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April 1, 1972: Write Only Memory

Embedded Geek writes "While digging around Jack Ganssle's site, I came across an amusing prank from days gone by. In 1972 Signetics recognized April Fools day by printing a full color datasheet (scanned sheet 1 and sheet 2 here) for a Write-Only Memory (which accepts data but never reads it back), a considerable effort when documents were made via literal "cut and paste". Packed with jokes both obvious (a graph of "number of pins left versus number of insertions") and subtle ("Vdd = 0V +/- 2%") it's worth a chuckle."

233 comments

  1. Essential For... by geoffsmith · · Score: 4, Funny

    Writing perl code! Write once, read never.

    Websurfing done right! StumbleUpon

    1. Re:Essential For... by WWWWolf · · Score: 1

      No, the interpreter needs to read the code...

      Actually, I think most PCs already include this chip. The contents of the RAM get copied to it every time the programs crash. Should I tell the newbies where their unsaved Word docs went?

    2. Re:Essential For... by DarkHelmet · · Score: 4, Funny

      $what($are_you)->$talking("about") . "you" . $technophobe.
      @PERL."is"->$the_easiest->$language->$Eva r

      # As with all other perl code
      # I find documenting this unnecessary

      --
      /^[A-Z0-9._%+-]+@[A-Z0-9.-]+\.[A-Z]{2,4}$/i
    3. Re:Essential For... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What would the syntax for that be in perl6?

    4. Re:Essential For... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I rather think it should be for storing APL code - it there was ever a write-only language, that was it. Don't get me wrong - it was a great language, and I found it very interesting, and quite powerful for some things, but trying to read someone else's code was, um, a challenge!

    5. Re:Essential For... by orkysoft · · Score: 1

      You're overdoing it with the funny characters. A more correct variation would be:

      $what{are_you} = &talking("about") . $you->technophobe ?
      qw/Perl/: $the->{easiest}{language}{ever};

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      I suffer from attention surplus disorder.
  2. shhhs... by DanThe1Man · · Score: 2, Funny

    I thought I just had to avoid reading slashdot one day a year to avoid April Fools crap.

    1. Re:shhhs... by gazbo · · Score: 2, Funny

      Aye. But don't worry, It's one of the most linked to April Fools, and from the seventies, so there is no chance that we haven't heard of it before.

    2. Re:shhhs... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm laughing my socks off
      .....(not)

      Yawn

    3. Re:shhhs... by DanThe1Man · · Score: 2

      ohhh, the old "not!" comment. Well, sir of the great 1989, I commend you on pointing out my lame statement and hope it didn't keep you from rewatching your 'Whanes World' video cassette over again for the 314th time.

  3. Possible Application by clifforch · · Score: 1

    I bet there's some cypto/privacy types out there who think this is still a good idea

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  4. Holy cow by ObviousGuy · · Score: 2, Funny

    You people ARE nerds! Jebus. I thought everyone was just faking it!

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    1. Re:Holy cow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Nice, quoting from Simpsons? And you are not a dork either? Quoth from the Comic Book Guy: "You laugh at me, oh that is rich!"

    2. Re:Holy cow by ObviousGuy · · Score: 1

      Interesting. I didn't see that episode. How close was I to the actual quote? Got a link for comparison?

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    3. Re:Holy cow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      here ya go, right under J-E-B-U-S

      http://www.dailywonklists.com/FAQ.htm

  5. I want to know... by kpansky · · Score: 1

    more about their fabrication process. Their "unique SEX process" intriques me...

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    1. Re:I want to know... by RatOmeter · · Score: 2

      Did you see the "SEX[7]" note at the bottom of page 1? it says "[7] You have a dirty mind..."

      If I recall correctly, both Signetics and National Semiconductor managed to sneak a few bogus datasheets into their released databooks from time to time. I first saw of this particular one a couple three years ago; I think someone posted a link to it on sci.electronics.design or a similar newsgroup.

  6. Lost memory by MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM · · Score: 0

    Where were you on April 1, 1972?

    I don't remember.

    1. Re:Lost memory by alapalaya · · Score: 1

      Where were you on April 1, 1972?
      I don't remember.


      actually, it should be "I know, but I can't tell you"

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      667 The Neighbour of the Beast
    2. Re:Lost memory by Quazion · · Score: 2

      I wasn't born yet, i do remember :)

    3. Re:Lost memory by muzzmac · · Score: 1

      Where was I in April 1, 1972?

      I think I was a potato in North Queensland...
      somewhere...

    4. Re:Lost memory by Frying+Ferret · · Score: 2, Funny

      Umm wouldn't 668 be the next door to the beast seeing as 667 would across the street?

    5. Re:Lost memory by CityZen · · Score: 1

      Maybe it's an apartment number and not a street address. Or perhaps they live on a circle (or other construction with houses only on one side).

    6. Re:Lost memory by cpmte · · Score: 1

      even if it was across the street it would still be a neighbor

  7. This is perfect for my project. by seanadams.com · · Score: 5, Funny

    I get a lot of spam, so I've been working on a hardware accelleration card for /dev/null. This'll save me having to develop my own design in an expensive FPGA.

    1. Re:This is perfect for my project. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But wouldn't it be slower to write to WOM than to copy stuff in RAM and eventually discard it?

      And, besides, this is from 1972. I'm not sure if this particular WOM is a true WOM (data get stored, but can't be read), or is it a "fake" optimized WOM (data never gets stored, because it can't be read, either). In first case, the memory will eventually fill - which isn't good from /dev/null acceleration point of view. (Ever seen Unable to write to /dev/null: Not enough space on device in so-called normal conditions? I thought so...)

      Sorry, I'm not a hardware person or expert of memory or how things work in OS, this may be incorrect =)

    2. Re:This is perfect for my project. by Scanline · · Score: 1

      It's write only, not write once, so it can be rewritten.

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      I just don't know when to quit."
      - Rei
    3. Re:This is perfect for my project. by Hellkitten · · Score: 2, Funny

      a true WOM (data get stored, but can't be read), or is it a "fake" optimized WOM (data never gets stored,

      Interesting point. So to be true Write Only Memory the data has to be there, but impossible to read.

      My proposal for a true WOM with infinite storage capacity: A poverful laser poining into space, turn the laser on and off to encode 1 and 0. With enough power and careful aim to not hit a black hole or anything the data will be there forever, but nobody will be able to read it back

      Potential problem are: If faster than light travel becomes available we could race past the beam and read the data. Aliens could read the data if they fly into the beam. Even in space the beam could hit a few atoms, and the light could be 'reflected' back at earth and read

      And in case anyone wonders: Yes I'm a nerd, and thyis stuff matters.

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    4. Re:This is perfect for my project. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You could remove all those reading problems by cryptating the data with a one way encryption scheme. Like adding a random number to every data sent.

      Only problem I see (except for broken beams) is that it does not allow random access writing. You're limited to sequential writing.

    5. Re:This is perfect for my project. by Hellkitten · · Score: 1

      ryptating the data with a one way encryption schem

      Encryption in itself does not prevent reading of any data, only understanding of the it. We still need to ensure that the encrypted data cannot be read

      it does not allow random access writing.

      We're talkin about WOM (Write only Memory) here not RAWOM (Random Access Write Only Memory)

      But still: How about preceeding every byte written to the laser with its memory address. Then you'll have random access with a complete history of the state of the data since the first write. With a little careful encoding of the data to indicate where the memory address ends and the data starts we will still have an infinite address space to store our data in

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    6. Re:This is perfect for my project. by phil+reed · · Score: 4, Interesting
      I get a lot of spam, so I've been working on a hardware accelleration card for /dev/null.


      Many years ago, I used to go to DEC Users Group meetings. In the evenings, we'd have "sessions" where the operating system developers would come around and tell war stories. I remember one time that one of the RSX-11 (one of the PDP-11 operating systems) developers was telling us that writes to the Null device (NUL:) was found to be considerable slower than writes to real hardware. Therefore, they had begun development of a null hardware device to be plugged into the system. It was to be called the NUL-11 board, and they had developed quite a bit of specification material for it, unfortunately lost (this was in the early '80s). Very fun stuff.

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      ...phil
      "For a list of the ways which technology has failed to improve our quality of life, press 3."
    7. Re:This is perfect for my project. by DDRP · · Score: 1

      What if the alien already had your random number sequence? They could subtract the numbers from every byte. You had better make sure it's a secure random number generator! Presumably though, if you're only sending spam to /dev/null you'll be alright. They will think humans have small penii which need enlarging and won't come down here and rape us all.

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    8. Re:This is perfect for my project. by Tackhead · · Score: 2
      > What if the alien already had your random number sequence? They could subtract the numbers from every byte. You had better make sure it's a secure random number generator! Presumably though, if you're only sending spam to /dev/null you'll be alright.

      That's what the FPGA-accelerated /dev/null is for.

      It's a cover story for a faster random number generator.

      Any mathematician will tell you that if the alien has a sufficiently large string of random numbers, or even enough digits of pi, he does have your random number sequence.

      You just have to make sure you can build your strings of random numbers faster than he can.

      Random-numbers-arms-race, anyone? :)

    9. Re:This is perfect for my project. by orkysoft · · Score: 1

      Imagine a Beowulf cluster of d256's :-)

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  8. Just what the MPAA and RIAA ordered by Brynath · · Score: 5, Funny

    Something they can sell that has Perfect Copy Protection!

    1. Re:Just what the MPAA and RIAA ordered by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Arg... You beat me to it

    2. Re:Just what the MPAA and RIAA ordered by cnock · · Score: 1

      Technically, this wouldn't solve the MPAA's problem. I'd still be able to make numerous "illegal" copies. (Sure I couldn't listen to them, but they would still be copies that the did not make any money for big corporations.)

    3. Re:Just what the MPAA and RIAA ordered by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...now how could you possibly copy something without being able to read it, first?
      Isn't being able to know what you're going to write essential for making a copy?

  9. There are a few applications for write-only memory by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There are circuits in use that are essentially a write-only memory like this (but without the need for a 6 foot fan!), combined with a comparator and possibly a one-way encrypter. You can store an encrypted password in there, which then can never be read back in its encrypted form. Plaintext phrases can be encrypted and compared against the stored password.

    One existing application is on debit cards (cards that are charged with a cash amount on the card itself).

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  10. In the Jargon Lexicon by Raedwald · · Score: 5, Informative

    This has been in The Jargon Lexicon for ages. Don't all slashdotters know of it?

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    1. Re:In the Jargon Lexicon by octalman · · Score: 1

      Byte Magazine also featured a Write Only Memory in one of their April issues. A wooden block with wires attached :-))

    2. Re:In the Jargon Lexicon by tswinzig · · Score: 5, Funny

      This has been in The Jargon Lexicon [tuxedo.org] for ages. Don't all slashdotters know of it?

      I must have missed the part on this site where it says, "YOU MUST READ THE ENTIRE JARGON LEXICON BEFORE READING SLASHDOT."

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    3. Re:In the Jargon Lexicon by HermDog · · Score: 2, Funny

      Shocking oversight. Here, I'll fix it:

      You must read the ENTIRE jargon lexicon before reading Slashdot

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      JADBP
    4. Re:In the Jargon Lexicon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Naturally, we've all heard about WOM, but this data sheet allows me to second source the part for my company's next product.

    5. Re:In the Jargon Lexicon by JabberWokky · · Score: 2
      I must have missed the part on this site where it says, "YOU MUST READ THE ENTIRE JARGON LEXICON BEFORE READING SLASHDOT."

      Actually, since the published versions of the Jargon file are called the Hacker's Dictionary (the latest being the New Hacker's Dictionary), a dictionary is a compendium of language common to a group, and the Slashdot readership are hackers, for the given definition of hacker in the dictionary, then the Dictionary *is* required reading - or at least reference.

      Sort of like how knowing english for www.slashdot.org or knowing japanese for www.slashdot.jp are requirements.

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    6. Re:In the Jargon Lexicon by majcher · · Score: 3, Funny

      I must have missed the part on this site where it says, "YOU MUST READ THE ENTIRE JARGON LEXICON BEFORE READING SLASHDOT."

      Even if us lowly posters haven't (although you should), it would be nice if our nerd-overlord editors who put the story on the front page have given the jargon file a quick skim.

      "Breaking news on Slashdot! Some programmers use funny words like 'foo' and 'bar' in their code, instead of *real* variable names!"

      zzzzzzz....

    7. Re:In the Jargon Lexicon by tswinzig · · Score: 1

      You know how to write English. Have you ever read an entire dictionary?

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    8. Re:In the Jargon Lexicon by JabberWokky · · Score: 2
      You know how to write English. Have you ever read an entire dictionary?

      Yup. That's basic schooling, my friend, at least in the schools I went to. I also had to learn the fundimentals of latin and greek. Reading the encyclopedia (finished the World Book, easy reading, and got 2/3rd of the way through the Britannica) was my idea.

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    9. Re:In the Jargon Lexicon by dillon_rinker · · Score: 2

      fundimentals

      latin

      greek

      What schools did you go to? =)

      IHBT. IHL. HAND.

    10. Re:In the Jargon Lexicon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think he meant that this is publicly documented and many people consider it common knowlege. In any case something this old and trivial is certainly not news.

    11. Re:In the Jargon Lexicon by Nahor · · Score: 1

      I think it is written in one of the Write-Only-Memory... *sigh* sorry, but I can't find it anymore, I get some kind of "permission denied" error when I try.

  11. Here's a mirror by ollie_ob · · Score: 1

    I stronly suspect the main site is going to die, so here's a mirror on my website:

    Pic 1 Pic 2

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    #define ROSE any_other_name
    1. Re:Here's a mirror by ollie_ob · · Score: 1, Informative

      Yuck, don't know how that rogue character got there - I'll try again: Pic 1 and Pic 2.

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      #define ROSE any_other_name
  12. Write only memory? by vidnet · · Score: 5, Funny

    You mean like the windows registry?

    Crap goes in, but doesn't seem to go out until you have to reinstall a month later :)

    1. Re:Write only memory? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      An obvious troll. Of course, moderated up for good humour on Slashdot; home of the common Linux/Anti-MS zealot.

    2. Re:Write only memory? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      More like /dev/null. You can read the registry, but it's like reading a trashy novel. Bad form, and exceptionally bad substance.

    3. Re:Write only memory? by Tackhead · · Score: 2
      > You mean like the windows registry?
      >
      > Crap goes in, but doesn't seem to go out until you have to reinstall a month later :)

      Or the abuse department at any Chinese ISP, the difference being that crap comes out.

  13. Re:wow by Ted+Maul · · Score: 4, Funny

    First posts are write only.

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  14. 'Read protection' by Ed+Avis · · Score: 4, Informative

    On the BBC Micro you could add 16Kbyte banks of 'sideways RAM'. I remember that some upgrades had a 'read protect' switch, which sounded very odd. I think it was for compatibility; read protect made the upgrade effectively invisible.

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    1. Re:'Read protection' by FrostedWheat · · Score: 1

      The Commodore 64 has something similar. It had 64k, but not all of it was readable because of the ROM chips. You could write data there, but when you tried to read you'd only get the ROM data. You could disable the ROM's and read the data you put there before.

      Nifty idea when memory was so limited!

    2. Re:'Read protection' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      Usually they had write protect for scanning pirated ROMs normally paged on the BBC (some ROMs tried to write to themselves to make sure they weren't pirated!). As for the read protect, some software was so badly written that when some ROMs (or RAM images) were installed, the software crashed the box.

      .vortex

    3. Re:'Read protection' by BdosError · · Score: 2, Interesting

      And that led to a bunch of weird (to the uninitiated) code like:
      for i=49152 to 51200: poke i, peek(i):next i

      But if you wanted to turn of the ROMs to use the underlying stuff in RAM, this is what you had to do, if you wanted access to some of that ROMs code. Weird, but interesting.

      Ah the creativity of limited resources.

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      Complexity is Easy. Simplicity is Hard.
    4. Re:'Read protection' by Ed+Avis · · Score: 2

      It's not because of limited memory but limited address space. The switching between ROMs and RAM needs to happen because there is more than 64Kbyte of total (ROM+RAM) memory in the system, but the 6502 processor has only 16-bit addressing. If memory had been a bit more limited, there wouldn't have been any need for these tricks :-P.

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  15. Advances in cooling by rhysweatherley · · Score: 5, Funny
    It took Intel 30 years to acheive a chip that has the same cooling requirements:
    The 25120 is easily cooled by employment of a six-foot fan, 1/2" from the package. If the device fails, you have exceeded the ratings. In such cases, more air is recommended.
    Signetics were way ahead of their time.
    1. Re:Advances in cooling by olympus_coder · · Score: 1

      And of course, AMD beat them to the punch requiring the 6' fan 2 years earlier...

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  16. Mirror by Florian+Weimer · · Score: 1, Redundant

    In case the site is slashdotted, you can get the images from there and there.

  17. ROFL write only by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    *nerd laugh* haha write only, everyone knows that write only memeory is like a bank acount where you know you put in money and they give you a million percent interest but you can never withdraw money. its ironic

  18. Re:There are a few applications for write-only mem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If the memory is compared to something, then it is read back.....

    So it would NOT be a write-only-memory...

  19. Ahead of their time by xxSOUL_EATERxx · · Score: 1
    Form this sheet: "...the 25120 will obtain 50% higher speed than you will obtain..."the 25120 is easily cooled by a six foot fan, 1/2" from the package..."

    So, they had overclockers back in 1972? Nothing new under the sun, I guess...

  20. How's this for speed? by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 2, Funny

    "The 25120 will provide 50% higher speed than you will obtain".

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  21. Re:There are a few applications for write-only mem by flipflapflopflup · · Score: 1
    > Plaintext phrases can be encrypted and compared against the stored password.

    Explain again how you read from this write-only memory then?

  22. I have only read only memory by jukal · · Score: 1

    therefor, the message content is: void.

  23. Aren't we about... by ankit · · Score: 1

    ... 30 years too late for this?

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  24. Huh? by jnievele · · Score: 3, Funny

    I didn't know that DAT backup tapes were invented in 1972... ;-)

  25. There is write only memory by mumblestheclown · · Score: 1

    As far as the computer and it's memory hierarchy is concerned, there IS write only memory. The printer, for example, in the absence of a scanner, is just this, as could be certain video displays.

    1. Re:There is write only memory by plarsen · · Score: 1

      If a printer prints a write only document, how could you know if the printer works? I mean, if you in no way whould be able to read what it has printed?

    2. Re:There is write only memory by IIRCAFAIKIANAL · · Score: 1

      Data can be read from a printer or monitor - think "Plug n' Play" :)

      The only true write-only portion of a PC/circuit I can think of is GND

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    3. Re:There is write only memory by rbook · · Score: 1

      Not at all! I can read the data sent to the printer, without any additional hardware at all!

      (It hurts a littel without my reading glasses, though. ;-)

  26. Re:There are a few applications for write-only mem by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 0

    The data is compared against the memory inside the IC device. From outside the device the memory can be written to, but the data cannot be read back so it is write-only for all intends and purposes (one could possibly drill into the IC package and get at the memory).

    I believe the more common term for this is a black box, but I've heard such device being referred to as having write-only memory.

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  27. Latex slip-ons!!! by pawlie · · Score: 3, Funny

    Brilliant: slip-on latex protectors for preventage of VD!! (Voltage Destruction) Pill packaged devices do not require protection!

  28. Favorite WOM feature by octalman · · Score: 3, Funny

    My favorite feature of this device is that typical bit capacity is 35% to 75% of "guaranteed" bit capacity.

    1. Re:Favorite WOM feature by phil+reed · · Score: 1

      Actually, the Iff/Vff chart is pretty funny. For you non-EE types - Vff is the voltage for the filaments, Iff is the current for the filaments. What the chart shows is a stady rise in current as you turn up the voltage, until you get to about 17 volts or so. At that point the filaments burn out and current plunges to zero.

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      ...phil
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    2. Re:Favorite WOM feature by Meleschi · · Score: 1

      >>I'M an Electrical Engineer, and I didn't know what the heck Vff was!!!

      Of course, I went to college in the late 1990's.. :)

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    3. Re:Favorite WOM feature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can you get better performance by editing the WOM.BAT file?

  29. Write many, read never... by MadFarmAnimalz · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'd rather thought that /dev/null was the most elegant WOM out there...

    Heck, they even coded it such that it has infinite capacity, or a very high capacity in any case.

    Could someone dedicate a machine for a few years with a shell script running an infinite loop writing data to /dev/null? I personally think it's about time we found out how much you can stash in there.

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    1. Re:Write many, read never... by Muad'Dave · · Score: 2
      I personally think it's about time we found out how much you can stash in there.

      Do you think /dev/null is a /dev of holding? Will the data all disappear when it reaches capacity?

      Speaking of 'of holding', one of the funniest references I recall was on the Twin Peaks mailing list way back when. Someone pointed out that a Laura said she kept some casette tapes in her bedpost, but that her bedpost was too small. The author suggested that she must have 'a bedpost of holding'.

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    2. Re:Write many, read never... by rtaylor · · Score: 2

      Make dev/null an append only file someday and just see all the wonderful information being collected.

      There really is a ton of stuff. Append only to prevent that cronjob from wiping it out when it only has > instead of >>.

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    3. Re:Write many, read never... by hey! · · Score: 2

      Ever have /dev/null deleted by accident? Interesting things happen, and it's not easy to track down.

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    4. Re:Write many, read never... by MadFarmAnimalz · · Score: 2

      I'm flabbergasted that the parent is at +4 _insightful_ as I type this... C'mon people, an infinite loop writing to /dev/null to see how much you can cram in there?

      :-) Oh well, it's your party :-)

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    5. Re:Write many, read never... by cybermage · · Score: 2

      Ever have /dev/null deleted by accident? Interesting things happen, and it's not easy to track down.

      Actually, yes. While running an ISP back in 1996, I had a support tech who managed to overwrite /dev/null on a UnixWare box without root access.

      All I can say is thank God he realized he did it. I can't even begin to guess how long it would have taken me to find it.

      We never did figure out how he managed to do that and could not duplicate the problem after we fixed it. I think we gave him a raise.

      The incident even inspired us to start a contest for our support techs. We offered a cash prize to the first one who could root our shell server. The only restriction was that they weren't allowed to access console or sniff packets. Sadly, no one collected the prize, although one managed a nearly perfect forgery of an email from root (an actual email from root was their goal.)

    6. Re:Write many, read never... by cant_get_a_good_nick · · Score: 1

      Run:
      cat /dev/zero | /dev/null

      and see your kernel CPU usage go to 98% or something. The things I do when I get bored.

    7. Re:Write many, read never... by topham · · Score: 2

      An ex-coworker of mine deleted the parent directory while in a subdirectory of said-parent. (under a version of SCO).

      Boom.
      System stayed running for about 5 seconds and then crashed hard. couldn't duplicate the problem.

    8. Re:Write many, read never... by topham · · Score: 2


      In Dos 5 you couldn't send more than 32megabytes to \dev\null, it would crash.

  30. LASAGNA! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lasagna! Pookie

    by Losh

    "Garfield, dinner!"

    Garfield snuggled deeper in his box and mumbled, "Gravity is in effect here. Bring it to me."

    "It's lasagna"

    *Zooooooommmmmm*

    Jon looked down at the table where just a second ago a pan of lasagna had sat. "Well at least I served myself first..." He broke off at the site of his empty plate, then yelled. "Garfield! That was my dinner too!"

    Garfield smirked and called out, "Pizza delivery number is by the phone. I'll take a large meat-lovers Jon." He set the pan of lasagna down, then reached over and flipped his blanket out his box, uncovering his best friend. "Pookie, look what I have for dinner. Your pizza's gonna be here soon, I had Jon order you a large meat-lovers. What? You can't eat the entire thing by yourself and you insist on sharing it with me? You're such a good friend."

    He grinned at Pookie and reached into the pan of lasagna and scooped up a pawful. "You don't mind if I start without you? Thanks!" He reached over and hugged Pookie in thanks, accidentally getting him covered in lasagna. "Pookie! I told you, your pizza would be here soon. You didn't have to start eating my dinner."

    Garfield licked his paw clean while he eyed the cheese, meat and pasta covered bear. "You know, that's a good look for you. It brings out the black in your button eyes and the tomato sauce compliments the thread in your mouth. Pookie..." He paused for a minute and reached out with the paw that still had lasagna on it and brushed it against Pookie's nose. "Gasp. Oh no. Pookie, I got lasagna on your nose. I'm a bad bad cat." Garfield cocked his head to one side, "What? You want me to clean it off? Well if you insist. Besides, lasagna should never be wasted."

    He took a step forward until he was nose to nose with Pookie. He flicked his tongue lightly several times over Pookie's nose, until it was free of lasagna bits. When he finished, he sat back on his haunches, "Mmmmm you taste good, Pookie. What? You want me to clean the rest of you off too?" He grinned a Cheshire grin. "I'd love too." He stretched out a paw, pulled Pookie to him and purred, "Have I ever told you how much I love lasagna?" He continued to purr as he began to lick Pookie's neck and then down his chest, his rough tongue causing the bear's fur to stand up in tufts. When he reached Pookie's waist he stopped and stared at the area he just finished cleaning. He reached out and stroked a paw down Pookie's chest, his claws half out, leaving thin, slight trails in the bears fur. "You should bathe in tomato sauce from now on. It's made your fur soooo soft."

    Again he brushed his paw down Pookie's chest. He watched as the fur sprang back up after his paw passed. A gleam entered his eyes as he stared at Pookie. His nose twitched and his tail rose straight up in the air. He looked up and gazed into the bear's cute button eyes, "Isn't it amazing the places tomato sauce can get into?" he asked mischievously. Not waiting for a response, Garfield stood again and licked Pookie on his nose then slowly licked a line down the clean furry chest of the bear, this time not stopping at its waist. Purring loudly, he licked between the bear's short, furry legs. The tip of his tail was twitching like crazy as he pressed his nose against Pookie's belly. He continued to lick long strokes between the bears legs.

    Garfield's breathing quickened and the tip of his tail flicked this way and that way. Suddenly he pulled back from Pookie and looked into his dark button eyes. He paused, then nodded once, firmly. He pounced on top of the bear and started humping it as he licked and nipped at its neck. Finally with a last twitch of his tail and thrust of his hind end, Garfield stilled then collapsed on top of Pookie.

    Still purring, Garfield rolled off Pookie and onto his side. He reached out with a paw and swatted a bit of fur from one of Pookie's button eyes, then laid his head on Pookie's shoulder. "That had to be the best lasagna I've ever had," he said contentedly.

    ~Fin~

  31. Later that day... by robolemon · · Score: 3, Funny
    After writing up the paper and printing it in color (back in the day before cheap color printing), the Signetics engineers retire to the local bar.

    After laughing it up for a bit, their boss walks in. He is visibly angry.

    Boss: "Miller! Wilson! Did you waste our money again? I found the Write-Only Memory specs! That's it! The six-foot fan was one thing, but now you guys have crossed the line. How are you going to explain yourselves?"

    Miller: (angrily to Wilson) "I thought you said he wouldn't be able to read it!"

    Slashdot Readers: (groan)

    --

    I design user interfaces for a free network management application,

    1. Re:Later that day... by netsharc · · Score: 1
      What really happened with management was funnier than that. To quote out of the Jargon book


      Out of frustration with the long and seemingly useless
      chain of approvals required of component specifications, during
      which no actual checking seemed to occur, an engineer at Signetics
      once created a specification for a write-only memory and included it
      with a bunch of other specifications to be approved. This inclusion
      came to the attention of Signetics {management} only when regular
      customers started calling and asking for pricing information.
      Signetics published a corrected edition of the data book and
      requested the return of the `erroneous' ones. Later, around 1974,
      Signetics bought a double-page spread in "Electronics" magazine's
      April issue and used the spec as an April Fools' Day joke.
      --
      What time is it/will be over there? Check with my iPhone app!
  32. Re:There are a few applications for write-only mem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Read and Write in memory terms define what the user/programmer can do with it, not what a program itself can do. Hence write only memory can only be accessed blindly by the system, but you can't directly access the data it contains.

  33. Re:wow by malkman · · Score: 5, Funny

    The real question is, why would someone make a first post in the first place?

    However, through the use of simple mathematics I've deducted a formula that explains this habit-
    sP + aF / P = Need of being the first poster
    You see, the persons small penis (sP) factor is added to his annoyance factor (aF) and divided by any real personality this poster may have (P), creates the probability of having a first post, as well as the need to be the first poster.
    Therefore, the average first poster believes that by being the first poster, he will enlarge his penis size. Unfortunately, this is most opposite of what *really* occurs.
    fP = P / sP - wFOP = First poster's penis size.
    As you can see, the first post has the effect of actually *shrinking* his penis, as the personality factor is divided by his existing small penis, minus an additional amount based on the annoyance factor of the first post itself. So, in reality, these people are causing long-lasting damaging effects to their genitals.

    And to answer your question, no, I DON'T have anything better to do than post nonsensical, offtopic garbage on a message board.

    --

    Robort knows all.
  34. cut & paste- a considerable effort? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    While it was a significantly harder to create documents by hand back then compared to computerized layout today, it really isn't something that deserves commendation. This was done often into the 80s, and many small layout design shops still do this today.

  35. Re:There are a few applications for write-only mem by plarsen · · Score: 1

    No, a write only memory is a "dead end" device. You have no use for it at all. If there is no feedback (read possibility) and then -> "the more common term" for it is a "terminator" which destroys all inputs, since there is no way of getting that info back, and use it for anything.

  36. Re:There are a few applications for write-only mem by rm+-vrf · · Score: 1

    Still. You input your password and the black box compares it with
    the internal password. Letting you know the results of the comparison
    contradicts the assumption that the device is write-only (by reading
    at least one bit of information). That's what he was saying.

  37. Re:There are a few applications for write-only mem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That you've heard a black-box device referred to as a write-only-memory doesn't make it true....

    Reading back the results of the comparison is a 'read', so the argument fails there.

    Also, a device containing two major functions, like memory and comparator, is not a memory device (that would be like calling a SDRAM an 'adder' or a CPU a memory device)....

  38. Still don't get it? by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 0

    You cannot get the info back, but you can use it for something or get feedback on it. The feedback is not the actual data, but comes in the form of "the data currently on the bus matches / doesn't match what I have stored internally"

    --
    If construction was anything like programming, an incorrectly fitted lock would bring down the entire building...
    1. Re:Still don't get it? by plarsen · · Score: 1

      If you're able to receive feedback from it then it's not write-only. It doesn't matter if the feedback comes in the form "a match with current data" or if it feedbacks the data itself, it still isn't write only.

    2. Re:Still don't get it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I strongly suggest you read Shannon's book on Information Theory. When you understand it you will understand the contradictions you propose.

    3. Re:Still don't get it? by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 1
      The feedback is not the actual data, but comes in the form of "the data currently on the bus matches / doesn't match what I have stored internally"

      So I can test each bit to see if it matches 1? Not so write-only, then.

  39. Amiga 1000 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Amiga 1000 had 'Write Once Memory'. When the kickstart disk (kernel/bios) was loaded in WOM then it got locked. This was done because when the A1000 shipped in september 1985 the firmware was not quite ready...

  40. My favorite quote.. in 'Special Features' by forged · · Score: 2
    • Special features

      Because of the employment of the signetics' proprietary Sanderson-Rabbet Channel the 25120 will provide 50% higher speed than you will obtain.

    Err .. mmmkay ??!?!?

    1. Re:My favorite quote.. in 'Special Features' by Joutsa · · Score: 1

      They were ahead of time, again. Nowadays most processor manyfacturers announce some number of MIPS that is lots more than any practical code will ever obtain.

  41. C64 had this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I remember the C64 had a bank of memory that you could write to, but if you tried reading it back you'd get junk values. I believe it was the sound poking interface.

  42. Essential for Microsoft by 00_NOP · · Score: 1

    Imagine if this stuff was placed in Wintel machines - that old buffer over run problem was disappear overnight.

    Sounds like a real Linux killer to me.

    1. Re:Essential for Microsoft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, the carppy programs from MS would still try to write too much data past the end/beginning of the buffers.

  43. WOW! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now THIS is geek with a capital G. After reading it all, i still dont have a clue what its about. Great!

  44. The original Bill Gates Quote: by Bazman · · Score: 4, Funny

    "640k of Write-Only Memory ought to be enough for anybody".

    Baz

    1. Re:The original Bill Gates Quote: by AndrewRUK · · Score: 1

      That much, eh?
      I only need a single bit of EWOM ;-)

  45. many companies have done this... by Lumpy · · Score: 2

    I remember a datasheet from Phillips on the DED.(Dark Emitting Diode) and a Texas instruments publication on a spec for the FUDGE gate.

    It isnt new, but that one is obviousally old enough to possibly be the first....

    --
    Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
    1. Re:many companies have done this... by apuku · · Score: 1

      I always liked the NED (Noise Emitting Diode) ... it only worked once

      And there was the quad DONT gate

      --
      Look, it's trying to think - Albert Rosenfield
    2. Re:many companies have done this... by phil+reed · · Score: 1

      I have a picture somewhere of a Flame-emitting Diode (an LED stuck into the business end of a candle and set alight).

      --

      ...phil
      "For a list of the ways which technology has failed to improve our quality of life, press 3."
    3. Re:many companies have done this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What about a SED (Smoke-Emitting Diode) or a LER (Light-Emitting Resistor)? Those are really just names of a diode or resistor with too much power going through them.

    4. Re:many companies have done this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I recall one of my college professors claimed to have developed the LEPROM (light-emitting PROM) when he plugged an EPROM in backwards. The brief flash was visible through the UV erasure window.

    5. Re:many companies have done this... by paulio · · Score: 1

      The first time I saw this was in Byte in the early 80s.

      from http://www.netfunny.com/rhf/jokes/88q1/8972.html

      Noise Emitting Diode (NED)
      When connected across a 1000 volt supply it makes a loud noise (once). The NED was discovered by Igor Pravaganda whom you'll recall worked many years trying to filter AC with electrolytics. He'll always be remembered as the father of the confetti generator.

  46. Re:There are a few applications for write-only mem by Lumpy · · Score: 2

    but you are wrong.... cash cards/chips CAN be read. you have to know how much is left on it. and a password storage as you say ALSO can be read as you have to have an indication if the match was positive.

    so in fact if you get ANYTHING out of a device it does in fact have a read capability.

    --
    Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
  47. Now I really do feel old ... by Pogue+Mahone · · Score: 3, Funny
    I remember this one when it first appeared. Does that make me "venerable"?

    On a similar line, somewhere at home I have a spoof datasheet from Nominal Semidestructors giving information about the new Polish Operational Amplifier.

    What I'm missing, however, is my copy of the table of variation of pi with temperature and pressure, which I believe was given to all engineering freshmen at Cambridge at one time. If anyone can help me to locate a new copy I'd be grateful. Please reply here or email me (see homepage).

    --
    Every bloody emperor has his hand up history's skirt [Peter Hammill/VdGG]
    1. Re:Now I really do feel old ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd love to find some of the old back issues of Creative Computing somewhere... they used to have lots of this kind of stuff...

    2. Re:Now I really do feel old ... by stevel · · Score: 1

      I am so glad that this was uncovered - I remember it fondly from my college days....

    3. Re:Now I really do feel old ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I too remember it.
      But, my favorite - and most amusing memory of the WOM was the release announcement in EDN (I think that's where it was). They included a picture of the packaging - it bore an amazing resemblance to one of the local 12-legged water towers, (which looked gike a gargantuan version of some of the early memory packages.)

    4. Re:Now I really do feel old ... by Hawat · · Score: 1

      I remember it too, and not only that, I've got a copy of the 5 page press release that went with the 2 pages posted.

      Excerpt:
      "Incidentally, we are now at work on a follow-on product -- a WOM buffer, known as WOMB, which we expect will be pregnant with possibilities."

  48. better than MOOT by oliverthered · · Score: 1

    This would be a usefull tech for anti RIP protests, you could never turn over your PGP key if you can't read it back again

    --
    thank God the internet isn't a human right.
  49. I actually bought one of these... by darkov2 · · Score: 1

    ... still going today. Billions of writes latter, still hasn't dropped (returned) a single bit. They just don't make them like the ol' days.

  50. Orders? by Robert+Frazier · · Score: 1

    Did they get any orders for these? I think that we should be told.

    Best wishes,
    Bob

    1. Re:Orders? by phil+reed · · Score: 1

      The order tracking info was put into a mass storage system built from these very devices.

      --

      ...phil
      "For a list of the ways which technology has failed to improve our quality of life, press 3."
  51. Re:There are a few applications for write-only mem by Zocalo · · Score: 1
    There are indeed, everyone thinks it's a joke because of the April 1st article above, but they do indeed exist, although I've not seen an example on a debit card, I can seen how it could work.

    For the sceptics, yes there is an output, it's usually just a bit flag; yes or no, there is no way of reading the actual contents of the WOM. The setup I've seen is an IC, that presents to the outside world two write only blocks of memory, one permanantly stores a PIN, the other is used to input the user keyed PIN. The IC compares the two and sets a single bit output high or low depending upon whether the values match or not. The crux is, short of decoding the circuits within the IC, there is no way of retrieving the PIN from a stolen card - there os ready equivalent of /etc/passwd that can be easily read and bruteforced; it's more akin to a shadow password system for PINs.

    Physically threatening the owner of the PIN is another issue, or course. ;)

    --
    UNIX? They're not even circumcised! Savages!
  52. Hardware accelerated null devices by Andreas+Rueckert · · Score: 1

    The article reminded me of a C't article (April edition a couple of years ago) where they reviewed hardware accelerated null devices... :-)

  53. Voltages by Beta · · Score: 1

    My personal favorite is definitely the Vff rating (6.3V AC).
    For those (sane) individuals who don't build their own amplifiers, this is the voltage used in electronic tubes for the heater filaments.
    Come to think of it, this would also explain the need for a 6 inch cooling fan.

    1. Re:Voltages by Merlin42 · · Score: 1

      Actually it requires a 6 FOOT colling fan ... placed 1/2 inch from the package.

  54. Footnote 6... by markmoss · · Score: 4, Informative

    They even planned far ahead. In 1972, "VFF = 6.3VAC" was obvious in itself, but for you youngsters that don't know about vacuum tubes they added the footnote "6. For the filament heater, of course."

    Yes, it's now a very old joke, but it's been fun watching a new "generation" rediscover it every five years or so.

  55. BUGGER! by muzzmac · · Score: 1

    That will probably bugger up my patent. Damn prior art!

    1. Re:BUGGER! by julesh · · Score: 1

      Its never stopped anyone else...!

  56. Re:There are a few applications for write-only mem by dk.r*nger · · Score: 1

    You can still bruteforce..

    Bruteforcing /etc/passwd:
    1) generate possible password
    2) oneway encrypt
    3) compare
    4) rinse and repeat until cracked

    The write-only chip:
    1) generate possible PIN (looping 0000-9999)
    2) write to WOM
    3) read flag
    4) ...

    Even if you made the memory REALLY slow, like 3 seconds to a write, you'd still run through all 10000 combinations in a matter of 8,3 hours..

    - Ranger

  57. How do you know it's fake? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Can you prove that the product doesn't act as advertised?

    This could be a real product!

  58. The first RAM design by ultrasound · · Score: 0

    In a similar vein...

    The first random access memory was designed to read and write to random registers.

    This does away with the address bus, reducing the pin count and making programming much more exciting.

    1. Re:The first RAM design by ultrasound · · Score: 0

      Doh! _not_ "registers", "locations" - been working with PICs too much recently.

      Also I like the graphs of "Bit capacity vs Temperature", "Number of remaining pins vs Number of Socket Insertions", and the non-hermetic sealing technique that prevents the entrapment of harmful ions but allows the free exchange of friendly ones.

  59. Uhhhh yeah..... by Zerelli · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Ok this is about as geeky as geeky gets, but wheres the news?

  60. What about the Pseudoacoustic Infector? by RobKow · · Score: 1

    The Pseudoacoustic Infector from Rane allows you to add a little bit of "This" and "That" to your audio. It also has BOTH "Power" and "Glory" switches, and a complement of other interesting features, plus a number of in jokes. :)

    Another (newer) classic. I'm sure this WOM could be used in creating a digital version of the same.

  61. Brute-force, countermeasures and other measures by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 1

    You could make the chip lock out after three tries (which is what happens on the debit card), or stop accepting new data for a long time (1 day perhaps).

    I believe some Israeli guy cracked the Dutch debit card by sticking it in a microwave(!), briefly forcing logic states that normally should never occur, allowing him to get the data out of the memory.

    --
    If construction was anything like programming, an incorrectly fitted lock would bring down the entire building...
  62. MPAA is interested... by dinotrac · · Score: 2

    If this technology could be incorporated into a CD or DVD, all of their "piracy" concerns go away.

    Sure, there are some pesky customer satisfaction issues, but let's keep our priorities straight. OK?

  63. Funny, this seems familiar by wowbagger · · Score: 2

    I had used this very chip as an example of the problems of searching with Google in a prevous /. post - I was trying to find electronic forms of the datasheet, and was using it as an example of why I felt Google needed boolean searches.

    The really funny thing is, that while this created a bit of a message thread on /., I can find that thread with neither /.'s built-in search nor with Google.

    Making fake releases is a tradition many organizations (and /. ;>) follow - go read QST, for example. Why, I even heard Microsoft is getting into the act - they released a fake news release about focusing on security and reviewing their code, but I think they jumped the gun by a couple of months....

  64. Another write-only tech by ndogg · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yeah, my hand-writing is write-only, or so everyone tells me...

    --
    // file: mice.h
    #include "frickin_lasers.h"
  65. Re:There are a few applications for write-only mem by Zocalo · · Score: 2
    You are assuming a 4 digit numeric PIN and no detection of three repeated failures resulting in a timed lockout of 15 minutes, a la car radios. I've simplified things a bit and the card does more than this, but the technical details for the interested are upto 8 characters presented to the WOM and hashed prior to storage/comparison (ie. 64 bits; 2^64 permutations.) Plus the lockout. That equates to 2^64/12 hours to try every combination which is just a little more daunting.

    If you got hold of a card (and had the resources) you could still read and brute force the hash of course, or force a valid response at the appropriate point. However, that leaves the physical problem of reassembly of an IC with onboard EEPROM, and even if the card can still be made to fit into the readers it's probably going to be unreadable. All of which needs to be done before the card is cancelled. Quite an elegant solution for those "ultra-paranoid locations" really. ;)

    --
    UNIX? They're not even circumcised! Savages!
  66. post office by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Didn't the postal office start using these to speed delivery?

  67. Re:There are a few applications for write-only mem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    >You are assuming a 4 digit numeric PIN and no detection of three repeated failures resulting in a timed lockout of 15 minutes, a la car radios.

    The IC on a smart card isn't big enough to hold a charge for 15 minutes, AFAIK.

  68. Sutdnet Manual by nica · · Score: 1

    This is in the Art of Electronics Student Manual.

    This manual has lots of little delights. My favorite is Tess o'Bipolariville milking 1 mA of current to find the intrinsic emitter resistance of a transistor.

  69. JEDEC compliant? by Beliskner · · Score: 2

    I protest, this chip is obviously not JEDEC compliant and is therefore prone to silent failure. RMS and EFF ought to kick their asses.

    --
    A caveman dreams of being us, the incalculable power and riches. We dream of being Q, then what?
    1. Re:JEDEC compliant? by Beliskner · · Score: 1

      What are you talkin' about? The chip doesn't work, how can it possibly be JEDEC-compliant? You're stupid. Get a sense of humour asshole!

      --
      A caveman dreams of being us, the incalculable power and riches. We dream of being Q, then what?
    2. Re:JEDEC compliant? by Beliskner · · Score: 1

      Ooooops. Parent flame was supposed to be AC, dang hit the wrong button. Try to spice things up, and lose some karma, oh the tragedy of it all.

      --
      A caveman dreams of being us, the incalculable power and riches. We dream of being Q, then what?
    3. Re:JEDEC compliant? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      HAHA! What a sad twat... replying to his own posts. (And no this isn't the same guy)

  70. Signetics was not ALWAYS joking! by Leon+Yendor · · Score: 1

    I used to work with some wierd chips back in those days and whilst the "Oldtimer's Disease" is setting in, ISTR the Signetics 82S100 had a write only register.
    It wasn't an AFD joke, either. Go look!

    Anybody who was just a whippersnapper lab rat in those days care to verify?

    1. Re:Signetics was not ALWAYS joking! by Whispers_in_the_dark · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Write only registers are still around (at least they were when I was involved with embedded devices a couple of years ago). They are used to cause something to happen as output on the pins of the device that isn't very interesting for the host controller to read. For example, you could write all you wanted to the TX FIFO devices we used but you couldn't read the data (it was being clocked out as output). The only thing you COULD read from them as a microprocessor was whether the device was full or half-full (as our hardware was setup anyway). Once the device was full, you could still happily write data to the device but the data sure wasn't going anywhere.

      OTOH, I've never encounterd a write-only memory before. The Amiga had a write-once memory (kind-of silly really) but that's not the same.

      BTW: Great post C.T., it sure brought back a lot of memories digging through hardware specs. from my embedded days! : )

    2. Re:Signetics was not ALWAYS joking! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I am not mistaken, video hardware has write-only registers that are set with in/out to the IO ports.

      Lots of other stuff too, probably.

  71. So this is essentially the same as... by bigmouth_strikes · · Score: 2

    ... dev/null, in hardware ?

    --
    Oh, I can't help quoting you because everything that you said rings true
  72. OMG by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What a bunch of fricken nerds lol. This isn't even remotely funny lol. Love ya all though. :)

  73. In case anyone cares by overshoot · · Score: 3, Informative

    Friends who work at Philips (which bought Signetics years ago) tell me that the 25120 datasheet may be updated and reissued. Keep an eye out for it once Philips gets a usable website.

    --
    Lacking <sarcasm> tags, /. substitutes moderation as "Troll."
  74. There IS write only memory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Its called a memory-mapped register.

    I suppose you could say that some VRAM is write-only, but it would have to be read by the hardware, even if its unaccessible to the user.

    ;-)

  75. 1Z2Z vacumn tube by wa1hco · · Score: 2, Funny

    The data sheet for the 1Z2Z vacuum tube (circa 1966) contained items like a "urinated tungsten filament" and a monode structure (one less than diode), IIRC.

    If humor exists prior to the Google...can anyone laugh?

  76. Next week on /. by Diamon · · Score: 2

    Man discovers fire.

  77. An oldy but goodie by rnturn · · Score: 3, Funny

    I know people who have copies of that data sheet.

    Another one that was good for a laugh was the ``Damn Fast Op-Amp'' that appeared in a normal device catalog from one of the major electronics device manufacturers (like Signetics, Fairchild, National, or maybe even AMD -- I'm leaning toward the latter but I can't remember any more. Darned cobwebs.) I used to enjoy asking interns to look up some information for me in the catalog and wait to see if they noticed it. You could tell if they did from the laughter.

    Another one from the same time frame (1980-ish) was the announcement -- on official IBM product sheets -- of a Galactic Edition' of the VM/CP (or was it VM/CMS?) operating system. This included advanced features like the one that allowed users to create and destroy their own planetary systems and such.

    Oh those were the days. Bet you don't see stuff like this appearing in official company literature any more. Hell, there'd probably be someone suing the company after they'd been traumatized upon seeing such offensive material (like `damn') or claiming fraud when their personal solar system didn't appear.

    --
    CUR ALLOC 20195.....5804M
    1. Re:An oldy but goodie by wings · · Score: 1

      It was National. They had "Fast" and "Damn Fast" op amps. They started publishing those databooks in the late 70s and continued into the early 80s. I probably still have one of those databooks at home.

      I think they also cross listed those op-amps in their Audio handbook. I still have my '78 edition of that book. I consider it irreplacable.

    2. Re:An oldy but goodie by tdrury · · Score: 2
      Another one that was good for a laugh was the ``Damn Fast Op-Amp'' that appeared in a normal device catalog...
      That actually was not a joke. Those op-amp were damn fast. Seriously. They were an extension to the line of fast op-amps from (I believe) National Semiconductor.

      -tim
    3. Re:An oldy but goodie by rnturn · · Score: 2

      Geez, I hate to reply to my own post but here's a link to a page with the text of the fictional IBM operating system -> http://www.bixoft.nl/english/humor.htm. The product was an improvement over the virtual machine concept in which one could now have a virtual universe. You'll have to read it to appreciate it (or not).

      Later...

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    4. Re:An oldy but goodie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The "Damn Fast" amp is a real part. I beleive the part number is: LH0002C. The title on the spec sheet is amusing but it does accurately describe the functionality of the part.

    5. Re:An oldy but goodie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep. It was Nat Semi's part.

      Another of their more humorously named parts was the Fully Asychronous Receiver Transmitter (FART).

      The title didn't last long, but long enough for at least one run of data sheets to be printed.

  78. Re:There are a few applications for write-only mem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is not a write only memory as it is read when comparing the PINs. It is just integrated in a circuit.

    If you really want you can open up the IC and probe the lines to the memory and see what it is.

  79. I've seen 'em. by TheSHAD0W · · Score: 2

    Back in the days before memory came on SIMMs, a few shady PC hardware manufacturers included "write-only memory" on their motherboards. These devices made the system look like there was an impressive amount of memory on the motherboard, but in actuality they were just molded plastic with unconnected IC pins, filling the spots one would put real RAM chips.

    1. Re:I've seen 'em. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And they worked just fine, too.

  80. Re:There are a few applications for write-only mem by Zocalo · · Score: 2

    On board battery? Think of a SecureID card on steroids and you'll get the general idea.

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  81. write once, read never by connorbd · · Score: 2

    Back when WORM drives were all the rage, some engineers at Atari actually implemented a worn: (Write Once, Read Never) device in Atari BASIC. I don't remember how it was done (it's buried in an old issue of Compute! that I probably threw out years ago) but I actually got to try it out on a computer at the school I was going to (back in the day when everyone had Apple ][s, this school was using Atari 800s).

    It was just an Easter Egg; I suppose some Unix geek at Atari just decided it needed its own equivalent of /dev/null.

    /Brian

    1. Re:write once, read never by Grax · · Score: 1

      Compute! April 1988. Bill Wilkinson

      "There are a couple of ways to use an Atari WORN, but here is one of the simplest. From BASIC, just type in the command:

      POKE 803,87

      Then load a BASIC program type:

      SAVE "WORN:TEST"

      Presto! Your program will be saved to this marvelous device. (Hit RESET to disable the WORN.)

      ...

      Of course, you should be careful not to rely on the WORN. ... you will probably have to ensure a reliable connection between your biological optical devices and your digital extremity input devices"

      (You'll have to retype your program in by hand.)

  82. press release by trb · · Score: 3, Informative

    There was an amusing press release that accompanied the Signetics WOM.

  83. WORN Drives by jrq · · Score: 1

    Back in the day of WORM drives, optical nonsense (Write Once Read Multiple). I did own a WORN drive (Write Once Read Never) from IBM.

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  84. This reminds me of another... by Trevin · · Score: 1

    I got a paper from one of my CS professors (many years back) entitled "Chips Found Floating Down Silicon Slough". It doesn't go into a lot of detail like the Write-Only Memory does, but it has several different chips, including the Don't Gate (which made LSI WOM possible), the IN-OP AMP, and the J(UN)K Flip-Flop.

  85. Slashdot--always up to date by Xaroth · · Score: 1

    Good to know that we always get current news with Slashdot.

    I think I'll submit my story about dinosaur extinction now.

  86. 'slip on latex protectors' to prevent VD by zrodney · · Score: 1

    "INPUT:

    All terminals are provided with slip-on latex
    protectors for the prevention of Voltage Destruction.
    (PILL packaged devices do not require protection.)"

  87. Re:wow by jquirke · · Score: 2

    Take his advice seriously people. He would know about this.

  88. Funny schematics by efedora · · Score: 1

    I once had an old (circa 1963) Tektronix Scope. In the very detailed service manual among the schematics was a section with the CRT symbolized as it really looked - tapered cone with a schematic of the tube connections. One day I was looking at the print and notice that there was a little stick man with a hat on, a climbing pick and a rope making his way up the side of the CRT.

    1. Re:Funny schematics by Amazing+Quantum+Man · · Score: 2

      Way back in the day (1981), one of my friends had a EE textbook with a "black box" circuit. No big deal, except that Snoopy(tm) was lying down on the black box as if it were his doghouse.

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  89. That Insertion Vs Remaining pins. by Baka*Exp+2 · · Score: 1

    That's actually my typical experience with sockets.

    That's also why I'm not allowed to touch things in the labs anymore.

  90. I thought... by happyclam · · Score: 2

    I thought write-only memory was Microsoft's solution to the problem of memory protection in Windows.

    You know, misbehaving applications accidentally used to scribble on other apps' memory spaces. When Microsoft forced the PC industry to install banks of WOM, suddenly every crash became an application error--those applications were not conforming to the Windows API. Instead of scribbling on another application's memory, the app should have been scribbling to the WOM.

    It was brilliant because overnight Microsoft foisted millions of dollars in OS support expenses on to application vendors.

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  91. WOM good for WO-languages like C++ by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 1

    I always used to joke (half joke) about c++ being a write-only language. ie, you can write code in it, but damned if you'll be able to figure out what you did 6months down the line. hence, write-only.

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    1. Re:WOM good for WO-languages like C++ by phil+reed · · Score: 1

      The classic write-once-read-never computer language was APL. It had so many strange operators that they (IBM) pretty much used up the entire greek alphabet. Only language I knew of that had arbitrary-sized matrix inversion as a primary operator.

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  92. DAT tape by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 2
    no, you have it all wrong.

    DAT is MORM (mangle-on-read memory). or maybe TORM (tangle-on-read memory).

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  93. AOL? by KlomDark · · Score: 1

    What's the deal with the AOL graph on Sheet 2? AOL wasn't around in 1972, so is this a fake, or does AOL refer to something else besides "It's so lame and slow, no wonder it's #1"?

    1. Re:AOL? by phil+reed · · Score: 1

      It's AQL. It's a quality measure (in this case - lower quality for slower paying customers). Damn jpeg pixellation.

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  94. dates by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've gone out with a few women who's minds use the same principal.

  95. Actually there are good uses for WOM by Kjella · · Score: 2

    ...partcularly in hardware encryption (Debit cards, PVRs, Access control systems, whatever. The point is that a chip has basicly two functions: SetKey(key) and Decode/Encode(data). You set the key, but you can never read the key. Of course the chip will use the key internally to come from plaintext to chipertext or vice versa, but as long as the encryption is strong it doesn't matter. (Def. of strong: Having plain & ciphertext doesn't help to find the key, most algorithms today are strong, the zip encryption is weak though).

    Of course this means you need a specialized chip, and not a general CPU, which is overkill in many cases..

    Kjella

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  96. the real write-only memory (well, sorta) by techstep · · Score: 2, Interesting
    From what I remember, there actually was a form of write-only memory at one point. Some of the sound registers on the Commodore 64 were "write only" in the sense that you could poke any value (well, from 0-255) into the memory location and it would change the nature of the sounds generated. However, if you tried to peek into the address, it returned with zero no matter what. Can anyone verify this? It's been a good bunch of years since I've had one of those to program.

    Not truly write-only memory (in the sense that you could get a value, albeit a painfully useless one), but it seems to come close to the spirit.

    1. Re:the real write-only memory (well, sorta) by cant_get_a_good_nick · · Score: 1
      Damn, I was just going to post this, you beat me to it, bastard....


      Due to the limits of only being able to address of 64Kb of RAM, they played some cool tricks with the architecture. It had a few different chips that read from the address bus, including the SID (sound) chip and the graphics controller. You could hit a couple hardware registers and use some memory overlays, say overlay 16Kb of graphics memory in one of a few locations. If you set memory in an overlaid area, say for graphics, you'd set the overlaid graphics memory, and the graphics controller would read from there. But the CPU would read from the normal, non-overlaid RAM underneath. You'd never be able to read what you just set. Yeah, you couldn't use the area underneath the overlay for data, but you could use it as your text segment.

    2. Re:the real write-only memory (well, sorta) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The CoCo (or Radio Shack Color Computer) had several write only registers, some of them would set the clock speed faster or change the video display properties. There wasn't any memory attached to them, however, so I don't think that's quite the same thing.

  97. Re:wow by HtR · · Score: 1
    malkman writes:
    However, through the use of simple mathematics I've deducted a formula that explains this habit-
    sP + aF / P = Need of being the first poster
    You see, the persons small penis (sP) factor is added to his annoyance factor (aF) and divided by any real personality this poster may have (P), creates the probability of having a first post, as well as the need to be the first poster.

    Be careful applying this formula. For many first posters, you will get a "divide by zero" error.

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  98. The RIAA would approve by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This would obviously have no implications to the DMCA. RIAA and MPAA would wholeheartedly endorse this technology. write-once, read-never technology is something that they have been working on since before Napster.

  99. I remember this! by Spinality · · Score: 2

    This was a pants-wetter back in 1972. Though I remember some different tearsheets -- they had marketing material as well, I think. One showed a "modified TO-5 case" that was in fact a photo of a water tower. The WOM campaign became a bit of cult humor for a generation of engineers and hobbyists.

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  100. AOL Prices on last sheet? by Meleschi · · Score: 1

    Did anyone other than me see the AOL Selling Price diagram on the 2nd sheet?

    I seriously doubt that sheet was made as far back as the 1970's!

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    1. Re:AOL Prices on last sheet? by Utopia · · Score: 1

      Read again. Its AQL (Acceptable Quality Level)

  101. Nice to see this come up again!!!! by farrellj · · Score: 2

    I enjoyed it muchly back in the '80s when I first saw it, and now I will have a computer version...much better than the photcopied version that was many generations old...

    ttyl
    Farrell

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  102. subtle... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The data sheet talks about a clock line capacitance of 2 pF...when measured with a 1.9 pF
    capacitor in series. Remember capacitances in series combine by the reciprocal law (1/(1/C1 + 1/C2)) so if you work it out you find the line capacitance is -38 pF.

  103. Somebody tell the RIAA! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They'll want to try this as a new copyright-protection scheme, I'm sure!

  104. I remember this! by evilpenguin · · Score: 2

    My old man was an eletrical engineer at Control Data for many years. He brought home doezens of things like this. I remember specifcations for the Write-Only Memory. I remember the FED (Flame-Emitting Diode; a cover photo from EDN magazine), the NED (Noise-Emitting Diode), alternative logic gates like the "DON'T" gate (no matter what two bits are input, the output is zero). I remeber even linear components like the IN-OP AMP. I loved this stuff. My dad was also a radio amateur and he and friend wrote an article proposing solving the spectrum shortage by using the negative freqeuncy spectrum. They included diagrams showing you how to bury your antenna and stick the ground rod up in the air.

    Who says engineers aren't funny (at least to each other)?

  105. DRDW Memory by La+Gris · · Score: 1

    Well, the next step should be a Don't Read Don't Write memory also called DMem for Dummy Memory. -- Léa Gris

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  106. HAWAT - I want that WOM Press RELEASE! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    HAWAT - I want that Press RELEASE!

    Please contact me:

    abacaxi at hotmail dot com

    It would be nice to reissue the press release along with the datasheet.

    1. Re:HAWAT - I want that WOM Press RELEASE! by trb · · Score: 1
  107. works great for backing up, not restoring... by SethJohnson · · Score: 2


    This reminds me of a friend of mine who had a DAT drive for his Mac. He would do weekly backups of his entire (500meg or so) hard drive on this same tape. He was basically rewriting over the same stuff all the time. Apparently these tapes (I don't know anything about tape drive storage) degrade after repeated writings. So one day his system is hosed and he goes to the tape to recover. Nothing will read.

    He called me on the phone to discuss the situation. As we concluded our conversation, I remember him sort of defending the reputation of the device by saying in a very sincere voice, "It works great for backups, it just doesn't work too well for restoration." And he was serious.
  108. 6.3 volt filament voltage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wonder how may people here
    know that refers to tubes.

  109. Big deal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have an old CD burner that makes a pretty good WO device. It also uses removable media, so I can use it to make multiple WO backups that can be taken offsite to a secure location. I use it for all of our important HR information.

  110. Re:wow by wedg · · Score: 2

    Be careful applying this formula. For many first posters, you will get a "divide by zero" error.

    Are you saying many first posters are women?

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  111. Ah, yes... by attercoppe · · Score: 1

    There was an article about this in (I think) Scientific American a while back. I think I even saved that issue - I'd look it up for you, but I'm in the middle of a move, and it's packed up...somewhere.

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  112. My brain... by rbook · · Score: 1

    ... runs on this stuff

  113. And don't forget ... by John+Jorsett · · Score: 1

    The Dark Emitting Diode (DED, aka 'friode'), the Smoke Emitting Diode (SED), and the Light Emitting Resistor.

    And the Shakespearean Gate (a picture is funnier, but you get the idea):
    __
    2B | 2B = ?

  114. Re:wow by Monsieur_F · · Score: 1
    the first post has the effect of actually *shrinking* his penis

    Well, I think he might think enlarging his penis is really easy : just consider how many spam mails explain how to do this...
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  115. Re:wow by Xenographic · · Score: 1

    What happens if P=0? You'd think we'd know by now, seeing as this *IS* /. ...

  116. I though it was more pages. by SWTP · · Score: 1

    Ok dating myself! I remember that ad when it pop out. Cant remember if it was in a mag or in a reference book. But I think there was another page. Or was that a funny about the NE555- The greatest washing machine times in history! Using somting about a match and a stick of TNT i think.

    Dont you know all of these hyper compressor schemes uses the modern version of this chip.

  117. All mine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is how my memory works most of the time. I do have a patent on it, but can't find it for some reason.

  118. True Geeks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ah the good old days when real geeks had pocket protectors and a programmer was not afraid of machine code!!!

  119. Re:There are a few applications for write-only mem by Technician · · Score: 2

    FYI, This data sheet made it into the Signetics IC handbook, which is where I first saw it back in my PDP 11/35 days. I liked the Drain pin. It was properly placed over the Bit Bucket to prevent spilling data.

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  120. I can one up that. . by Bastian · · Score: 2

    A couple of weeks ago, I destroyed the swap partition on my linux box without any prior preparations, just to see what would happen. The machine had been up and running for weeeks. . .

    Sadly, nothing happened. I guess that's what I get for putting 1/2 gig of RAM in a machine that's primarily used for surfing the web . . .

  121. My friend owns the actual thing and... by pr0f3550r · · Score: 0

    My friend told me about the situation around it's release. It was, in fact, a joke that was included by the engineers and was supposed to be removed before print. He said that when it was discovered by the bosses, they didn't think it was very funny. He was amazed that thirty years later it is still around and being talked about.

  122. That's great. by Inoshiro · · Score: 2

    "read protect made the upgrade effectively invisible."

    I know I love buying new hardware, sticking it in my machine, and never hearing from it again.

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  123. damn kids by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    it-was-funny-before-i-was-born dept.

    Well, that explains the juvenile attitude. Let me guess, you're a college grad as well?

  124. Test, ignore by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just testing submitting.

    My Canberra ANU Aikido pages

  125. Anyone remember... by jo42 · · Score: 1
    The "HCF" assembler instruction?

    Halt and Catch Fire for the current generation of Linux [on the brain] dweebs.

  126. The 68HC11 has one... by brettper · · Score: 1

    There's a control register bit called EIEIO (sound it out if you're hard of thinking) - some sort of Extended IO control, I forget exactly what it was for