't 375 years old. Duh.
How much longer will it be until we have a worldwide "people" database? How long until it has 6.x billion entries?
OOH! I want to sign up for that now. With luck, I can get a low ID number, and nobody will ever be able to flip me shit again about being a n00b!
Wikinews explicitly allows original reporting, making it somewhat similar to Indymedia, while adhering to a strict Neutral Point of View policy.
That is a real shame. Personally, i was looking forward to doing some http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_S_Thompson GOZO REPORTING...
I'm going to be living to 1000 and cleaning up on low yeild, long term investments!
EA Games is sure a bunch of nice, and mis-understood people. The president is a great guy, and it has only now come to his attention that there are massive and (possible illegal?) employee exploitation practices going on at his company. But since he is such a great person and he knows about the problem now, he will get to the bottom of things, and remove the evil middle managers that implimented such policies.
While his statements aren't this silly, I really doubt that he was unaware of the problem. This seems like a spin move to disrupt employee solidarity and the possible class action lawsuit that is being organized. It's exactly what I would do to try to drive a pre-emptive wedge in their ranks and avoid a costly lawsuit.
SCO called, they want their space back
You can play the game of trying to reprogram your TIVO to keep up with the network's changes, but why bother?
It seems that most television these days are just crappy reality TV shows, and tired formulaic sitcoms. Other than the Daily Show, I haven't missed much TV since I stopped watching it.
This isn't a tirade against watching TV in general, I just found that most of the content these days isn't worth the time it takes to watch it. Shouldn't the networks be making it SIMPLER to consume their product with all the activities that compete for people's free time these days?
Please, tell me about how flu shots are for mind control and that a 757 really didn't crash into the Pentagon.
You know about that too? SHHHHHHHHH! The MIBs have spies everywhere! I hope you are wearing a tin-foil hat while you are typing so they can't intercept your postings...
She drapes herself in loose-leaf copies of the federal tax code?
Don't be thick, he is OBVIOUSLY saying that she has clad herself in pro-SCO articles from the newspapaer.
She is obviously mental. Dump her.
But can they use stem cells to make my wife put out again?
I don't get it. I have no problem getting your wife to put out. All my friends say she is insatiable in bed.
You assume that encryption will protect you. Go get any cryptography handbook, and the first thing it will say is that it is impossible to create an algorithim that is capable of producing unbreakable code. The goal of encryption is to make it so someone cannot break it in a certain time period.
If you are relying on SSL and consider yourself immune to spying, you are in for a suprise. If they want to spy on you badly enough, they can. It just takes more work with encryption.
Carnivore is the FBI's toy. Carnivore is great when you can get a court order to let you put it on an ISP's trunks. It is pretty useless when the ISP is say, in North Korea.
FBI = Cops. CIA = Spies.
Correct, at least as far as public rumors about secret government spying software goes. However, the Carnivore project is FBI. The FBI doesn't work for the CIA, so why would you expect them to actually work together?
Also, technically, the FBI are just federal cops, as opposed to state cops or local cops. The CIA is an intelligence agency (spies), and so they might not want the exact same sort of application. You can't simply get a court order to slap Carnivore on an ISP's lines when the ISP in question is say, in North Korea.
Yeah, but you don't have physical control over the pipes between yor server and all your clients. How do you think your bits get sent back and forth? I just have to put an intercept between you and your clients to grab all the data I want.
This would be some sort of program that can sit on an ISP's trunks, and grab all traffic that looked like IRC traffic and dump it in a log. Since it is the CIA, (And they are in theory, the Intelligence 'Offense') it might be a small embedded hardware solution that has a built in microdrive. It would be very handy to have a CIA controled operative slip in to a NOC in a hostile country, snap it onto a trunk in an unobtrusice location and pick it up a month later.
American Tinfoil hat people, relax. The FBI is the group spying on you, not the CIA.