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The Forums. The best Linux forums I know. I use Debian for about 2 years now but I still look in the gentoo forums first when I have a problem, and the gentoo irc channel after that. Looking for accurate, up-to-date and helpful debian documentation is an exercise in frustration management
'lost 403,300 jobs between March 2001, when the recession began, and April 2004.' Over half of those jobs - 206,300 - were lost after the recession was declared over in November 2001.
I think that dates are pretty clear. Therefore this Those lost jobs, are they measured from when the bubble started, the peak of the bubble, a pre-bubble trend line predicting normal growth?
is bullshit.
Now, about this:
India and China's high tech growth, is there a bubble over their?
It is very likely that especially China experiences a bubble at the moment, *but* the part of the economy that works for foreign corporations should be relatively resistant because it can't get into the sort of downward spiral as the rest of the economy (not domestically) due to external input but that external input reached a low-point some time ago therefore we'll see more growth the next years. The only thing stopping that will be similar wages there and in the US and/or some sort of tariffs.
Now if they did that where would all the newbies get their karma from?
Seriously I'm registered for years, have never gotten any spam from this registration and if you don't want to register head over to google or wait for the reg free link which *will* appear within 10min.
If a free painless registration is the price it takes for NYT to keep the niveau and the sheer amount of free stuff on their homepage I'm willing to pay it.
That prize would go to Debian (the old installer I don't know about the knew). The gentoo installer may be rather spartan (i.e. there is none) but their documentation is top notch and I generally had much less troubles installing gentoo than debian. Knoppix changed that because it is a fast and easy way to get a debian running and requires only a fast and easy upgrade to unstable.
"The most time consuming distro ever"
That sounds more like gentoo. I still shudder when thinking about the time I had compiled KDE and Gnome in one go only to notice that I'd forgotten some make.conf flag. =P
There's no "coherence" here. Ctrl+w closes tabs but not windows. I still don't see why there should be a no-tab situation in a browser but if grandgrandparent can think of a good reason he should tell the devs.
Because Konqueror doesn't have a "zero tab". You could have it display the white no location screen you get when you start Konqueror without a home url but I really don't see any advantage in that.
If you have a good reason for an empty window why not filing a bug report?
Actually the statement "Either you're with us, or you are with the terrorists" has been proven true, only it is the terrorists who are proving it. When they threatened the French railway system (BEFORE the actual attacks in Spain), when they attacked Russia, and when they kidnapped the French journalists and threatened to kill them if France didn't change their laws about headscarves, (etc. ad nauseum) they showed that you are either an Islamic fundamentalist with murderously intolerant beliefs, or you are not.
And yet France is still anti-Bush. Actually all that attacks proved was that the cheap jingoim in the US (the French are against us they are for Osama/Saddam/etc) was bs.
15,000 packages in one repository with no cross-dependency issues. 3 times Red Hat, 5 times SuSE.
Yeah, and stable's packages are only a few years out of date while unstable not only *has* dependency issues quite often but is also slower than the update services of the other distributions most times (kdeaddons is still 3.2.3 weeks after 3.3 and weeks after most of the other kde packages got upgraded and it breaks a number of features, great)
11 architectures (12 if you count AMD64, which will not be "official" for this release but exists and runs fine).
I think most of your customers could agree on 5 or 6 of that architectures that noone needs and would prefer a supported amd64 instead. Apart from that even x86 is really, really slow in releasing - I never actually followed release schedules for the rest but isn't it even worse for some of the more exotic architectures?
Over 1000 active developers. One of the largest Open Source projects.
You should think they'd find some people doing builds on time then
More than 10 years of successful history. It's older than RH or SuSE.
It's not. SuSE was founded end 1992, Redhat in 1993, Debian in August 1993 IIRC.
I like Debian for a number of reasons but a lot of things are really dumb perhaps you can change some of them. (changing the attitude of the people in the #debian channel on freenode would be a good start =) Every time I have a question I get a "why would you want to do that" then some ridiculing or it's simply ignored then I join the gentoo chan or some other and most times get a helpful answer. I wonder why I still bother with #debian)
For instance: "This is a promiscuous story of a lonesome "ghost" of a man, who nevertheless seeks to retain humanity. Innocence... That's what life is." about Ghost in the shell:2. What the hell is a promiscuous story?
promiscuous adj.
1. Having casual sexual relations frequently with different partners; indiscriminate in the choice of sexual partners.
2. Lacking standards of selection; indiscriminate.
3. Casual; random.
4. Consisting of diverse, unrelated parts or individuals; confused: "Throngs promiscuous strew the level green" (Alexander Pope).
So while the promiscuous part actually makes sense that whole sentence is straight from the press release i.e. it's a load of crap
Oshii knows how to do exactly 1 movie and he's been doing it for 20 years or so (Actually that's not the case but as soon as you give him a big budget that's the kind of stuff he'll produce)
It isn't much, much better it may be a little bit better (you can argue whether having the default in the lower right corner or having the buttons in the correct (for western audiences) left->right order is better and I'm not even talking about the fact that almost every new Linux user started on Windows/also uses Windows nowadays so left->right is the thing they're used to. But let's assume Apple is right because it makes no difference).
Now we have the situation that most users use applications with left->right (k3b would be one of the killer apps even the most rabid gnome fan uses when noone looks) *and* apps with right->left (gimp would be...kde fan...). Do you really think inconsistent button order is better than a consistently if slightly inferior left->right. Sorry that doesn't sound convincing.
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Spatial Nautilus today
A concept so bad even Apple dumped it despite being a corp that often likes to be different for the sake of being different.
Sorry spatial as example is like saying Gnome is not Windows-like because it gets segfaults twice as often
sawfish window manager
What exactly was different about sawfish? I'm really interested because I know a lot of people who loved it but I never really used it (I used it mostly as an app collection for enlightenment =). That said, Kwin is getting more and more powerful too.
Parent isn't thinking very deeply about desktop environments - as if placing the menubar at the top of the screen is the defining characteristic of the MacOS desktop!
The goal of MacOS is to present a well integrated simple interface. Now you can reduce the complexity of KDE with relative ease (kiosk) but bonobo (IIRC it was the counterpart of kparts) never took off and it lacks the framework. Most of the Gnome HIG talk about placing a button three pixels to the left and two down and every app has to be hand-coded to adhere to that standard while all of that can be changed once in KDE. Similar the button order, for half a year some gtk apps had the new some the old some something else.
KDE is the most configurable of the bigger DEs you can make it look like Windows but you can also go feature hunting and get a simple, limiting DE like GNOME you can place your menubar at the top of the screen like MacOS or a desktop menubar (similar but not the same as GNOME).
The vanilla KDE release is for advanced users the idea is that your distribution provides packages configured according to the needs of their customers (ie simple, reduced feature-set for Lindows, everything and a kitchensync for slackware)
KDE offers the perhaps best framework which explains why KDE apps where lacking a few years back (most gtk apps where better, had more features less bugs etc) but are often better now. Kontact's catching up on Evolution with astonishing speed because the use of kparts provides most of the functionality. Similarily Konqueror which's always derided as a bloated is vastly faster than nautilus because it's just a highly modular framework. Therefore limiting all that by saying "it's too much like Windows" is just the normal trolling from the gnome-zealots trying to justify the bad decisions by gnome (with the button order still being the most stupid decision ever, as if 20 toolkits looking different aren't enough we try to get them to behave as different as possible). Yay for goneme
(You can do most of the things that are possible with KDE on Windows too with the right extensions but they unfortunatly tend to slow down the system and are buggy as hell (I know, I tried them =) )
Feel free to mod me down it is trolling, not worse than the parent but that's at least in line with the original news posting =)
To me it sounds like the ISP shows some real integrity by trying to protect their users despite their behaviour.
Sticking to your principles even when the people you're protecting are assholes and idiots takes courage.
That said there is a difference between posting some names on a forum where perhaps some wackos will read it and at worst harrass the delegates (I don't think anyone will do real harm because they're small fish and if you really want to do something drastic you'd take a truck full of explosives and ram it into the convention center) and giving names to a government agency which can lock you away.
The US has a *very* strict seperation between what private citizens can do and what the government can do so there is a *big* difference
His slide in Iowa finished him before the media finished him off over the "I have a scream" speech.
A screem that didn't even stand out during the speech because it was too loud in that room only the media made it what it was with directional microphones. So if anything it was part of the anti-Dean campaign too =)
OTOH it's not that hard either. There's a integer decoder nowadays and it doesn't consume more power than AAC.
I've bought a Karma instead of an iPod because of ogg support and considering that xiph would gladly have helped Apple implement ogg support and Apple therefore would have gotten it for more or less nothing even 20 people buying an iPod would have meant a profit, would have, would have =)
with the scroll wheel in the top right hand corner that is barely noticable in the picture if you don't know what you're looking for.
Actually that's a good thing because one of the problems of the Karma was that when it fell on said wheel it would tend to break because a 20GB player still weighs a lot (relative to a solid state/mini-hd player)
If you read some reviews or try a rio for yourself you'll notice that they've got an interface that's just as easy to navigate as the iPod interface, often there's more than one way to do something right
Don't worry/. still doesn't use png and non-ascii vanishes mostly. It's a cool idea and just what we need which means it will start to appear in/. posts in 2012 together with Longhorn and X.org entering debian stable =)
So with that neat little trick *google* saves some tcp overhead? Hello? How many searches are they delivering each second? Each search has to use much more cpu-time/ram/bandwidth than a tcp connection attempt. I can't imagine that the few tech-savy users who don't use the official client would even be noticable on the monthly server bill.
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The Gentoo Reference Platform, from now on abbreviated to GRP, is a snapshot of prebuilt packages users (that means you!) can install during the installation of Gentoo to speed up the installation process. The GRP consists of all packages required to have a fully functional Gentoo installation. They are not just the ones you need to have a base installation up to speed in no time, but all lengthier builds (such as KDE, xorg-x11, GNOME, OpenOffice, Mozilla, ...) are available as GRP packages too.
The Forums. The best Linux forums I know. I use Debian for about 2 years now but I still look in the gentoo forums first when I have a problem, and the gentoo irc channel after that. Looking for accurate, up-to-date and helpful debian documentation is an exercise in frustration management
I think that dates are pretty clear. Therefore this
Those lost jobs, are they measured from when the bubble started, the peak of the bubble, a pre-bubble trend line predicting normal growth?
is bullshit.
Now, about this: India and China's high tech growth, is there a bubble over their?
It is very likely that especially China experiences a bubble at the moment, *but* the part of the economy that works for foreign corporations should be relatively resistant because it can't get into the sort of downward spiral as the rest of the economy (not domestically) due to external input but that external input reached a low-point some time ago therefore we'll see more growth the next years. The only thing stopping that will be similar wages there and in the US and/or some sort of tariffs.
Now if they did that where would all the newbies get their karma from?
Yes, that was a joke, yes I know that the grandparent was ac. Nothing to see here troll on
Seriously I'm registered for years, have never gotten any spam from this registration and if you don't want to register head over to google or wait for the reg free link which *will* appear within 10min.
If a free painless registration is the price it takes for NYT to keep the niveau and the sheer amount of free stuff on their homepage I'm willing to pay it.
That prize would go to Debian (the old installer I don't know about the knew). The gentoo installer may be rather spartan (i.e. there is none) but their documentation is top notch and I generally had much less troubles installing gentoo than debian. Knoppix changed that because it is a fast and easy way to get a debian running and requires only a fast and easy upgrade to unstable.
"The most time consuming distro ever"
That sounds more like gentoo. I still shudder when thinking about the time I had compiled KDE and Gnome in one go only to notice that I'd forgotten some make.conf flag. =P
Function: noun
something that performs substantially the same function as another thing in substantially the same way
There's no "coherence" here. Ctrl+w closes tabs but not windows. I still don't see why there should be a no-tab situation in a browser but if grandgrandparent can think of a good reason he should tell the devs.
If you have a good reason for an empty window why not filing a bug report?
And yet France is still anti-Bush. Actually all that attacks proved was that the cheap jingoim in the US (the French are against us they are for Osama/Saddam/etc) was bs.
Yeah, and stable's packages are only a few years out of date while unstable not only *has* dependency issues quite often but is also slower than the update services of the other distributions most times (kdeaddons is still 3.2.3 weeks after 3.3 and weeks after most of the other kde packages got upgraded and it breaks a number of features, great)
11 architectures (12 if you count AMD64, which will not be "official" for this release but exists and runs fine).
I think most of your customers could agree on 5 or 6 of that architectures that noone needs and would prefer a supported amd64 instead. Apart from that even x86 is really, really slow in releasing - I never actually followed release schedules for the rest but isn't it even worse for some of the more exotic architectures?
Over 1000 active developers. One of the largest Open Source projects.
You should think they'd find some people doing builds on time then
More than 10 years of successful history. It's older than RH or SuSE.
It's not. SuSE was founded end 1992, Redhat in 1993, Debian in August 1993 IIRC.
I like Debian for a number of reasons but a lot of things are really dumb perhaps you can change some of them. (changing the attitude of the people in the #debian channel on freenode would be a good start =) Every time I have a question I get a "why would you want to do that" then some ridiculing or it's simply ignored then I join the gentoo chan or some other and most times get a helpful answer. I wonder why I still bother with #debian)
from dictionary.com
promiscuous adj.
1. Having casual sexual relations frequently with different partners; indiscriminate in the choice of sexual partners.
2. Lacking standards of selection; indiscriminate.
3. Casual; random.
4. Consisting of diverse, unrelated parts or individuals; confused: "Throngs promiscuous strew the level green" (Alexander Pope).
So while the promiscuous part actually makes sense that whole sentence is straight from the press release i.e. it's a load of crap
Oshii knows how to do exactly 1 movie and he's been doing it for 20 years or so (Actually that's not the case but as soon as you give him a big budget that's the kind of stuff he'll produce)
Now we have the situation that most users use applications with left->right (k3b would be one of the killer apps even the most rabid gnome fan uses when noone looks) *and* apps with right->left (gimp would be...kde fan...). Do you really think inconsistent button order is better than a consistently if slightly inferior left->right. Sorry that doesn't sound convincing.
A concept so bad even Apple dumped it despite being a corp that often likes to be different for the sake of being different.
Sorry spatial as example is like saying Gnome is not Windows-like because it gets segfaults twice as often
sawfish window manager
What exactly was different about sawfish? I'm really interested because I know a lot of people who loved it but I never really used it (I used it mostly as an app collection for enlightenment =). That said, Kwin is getting more and more powerful too.
Parent isn't thinking very deeply about desktop environments - as if placing the menubar at the top of the screen is the defining characteristic of the MacOS desktop!
The goal of MacOS is to present a well integrated simple interface. Now you can reduce the complexity of KDE with relative ease (kiosk) but bonobo (IIRC it was the counterpart of kparts) never took off and it lacks the framework. Most of the Gnome HIG talk about placing a button three pixels to the left and two down and every app has to be hand-coded to adhere to that standard while all of that can be changed once in KDE. Similar the button order, for half a year some gtk apps had the new some the old some something else.
KDE is the most configurable of the bigger DEs you can make it look like Windows but you can also go feature hunting and get a simple, limiting DE like GNOME you can place your menubar at the top of the screen like MacOS or a desktop menubar (similar but not the same as GNOME).
The vanilla KDE release is for advanced users the idea is that your distribution provides packages configured according to the needs of their customers (ie simple, reduced feature-set for Lindows, everything and a kitchensync for slackware)
KDE offers the perhaps best framework which explains why KDE apps where lacking a few years back (most gtk apps where better, had more features less bugs etc) but are often better now. Kontact's catching up on Evolution with astonishing speed because the use of kparts provides most of the functionality. Similarily Konqueror which's always derided as a bloated is vastly faster than nautilus because it's just a highly modular framework. Therefore limiting all that by saying "it's too much like Windows" is just the normal trolling from the gnome-zealots trying to justify the bad decisions by gnome (with the button order still being the most stupid decision ever, as if 20 toolkits looking different aren't enough we try to get them to behave as different as possible). Yay for goneme
(You can do most of the things that are possible with KDE on Windows too with the right extensions but they unfortunatly tend to slow down the system and are buggy as hell (I know, I tried them =) )
Feel free to mod me down it is trolling, not worse than the parent but that's at least in line with the original news posting =)
Sticking to your principles even when the people you're protecting are assholes and idiots takes courage.
That said there is a difference between posting some names on a forum where perhaps some wackos will read it and at worst harrass the delegates (I don't think anyone will do real harm because they're small fish and if you really want to do something drastic you'd take a truck full of explosives and ram it into the convention center) and giving names to a government agency which can lock you away.
The US has a *very* strict seperation between what private citizens can do and what the government can do so there is a *big* difference
Feel free to buy yourself a tinfoil hat
Xiph always put widespread use before OSS zealotry, ogg is in the public domain no GPL or other restrictions anywhere.
A screem that didn't even stand out during the speech because it was too loud in that room only the media made it what it was with directional microphones. So if anything it was part of the anti-Dean campaign too =)
I've bought a Karma instead of an iPod because of ogg support and considering that xiph would gladly have helped Apple implement ogg support and Apple therefore would have gotten it for more or less nothing even 20 people buying an iPod would have meant a profit, would have, would have =)
Actually that's a good thing because one of the problems of the Karma was that when it fell on said wheel it would tend to break because a 20GB player still weighs a lot (relative to a solid state/mini-hd player)
If you read some reviews or try a rio for yourself you'll notice that they've got an interface that's just as easy to navigate as the iPod interface, often there's more than one way to do something right
Don't worry /. still doesn't use png and non-ascii vanishes mostly. It's a cool idea and just what we need which means it will start to appear in /. posts in 2012 together with Longhorn and X.org entering debian stable =)
So with that neat little trick *google* saves some tcp overhead? Hello? How many searches are they delivering each second? Each search has to use much more cpu-time/ram/bandwidth than a tcp connection attempt. I can't imagine that the few tech-savy users who don't use the official client would even be noticable on the monthly server bill.