"I think you're screwed" is a pointless post. Granted, he's in a rough position, but he's not screwed. First, he has a job, whether it will be good or not. He has the option to search for another job. He has the option not to take that job on principle and find another job, which I'm sure he can do since he got this one. It'll just take more work. Your post doesn't answer his question in any way, and serves only to make him feel worse about his situation. Don't bother posting if it will just make somebody miserable.
As for an answer to the post (not that I've been in this position), I would probably end up fighting with them by approaching the person who made the offer originally. He'll either go to bat for you or he won't. If he doesn't, I'd start hunting for another job immediately. If he does help you out, it might be worth giving the job a try, even if temporarily. Just because HR sucks doesn't mean the job sucks or the people suck. It all depends on what your impending boss does to help you out.
I despise the Office Suite. I really don't think it's set up to manage large sets of software. But, I also don't think OpenOffice.org is ready for this environment either. I've been using it recently since I don't want to shovel money at Microsoft, and it really doesn't work quite as well as office does, and I actually have more trouble with it. It pains me to say this, truely, since I really want it to be better.
In any case, given the choice, I'd rather not use either of them. I want something better to come along. Pretty soon, I'll have a Mac in my hands, and I'm going to give Apple's office suite a look. How does this compare?
I was being somewhat facetious when I posted, but partly going from my own experiences. In 1998, I payed $3.50 for a ticket. Whereas there are places around here I can go and get cheaper tickets during certain hours or with specials or whatnot, the prices around here now range from $8.75 to $9.25. I was not aware that more tickets are actually selling. I'm surprised to hear that. In my opinion, the movies (in general) recently have really sucked, with a few exceptions. Recently being the last few years.
Considering the price of movie tickets has doubled in the last 6 years. They aren't selling more tickets, they're extorting money from those willing to pay. I know I won't pay $9.25 for a single ticket. Karma will come back to haunt them in the form of file sharing...
So I wonder if this whole thing will finally give people who "just want it done" the concept that getting it done "right" is really worthwhile.
Except MS, of course. They'll make the way they do it the right way. Sorry, had to throw that in. I've been fighting with MS products all week and I'm kind of sick of them and glad the week is over.
Are you even remotely coordinated? I had problems getting motivated to exercise. Then, I got a PS2 and bought Dance Dance Revolution. It's a blast and I lost 20 pounds very easily because I had so much fun playing it. It puts the fun into exercise! Mad props to the guy who came up with this idea!
This was one of the text books for my software engineering class. It's a really entertaining read, actually. It's engaging like no other text book is, and it makes you think about quality. It also makes you (or at least me) think about the school system, and whether or not a classroom environment or an apprenticeship-type environment is the way to learn.
The difference between this approach and others is just like the difference between Linux and Windows. Windows might look real nice, but it's bloated and not completely quality-built. Linux may have it's pains (depending on distro), but it's there and it's a solid and well-crafted foundation which will grow into the great house we're all looking for.
This really is a good article to view the problems that ethics cause in business. It summarizes a lot on the subject in a brief way.
It's really hard to do good business without pissing somebody off, and they seem to have done remarkably well for the most part. Good for them!
It's also a shame that they're being blasted for being a kind of search engine monopoly. The reason google is so great is almost completely algorithmic, and people are still upset about it. As far as I can tell, they aren't using any monopolistic practices, which separates them drastically from entities like Microsoft.
I'm trying to figure out what I started with, and I wonder if I differed significantly from everybody else, though I'm probably a more recent learner than most people who post her. I basically started with a terminal and a non-working video card. After that worked and X was up, I stuck to ssh, pico, and a browser. Mozilla's the way to go there.
Also, I think about the functions I wanted when I switched to GNU/Linux. Basically, for the normal user that i was, I wanted an AIM client (gaim and AIM both work in windows and linux), a media player (mplayer became it, though there are many others), an office program/suite (staroffice works, I hear openoffice also rocks), an email program (mozilla has one, but there are others), and an mp3 player (winamp now works in Linux, and who can leave out xmms).
In the games area, UT, UT2003, and Quake3 all work in Linux. If the target audience is not into FPS games, then Tuxracer also has a working windows port demo, and GLTron is cool. That's pretty much what I started with, and all but mplayer really have ports to both. That's all I can think of offhand, though I'm sure I missed something.
I'm kind of curious to see what happens in the long run. I mean, Windows just keeps getting worse and GNU/Linux keeps getting better. Windows becomes more and more invasive, though easier to use for end users. GNU/Linux is also getting way easier to use, but really can't ever be truly invasive due to the fact that thousands of people would find out and change it rather quickly.
While they do have the right idea, I don't think they'll be able to implement it too well. With they way everything they release has problems, I think that the open source option will be that much more bug-free, easier to implement, and efficient to use. This refers mostly to the "Windows on clusters" comment he made. I just don't think they will be able to generate the feeling of "community" that they would like to. When I hear Microsoft, I think of the monopoly, the invasion of privacy, the buggy products, and the frequent crashes and reboots. It's going to be a very very long time before MS can alter my views on their products. I think many others probably feel this way, and so the community will not expand as they wish it to. They could pay people, but those people won't necessarily have the same motivation that the open-source community does.
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"I think you're screwed" is a pointless post. Granted, he's in a rough position, but he's not screwed. First, he has a job, whether it will be good or not. He has the option to search for another job. He has the option not to take that job on principle and find another job, which I'm sure he can do since he got this one. It'll just take more work. Your post doesn't answer his question in any way, and serves only to make him feel worse about his situation. Don't bother posting if it will just make somebody miserable.
As for an answer to the post (not that I've been in this position), I would probably end up fighting with them by approaching the person who made the offer originally. He'll either go to bat for you or he won't. If he doesn't, I'd start hunting for another job immediately. If he does help you out, it might be worth giving the job a try, even if temporarily. Just because HR sucks doesn't mean the job sucks or the people suck. It all depends on what your impending boss does to help you out.
I despise the Office Suite. I really don't think it's set up to manage large sets of software. But, I also don't think OpenOffice.org is ready for this environment either. I've been using it recently since I don't want to shovel money at Microsoft, and it really doesn't work quite as well as office does, and I actually have more trouble with it. It pains me to say this, truely, since I really want it to be better.
In any case, given the choice, I'd rather not use either of them. I want something better to come along. Pretty soon, I'll have a Mac in my hands, and I'm going to give Apple's office suite a look. How does this compare?
I was being somewhat facetious when I posted, but partly going from my own experiences. In 1998, I payed $3.50 for a ticket. Whereas there are places around here I can go and get cheaper tickets during certain hours or with specials or whatnot, the prices around here now range from $8.75 to $9.25. I was not aware that more tickets are actually selling. I'm surprised to hear that. In my opinion, the movies (in general) recently have really sucked, with a few exceptions. Recently being the last few years.
Considering the price of movie tickets has doubled in the last 6 years. They aren't selling more tickets, they're extorting money from those willing to pay. I know I won't pay $9.25 for a single ticket. Karma will come back to haunt them in the form of file sharing...
So I wonder if this whole thing will finally give people who "just want it done" the concept that getting it done "right" is really worthwhile.
Except MS, of course. They'll make the way they do it the right way. Sorry, had to throw that in. I've been fighting with MS products all week and I'm kind of sick of them and glad the week is over.
Are you even remotely coordinated? I had problems getting motivated to exercise. Then, I got a PS2 and bought Dance Dance Revolution. It's a blast and I lost 20 pounds very easily because I had so much fun playing it. It puts the fun into exercise! Mad props to the guy who came up with this idea!
This was one of the text books for my software engineering class. It's a really entertaining read, actually. It's engaging like no other text book is, and it makes you think about quality. It also makes you (or at least me) think about the school system, and whether or not a classroom environment or an apprenticeship-type environment is the way to learn.
The difference between this approach and others is just like the difference between Linux and Windows. Windows might look real nice, but it's bloated and not completely quality-built. Linux may have it's pains (depending on distro), but it's there and it's a solid and well-crafted foundation which will grow into the great house we're all looking for.
This really is a good article to view the problems that ethics cause in business. It summarizes a lot on the subject in a brief way.
It's really hard to do good business without pissing somebody off, and they seem to have done remarkably well for the most part. Good for them!
It's also a shame that they're being blasted for being a kind of search engine monopoly. The reason google is so great is almost completely algorithmic, and people are still upset about it. As far as I can tell, they aren't using any monopolistic practices, which separates them drastically from entities like Microsoft.
I'm trying to figure out what I started with, and I wonder if I differed significantly from everybody else, though I'm probably a more recent learner than most people who post her. I basically started with a terminal and a non-working video card. After that worked and X was up, I stuck to ssh, pico, and a browser. Mozilla's the way to go there.
Also, I think about the functions I wanted when I switched to GNU/Linux. Basically, for the normal user that i was, I wanted an AIM client (gaim and AIM both work in windows and linux), a media player (mplayer became it, though there are many others), an office program/suite (staroffice works, I hear openoffice also rocks), an email program (mozilla has one, but there are others), and an mp3 player (winamp now works in Linux, and who can leave out xmms).
In the games area, UT, UT2003, and Quake3 all work in Linux. If the target audience is not into FPS games, then Tuxracer also has a working windows port demo, and GLTron is cool. That's pretty much what I started with, and all but mplayer really have ports to both. That's all I can think of offhand, though I'm sure I missed something.
I'm kind of curious to see what happens in the long run. I mean, Windows just keeps getting worse and GNU/Linux keeps getting better. Windows becomes more and more invasive, though easier to use for end users. GNU/Linux is also getting way easier to use, but really can't ever be truly invasive due to the fact that thousands of people would find out and change it rather quickly.
While they do have the right idea, I don't think they'll be able to implement it too well. With they way everything they release has problems, I think that the open source option will be that much more bug-free, easier to implement, and efficient to use. This refers mostly to the "Windows on clusters" comment he made. I just don't think they will be able to generate the feeling of "community" that they would like to. When I hear Microsoft, I think of the monopoly, the invasion of privacy, the buggy products, and the frequent crashes and reboots. It's going to be a very very long time before MS can alter my views on their products. I think many others probably feel this way, and so the community will not expand as they wish it to. They could pay people, but those people won't necessarily have the same motivation that the open-source community does.