One of the best comparisons I have heard is the writings left out of the canon were "fan fiction". Sure, they talked about the same story, but they just did not quite fit, and did not ring true with the official script.
Unfortunately, I'm not optimistic that THE solution will ever be seriously considered: QUIT USING WINDOW$ ON CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE CONTROL SYSTEMS.
I second that! I cringe every time a vendor comes in with yet another new Windows-based control system. Ye Flipping Gods! Windows should not be anywhere near a control environment.
Ah, heck with it. I am not going to get into a p***ing match with someone I do not know and does not know me, where neither of us has a clue as to the others' qualifications to pontificate on anything.
I too have read the article you cite, and it is long on "OMG, the apocalypse is coming" and devoid of any factual content. Yeah, right, this is so secret that the government cannot even tell the affected industries what to fix. BS.
I do apologize for my knee-jerk snotty response. I get so tired of people reading all the scare stories (especially our legigators) and responding with over-the-top controls of industries they don't even understand.
Ok, so you cite two attacks from four years before the NERC CIP standards were adopted, one about foreign electric plants (not part of the US system), two about a problem at an Australian water plant, an opinion piece, a few reports emphasizing the need for cybersecurity, and a piece about the upcoming legislation.
I repeat, where is the evidence of hundreds of successful attacks on US electrical utility systems? I am not trying to minimize the problem, but measures are being taken to deter this threat. Implying that the industry and government are not addressing the threat is alarmist and misleading.
Excuse me, but I work for an electrical utility, and you have no idea what you are talking about.
Where are the citations for the "hundreds of successful attacks"?
Are you at all familiar with the NERC Critical Infrastructure Protection Standards adopted by FERC as federal law for electrical utilities? Utilities are hardly allowed to "do their own thing" in this regard.
A good first step for scientists would be to not consider all Christians as fundamentalist wackos. The fundies are very vocal, but they do NOT represent the majority opinion, or the time-honored opinion. Ignore them and communicate with the reasonable people (Yes, there are reasonable religious people).
Damn, SCO is like a villain in a horror movie where you can never kill them. Maybe a wooden stake through the heart or silver bullet will do the trick?
Personally, I prefer the Mercedes Lackey method -- load up a pistol with alternating rounds of silver, cold iron and blessed lead, and empty the whole thing into the target. One of them is bound to be effective.
Does it bother anyone that most of the present occupants of Egypt are not even related to the people who built the pyramids? About the only group left with a legitimate claim to the Egyptian antiquities would be the Coptic Christians.
I also have been using a ReadyNAS NV at home for over a year with beautiful results. I know some people have had various problems with the NV, but for me it has worked perfectly. I have Gigabit network connections from the NV to two of my largest computers, and the backup speeds are great. I installed one of the Infrant-recommended UPS to provide backup power, and I can run with some of the caching turned off to improve performance. About a week ago, I had a power failure and the NAS correctly detected the end-of-battery condition on the UPS and shutdown gracefully without any problems. I also use the NV as a printer spooler for my color printer with excellent results.
The NV is not exactly a cheap solution, but it does "just work".
I am sorry, I though this particular thread of the discussion was theological in nature. Yes, I was working with the definition of "universe" as "everything created or existing" in a Biblical sense. By that definition, as created beings, angels would have to be part of the created system. I was not intending to extend the answer to a non-theological, materialistic viewpoint in which the discussion of angels has no real validity.
Sort of off topic I know, but how does Michael Crichton manage to get away with witting the same story again and again? i.e. We develop some cool piece of technology, then it all goes horribly wrong because we don't really know what we're doing.
The same could be said (and has been) for science fiction in general. There are only so many unique plot devices in science fiction, and all of them were used by either Jules Verne or H.G. Wells a hundred years ago.
The express purpose of guns, with the exception of hunting rifles, is to shoot people. (Hint: you don't use handguns or automatic weapons to hunt deer.)
I do, however, carry a handgun when hunting to put down a deer at close range, or kill a rattlesnake. A rifle is just too damn big in some situations.
Yes, and with support like Richard Dawkins, it is no wonder so many people "believe in" creationism or ID over evolution. Based on some of his comments from The Root of All Evil, he comes across as a raving atheist fundamentalist. His comments and arguments for years have been incredibly unscientific attacks in defense of his religion. He seems to spend far more energy on ad hominem attacks then on reasoned response.
I will try to take a stab at the "why it matters" question, since no one else appears to have addressed this from a strictly Biblical viewpoint. Christians believe that the first man Adam sinned and thereby condemned the whole of humanity to separation from God. Jesus Christ was the perfect atonement for that sin, and thereby saves those who believe from that eternal separation from God. If there was no man Adam, there is no need for a savior. Evolutionary theory challenges the concept of a special creation of Adam, and so challenges the need for a savior.
I suppose if you consider a species backtracking along their previous evolutionary path, you could consider it devolution without applying a value judgement.
Execution speed is hardly the only consideration, and often is way down the list of priorities. A one-shot, ad-hoc request for data can be quickly fulfilled with a script that might otherwise take hours of programming/debugging. Even fairly complex tasks that are not speed dependent might be more easily maintained in a scripted language. The requirements of the task should drive the language decision, not some arbitrary concept of what "real software" is.
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Do you not know the proper punishment for heresy is burning at the stake?? Come on, get with the (ancient) times.
One of the best comparisons I have heard is the writings left out of the canon were "fan fiction". Sure, they talked about the same story, but they just did not quite fit, and did not ring true with the official script.
I second that! I cringe every time a vendor comes in with yet another new Windows-based control system. Ye Flipping Gods! Windows should not be anywhere near a control environment.
Ah, heck with it. I am not going to get into a p***ing match with someone I do not know and does not know me, where neither of us has a clue as to the others' qualifications to pontificate on anything.
I too have read the article you cite, and it is long on "OMG, the apocalypse is coming" and devoid of any factual content. Yeah, right, this is so secret that the government cannot even tell the affected industries what to fix. BS.
I do apologize for my knee-jerk snotty response. I get so tired of people reading all the scare stories (especially our legigators) and responding with over-the-top controls of industries they don't even understand.
Ok, so you cite two attacks from four years before the NERC CIP standards were adopted, one about foreign electric plants (not part of the US system), two about a problem at an Australian water plant, an opinion piece, a few reports emphasizing the need for cybersecurity, and a piece about the upcoming legislation.
I repeat, where is the evidence of hundreds of successful attacks on US electrical utility systems? I am not trying to minimize the problem, but measures are being taken to deter this threat. Implying that the industry and government are not addressing the threat is alarmist and misleading.
Excuse me, but I work for an electrical utility, and you have no idea what you are talking about.
Where are the citations for the "hundreds of successful attacks"?
Are you at all familiar with the NERC Critical Infrastructure Protection Standards adopted by FERC as federal law for electrical utilities? Utilities are hardly allowed to "do their own thing" in this regard.
whatever the opposite of an activist is, someone who wants to do nothing is called
I believe the term you are looking for is passivist.
Hey, I live in rural Montana, you insensitive clod!
A good first step for scientists would be to not consider all Christians as fundamentalist wackos. The fundies are very vocal, but they do NOT represent the majority opinion, or the time-honored opinion. Ignore them and communicate with the reasonable people (Yes, there are reasonable religious people).
Damn, SCO is like a villain in a horror movie where you can never kill them. Maybe a wooden stake through the heart or silver bullet will do the trick?
Personally, I prefer the Mercedes Lackey method -- load up a pistol with alternating rounds of silver, cold iron and blessed lead, and empty the whole thing into the target. One of them is bound to be effective.
Does it bother anyone that most of the present occupants of Egypt are not even related to the people who built the pyramids? About the only group left with a legitimate claim to the Egyptian antiquities would be the Coptic Christians.
I also have been using a ReadyNAS NV at home for over a year with beautiful results. I know some people have had various problems with the NV, but for me it has worked perfectly. I have Gigabit network connections from the NV to two of my largest computers, and the backup speeds are great. I installed one of the Infrant-recommended UPS to provide backup power, and I can run with some of the caching turned off to improve performance. About a week ago, I had a power failure and the NAS correctly detected the end-of-battery condition on the UPS and shutdown gracefully without any problems. I also use the NV as a printer spooler for my color printer with excellent results.
The NV is not exactly a cheap solution, but it does "just work".
I am sorry, I though this particular thread of the discussion was theological in nature. Yes, I was working with the definition of "universe" as "everything created or existing" in a Biblical sense. By that definition, as created beings, angels would have to be part of the created system. I was not intending to extend the answer to a non-theological, materialistic viewpoint in which the discussion of angels has no real validity.
No, angels are part of the created order of this universe.
And to answer the GP, it is usually assumed they were created on day 1.
It supposed to be "The Last Mimzy" (from TFA), based on "All Mimsy were the Borogoves".
Sort of off topic I know, but how does Michael Crichton manage to get away with witting the same story again and again? i.e. We develop some cool piece of technology, then it all goes horribly wrong because we don't really know what we're doing.
The same could be said (and has been) for science fiction in general. There are only so many unique plot devices in science fiction, and all of them were used by either Jules Verne or H.G. Wells a hundred years ago.
Actually, the full quote is "Beneath the rule of men entirely great,
the pen is mightier than the sword." - Bulwer-Lytton, "Richelieu".
No, they tear up too much of the meat. Also, the Federal Firearms Permit is too expensive to make it worthwhile.
The express purpose of guns, with the exception of hunting rifles, is to shoot people. (Hint: you don't use handguns or automatic weapons to hunt deer.)
I do, however, carry a handgun when hunting to put down a deer at close range, or kill a rattlesnake. A rifle is just too damn big in some situations.
Yes, and with support like Richard Dawkins, it is no wonder so many people "believe in" creationism or ID over evolution. Based on some of his comments from The Root of All Evil, he comes across as a raving atheist fundamentalist. His comments and arguments for years have been incredibly unscientific attacks in defense of his religion. He seems to spend far more energy on ad hominem attacks then on reasoned response.
Here are some "important works" I think elucidate central ID belief:
Signs of Intelligence: Understanding Intelligent Design by William A. Dembski (Editor), James M. Kushiner (Editor).
The Design Revolution: Answering the Toughest Questions About Intelligent Design by William A. Dembski.
I will try to take a stab at the "why it matters" question, since no one else appears to have addressed this from a strictly Biblical viewpoint. Christians believe that the first man Adam sinned and thereby condemned the whole of humanity to separation from God. Jesus Christ was the perfect atonement for that sin, and thereby saves those who believe from that eternal separation from God. If there was no man Adam, there is no need for a savior. Evolutionary theory challenges the concept of a special creation of Adam, and so challenges the need for a savior.
I suppose if you consider a species backtracking along their previous evolutionary path, you could consider it devolution without applying a value judgement.
No, metric tons.
Execution speed is hardly the only consideration, and often is way down the list of priorities. A one-shot, ad-hoc request for data can be quickly fulfilled with a script that might otherwise take hours of programming/debugging. Even fairly complex tasks that are not speed dependent might be more easily maintained in a scripted language. The requirements of the task should drive the language decision, not some arbitrary concept of what "real software" is.