My copy tuned up yesterday and I started reading it in the bath this morning - looks interesting but has a rather odd line on the GPL when it says, in effect, if you write a device driver for the kernel it will not find itself covered by the GPL.
Now, I know that major wars rage on this issue in the Linux world, but this book leaves no room for doubt.
Look at all those old scientific theories coming back - the heliocentric theory is totally discredited, the Milky Way is the only galaxy in the universe, and the electronic signals generating this message propogate through the ether - or was that pholgiston, I dunno, these old theories come back so often.
And I am sure you follow Bishop Ussher's view of cosmology, as that never went out of fashion with the sort of right wing morons you must hang around with.
Yep, you Americans get the government your bosses pay for. Forget the treaty for a moment and reform the campaign finance system that means you get such callow, brain dead politicians that they would sell your country and its future for a few bucks.
By the way, if you are one of those right wing morons who thinks global warming isn't real, or worse, doesn't matter, go ahead and mod me down. Because I have got a brain I've posted enough intelligent contributions to have karma to burn!
It really wasn't that costly to run a single line board,
I think it was probably a little different here (UK). No free or flat rate local calls until quite recently and I think telecomms charges were higher too, generally.
Everything else costs more as well!
The business model from hell
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People really should have looked at BBSes and said "err, no money is ever going to be made out of this internet thingy".
Why did people do them? For fun, but so many of them closed down because the owners ran out of cash (or their wives told them they'd run out of cash and a lot more besides unless they shut them down).
They were fun, sure, When I got my first modem (94 or so) I used to visit them as much as I'd use my IP connection, but as soon as they started to charge I was outta there.
Imagine if this stuff was placed in Wintel machines - that old buffer over run problem was disappear overnight.
Sounds like a real Linux killer to me.
Re:In past ages the philosphers...
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Can you really look at history over the last 100 years and say that communism has aided human development more?
If the best defence of capitalism is that it's not the Soviet Union then clearly pro-capitalists are morally bankrupt.
The cold war is over. Screaming "Commie" at those who disagree with you is no longer acceptible. Read my post again - I'm not defending Communoism, I am lamenting the lack of a left politics that gets to grips with the problems articulated by users of/.
No, that's correct, you mentioned `Marxism', just as did any number of the last century's tyrants. In their time, any number of philosophies, Communism included, paraded themselves as the `real' Marxism, and we've seen where each of them led. So again, you'll have to forgive our skepticism.
Why can you only engage in this argument in terms of cliches? Are ideas and debate too difficult for you because they challenge the simplistic sloganeering you engage in?
The market fails. Or are you saying MS should be celebrated as a great success story and simply left to get on with it?
For the first time ever capitalism is a world economic system and it is failing billions of people.
Democrats are entitled to say that without being accused of wanting to impose a dictatorship. Have you heard of Felipe Gonzales, Willi Brandt? They'd both read and been influenced by Marx, are they/were they closet Stalinists?
Every social democrat in the world today lives in the shadow of Marxian thought. Are they to be supressed as dictators in waiting?
/. is full of posts about the failings of the capitalist system, the fact that Marxist politics has been a complete failure does not mean that Marxist sociology is worthless - that's the point I made in my original post.
On the contrary, I understand what you are saying, and want to point out that in their time, each of Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Ho Chi Minh, Pol Pot, and others thought that what had been tried so far was not `real' communism, and if only given the chance they could do better. And we've all seen what happened when they were given that chance.
So again, you'll have to forgive us if we take a long hard look at the tens of millions lying in unmarked graves, and vow that we'll never again take a chance with systems which put the rights of the commune over the rights of the individual, no matter how good their proponents try to make them sound.,br>
Who mentioned Communism? I didn't!
I specifically said that the issue was developing a politics that connected the discontents of/.ers - who were reporting phenomena explained by Marxists/Marxians with a humane and no-repressive approach.
I think the experience of the Soviet Union et al suggests that the state is not the answer to these problems.
But clearly the market isn't either - as we are having to interfere with the market all over the place, Ma Bell, Microsoft, the lsit goes on...
In past ages the philosphers...
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"History repeats itself, the first time is tragedy, the second time, farce." So quoth Karl Marx.
Of course nobody would admit to being a Marxist or even a Marxian - think of all those killed in the Soviet Union and China.
But it seems that you can't keep a good idea down and those of the Marxist critical theorists of the Frankfurt School keep coming up again and again in/.
This is what capitalism does, people - it tends to monopoly, and restricts human development.
The great pity is that the left - and nowhere more so than in the US - seem unable to produce a decent theory of politics - the theory of praxis as it was once called - that connects the frustrations of those who post these articles on/. with proposals to change the world.
Capitalism is still making us pay for the Soviet Union's experience of repression.
Errr...surly its because it's not very good
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Look, I don't live there and it's really none of my business...but...
Given the amount of times industry financing of congressmen's and senators' campaigns are mentioned I would suggest asking a pertinent question on campaign finance!
To this casual observer that seems to be at the root of a lot of the problems the hacker community are facing over there.
Curiously - apart from mass data storage repositories for corporations, does anyone think we'll reach a limit to the amount of data we'll need as individuals?.
I wouldn't have thought so - as we synthesize intelligence we we will need to represent more complex relationships and entities.
Of course, if the universe is finite, then there is a limit on data that can be represented. At least I think so...
We need to face the facts. The Linux distro business model just doesn't work and sooner or later, a lot of the distro people are again going to be amateurs doing it for love and not money.
All that might be a good thing as the emergence of a clear commercial leader can only help Linux in the business world - it still looks like too much of an anarchy at the moment.
My first distro was a shrinkwrap job, but now I know I'd never do that again - there is no money to be made out of me or anyone like me. My contribution is in code and similar efforts.
When the shakeout comes then the hacker community are really going to be tested - without that money it is back to people in their bedrooms churning it out. Are they/we up to it?
The thing that strikes me about a lot of things like this is that they are immediately exploited by the anti-virus software writers, but not by the big Unix/Linux vendors.
If I was in IBM I would have a budget set aside to ramp up a scary campaign about this and every other big worm/exploit - I'd be buying the spots right now to go on the offensive.
Gentlemen, your opponent is drowning, so throw the son of a bitch an anvil.
The only thing you need release is the kernel changes.
This is a GPL fallacy. You don't have to "release" anything. You simply have to supply the code to (or more accurately make it available to) anyone you distribute the application to.
For a consumer device that is obviously as nearly identical to "releasing" as it is possible to get, but it does not mean that for smaller scale more specialised operations of the sort you might encounter in some areas of embedded development.
I think Stallman would expect you to release the code to anyone who asked - after all he is supposed to have become obsessed by software freedom because of an incident where someone woiuldn't let him have some code they were using (as opposed to distributing) - but that isn't what the GPL mandates you to do.
And quite right too - otherwise it would be a code snoopers' charter.
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My copy tuned up yesterday and I started reading it in the bath this morning - looks interesting but has a rather odd line on the GPL when it says, in effect, if you write a device driver for the kernel it will not find itself covered by the GPL.
Now, I know that major wars rage on this issue in the Linux world, but this book leaves no room for doubt.
Anybody else read it and care to comment?
Yeah, you are soooo right.
Look at all those old scientific theories coming back - the heliocentric theory is totally discredited, the Milky Way is the only galaxy in the universe, and the electronic signals generating this message propogate through the ether - or was that pholgiston, I dunno, these old theories come back so often.
And I am sure you follow Bishop Ussher's view of cosmology, as that never went out of fashion with the sort of right wing morons you must hang around with.
Yep, you Americans get the government your bosses pay for. Forget the treaty for a moment and reform the campaign finance system that means you get such callow, brain dead politicians that they would sell your country and its future for a few bucks.
By the way, if you are one of those right wing morons who thinks global warming isn't real, or worse, doesn't matter, go ahead and mod me down. Because I have got a brain I've posted enough intelligent contributions to have karma to burn!
It really wasn't that costly to run a single line board,
I think it was probably a little different here (UK). No free or flat rate local calls until quite recently and I think telecomms charges were higher too, generally.
Everything else costs more as well!
People really should have looked at BBSes and said "err, no money is ever going to be made out of this internet thingy".
Why did people do them? For fun, but so many of them closed down because the owners ran out of cash (or their wives told them they'd run out of cash and a lot more besides unless they shut them down).
They were fun, sure, When I got my first modem (94 or so) I used to visit them as much as I'd use my IP connection, but as soon as they started to charge I was outta there.
All sound familiar?
So my plans for "United Hurd" had better gon the back burner...
Imagine if this stuff was placed in Wintel machines - that old buffer over run problem was disappear overnight.
Sounds like a real Linux killer to me.
Can you really look at history over the last 100 years and say that communism has aided human development more?
/.
If the best defence of capitalism is that it's not the Soviet Union then clearly pro-capitalists are morally bankrupt.
The cold war is over. Screaming "Commie" at those who disagree with you is no longer acceptible. Read my post again - I'm not defending Communoism, I am lamenting the lack of a left politics that gets to grips with the problems articulated by users of
No, that's correct, you mentioned `Marxism', just as did any number of the last century's tyrants. In their time, any number of philosophies, Communism included, paraded themselves as the `real' Marxism, and we've seen where each of them led. So again, you'll have to forgive our skepticism.
/. is full of posts about the failings of the capitalist system, the fact that Marxist politics has been a complete failure does not mean that Marxist sociology is worthless - that's the point I made in my original post.
Why can you only engage in this argument in terms of cliches? Are ideas and debate too difficult for you because they challenge the simplistic sloganeering you engage in?
The market fails. Or are you saying MS should be celebrated as a great success story and simply left to get on with it?
For the first time ever capitalism is a world economic system and it is failing billions of people.
Democrats are entitled to say that without being accused of wanting to impose a dictatorship. Have you heard of Felipe Gonzales, Willi Brandt? They'd both read and been influenced by Marx, are they/were they closet Stalinists?
Every social democrat in the world today lives in the shadow of Marxian thought. Are they to be supressed as dictators in waiting?
On the contrary, I understand what you are saying, and want to point out that in their time, each of Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Ho Chi Minh, Pol Pot, and others thought that what had been tried so far was not `real' communism, and if only given the chance they could do better. And we've all seen what happened when they were given that chance.
/.ers - who were reporting phenomena explained by Marxists/Marxians with a humane and no-repressive approach.
So again, you'll have to forgive us if we take a long hard look at the tens of millions lying in unmarked graves, and vow that we'll never again take a chance with systems which put the rights of the commune over the rights of the individual, no matter how good their proponents try to make them sound.,br>
Who mentioned Communism? I didn't!
I specifically said that the issue was developing a politics that connected the discontents of
I think the experience of the Soviet Union et al suggests that the state is not the answer to these problems.
But clearly the market isn't either - as we are having to interfere with the market all over the place, Ma Bell, Microsoft, the lsit goes on...
"History repeats itself, the first time is tragedy, the second time, farce." So quoth Karl Marx.
/.
/. with proposals to change the world.
Of course nobody would admit to being a Marxist or even a Marxian - think of all those killed in the Soviet Union and China.
But it seems that you can't keep a good idea down and those of the Marxist critical theorists of the Frankfurt School keep coming up again and again in
This is what capitalism does, people - it tends to monopoly, and restricts human development.
The great pity is that the left - and nowhere more so than in the US - seem unable to produce a decent theory of politics - the theory of praxis as it was once called - that connects the frustrations of those who post these articles on
Capitalism is still making us pay for the Soviet Union's experience of repression.
And "Episode One" wasn't eaxctly a thrill either.
Look, I don't live there and it's really none of my business...but...
Given the amount of times industry financing of congressmen's and senators' campaigns are mentioned I would suggest asking a pertinent question on campaign finance!
To this casual observer that seems to be at the root of a lot of the problems the hacker community are facing over there.
the Consumer Broadband and Digital Television Promotion Act
Ehhh...if it's already an Act, aren't you stuffed already? Surely it's a Bill. (I don't live in the US, so don't know the answer).
Any sysadmin with sense would of course allow the machine to be blocked only by request from the downstream link
But what if that is a proxy, or a distribution of dial ups? Seems to me that even a good sysadmin would find themselves cutting off a lot of people.
Curiously - apart from mass data storage repositories for corporations, does anyone think we'll reach a limit to the amount of data we'll need as individuals?.
I wouldn't have thought so - as we synthesize intelligence we we will need to represent more complex relationships and entities.
Of course, if the universe is finite, then there is a limit on data that can be represented. At least I think so...
We need to face the facts. The Linux distro business model just doesn't work and sooner or later, a lot of the distro people are again going to be amateurs doing it for love and not money.
All that might be a good thing as the emergence of a clear commercial leader can only help Linux in the business world - it still looks like too much of an anarchy at the moment.
My first distro was a shrinkwrap job, but now I know I'd never do that again - there is no money to be made out of me or anyone like me. My contribution is in code and similar efforts.
When the shakeout comes then the hacker community are really going to be tested - without that money it is back to people in their bedrooms churning it out. Are they/we up to it?
for me to buy an xbox. 199 price and mod chips on the horizon, is there anything better?
/.. Do you need another one? Well, buy a dual processor one on ebay, much better.
But why?
You clearly have a computer - how else do you post to
What to improve your skills? Get a Dreamcast - dirt cheap second hand - or a PS2. At least then you're just not churning out more ia32 code.
Can they be jailed if they refuse to pay?
We already have public access wireless in the UK - look at this for instance.
And this is running at a faster rate!
How long can silent electronics last in space?
If it's an IBM Li-Ion battery, about 15 minutes.
The thing that strikes me about a lot of things like this is that they are immediately exploited by the anti-virus software writers, but not by the big Unix/Linux vendors.
If I was in IBM I would have a budget set aside to ramp up a scary campaign about this and every other big worm/exploit - I'd be buying the spots right now to go on the offensive.
Gentlemen, your opponent is drowning, so throw the son of a bitch an anvil.
You don't need to be Kreskin to see that Embedded Linux is not dying.
No, it's not. But it's not the next big thing either.
There's just too much bloat - the kernel itself is probably bigger than most embedded applications.
But it will have its uses and if anyone wants to experiment with embedded Linux, they could do worse than use a Dreamcast.
I have never bought ELJ but it is a pity its is going - not least because it means the quality of material online will suffer too (as there will be .
It's great being in a community and all, but the lack of commercial discipline does mean some online documentation is a little on the ropey side.
If you print rubbish in a magazine then nobody buys it. If you put it in an online site i's just a mistake.
The only thing you need release is the kernel changes.
This is a GPL fallacy. You don't have to "release" anything. You simply have to supply the code to (or more accurately make it available to) anyone you distribute the application to.
For a consumer device that is obviously as nearly identical to "releasing" as it is possible to get, but it does not mean that for smaller scale more specialised operations of the sort you might encounter in some areas of embedded development.
I think Stallman would expect you to release the code to anyone who asked - after all he is supposed to have become obsessed by software freedom because of an incident where someone woiuldn't let him have some code they were using (as opposed to distributing) - but that isn't what the GPL mandates you to do.
And quite right too - otherwise it would be a code snoopers' charter.