BT works well ATM as the current client doesn;t allow/offer any form of throtteling, this is more important when it comes to the upload stream and as such there are alot of good download clients out there for you to share/distribute from. This issue is when throtteling clients come on the scene (started already) which offer you the ability to have a full T1 yet for all effect offer a pishy modem upload rate to everybody else and then 1 at a time.
Once these clients start to take hold then BT will be just as fast as all the other P"P networks out there.
Upload throtteling should be the privledge of peole who sponser/contribute to the development of p2p clients and not joe public who eventual kill the spirit of the networks with there greed.
Is this seriously copnsidered a flaw given that most remote managed access points can be explioted in such a way - hmmm any network tbh. be it snmp or hidden udp ports for administration there there and can be found.
I can see comebody mistaking one of these scanners for the office photocopier come festive time and the office party period and instead of ending up with a momento of the occasion they will probably end up with a screen full of goatse url's.
--these are not weapons of mass destruction, there mearly encryption keys to my sons trust funds--
TO: NAS7A.all_excluding_family_and_friends.list CC: family_and_friends.list SUBJECT: Proposed visit to distant planets with cost considerations
Due to budget rescheduling and the war we currently find ourselves limited into what we may invest into reaching far and distant planets. We also not that our colleagues in the military have a surplus of intergalactic weapons which shall we say due a slight oversight in military spending on weapons due to the panic and the backorder demands from the manufacturers we find ourselves in a position to pick up some cheap err rockets. We could use these `rockets` to perhaps bring the planets closer to se so as to save on fuel. perhaps in the chance extracts a few chunks off in the process so they land in the desert and we can then say we went there as well;o). No as we `know` exactly what the moon is made of as we have been there several times `honest guv` looks at the prerty rocks; we could test this new rocket approach out on the moon given we already have been there and know everything about its and say do it in the guise of say research into water on the moon for possible future missions. Coz any fool knows that it would be cheaper just to drop a few bottles of Evian onto the surface but were talking to the public here and the rest are either on our side or on the internet so they don't count;). Ok so that's the plan we'll do a mission to the moon to test out to see if there is any water and use a heavily modified `rocket` to deliver the payload and basically blast the crap of the crust of the moon and see what pops up. Sure that's enough detail for the press, we'll but the marketing boys onto it ; they know how to jazz things up a bit. Hell they should we poached them from CNN.
Seeing as you dont need a hacker to break it then technicaly they could make hackers obsolete. Of course the growth in crackers is and will be astonomical.
If there serious in selling internet portales then a free site certificate thats certified by recocnised organisation might be a step in the right direction but the only hacker/craker proof NT system I've seen had a blue screen and was locked down solid as a box switched off:)
Just because you can fit a scredriver into a wallsocket means it was intended for such purposes. Not all applications are deemed buggy just becase to port scan crashes the application.
There are many many forms of port scanning used today and some can casues problems/highlight unforseen issues both good and bad. For example there is one manufactures fault tolllerant clustering software that would crsh due to one form of port scanning. There's one WIFI (well a few actualy) that spit out there encryption keys due to another form of port scanning.
What is a standard port scan - connect scan perhaps. And most applications are fine with that. Perhaps some internal services bork in some of the more exotic UDP scans but thats to be expected. Imagine you have an operating system that can run on hundereds of motherboards with numerous cpu types and pci/agp/isa/eisa/mca cards in a multitude of slot permutations. Have they realy ALL been tested. Impossible to do given that the combinations outnumber all our manours put together for life. So for a manufacture to be guilty of writting buggy software in a networking enviroment would you not have to clarify what a non buggy networking infrastructure and packets were first. For technicly it is the network/network traffic that is buggy in the context of a port scan and not the application, as some might say and they would be right. But a fault is a fault and in the previous contexts they are not very clever in that they circumvent what the products are supposed to achieve, so in this context given the results they would indeed be software bugs.
End of the day I agree a bug in any context is still a bug nomater where the fault lies you must cater for all situations and trust no one with regards to following the golden RFC rules, for rules can and will be broken, otherwise they wouldn't be rules of measurement in the first place now would they.
Is this apples way of avoiding any SCO like attacks that Mr Gore invented the internet and as such all internet devices belong to him and should pay a levey for the privledge.
I highly suspect that there is more to this strategic(benifit of doubt given) move than meets the eye. Beyond the obvious profile in certain market penetration opertunities and usual PR (again benifit of doubt given) I'm at a loss.
I suspect that given the facts Sherlock Holmes would conclude that it is mearly marketing build up for a new product launch and given rumours and ratifications of wireless standards and the cost and storage capacity of solid state these days and user demand for more power/smaller and longer running times. A new iPOD with video/wifi wouldnt't be that bad.
Still he may have been popular in China and with markets opening up there, again marketing of the strategic kind.
Well I might have missed something but if all else fails they still have the backward underpant gnomes approach:D.
Seeing as it is possible to to illicit a DoS or due to poor program design actualy crash applications with a simple port scanning then you have to question if its even a gray area, ie if you do damage its bad, if not your ok.
Port scanning is akin to ringing somebodies phone and hanging up when they pick up. Fun, potentialy annoying, potentialy very annoying with regards to the target.
The only people I portscan are people who appear in my firewall logs or friends with prior concent. Never throw the 1st punch, just document who did and play on.
Whilst its not just there yet on the studio production level with its internal DAC's would it not be most effective as such with its digital out and a comercial DAC! Lets face it if your realy realy serious about recordings then you would do everything digitaly and then when you need that lovely analogue sound then just use the digital output's that have been around since day 1 of the live series and an external DAC. Most hifi shops sell such audiophile components and combined with a nice soundcard and latest PC power. Then it still boils down to the ability of the user to work within the interface bounds they are given.
Soundblaster cards have always had there quirks but like the microsoft operating system there fairly common/standard and they are known quirks and workarounds. All this screaming for the perfect dB rating of the outputs and frequency range tetc etc its pointless when you can work totaly digitaly even down to burning onto CD and digitaly outputing the signal to an external DAC. Anybody who has botherd to have speakers worthy of such a quality output will think nothing if not already have an external DAC for the CD player, with its advantage that it cuts down on interferance from the rest of the CD player/components.
What I'd like to see is an external firwire connected soundcard that is mainly software based with external DAC for output and the money spent there. Todays PC's are more than capable of doing alot of the work instead of an onboard DSP and a fast connection to an external breakout box with audio in/out and digital in/out etc would be all that is effectivly required from a user. the main cost of such a device would be in software and the hardware costs would be very comparable to todays kit even with a top end DAC included.
Still I suspect that most people just play games and use headphones and play mp3's so the quality aspect whilst a plus is not exactly on there priority given there speaker/amp situation and the source of the materal there playing. Everybody I know that does anything else with there soundcard use a soundblaster or some top end unheard of brand and are more than happy. Remeber its a home PC soundcard not RADIO FM's main broadcast headend, though I suspect that it would be more than capable of the job without the external DAC without going to the expense of a £1000+ specilist card like a digigram.
Why emulate the IP stack when with the pattented/. effect you can make any webserver look like it actualy is an apple printer.
11 posts and already my browser is in for the long night.
Personaly I would have thought setting a couple of reserved bits in the header at random and change the telnet banner to "my other system is a skoda" and I suspect your will be just as well of:)
ebay - hehe - I'll take your word for that as I cant find them, must be a new slashdot effect *shudders at prospect of story based ebay parts selling*. I assume all cheap ebay adapters have been purchased in preperation for artile DUP =).
Still with cheap gigabit adapters available for new and the speed of fast IDE discs then I shant worry.
Still your right with ebay part it CAN be done, so I stand corrected upon the question of the price; though still would like to see cheaper off the shelf parts. but it will come.
noway can you get a host adapter for $40 - just about get a gigabit ethernet adapter for that but a fiberattached iSCSI card, naaa:. Shame the chap never realy check the prices with his pricewatch links/common sence $40, hehehe I wish, I can only wish.
I find it supprising that the chipset manufactures dont release some OEM board dirt cheap doing 4 or 8 cpu's. That way they would make there money on the CPU's. Kind of a loss leader in elling chips in a way though akin to McDonalds giving you the burger letting you chose your prefered brand of drink and charging you an arm and a leg for every frenchfry errr sorry freedom fries, O bloody hell there chips, small chips; Tiny lickle bits of potatoes cuts realy small and mean because nobody can be assed to cook chips properly as it takes time (tip is to cook them partualy then alow to cool and then carry on cooking;).
So in summary cheaper multi CPU boards from the manufacturers sells more CPU's and more memory == profit/rather swanky large collection of underpants.
Indeed and you can multipath discs/loops across adapters to gain 80MBps as well as redundancy adapter and cable/loop wise. Yes the shark has loads of these and a couple of rs/6000's inside loaded with SSA adapters. As for the distances, well you can get several kilometers with a fiber ssa adapter. There's a few airports that use this in a redundandt way mirroring data to the other side of the runway/airport for best data riliance given that a crashed aircraft can only rely at best take out half the airport and these are very very big places.
Question is now why dont IBM muscle in by selling cheap adapters or do favourabvle royalaties on the SSA interface.
I find this depressing and blame the perl programmers with jobs for writing such good code that nobody ever needs to change it. Curse you perl programmers for disobeying laws of buggy unmanagable code.
LOL, so very true about the screensavers - I'd swear MCSE's of the day used to show there skill of by how fast the OpenGL screensavers ran. Also struck me a odd that you'd want a server/desktop with 100% of its priority to the interface, especialy with IE (NT 4 without IE updates is fast as hell). But there again its the same train of peeps that use a gui as administrator, and windows top security guru's not only let you but also dont even blink at with a warning saying "right do what you hav to do an then fudge off back to normal user land".
Still at least NT can boast better security with its administator rights and various levels/roles unlike the standard unix god/plebs/friends of plebs level of rights, though that has improved upon certain flavours of nix.
Indeed your correct and the UNIX equivelent is the nice command that changes a process's priority. Given you have a finer control of said process's your then able to more finely prirotise what gets 1st bite of the apple. This command has been around longer than MS-DOS v1.0 and whilst handy is still a long way off a process/task scheduler that is the subject of the main article.
So be nice to everybody else and you reduce lifes unplesant intteruptions. In theory that is, like any rule there are always exceptions, by the mear fact that any rule is either true or false. Role on quantum thought =)
Given that it was designed to be the least effecient form of input given the arrangement (believe any random layout is likely to be at least 10% more effecient) you have to wonder at people with the latest and greatest techology at there fingertips calling people lydites when they use a QWERTY keyboard:)
Excuse me but surly you'd more likely download a DVD from Holland, rather than upload. What kind of student use this bandwidth (O yeah, ones that sell it to spammers, duh). So there basing the internet2 upon a bunch of ideal's and lots of raw power/speed - sounds like a good place to start. Role on FTL routers -- Just in time to make it all obsolete.
I find this extreemly funny considering the number of job agencies that have been partaking in the practice of false job adverts for as long as I can remember, purly to get people on there books and CV's registered with them. It would seem they fear the competition, or is this there way of coping out the fact they dont vet jobs/job advertisers at all.
I dont see/. on the list , therefore IMHO the list is null and void. Lets have a/. public vote of the best inventions that changed the world in the past 10 years. I'm sure that there is more than is given credit.
Well Sending out a doll too; Well alot of staff is to say the least tempting fate in the voodoo magic department. Lets face it. If I was a tight assed boss who just sent all my faithful employee's a doll. I'd pay a very close eye on stationary requests for pins and staples for the next to weeks.
We want the option of SMP on SUN kit as well.
Seriously SMP is well needed seeing as most OpenBSD box's are yesterdays coperate kit. Also given intels SMP on a chip play along with Power4 dual cores on the market now that by the time they make it into your average geeks home SMP should be stable.
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BT works well ATM as the current client doesn;t allow/offer any form of throtteling, this is more important when it comes to the upload stream and as such there are alot of good download clients out there for you to share/distribute from. This issue is when throtteling clients come on the scene (started already) which offer you the ability to have a full T1 yet for all effect offer a pishy modem upload rate to everybody else and then 1 at a time.
Once these clients start to take hold then BT will be just as fast as all the other P"P networks out there.
Upload throtteling should be the privledge of peole who sponser/contribute to the development of p2p clients and not joe public who eventual kill the spirit of the networks with there greed.
Is this seriously copnsidered a flaw given that most remote managed access points can be explioted in such a way - hmmm any network tbh. be it snmp or hidden udp ports for administration there there and can be found.
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I can see comebody mistaking one of these scanners for the office photocopier come festive time and the office party period and instead of ending up with a momento of the occasion they will probably end up with a screen full of goatse url's. --these are not weapons of mass destruction, there mearly encryption keys to my sons trust funds--
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;o). No as we `know` exactly what the moon is made of as we have been there several times `honest guv` looks at the prerty rocks; we could test this new rocket approach out on the moon given we already have been there and know everything about its and say do it in the guise of say research into water on the moon for possible future missions. Coz any fool knows that it would be cheaper just to drop a few bottles of Evian onto the surface but were talking to the public here and the rest are either on our side or on the internet so they don't count ;). Ok so that's the plan we'll do a mission to the moon to test out to see if there is any water and use a heavily modified `rocket` to deliver the payload and basically blast the crap of the crust of the moon and see what pops up. Sure that's enough detail for the press, we'll but the marketing boys onto it ; they know how to jazz things up a bit. Hell they should we poached them from CNN.
CC: family_and_friends.list
SUBJECT: Proposed visit to distant planets with cost considerations
Due to budget rescheduling and the war we currently find ourselves limited into what we may invest into reaching far and distant planets. We also not that our colleagues in the military have a surplus of intergalactic weapons which shall we say due a slight oversight in military spending on weapons due to the panic and the backorder demands from the manufacturers we find ourselves in a position to pick up some cheap err rockets. We could use these `rockets` to perhaps bring the planets closer to se so as to save on fuel. perhaps in the chance extracts a few chunks off in the process so they land in the desert and we can then say we went there as well
Seeing as you dont need a hacker to break it then technicaly they could make hackers obsolete. Of course the growth in crackers is and will be astonomical.
:)
If there serious in selling internet portales then a free site certificate thats certified by recocnised organisation might be a step in the right direction but the only hacker/craker proof NT system I've seen had a blue screen and was locked down solid as a box switched off
Just because you can fit a scredriver into a wallsocket means it was intended for such purposes. Not all applications are deemed buggy just becase to port scan crashes the application. There are many many forms of port scanning used today and some can casues problems/highlight unforseen issues both good and bad. For example there is one manufactures fault tolllerant clustering software that would crsh due to one form of port scanning. There's one WIFI (well a few actualy) that spit out there encryption keys due to another form of port scanning. What is a standard port scan - connect scan perhaps. And most applications are fine with that. Perhaps some internal services bork in some of the more exotic UDP scans but thats to be expected. Imagine you have an operating system that can run on hundereds of motherboards with numerous cpu types and pci/agp/isa/eisa/mca cards in a multitude of slot permutations. Have they realy ALL been tested. Impossible to do given that the combinations outnumber all our manours put together for life. So for a manufacture to be guilty of writting buggy software in a networking enviroment would you not have to clarify what a non buggy networking infrastructure and packets were first. For technicly it is the network/network traffic that is buggy in the context of a port scan and not the application, as some might say and they would be right. But a fault is a fault and in the previous contexts they are not very clever in that they circumvent what the products are supposed to achieve, so in this context given the results they would indeed be software bugs. End of the day I agree a bug in any context is still a bug nomater where the fault lies you must cater for all situations and trust no one with regards to following the golden RFC rules, for rules can and will be broken, otherwise they wouldn't be rules of measurement in the first place now would they.
Is this apples way of avoiding any SCO like attacks that Mr Gore invented the internet and as such all internet devices belong to him and should pay a levey for the privledge.
:D.
I highly suspect that there is more to this strategic(benifit of doubt given) move than meets the eye. Beyond the obvious profile in certain market penetration opertunities and usual PR (again benifit of doubt given) I'm at a loss.
I suspect that given the facts Sherlock Holmes would conclude that it is mearly marketing build up for a new product launch and given rumours and ratifications of wireless standards and the cost and storage capacity of solid state these days and user demand for more power/smaller and longer running times. A new iPOD with video/wifi wouldnt't be that bad.
Still he may have been popular in China and with markets opening up there, again marketing of the strategic kind.
Well I might have missed something but if all else fails they still have the backward underpant gnomes approach
Seeing as it is possible to to illicit a DoS or due to poor program design actualy crash applications with a simple port scanning then you have to question if its even a gray area, ie if you do damage its bad, if not your ok.
Port scanning is akin to ringing somebodies phone and hanging up when they pick up. Fun, potentialy annoying, potentialy very annoying with regards to the target.
The only people I portscan are people who appear in my firewall logs or friends with prior concent. Never throw the 1st punch, just document who did and play on.
Whilst its not just there yet on the studio production level with its internal DAC's would it not be most effective as such with its digital out and a comercial DAC! Lets face it if your realy realy serious about recordings then you would do everything digitaly and then when you need that lovely analogue sound then just use the digital output's that have been around since day 1 of the live series and an external DAC. Most hifi shops sell such audiophile components and combined with a nice soundcard and latest PC power. Then it still boils down to the ability of the user to work within the interface bounds they are given. Soundblaster cards have always had there quirks but like the microsoft operating system there fairly common/standard and they are known quirks and workarounds. All this screaming for the perfect dB rating of the outputs and frequency range tetc etc its pointless when you can work totaly digitaly even down to burning onto CD and digitaly outputing the signal to an external DAC. Anybody who has botherd to have speakers worthy of such a quality output will think nothing if not already have an external DAC for the CD player, with its advantage that it cuts down on interferance from the rest of the CD player/components. What I'd like to see is an external firwire connected soundcard that is mainly software based with external DAC for output and the money spent there. Todays PC's are more than capable of doing alot of the work instead of an onboard DSP and a fast connection to an external breakout box with audio in/out and digital in/out etc would be all that is effectivly required from a user. the main cost of such a device would be in software and the hardware costs would be very comparable to todays kit even with a top end DAC included. Still I suspect that most people just play games and use headphones and play mp3's so the quality aspect whilst a plus is not exactly on there priority given there speaker/amp situation and the source of the materal there playing. Everybody I know that does anything else with there soundcard use a soundblaster or some top end unheard of brand and are more than happy. Remeber its a home PC soundcard not RADIO FM's main broadcast headend, though I suspect that it would be more than capable of the job without the external DAC without going to the expense of a £1000+ specilist card like a digigram.
Why emulate the IP stack when with the pattented /. effect you can make any webserver look like it actualy is an apple printer.
:)
11 posts and already my browser is in for the long night.
Personaly I would have thought setting a couple of reserved bits in the header at random and change the telnet banner to "my other system is a skoda" and I suspect your will be just as well of
ebay - hehe - I'll take your word for that as I cant find them, must be a new slashdot effect *shudders at prospect of story based ebay parts selling*. I assume all cheap ebay adapters have been purchased in preperation for artile DUP =).
Still with cheap gigabit adapters available for new and the speed of fast IDE discs then I shant worry.
Still your right with ebay part it CAN be done, so I stand corrected upon the question of the price; though still would like to see cheaper off the shelf parts. but it will come.
noway can you get a host adapter for $40 - just about get a gigabit ethernet adapter for that but a fiberattached iSCSI card, naaa :. Shame the chap never realy check the prices with his pricewatch links/common sence $40, hehehe I wish, I can only wish.
I find it supprising that the chipset manufactures dont release some OEM board dirt cheap doing 4 or 8 cpu's. That way they would make there money on the CPU's. Kind of a loss leader in elling chips in a way though akin to McDonalds giving you the burger letting you chose your prefered brand of drink and charging you an arm and a leg for every frenchfry errr sorry freedom fries, O bloody hell there chips, small chips; Tiny lickle bits of potatoes cuts realy small and mean because nobody can be assed to cook chips properly as it takes time (tip is to cook them partualy then alow to cool and then carry on cooking ;).
So in summary cheaper multi CPU boards from the manufacturers sells more CPU's and more memory == profit/rather swanky large collection of underpants.
Indeed and you can multipath discs/loops across adapters to gain 80MBps as well as redundancy adapter and cable/loop wise. Yes the shark has loads of these and a couple of rs/6000's inside loaded with SSA adapters. As for the distances, well you can get several kilometers with a fiber ssa adapter. There's a few airports that use this in a redundandt way mirroring data to the other side of the runway/airport for best data riliance given that a crashed aircraft can only rely at best take out half the airport and these are very very big places. Question is now why dont IBM muscle in by selling cheap adapters or do favourabvle royalaties on the SSA interface.
I find this depressing and blame the perl programmers with jobs for writing such good code that nobody ever needs to change it. Curse you perl programmers for disobeying laws of buggy unmanagable code.
What can I say - the above title is clearly needed and has a fantastic sales oppotunity waiting several times a year.
All science has a responsibility to be responsibly funny, otherwise accidents happen.
LOL, so very true about the screensavers - I'd swear MCSE's of the day used to show there skill of by how fast the OpenGL screensavers ran. Also struck me a odd that you'd want a server/desktop with 100% of its priority to the interface, especialy with IE (NT 4 without IE updates is fast as hell). But there again its the same train of peeps that use a gui as administrator, and windows top security guru's not only let you but also dont even blink at with a warning saying "right do what you hav to do an then fudge off back to normal user land". Still at least NT can boast better security with its administator rights and various levels/roles unlike the standard unix god/plebs/friends of plebs level of rights, though that has improved upon certain flavours of nix.
Indeed your correct and the UNIX equivelent is the nice command that changes a process's priority. Given you have a finer control of said process's your then able to more finely prirotise what gets 1st bite of the apple. This command has been around longer than MS-DOS v1.0 and whilst handy is still a long way off a process/task scheduler that is the subject of the main article. So be nice to everybody else and you reduce lifes unplesant intteruptions. In theory that is, like any rule there are always exceptions, by the mear fact that any rule is either true or false. Role on quantum thought =)
Given that it was designed to be the least effecient form of input given the arrangement (believe any random layout is likely to be at least 10% more effecient) you have to wonder at people with the latest and greatest techology at there fingertips calling people lydites when they use a QWERTY keyboard :)
Excuse me but surly you'd more likely download a DVD from Holland, rather than upload. What kind of student use this bandwidth (O yeah, ones that sell it to spammers, duh). So there basing the internet2 upon a bunch of ideal's and lots of raw power/speed - sounds like a good place to start. Role on FTL routers -- Just in time to make it all obsolete.
I find this extreemly funny considering the number of job agencies that have been partaking in the practice of false job adverts for as long as I can remember, purly to get people on there books and CV's registered with them. It would seem they fear the competition, or is this there way of coping out the fact they dont vet jobs/job advertisers at all.
I dont see /. on the list , therefore IMHO the list is null and void. Lets have a /. public vote of the best inventions that changed the world in the past 10 years. I'm sure that there is more than is given credit.
Well Sending out a doll too; Well alot of staff is to say the least tempting fate in the voodoo magic department. Lets face it. If I was a tight assed boss who just sent all my faithful employee's a doll. I'd pay a very close eye on stationary requests for pins and staples for the next to weeks.
We want the option of SMP on SUN kit as well. Seriously SMP is well needed seeing as most OpenBSD box's are yesterdays coperate kit. Also given intels SMP on a chip play along with Power4 dual cores on the market now that by the time they make it into your average geeks home SMP should be stable.