After Punk'd, I would never speak with anyone remotely appearing to give me a hard time over anything whatsoever. I'd just walk away. Who would speak to MTV anyway? Aren't they just a bunch of asshats with lots of money but no direction whatsoever? I mean, I'd love to party with those guys because it'd be a blast... but to work seriously (or try to) with MTV would be like a game of career-Russian-roulette.
Gnomefiles.org looks nice and intuitive. I like the RSS feed, the layout and the simple interface of the site. I've wanted to go in this direction for some time and I think I might just have to try gnome out now. Any suggestions for someone getting started with Gnome?
1) Setup massive spamming operation 2) Make millions 3) Get sued and settle for a mere six figures 4) Stop spamming operation 5) Tell world you going to help children 6) Profit!!!!
> The Gmail Web interface isn't all that impressive
I have to call bullshit on that. I'm a beta member and I have to say that Gmail is the *most* impressive email client I have ever laid eyes on. Anyone who says otherwise is a stakeholder on another project, or just playing devil's advocate for some obscure reasons.
> Any way my point wasn't about increasing fee's it was if they can can do this and take the customers money without telling them.
Well you could but it would be evil to do so. I agree with you on that, but a shrewd business always does things behind the scenes, even if they are not being forthright about it. I think AOL has made many many many mistakes in the past and announcing this is just another mistake, in the long run. In the short run, investors will look at this as a positive, but in the long run they will lose out on market share.
What they SHOULD have done was announce a NEW service and offered upgrades to that. That would have been much smarter than saying they were going to start charging for a free service... that was just Darwin.
> Because theres probably a law against taking peoples money without asking you know theft or something.
No, there's no law against fee increases. It's always been whatever the market will bear. Rolling the fees in, is a fancy way of saying increasing the budget to pay for video conference logistics.
I suspect they will simply cost-roll these services so they can control how much they charge/budget internally without disclosing the value of the services to end-users, but they will publish the value to advertisers, and inflate for AOL.
I had to laugh about this. I was an early adopter of ICQ back in the day. Remember all the "ICQ is going to charge" trolls that kept getting dimwits to forward that to their contact list? Oh please kill me!
Anyway, the AIM charging for video doesn't work for me. There will always be free services around that don't require fees. What they *should* do is hide the fees in your subscription and only allow subscribers to use VC... that would totally fly. Why these companies announce these fees makes about as much sense as the mass-mailing of registration CDROMs!
It's hard to get over history, really. I see what you're saying though... it's important to make sure the history is told, because mainstream media isn't going to record it. History is recorded by the champions in battle, and elections have become as war, as elections are won to wage war, or bring peace.
> They'll vote, and votes will be miscounted. Then someone will become president (exactly who doesn't matter).
I think that votes get miscounted when parties use malicious practice by disqualifying entire races from voting just because their last name is the same as someone with a criminal record. This is what Dubya did to get elected, plus he used a lot of other crazy tactics to sway the vote.
Voting machines could be a factor, but I think that the social engineering from parties needs to be quelled far before we worry about counts. Even recounts were suspended. So even an auditing system can't prevent social engineering by parties.
The law isn't doing anything to prevent elections from being stolen. Their hands are tied because of bribes, mostly.
You can have the perfect voting system but it doesn't count for anything if your country is lawless. A covenant without a sword is meaningless.
I like the ease of PHP and the fact I fully understand it helps. I've wanted to learn Perl, but lack the motivation except to perhaps code some patches for/.
Anyone feel the same way about either PHP or another scripting language? When you fully learn one, is there a need to switch?
Remember, when you have more experience with a scripting language, you can pretty much create anything you'll need at a rapid rate. I think that the level of your knowledge determines the effectiveness of the language.
I have sleep apnea, and I wonder if they have accomodated for anyone with this disorder? I think a pressurized room might do the trick, but I'm not sure.
> I gotta ask- why would think this would create "background material for articles?"
My take on it was that with a million articles dating back to the 19th century could back up comments and articles that touch on the early roots of technology or modern science, and perhaps these sources could lead to some interesting comments on the subject matter, or possibly even revelations? Who knows what we'll find? Maybe once the library is used more and more frequently, they will begin adding many more works to it as well.
Whenever someone is talking about famous scientists, any additional info can help, and many many many stories on Slashdot discuss historical features.
I wasn't saying it would be a good source, but that it would help back up statements in stories with additional links to resources. Look at some of the math theories being solved today, for instance; how many of these unsolved mysteries posed in the 19th Century? Many, if I'm not mistaken.
I don't think anyone can be certain how this will exactly affect Slashdot, but I'm guessing that extra info from this era couldn't hurt, right?
> Sorry to burst your bubble but Google doesn't index text in scanned images.
Sorry to burst yours, but I'm guessing they will find a way to index these. It's google, and this is a huge project. What do you want to bet Google indexes them all by hand, or that text versions become available?
Before everyone gets carried away with the dupe jokes (as I am the submitter), I think it's important to note the cultural and scientific differences since these articles were originally written. To have a central online repository of this much data will help students to learn. Many students today rely on Google, but google is lacking complete works. Now Google will be able to index another million articles, and that means our knowledge and understanding of that era will increase as time passes. All other benefits are still important, but the student factor is, I think, the greatest part of this.
Now that a complete online library is going online, perhaps other libraries will follow suit, and keep information free?
She's legal in Canada. Age of consent is 14 here. I think the Liberals are trying to push it down to 13, the pervs.
But in all seriousness, my college room-mate had a 386 and then replaced it with a 486. A guy on our floor had a 486 with tape drives and the works. That was great until someone hit his room with a leaner and hosed his whole backup system (which was on the floor). For all you who don't know what a leaner is, it's when someone fills a garbage can with water and tilts it against someone's door. When they open it, the water splooshes over everything, especially them. Pretty nasty! We used mirrors to check for leaners so they never got us.:-)
Bah, I went from a 286, to a P-133 and then up from there, regularly. Nostalgia time. {{ahhhh}}
I like the CBC radio because there aren't any ads or bullshit like this article is pointing to; it's funded by our government and there are zero ads whatsoever. Sure it's news radio, but they also have some great music on there at times. All of our other local radio stations, except for Queen's University Radio (CFRC-FM) would stoop this low. It's pretty sickening if you ask me. University radio usually doesn't bother with gimmicks as they get most of their funding from the student government (and the student body). Even a solid hour of classical music is better than twenty-seven ad blocks in an hour, like on other local radio stations. It's just not worth it to listen to commercial radio stations these days -- too much crap.
This is a great step towards a more social use of computers. Instead of being bogged down with components and using hardware to move files around, it looks as though presenters will be able to quickly move through lectures or presentations without having to mess around. This seems much more seamless to me, and natural. Imagine gaming with the pick and drop scenario. I'm an amateur game designer and this is opening a whole new field of dreams for me... like maybe a better way to interract with film, in theatres, or the advent of much better interactive social gaming.
While simplicity is good, as far as mental-recognition goes, taking simplicity to the max is a bad idea, especially when we have the technology to produce quality-driven graphics. You have to stay around the current level of production quality or you will lose audience. A good example of over-simplification for graphics is demonstrated by the terrible reviews given Radical's unsightly (cell shaded) The Hulk PS2 game. So there's subject matter to consider, as The Hulk was a kind of wacky cartoon/comic, but there was always a darker side to it for me. I was disappointed with the semi-recent Hulk movie, but does that mean the game had to suck too?
For me, a balance of player control with appealing storyline is critical to any video game, and the lack of plausible graphics never helps. Perhaps this could be graphed on a curve or something, but I truly believe there is a balance between all elements of any game or CG film for that matter. Even in film there is still a kind of gameplay, in the physics used and the modes of operations designed to portray the story. Compelling writing fuels the arts, not parlor tricks, so this subject is not exactly cut and dry, by any means... it's very subjective and taste-driven. Another thing to consider is the date that media is designed, because we can all look back at early animation or even live-action special effects and think it looks fake, and the stuff created today will look fake tomorrow. Is there a ceiling to special effects?
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After Punk'd, I would never speak with anyone remotely appearing to give me a hard time over anything whatsoever. I'd just walk away. Who would speak to MTV anyway? Aren't they just a bunch of asshats with lots of money but no direction whatsoever? I mean, I'd love to party with those guys because it'd be a blast... but to work seriously (or try to) with MTV would be like a game of career-Russian-roulette.
Gnomefiles.org looks nice and intuitive. I like the RSS feed, the layout and the simple interface of the site. I've wanted to go in this direction for some time and I think I might just have to try gnome out now. Any suggestions for someone getting started with Gnome?
1) Setup massive spamming operation
2) Make millions
3) Get sued and settle for a mere six figures
4) Stop spamming operation
5) Tell world you going to help children
6) Profit!!!!
I think it's funny to read all these Yahoo supporters try to derail Gmail. Haven't they learned anything yet? Google == God.
> I guess it's OK if she already paid Yahoo, but for anyone who didn't, it's not even comparable.
Agreed. Gmail is sooooo nice, and free.
> The Gmail Web interface isn't all that impressive
I have to call bullshit on that. I'm a beta member and I have to say that Gmail is the *most* impressive email client I have ever laid eyes on. Anyone who says otherwise is a stakeholder on another project, or just playing devil's advocate for some obscure reasons.
Everything about Gmail is 100% fucking awesome!
> Any way my point wasn't about increasing fee's it was if they can can do this and take the customers money without telling them.
Well you could but it would be evil to do so. I agree with you on that, but a shrewd business always does things behind the scenes, even if they are not being forthright about it. I think AOL has made many many many mistakes in the past and announcing this is just another mistake, in the long run. In the short run, investors will look at this as a positive, but in the long run they will lose out on market share.
What they SHOULD have done was announce a NEW service and offered upgrades to that. That would have been much smarter than saying they were going to start charging for a free service... that was just Darwin.
> Because theres probably a law against taking peoples money without asking you know theft or something.
No, there's no law against fee increases. It's always been whatever the market will bear. Rolling the fees in, is a fancy way of saying increasing the budget to pay for video conference logistics.
I suspect they will simply cost-roll these services so they can control how much they charge/budget internally without disclosing the value of the services to end-users, but they will publish the value to advertisers, and inflate for AOL.
I had to laugh about this. I was an early adopter of ICQ back in the day. Remember all the "ICQ is going to charge" trolls that kept getting dimwits to forward that to their contact list? Oh please kill me!
Anyway, the AIM charging for video doesn't work for me. There will always be free services around that don't require fees. What they *should* do is hide the fees in your subscription and only allow subscribers to use VC... that would totally fly. Why these companies announce these fees makes about as much sense as the mass-mailing of registration CDROMs!
It's hard to get over history, really. I see what you're saying though... it's important to make sure the history is told, because mainstream media isn't going to record it. History is recorded by the champions in battle, and elections have become as war, as elections are won to wage war, or bring peace.
> They'll vote, and votes will be miscounted. Then someone will become president (exactly who doesn't matter).
I think that votes get miscounted when parties use malicious practice by disqualifying entire races from voting just because their last name is the same as someone with a criminal record. This is what Dubya did to get elected, plus he used a lot of other crazy tactics to sway the vote.
Voting machines could be a factor, but I think that the social engineering from parties needs to be quelled far before we worry about counts. Even recounts were suspended. So even an auditing system can't prevent social engineering by parties.
The law isn't doing anything to prevent elections from being stolen. Their hands are tied because of bribes, mostly.
You can have the perfect voting system but it doesn't count for anything if your country is lawless. A covenant without a sword is meaningless.
I like the ease of PHP and the fact I fully understand it helps. I've wanted to learn Perl, but lack the motivation except to perhaps code some patches for /.
Anyone feel the same way about either PHP or another scripting language? When you fully learn one, is there a need to switch?
Remember, when you have more experience with a scripting language, you can pretty much create anything you'll need at a rapid rate. I think that the level of your knowledge determines the effectiveness of the language.
I'm the poster and the brittish pound sign is not accepted in Slashdot stories. Mine kept getting deleted. I even tried web ents.
So to get the cost in there, I had to convert.
I have sleep apnea, and I wonder if they have accomodated for anyone with this disorder? I think a pressurized room might do the trick, but I'm not sure.
> I gotta ask- why would think this would create "background material for articles?"
My take on it was that with a million articles dating back to the 19th century could back up comments and articles that touch on the early roots of technology or modern science, and perhaps these sources could lead to some interesting comments on the subject matter, or possibly even revelations? Who knows what we'll find? Maybe once the library is used more and more frequently, they will begin adding many more works to it as well.
Whenever someone is talking about famous scientists, any additional info can help, and many many many stories on Slashdot discuss historical features.
I wasn't saying it would be a good source, but that it would help back up statements in stories with additional links to resources. Look at some of the math theories being solved today, for instance; how many of these unsolved mysteries posed in the 19th Century? Many, if I'm not mistaken.
I don't think anyone can be certain how this will exactly affect Slashdot, but I'm guessing that extra info from this era couldn't hurt, right?
> (I think The Onion does this better than me.)
:-)
Maybe so, but I still had a good chuckle!
> Sorry to burst your bubble but Google doesn't index text in scanned images.
Sorry to burst yours, but I'm guessing they will find a way to index these. It's google, and this is a huge project. What do you want to bet Google indexes them all by hand, or that text versions become available?
I submitted this early yesterday, but I guess it got passed over. I'm quite happy Michael posted it, because it's about compelling subject. :-)
Before everyone gets carried away with the dupe jokes (as I am the submitter), I think it's important to note the cultural and scientific differences since these articles were originally written. To have a central online repository of this much data will help students to learn. Many students today rely on Google, but google is lacking complete works. Now Google will be able to index another million articles, and that means our knowledge and understanding of that era will increase as time passes. All other benefits are still important, but the student factor is, I think, the greatest part of this.
Now that a complete online library is going online, perhaps other libraries will follow suit, and keep information free?
Yeah 24 hours is about right. They should phone Trump and do each hour in realtime for reality TV. That'd be something I'd watch.
"We have no content, no products or services."
"Don't be so negative, we have kittens!"
"Right, kittens!"
"They can play with the kittens if they register on the site..."
"And registration should be 5 tier'd so we can upscale our sales model."
"Why only 5? Let's go with 10 tiers, so everything from Zinc members right up to Platinum VIP Studs."
"Ok, we're done."
"How long was that?"
"We have about 23.56 hours left."
"Let's get some beer!"
She's legal in Canada. Age of consent is 14 here. I think the Liberals are trying to push it down to 13, the pervs.
:-)
But in all seriousness, my college room-mate had a 386 and then replaced it with a 486. A guy on our floor had a 486 with tape drives and the works. That was great until someone hit his room with a leaner and hosed his whole backup system (which was on the floor). For all you who don't know what a leaner is, it's when someone fills a garbage can with water and tilts it against someone's door. When they open it, the water splooshes over everything, especially them. Pretty nasty! We used mirrors to check for leaners so they never got us.
Bah, I went from a 286, to a P-133 and then up from there, regularly. Nostalgia time. {{ahhhh}}
I like the CBC radio because there aren't any ads or bullshit like this article is pointing to; it's funded by our government and there are zero ads whatsoever. Sure it's news radio, but they also have some great music on there at times. All of our other local radio stations, except for Queen's University Radio (CFRC-FM) would stoop this low. It's pretty sickening if you ask me. University radio usually doesn't bother with gimmicks as they get most of their funding from the student government (and the student body). Even a solid hour of classical music is better than twenty-seven ad blocks in an hour, like on other local radio stations. It's just not worth it to listen to commercial radio stations these days -- too much crap.
This is a great step towards a more social use of computers. Instead of being bogged down with components and using hardware to move files around, it looks as though presenters will be able to quickly move through lectures or presentations without having to mess around. This seems much more seamless to me, and natural. Imagine gaming with the pick and drop scenario. I'm an amateur game designer and this is opening a whole new field of dreams for me... like maybe a better way to interract with film, in theatres, or the advent of much better interactive social gaming.
Shouldn't all the details of settlements be published by the FCC? There's not enough info here...
While simplicity is good, as far as mental-recognition goes, taking simplicity to the max is a bad idea, especially when we have the technology to produce quality-driven graphics. You have to stay around the current level of production quality or you will lose audience. A good example of over-simplification for graphics is demonstrated by the terrible reviews given Radical's unsightly (cell shaded) The Hulk PS2 game. So there's subject matter to consider, as The Hulk was a kind of wacky cartoon/comic, but there was always a darker side to it for me. I was disappointed with the semi-recent Hulk movie, but does that mean the game had to suck too?
For me, a balance of player control with appealing storyline is critical to any video game, and the lack of plausible graphics never helps. Perhaps this could be graphed on a curve or something, but I truly believe there is a balance between all elements of any game or CG film for that matter. Even in film there is still a kind of gameplay, in the physics used and the modes of operations designed to portray the story. Compelling writing fuels the arts, not parlor tricks, so this subject is not exactly cut and dry, by any means... it's very subjective and taste-driven. Another thing to consider is the date that media is designed, because we can all look back at early animation or even live-action special effects and think it looks fake, and the stuff created today will look fake tomorrow. Is there a ceiling to special effects?