no shit people don't want to know about open or closed source, dependencies, distros, gnome/kde/E/whatever. They want to turna computer on and have do what they want it to: Read email, surf for porn (which means it must handle all sorts of graphics, movies and sounds from the web) play their music collection (in any format just as long as the format is popular enenough that it can be got from the internet without too much hassle) make x-mas cards for grandma, store recipies, do some word processing, maybe a spreadsheet with a groovy chart that can be tacked to and from work. That's it, joe and jane users do not care about multi-threading, apache servers, c, c++, glib, make, make install, make clean, databases, servers, xservers, sound servers, yo momma servers. To them servers are giant machines in the IT depatment of their job, and if you tell them they need to runa server the get scared and think that they'll need a giant piece of equipment.
For linux to be accepted by the masses (aka herd animals) it needs to be as easy as windows to install: linux needs to scan the ALL (includeing Xfree86! seriously how hard can that be? i mean if windows can do it, why the hell can't X?) hardware and setup drives for itself, and the show examples of differetn desktops and ask which one the user finds the prettiest (but still allows for the easy switching later on) and boom that's it all done, it should take no more than 2 clicks to install. and wehn the computer is turned on it should go automatically straight to the desktop of choice, no loging in, no authorization, just the desktop, which needs to be designed with so that a 2 year old can use it.
all that fancy stuff is for the hobbiest, and hopefull will one day become something the herd will use but not until after several years of scrutiny from the ubergeek crowd. So make a linux that is simple so a child of 2 could understand it and you will then see mass acceptance of linux
i worked for vodafone in their SMS dept., before the stupid selfish cunts fired me, but i digress.
what we found was as long as the servers were running properly, and if the code was up on its logic, and the receiving phone was turned on, then everything worked. 99% of all sms failures were due to issues with the receiving hand set: not on, low battery, out of area, etc. Of course the big wigs didn't want to hear that cuz they all a bunch of cocksmokers, who could tell the difference between their own ass and a hole in the ground, even if spotted them 2 butt checks, but i'm not bitter
man no one here has any faith in hollywood. adn for good reason too! anyone see that shameful butching of "Fist of the North Star" live action deal? i damn near took a crap on my tv to show my distaste for that. And so with many things hollywood will make some cheesy cross between power rangers and godzilla which will only make anime that much more unatractive to the non anime watching crowd. Thanks hollywood for improperly using your galatic powers of influence adn mind control yet again. You do know that there is a special place in hell you yous guys for all of thecrap that you been putting out don't you? eh what does it matter just so long as you can make billions that you can't take with you when the reaper man comes for you riding tall on his mighty pale stead, Binky, you're happy right?
um, if sol was a binary system then wouldn't sol's twin be the cloest star, not that alpha centuri thing. Also wouldn,t we get sun sets like those on tatoonie ?
i have a sony c1mv and i use a serial to usb converter for my gps antenna and it works great. I haven tried other serial devices, but i can't imagen there being any big problems.
Also i have marginal success loading Suse linux on it, although all the extra stuff like the memstick reader, cpu throteling, lcd dimmer, camera, etc don't work too well, but i'm still hacking at it.
But if you do get one, or have one i highly suggest searching eBay for the quad battery, i can get about 8 hours at high performance, and clsoe to 12 hours use powersaveing features. That with a wireless nic makes a very sweet mobile system.
if you're talking about the book from SAMS "PHP and MySQL Web Development" i agree with you. It's a great book for beginners to PHP and MySQL. I was completely new to both and now i use PHP adn MySQL every chance i get. Although i now use www.mysql.com and www.php.net for reference, and the book sits quitely on my shelf doing a good job of collectiong dust.
I haven't used my floppy drive for 2 years, until i got a virus (damn you bastard kazaa user) and then i needed them for rescue disks. But ther than that with bootable cd roms and other devices the Floppy is dead for me. I've just startign using sony (or wanna be sony cuz they is cheaper) memsticks to tansfer files between computers during the rare times my network is down, or whenmy roomate keys up the 2.4Ghz phoen and knocks out my wi-fi. too bad you can't boot off a memstick....
i hate articles like these, you know, the articles that give a sensational headline and then the body has 0!, no!, none!, not a bit of proper supporting evidence. There are number of reasons why Linux boxes could be attacked more this year than windows boxes, each of which completely changes the tone of the article, but unfortunately do not make for good journalism. And that's what it's all about these days, fuck the story, just tell it in an interesting way. The public doesn't care what it's eating, just as long as it comes wrapped in a BigMac warpper. I don't know about you, but i'm sick of being treated like this. Please Slashdot, no more articles like this.
oh and the real reason why more linux boxes will be attacked this year is becasue there are more Linux boxes this year than previously and Linux box owners report attacks more offen than the window user that probably doesn't even know he is a victim of attacks.
palying computer games does not casue a lack of activity, but casues specialized activity. As you repeat a function over and over again (such as pick up rocket launch, fire at bad guy, whatch bad guys limbs fly, laugh, and repeat) the neurons in your brain start forming hard whire connection. As this activity continues your brain will no longer send out the message wildly in hopes the the right recepter picks it up but sends hte message to perfomr the above activity striaght to the proper recepter (much like when omlimpic competitors say they just do action without thinking about it). So when studies like this show a lack of brain activity, what they are show is a lack of useless brain activity when to brain is functioning quite optimally. Aa for nonreversal effects? BULLSHIT! after a time of not using the new neural pathways the hard links will wither adn eventually break off.
As for people being iritable, of course they are, when your brians get wired for a certian function and then you try and stop that function of course you are going to be iritable. Are you not iritable ater you get home form work? Why do you think people need some down (or "cave" as it's said in a popular book) time when they get home. The need time to rewire their brains from work mode to home mode. unfortunately the time needed for proper rewireing is a couple of days, which is why it's a good thing people have vactaions or their would be more office shootings.
I was read an artical in the Wall Street journal that said electric razors casue lukemia. They printed this because out of 100 lukemia patients surveyed, all of them use electric razors. Don't believe what you read, and although i'm not one to shatter your hard held beliefs, but just becasue it's on the internet, does not make it true.
it's good to knwo that more than just myself have been thinking that it's time for the users to raise their level of participation rather than manufactures lowering the level of theri product. Praise be! now maybe the tech world can get a move on and creat all those moving sidwalks, flying cars, tansports and phasers that we have been promised.
the point is that Sears, Staples, and Target don't broadcast credit card information, nor the digital signature they get form those damn big brother pads over the air un-encrypted for any schmuk to snag.
does one have to be lazy to want to have all the features of their portable devices combined into one? or maybe people are just looking for efficency....
not really needed. I don't have to have a credited engineer come build a windmill, car, boat, etc for me. Ultimately as humans we are responsible for ourselves. I will mostlikely not buy a car that was manufactured by joe schmuck because i do not think the risk outweighs the benefits. Now with software the risk are a not as great as they are with items mentioned above so you'll find more people taking risks and trying software created by the hobbist. But at teh same time when it comes to critical data such as medical records i would not want to trust that to an unproven software+hardware package. And having a developer(s) that had the ye ol' industry "stamp of approval" would help to determine which software+hardware package to choose. But it is still my choice what to use, and therefore it is my responsibility to choose the best package for the job. For example i choose to use apache over IIS becasue in my opinion and from what i have experienced it does a better job. So it comes down to the consumer and wether or not they are willing to take a risk and use something created by someone that dose not have a "seal of aproval."
Hmmmm... let's see here... inorder to be guilty of price fixing MS would have to colaborate with competitiors, and if they have competitiors then they cannot be a monoploy! ACK-HA!
MS takes a, to them, small hit of paying $40.00 to MS users in Iowa (and honestly howmany can there be in the land o' corn?) inorder to overturn the monoploy ruling they got spanked with. clever, clever indeed...
good point, but iicr with computers that come with MS windows preinstalled, you can, or used to, uninstall windows and return the unopened disk to MS, not to the sotre where you purchased the computer, for a refund. i believe there were a few User Friendly strips about this.
what about contracts with minors? in most states, if not all, a minor my default on any contract he/she so chooses. which is why most places will not sell big ticket items such as houses, cars, loans, etc to minors. So how does a EULA apply to a minor that leagle purcahsed a software product and clicked agree and then decied to default on said contract?
what if i don't agree and want my money back? do you think i could go up to best buy and say "hey man bought this game becasue it looked cool, but I don't agree to the EULA so can i have money back?" i'd be laughed out of the store. i say if a software co. want us to abid by their EULAS then they must print their EULAs in easy to read (for those that have poor eyesight) printing on the outside of the box, and we must agree to the EULA before we purchase software. OR they need to force stores that do not accept open software returns to start taking returns. Either way the software co. loses, either giveup precious advertising space on their software package, or try and do battle with the stores that pimp their software out.
you have obviously not tried to use driect TV in wisconsin. damn snowstorms woudl interupt my tv viewing all the damn time, then in spring the lightning stomrs would do the same. Check you facts before you speak.
You Fail! sit down!
"Another security concern is that the primary distribution channel for GPL open source is the Internet. As opposed to proprietary vendors, open source is freely downloaded. However, software in the public domain could contain a critical problem, a backdoor or worse, a dangerous virus."
Where is the argument here? All i see is 2 statments of fact, followed by an opinionated speculation. Some of the worse viril i have encountered have come on Propietary software. Public domain software can be scrutinized by everyone, where your propietary software would require a court order and and a lot of arm forcing to have a look at. Also there are several cases of propietary software, even some form your beloved Microsoft that have backdoors built into them. Your pathedic attempt at an argument here has failed miserably and you have now lost credibilility. Failure #1!
Reverse engineering "harbors very close to IP infringement because and has staggering economic implications." [sic]
Your cunning use of the logical falicy "pushing the definition" will not work here (read: your jedi mind tricks do not work on us). If you do not know what Reverse Engineering is, then please do not use it in you arguments. It will only serve to make look even more foolish and make you lose even more credibility. Failure #2!
"On a lighter note, while many open source enthusiasts are proponents for copyleft, they insist on trademark protection for their ideas."
Again, where is the argument here? The writter seems to implicate that to insist on tradmarks to protect the credit you deserve for you ideas is counter productive to being proponets to copyleft, but completely fails to achive this implication. Failure #3!
"If a software application representing 5000 hours uses GPL code that reflects only 100 hours, is the GPL fair in its argument that the entire product is GPL? This point is of considerable concern to software companies that value their secrets, design and architecture strategies. Proponents of the GPL argue that each party in the exchange is benefiting equally, but without a means to properly make this evaluation, this position at best is over-assuming."
I smell a red hering. let's seee.. the writter starts off with a hypothedical...and then gives the side of the GPL supporters...and then he jumps to tearing down the GPL supports argument with and assumption of his own! Ack-ha! here is the red-hering. Failure #4!
"The federal government's information systems requirements intersect countless sensitive operations. The limitless potential for holes and back doors in an open source product would require unyielding scrutiny by staff that decided to use it. For example, if the Federal Aviation Agency were to develop an application (derived from open source) which controlled 747 flight patterns, a number of issues easily become national security questions such as: Would it be prudent for the FAA to use software that thousands of unknown programmers have intimate knowledge of for something this critical? Could the FAA take the chance that these unknown programmers have not shared the source code accidentally with the wrong parties? Would the FAA's decision to use software in the public domain invite computer 'hackers' more readily than proprietary products?"
So basically you're affraid that goverment agencies, such as the FAA, are so imcompetent that they cannot design a flight control system that is safe. and thererfore the flight control system needs to be designed by a propietary team which we all know never puts out software with security holes. 6 of one, half dozen of the other here. I'd rather be on a flight that should somethign go wrong, it would be easier to contact any number of 1000's of designers to fix. Failure #5!
Your aguments are weak, and pathedic. You have no credibility. Anything you say fomr here on out will fall on deaf ears. Your haste to condem that which you obviously do not know has casue you to become a failure. sit down untill you have somethign intelligent to say.
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no shit people don't want to know about open or closed source, dependencies, distros, gnome/kde/E/whatever. They want to turna computer on and have do what they want it to: Read email, surf for porn (which means it must handle all sorts of graphics, movies and sounds from the web) play their music collection (in any format just as long as the format is popular enenough that it can be got from the internet without too much hassle) make x-mas cards for grandma, store recipies, do some word processing, maybe a spreadsheet with a groovy chart that can be tacked to and from work. That's it, joe and jane users do not care about multi-threading, apache servers, c, c++, glib, make, make install, make clean, databases, servers, xservers, sound servers, yo momma servers. To them servers are giant machines in the IT depatment of their job, and if you tell them they need to runa server the get scared and think that they'll need a giant piece of equipment.
For linux to be accepted by the masses (aka herd animals) it needs to be as easy as windows to install: linux needs to scan the ALL (includeing Xfree86! seriously how hard can that be? i mean if windows can do it, why the hell can't X?) hardware and setup drives for itself, and the show examples of differetn desktops and ask which one the user finds the prettiest (but still allows for the easy switching later on) and boom that's it all done, it should take no more than 2 clicks to install. and wehn the computer is turned on it should go automatically straight to the desktop of choice, no loging in, no authorization, just the desktop, which needs to be designed with so that a 2 year old can use it. all that fancy stuff is for the hobbiest, and hopefull will one day become something the herd will use but not until after several years of scrutiny from the ubergeek crowd. So make a linux that is simple so a child of 2 could understand it and you will then see mass acceptance of linux
i worked for vodafone in their SMS dept., before the stupid selfish cunts fired me, but i digress. what we found was as long as the servers were running properly, and if the code was up on its logic, and the receiving phone was turned on, then everything worked. 99% of all sms failures were due to issues with the receiving hand set: not on, low battery, out of area, etc. Of course the big wigs didn't want to hear that cuz they all a bunch of cocksmokers, who could tell the difference between their own ass and a hole in the ground, even if spotted them 2 butt checks, but i'm not bitter
unless you're stuck in some backass town where all the lights are on timers. sometimes i hate wisconsin
so, like, when the pole thingys flip, will the water go down the other way when i flush? ;)
man no one here has any faith in hollywood. adn for good reason too! anyone see that shameful butching of "Fist of the North Star" live action deal? i damn near took a crap on my tv to show my distaste for that. And so with many things hollywood will make some cheesy cross between power rangers and godzilla which will only make anime that much more unatractive to the non anime watching crowd. Thanks hollywood for improperly using your galatic powers of influence adn mind control yet again. You do know that there is a special place in hell you yous guys for all of thecrap that you been putting out don't you? eh what does it matter just so long as you can make billions that you can't take with you when the reaper man comes for you riding tall on his mighty pale stead, Binky, you're happy right?
um, if sol was a binary system then wouldn't sol's twin be the cloest star, not that alpha centuri thing. Also wouldn,t we get sun sets like those on tatoonie ?
i have a sony c1mv and i use a serial to usb converter for my gps antenna and it works great. I haven tried other serial devices, but i can't imagen there being any big problems.
Also i have marginal success loading Suse linux on it, although all the extra stuff like the memstick reader, cpu throteling, lcd dimmer, camera, etc don't work too well, but i'm still hacking at it.
But if you do get one, or have one i highly suggest searching eBay for the quad battery, i can get about 8 hours at high performance, and clsoe to 12 hours use powersaveing features. That with a wireless nic makes a very sweet mobile system.
if you're talking about the book from SAMS "PHP and MySQL Web Development" i agree with you. It's a great book for beginners to PHP and MySQL. I was completely new to both and now i use PHP adn MySQL every chance i get. Although i now use www.mysql.com and www.php.net for reference, and the book sits quitely on my shelf doing a good job of collectiong dust.
I haven't used my floppy drive for 2 years, until i got a virus (damn you bastard kazaa user) and then i needed them for rescue disks. But ther than that with bootable cd roms and other devices the Floppy is dead for me. I've just startign using sony (or wanna be sony cuz they is cheaper) memsticks to tansfer files between computers during the rare times my network is down, or whenmy roomate keys up the 2.4Ghz phoen and knocks out my wi-fi. too bad you can't boot off a memstick....
zen and the art of fragging
i hate articles like these, you know, the articles that give a sensational headline and then the body has 0!, no!, none!, not a bit of proper supporting evidence.
There are number of reasons why Linux boxes could be attacked more this year than windows boxes, each of which completely changes the tone of the article, but unfortunately do not make for good journalism. And that's what it's all about these days, fuck the story, just tell it in an interesting way. The public doesn't care what it's eating, just as long as it comes wrapped in a BigMac warpper. I don't know about you, but i'm sick of being treated like this. Please Slashdot, no more articles like this.
oh and the real reason why more linux boxes will be attacked this year is becasue there are more Linux boxes this year than previously and Linux box owners report attacks more offen than the window user that probably doesn't even know he is a victim of attacks.
palying computer games does not casue a lack of activity, but casues specialized activity. As you repeat a function over and over again (such as pick up rocket launch, fire at bad guy, whatch bad guys limbs fly, laugh, and repeat) the neurons in your brain start forming hard whire connection. As this activity continues your brain will no longer send out the message wildly in hopes the the right recepter picks it up but sends hte message to perfomr the above activity striaght to the proper recepter (much like when omlimpic competitors say they just do action without thinking about it). So when studies like this show a lack of brain activity, what they are show is a lack of useless brain activity when to brain is functioning quite optimally. Aa for nonreversal effects? BULLSHIT! after a time of not using the new neural pathways the hard links will wither adn eventually break off. As for people being iritable, of course they are, when your brians get wired for a certian function and then you try and stop that function of course you are going to be iritable. Are you not iritable ater you get home form work? Why do you think people need some down (or "cave" as it's said in a popular book) time when they get home. The need time to rewire their brains from work mode to home mode. unfortunately the time needed for proper rewireing is a couple of days, which is why it's a good thing people have vactaions or their would be more office shootings.
I was read an artical in the Wall Street journal that said electric razors casue lukemia. They printed this because out of 100 lukemia patients surveyed, all of them use electric razors. Don't believe what you read, and although i'm not one to shatter your hard held beliefs, but just becasue it's on the internet, does not make it true.
but this is just my opinion, i could be wrong.
it's good to knwo that more than just myself have been thinking that it's time for the users to raise their level of participation rather than manufactures lowering the level of theri product. Praise be! now maybe the tech world can get a move on and creat all those moving sidwalks, flying cars, tansports and phasers that we have been promised.
the point is that Sears, Staples, and Target don't broadcast credit card information, nor the digital signature they get form those damn big brother pads over the air un-encrypted for any schmuk to snag.
i click the links and get a page full of broken links :(
does one have to be lazy to want to have all the features of their portable devices combined into one? or maybe people are just looking for efficency....
not really needed. I don't have to have a credited engineer come build a windmill, car, boat, etc for me. Ultimately as humans we are responsible for ourselves. I will mostlikely not buy a car that was manufactured by joe schmuck because i do not think the risk outweighs the benefits. Now with software the risk are a not as great as they are with items mentioned above so you'll find more people taking risks and trying software created by the hobbist. But at teh same time when it comes to critical data such as medical records i would not want to trust that to an unproven software+hardware package. And having a developer(s) that had the ye ol' industry "stamp of approval" would help to determine which software+hardware package to choose. But it is still my choice what to use, and therefore it is my responsibility to choose the best package for the job. For example i choose to use apache over IIS becasue in my opinion and from what i have experienced it does a better job. So it comes down to the consumer and wether or not they are willing to take a risk and use something created by someone that dose not have a "seal of aproval."
$52.00!!??! damn! where the hell did you get the price??
Hmmmm... let's see here... inorder to be guilty of price fixing MS would have to colaborate with competitiors, and if they have competitiors then they cannot be a monoploy! ACK-HA!
MS takes a, to them, small hit of paying $40.00 to MS users in Iowa (and honestly howmany can there be in the land o' corn?) inorder to overturn the monoploy ruling they got spanked with. clever, clever indeed...
damn that was my idea ;)
good point, but iicr with computers that come with MS windows preinstalled, you can, or used to, uninstall windows and return the unopened disk to MS, not to the sotre where you purchased the computer, for a refund. i believe there were a few User Friendly strips about this.
what about contracts with minors? in most states, if not all, a minor my default on any contract he/she so chooses. which is why most places will not sell big ticket items such as houses, cars, loans, etc to minors. So how does a EULA apply to a minor that leagle purcahsed a software product and clicked agree and then decied to default on said contract?
what if i don't agree and want my money back? do you think i could go up to best buy and say "hey man bought this game becasue it looked cool, but I don't agree to the EULA so can i have money back?" i'd be laughed out of the store. i say if a software co. want us to abid by their EULAS then they must print their EULAs in easy to read (for those that have poor eyesight) printing on the outside of the box, and we must agree to the EULA before we purchase software. OR they need to force stores that do not accept open software returns to start taking returns. Either way the software co. loses, either giveup precious advertising space on their software package, or try and do battle with the stores that pimp their software out.
you have obviously not tried to use driect TV in wisconsin. damn snowstorms woudl interupt my tv viewing all the damn time, then in spring the lightning stomrs would do the same. Check you facts before you speak.
You Fail! sit down!
lets take a look at these one by one shal we:
"Another security concern is that the primary distribution channel for GPL open source is the Internet. As opposed to proprietary vendors, open source is freely downloaded. However, software in the public domain could contain a critical problem, a backdoor or worse, a dangerous virus."
Where is the argument here? All i see is 2 statments of fact, followed by an opinionated speculation. Some of the worse viril i have encountered have come on Propietary software. Public domain software can be scrutinized by everyone, where your propietary software would require a court order and and a lot of arm forcing to have a look at. Also there are several cases of propietary software, even some form your beloved Microsoft that have backdoors built into them.
Your pathedic attempt at an argument here has failed miserably and you have now lost credibilility. Failure #1!
Reverse engineering "harbors very close to IP infringement because and has staggering economic implications." [sic] Your cunning use of the logical falicy "pushing the definition" will not work here (read: your jedi mind tricks do not work on us). If you do not know what Reverse Engineering is, then please do not use it in you arguments. It will only serve to make look even more foolish and make you lose even more credibility. Failure #2!
"On a lighter note, while many open source enthusiasts are proponents for copyleft, they insist on trademark protection for their ideas."
Again, where is the argument here? The writter seems to implicate that to insist on tradmarks to protect the credit you deserve for you ideas is counter productive to being proponets to copyleft, but completely fails to achive this implication. Failure #3!
"If a software application representing 5000 hours uses GPL code that reflects only 100 hours, is the GPL fair in its argument that the entire product is GPL? This point is of considerable concern to software companies that value their secrets, design and architecture strategies. Proponents of the GPL argue that each party in the exchange is benefiting equally, but without a means to properly make this evaluation, this position at best is over-assuming."
I smell a red hering. let's seee.. the writter starts off with a hypothedical...and then gives the side of the GPL supporters...and then he jumps to tearing down the GPL supports argument with and assumption of his own! Ack-ha! here is the red-hering. Failure #4!
"The federal government's information systems requirements intersect countless sensitive operations. The limitless potential for holes and back doors in an open source product would require unyielding scrutiny by staff that decided to use it. For example, if the Federal Aviation Agency were to develop an application (derived from open source) which controlled 747 flight patterns, a number of issues easily become national security questions such as: Would it be prudent for the FAA to use software that thousands of unknown programmers have intimate knowledge of for something this critical? Could the FAA take the chance that these unknown programmers have not shared the source code accidentally with the wrong parties? Would the FAA's decision to use software in the public domain invite computer 'hackers' more readily than proprietary products?"
So basically you're affraid that goverment agencies, such as the FAA, are so imcompetent that they cannot design a flight control system that is safe. and thererfore the flight control system needs to be designed by a propietary team which we all know never puts out software with security holes. 6 of one, half dozen of the other here. I'd rather be on a flight that should somethign go wrong, it would be easier to contact any number of 1000's of designers to fix. Failure #5!
Your aguments are weak, and pathedic. You have no credibility. Anything you say fomr here on out will fall on deaf ears. Your haste to condem that which you obviously do not know has casue you to become a failure. sit down untill you have somethign intelligent to say.