It's like saying that a new Windows Laptop was the best ever because it didn't explode when powered up, and didn't cause severe burns to the user's lap. Yeah, great that that's true, but it's not something to go around advertising - that would just show that you expected otherwise.
Nope it's like a Windows Laptop that's not p0wn3d 10min after going online for the first time and that would be rather noteworthy =)
Unless you haven't noticed adding search engine capabilities to your desktop is a general trend.
There are a number of utilities allowing you to index your harddisk today but it's going to be integrated at a lower level in the future. Longhorn will have it, Gnome is working on it, of course there's going to be a KDE project too.
Now Apple has something like that, that's cool, but I don't have the money to buy a Macintosh and need Windows for games so of course I'm happy that KDE will get it too. They mentioned WinFS in the article but they forgot Apple so go to Cnet and bitch there and while you're at it you could also ask them why they quoted RedHat at the end of the article. Of all Linux distributions Redhat has been the most hostile concerning KDE I don't see what their quarterly report has to do with KDE
Current death toll from Amnesty International's actions in Nepal: 9000
Current death toll from minus_273's unsupported claims: 10100010 - I don't like Amnesty International but I don't like slander. You have a credible source? link it in your sig
Ghost in the Shell. I don't want to appear like the lunatic fan who has to bring anime into every discussion but Ghost in the Shell is an outstanding work (both comic and movie).
It has not only many interesting solutions to current problems it's also one of the few sci-fi stories that don't treat cybernetics as a threat to mankind but shows an elaborate future where cybernetics are part of everyday life.
Which menu? The pulldown menu to choose the product? It works perfectly fine in Konqueror 3.3 and Mozilla 1.7.2 both from debian unstable.
Then I chose one product randomly (this one) clicked on download software got a working popup (both browsers block unrequested pop-ups but sometimes mess up when deciding what's unrequested) chose language and OS -again from *working* pulldown menus- clicked next and had working download links. I can offer some screens if you don't believe me
You should really look into getting a new Mozilla build, yours seems to be seriously broken
I assume you mean cherrycorp.com but you could have been more specific as no product website was mentioned in the news posting.
Well, it renders just fine in Mozilla and Konqueror, no problems. What are you using? Lynx?... Actually it even works with Lynx with some quirks though so I really don't see your problem
/. ate my response therefore now the short version:
i refuse to see 3 different toolkits, because it looks absolutely tacky.
I use qt-gtk for the same reason but ppl new to PCs are gonna wonder why some applications have the cancel button on the wrong side. Even more if the apps all look the same. Not newbie-friendly.
compare spacial nautilus and konq some time. which is simpler to use?
Konqueror. Spatial's dead. Even Apple saw that.
compare epiphany and konq. same question?
Epiphany is the best example for a great-discoverability bad-usability application.
If you ask ppl about a gnome web browser most will say Firefox.
how about gnome configuration panels and kde config panels?
KDE despite the clutter and you know why? If my friend asks me how to change something I can give him a point-and-click answer and "What's this?" explains every option in detail. Even better, as KDE still has an apply button he can go back to the previous state by simply leaving the module and coming back later. Instant apply scares new users. Editing your Gnome-registry is scary in comparison.
not to mention that gnome looks significantly better with defaults.
pwuahahaha. Plastik is at least equal to the gnome standard and Plastik *is* the KDE standard, SuSE uses it, Mandrake uses it, every other KDE distribution uses it.
especially in fedora.
Of course, RedHat KDE is shit. Try the real thing sometime.
Why do you think most people use a erm borrowed copy of photoshop instead of the program coming with their scanners/cameras?
Photoshop is like KDE feature rich, powerful and a bit cluttered, the others are like GNOME simpler and more "elegant"
To the average user one missed feature is worse than 10 unused ones or as the author of xchat (IIRC, was a long time ago) said about why he didn't dumb down the client while switching to gtk2.0: In all my years as programmer I haven't got one single mail demanding less features
You're wrong, bluecurve does the only thing that is *worse* than completely different DEs it makes them *look* the same but under the hood they're still different they have different little quirks the options are in different places and they interact inconsistently with other applications for no apparent reason (they look the same after all)
Having your apps look the same is for advanced users only.
I've been using debian for nearly two years now but the last time I compared different distributions mandrake's installer was lightyears ahead of yast and the rest was shit.
And gnome is unusable for beginners because you have to use external tools/CLI for too many things. And btw. where did you get that strange idea that gnome usability is superior. Gnome discoverability may be quite good but it loses it's importance within a week.
Yes, I am a troll but so is the parent we both offer nothing to support our claims and I am astonished how it could get modded up twice
Well not exactely, I was into Star Trek tech a couple of years ago and the blue/red lightshow doesn't contain plasma only the matter and antimatter stream respectively.
It becomes plasma in the round thingy in the middle with help of the mighty dilithium crystals
There's no fusion, no plasma and they're cylinders and not tori therefore, nope they weren't, at least not onto a levitated dipole experiment =)
With Konqueror you can select a URL and middle-click to load it
I know that there is a firefox extension that does the same thing and I assume mozilla has one too. With opera "go to url" was one of the options in the context menu IIRC but I'm not sure
No they can't. With space ships you can never get closer to the origin of the radiation (with radiation power! see below) while you can do that with ocean-going ships
The way to navigate in an arbitrary direction within a solar system is to change your orbital speed. You're on earth and want to go to Jupiter? Spread your sails and go there. You're on Earth and want to improve your tan on Mercury? Use the sail to reduce your tangential speed (tangential to the sun) and your orbit will drop. Add some nifty fly-by maneuvers and you can go wherever you want.
In interstellar space you'll always be able to plot a course that ensures that the acceleration points in the right direction because there are many radiation sources available
No laser on Earth would give the sail any decent help compared to our sun (and moon for that matter)
That's not necessarily right. Of course no existing laser has the required power and none is focussed enough. But let's assume we could build a laser which spreads its light only a few km per light-year then suddenly even a rather weak laser would be more powerful than the sun because the light of the sun will be distributed over approximately 10^26 km^2 by then
Sorry but there almost has to be something wrong with your installation. I have never seen a crash of a 3.x kmail. Almost every other program I use crashed in that time (one kernel panic, XFree crashes galore, even a tetex segfault once) only kmail always worked as it should.
Have you tried to remove your old configuration files before using a current version, if they're really old they sometimes do weird things
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to
stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but
is morally treasonable to the American people."
How can I get case insensitive order in the gnome file dialog/nautilus etc.
This has to be one of the most stupid default settings btw. If you're doing a desktop for new users and are ready to piss off lots of people to achieve that goal why oh why would you use something so unintuitive
If a naked virgin (female of course =) with a pot of gold walks through central park at night then she may not be guilty of a crime when she gets mugged and raped but she's not totally innocent either.
The internet is not your pretty little gated community and there definitely is something like criminal carelessness especially when you're not joe avarage user but a sysadmin.
You click on the nice help button and it tells you:
Time format codes:
HH - The hour according to a 24-hour clock, using two digits (00 to 23).
hH - The hour according to a 24-hour clock, using one or two digits (0 to 23).
PH (uppercase eye) - The hour according to a 12-hour clock, using two digits (01 to 12).
pH (lowercase ell) - The hour according to a 12-hour clock, using one or two digits (1 to 12).
MM - The current minute using two digits (00 to 59).
SS - The current second using two digits (00 to 59).
AMPM - Either "am" or "pm" depending on the hour. Useful with PH or pH
No that system is not brilliant it's anything but. On the other hand your current settings are determined by the country setting so most users won't need to change that.
Counterquestion, does GNOME have language settings nowadays? The last time I tried GNOME I couldn't find it
Sorry, but mp3, ogg, and wma are *all* lossy formats.
erm the grandparent listed the filetypes the Karma supports and as it supports a lossless codec he concluded that you don't have to use a lossy format. I don't see your problem.
Apple has developed their own proprietary lossless format that is usable on the iPod, and reduces the file size to about half that of an AIFF or WAV file.
FLAC gets about the same compression rate. In fact all lossless codecs are quite close to each other in terms of filesize.
People often talk up KDE reflexively yet fail to address the rot that has existed in many key apps like KOffice, which has failed to remain competitive with the alternatives. Konqueror has clearly lost the mindshare war with Mozilla but hopefully it can get some benefit from the huge swell of plugins emerging if the KDE folks are going to use the new common plugin spec (can anyone confirm?). And yes I know KHTML is in Safari, and no I don't really think it really has that much meaning for KDE users.
WTF are you talking about? KDE's philosophy was framework first then the applications. All your examples aren't about applications falling behind, but catching up and often surpassing the rest.
Konqueror was unusable as main browser in the 2.x days while today it's almost as good as firefox (most rendering errors I encounter are problems with incorrectly scaled pages because I use a minimum font size - I hope they change that to a zoom function like in Opera) in some regards even better (I like the look of most pages better, the integration with the desktop is superior (oh really? =) and kio slaves rock)
Koffice is improving unbelievably fast despite a very small developer team, scribus the only really usable DTP application for Linux
A few years ago I used KDE (better file manager) but almost all my apps were gtk, now xchat is the sole survivor because it's still the best irc client.
I will never purchase and T_Mobile product after hearing this as these were T-Mobile supporters.
Huh? Grow up. Do you really think T-Mobile endorsed, encouraged or even enticed (sorry that alliteration was too good to pass up =) them into doing that? We're talking about millions of people who were at the Tour it's to be expected that you find some idiots and assholes there (someone stood in the middle of the road during the last time trial).
If bin Laden used Vodafone wouldn't you use them anymore either? Or if some DoCoMo employee killed his wife? Is there any product you're still buying?
I'm German and I deeply respect Lance Armstrong and hope he'll do the Tour again next year (there're some rumours he'll choose the Giro instead) because regardless who wins next year if Armstrong didn't take part the victory would be worthless.
I really hope he stumbles sometime (doesn't mean he can't win in the end) because just as with Schuhmacher and Formula 1 (they're *so* similar =) it's gotten quite boring. A victory on the last day after a close Tour is simply much more exiting than someone winning every day
There are few sports where the athletes impress me as much as in cycling. Take the time trial yesterday 50km/h average for 55km while climbing 700 meters during that stage.
I doubt I'd be able to reach 50km/h unless rolling down a hill
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Nope it's like a Windows Laptop that's not p0wn3d 10min after going online for the first time and that would be rather noteworthy =)
There are a number of utilities allowing you to index your harddisk today but it's going to be integrated at a lower level in the future. Longhorn will have it, Gnome is working on it, of course there's going to be a KDE project too.
Now Apple has something like that, that's cool, but I don't have the money to buy a Macintosh and need Windows for games so of course I'm happy that KDE will get it too. They mentioned WinFS in the article but they forgot Apple so go to Cnet and bitch there and while you're at it you could also ask them why they quoted RedHat at the end of the article. Of all Linux distributions Redhat has been the most hostile concerning KDE I don't see what their quarterly report has to do with KDE
Current death toll from Amnesty International's actions in Nepal: 9000
Current death toll from minus_273's unsupported claims: 10100010 - I don't like Amnesty International but I don't like slander. You have a credible source? link it in your sig
It has not only many interesting solutions to current problems it's also one of the few sci-fi stories that don't treat cybernetics as a threat to mankind but shows an elaborate future where cybernetics are part of everyday life.
Then I chose one product randomly (this one) clicked on download software got a working popup (both browsers block unrequested pop-ups but sometimes mess up when deciding what's unrequested) chose language and OS -again from *working* pulldown menus- clicked next and had working download links. I can offer some screens if you don't believe me
You should really look into getting a new Mozilla build, yours seems to be seriously broken
Well, it renders just fine in Mozilla and Konqueror, no problems. What are you using? Lynx?... Actually it even works with Lynx with some quirks though so I really don't see your problem
i refuse to see 3 different toolkits, because it looks absolutely tacky.
I use qt-gtk for the same reason but ppl new to PCs are gonna wonder why some applications have the cancel button on the wrong side. Even more if the apps all look the same. Not newbie-friendly.
compare spacial nautilus and konq some time. which is simpler to use?
Konqueror. Spatial's dead. Even Apple saw that.
compare epiphany and konq. same question?
Epiphany is the best example for a great-discoverability bad-usability application. If you ask ppl about a gnome web browser most will say Firefox.
how about gnome configuration panels and kde config panels?
KDE despite the clutter and you know why? If my friend asks me how to change something I can give him a point-and-click answer and "What's this?" explains every option in detail. Even better, as KDE still has an apply button he can go back to the previous state by simply leaving the module and coming back later. Instant apply scares new users. Editing your Gnome-registry is scary in comparison.
not to mention that gnome looks significantly better with defaults.
pwuahahaha. Plastik is at least equal to the gnome standard and Plastik *is* the KDE standard, SuSE uses it, Mandrake uses it, every other KDE distribution uses it.
especially in fedora.
Of course, RedHat KDE is shit. Try the real thing sometime.
Why do you think most people use a erm borrowed copy of photoshop instead of the program coming with their scanners/cameras?
Photoshop is like KDE feature rich, powerful and a bit cluttered, the others are like GNOME simpler and more "elegant"
To the average user one missed feature is worse than 10 unused ones or as the author of xchat (IIRC, was a long time ago) said about why he didn't dumb down the client while switching to gtk2.0: In all my years as programmer I haven't got one single mail demanding less features
Having your apps look the same is for advanced users only.
I've been using debian for nearly two years now but the last time I compared different distributions mandrake's installer was lightyears ahead of yast and the rest was shit.
And gnome is unusable for beginners because you have to use external tools/CLI for too many things. And btw. where did you get that strange idea that gnome usability is superior. Gnome discoverability may be quite good but it loses it's importance within a week.
Yes, I am a troll but so is the parent we both offer nothing to support our claims and I am astonished how it could get modded up twice
It becomes plasma in the round thingy in the middle with help of the mighty dilithium crystals
There's no fusion, no plasma and they're cylinders and not tori therefore, nope they weren't, at least not onto a levitated dipole experiment =)
The reason is that such a policy sounds so much like something the IOC would come up with that noone doubts it
Nice to see that they're Big Brother factor is only level Microsoft, not level Patriot Act =)
When was the last time you could watch table tennis on a major network? Trampoline? Water polo?
I know that there is a firefox extension that does the same thing and I assume mozilla has one too. With opera "go to url" was one of the options in the context menu IIRC but I'm not sure
The way to navigate in an arbitrary direction within a solar system is to change your orbital speed. You're on earth and want to go to Jupiter? Spread your sails and go there. You're on Earth and want to improve your tan on Mercury? Use the sail to reduce your tangential speed (tangential to the sun) and your orbit will drop. Add some nifty fly-by maneuvers and you can go wherever you want.
In interstellar space you'll always be able to plot a course that ensures that the acceleration points in the right direction because there are many radiation sources available
That's not necessarily right. Of course no existing laser has the required power and none is focussed enough. But let's assume we could build a laser which spreads its light only a few km per light-year then suddenly even a rather weak laser would be more powerful than the sun because the light of the sun will be distributed over approximately 10^26 km^2 by then
Have you tried to remove your old configuration files before using a current version, if they're really old they sometimes do weird things
blah blah lameness filter blah
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American people."
How can I get case insensitive order in the gnome file dialog/nautilus etc.
This has to be one of the most stupid default settings btw. If you're doing a desktop for new users and are ready to piss off lots of people to achieve that goal why oh why would you use something so unintuitive
The internet is not your pretty little gated community and there definitely is something like criminal carelessness especially when you're not joe avarage user but a sysadmin.
You click on the nice help button and it tells you:
No that system is not brilliant it's anything but. On the other hand your current settings are determined by the country setting so most users won't need to change that.
Counterquestion, does GNOME have language settings nowadays? The last time I tried GNOME I couldn't find it
erm the grandparent listed the filetypes the Karma supports and as it supports a lossless codec he concluded that you don't have to use a lossy format. I don't see your problem.
Apple has developed their own proprietary lossless format that is usable on the iPod, and reduces the file size to about half that of an AIFF or WAV file.
FLAC gets about the same compression rate. In fact all lossless codecs are quite close to each other in terms of filesize.
WTF are you talking about? KDE's philosophy was framework first then the applications. All your examples aren't about applications falling behind, but catching up and often surpassing the rest.
Konqueror was unusable as main browser in the 2.x days while today it's almost as good as firefox (most rendering errors I encounter are problems with incorrectly scaled pages because I use a minimum font size - I hope they change that to a zoom function like in Opera) in some regards even better (I like the look of most pages better, the integration with the desktop is superior (oh really? =) and kio slaves rock)
Koffice is improving unbelievably fast despite a very small developer team, scribus the only really usable DTP application for Linux
A few years ago I used KDE (better file manager) but almost all my apps were gtk, now xchat is the sole survivor because it's still the best irc client.
Of course it's nice to have it implemented at fs level for speed and compatibility reasons
At least that's what someone said above and he sounded more like he knew what he was talking about than you do =)
Huh? Grow up. Do you really think T-Mobile endorsed, encouraged or even enticed (sorry that alliteration was too good to pass up =) them into doing that? We're talking about millions of people who were at the Tour it's to be expected that you find some idiots and assholes there (someone stood in the middle of the road during the last time trial).
If bin Laden used Vodafone wouldn't you use them anymore either? Or if some DoCoMo employee killed his wife? Is there any product you're still buying?
I'm German and I deeply respect Lance Armstrong and hope he'll do the Tour again next year (there're some rumours he'll choose the Giro instead) because regardless who wins next year if Armstrong didn't take part the victory would be worthless.
I really hope he stumbles sometime (doesn't mean he can't win in the end) because just as with Schuhmacher and Formula 1 (they're *so* similar =) it's gotten quite boring. A victory on the last day after a close Tour is simply much more exiting than someone winning every day
There are few sports where the athletes impress me as much as in cycling. Take the time trial yesterday 50km/h average for 55km while climbing 700 meters during that stage.
I doubt I'd be able to reach 50km/h unless rolling down a hill