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Flashing Back to the Dotcom Era: 24 Hour Dotcom
comforteagle writes "I was taken back six years in one swoop by the 24 Hour dotcom project this morning. A group of german folks at the Wizards of OS conference have launched 24 hour sit-in 'to create a dotcom business from scratch in 24 hours.' As of writing there's only three hours left until the IPO on eBay. Half serious, half art project, it looks like great fun."
Isn't that in the same league as "placebo chemist" or "linux licence"?
;-)
Really, I'd only be impressed if they subsequently managed to burn through a few million dollars and go out of business within 24 hours - like most other dotcoms in the '90s
Code, Hardware, stuff like that.
and 6 hours left until they have to fire every employee... or outsource them to india.
Half serious, half art project
Half-stupid. The sad part is, someone is going to buy into this heap.
Impulse is a scary force in human nature.
From the article:
* 19:00 Building the Office* 19:30 Kick-off party
* 19:45 International expansion
* 22:00 Concepts and planning
* 02:00 Nightly coding
* 14:00 Milestone 1
* 15:00 Milestone 2
* 16:00 Milestone 3
* 16:50 Milestone 4
* 17:00 Press conference
* 18:00 Final candidate 1
* 18:30 Release Party
* 19:00 Final release
* 18:59 Launch, IPO on eBay
They sure do have their priorities right! All the essential ingredients of a dotcom...
...would it reach to bankrupcy?
An IPO on eBay? It sounds creepy and foreshadowing of things to come. As if eBay isn't central to our economy enough.
Any /.er's planning to bid?
I'm sure they are really appreciating the slashdotting given that they only have a few hours left to construct and sell their web-based application.
no, I'm not planning to bid. :)
Just run a shopping cart and put your old socks onsale! There you have a new online sale system. Your very own oldsocks.com.Also you can have it eBay types and do some kinda barterlike trading undies for socks...think about it. :-O
Lord of the Binges.
One of the harder things to do within 24 hours seems to actually get a dot com address.
"Sorry honey, I can't go visit your parents with you, I'm starting a business today. But I'll be finished with it by Tuesday..."
Another implication...as much as our friends in Redmond slap us in the face with the fact that businesses are all about making money and not about providing goods or services, I wonder how people would trust a business that literally sprang up overnight to be in our best interest?
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[ducks]
Sigs are bad for your health.
Will they be bankrupt in 48 hours as well?
Or:
<style>
body{
background-color: white;
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<style>
People never used to forget this, but now I see it all the time... People just assume that the background color on a web page will be white, and design with that in mind.
Well, I've got my browsers set to show gray backgrounds by default, JUST THE WAY GOD INTENDED! None of this white background heresy! Btw, slashdot apperantly dosn't allow >body bgcolor="white"> as a subject, even thought they convert "<>" to "<>" automaticaly. Lame.
autopr0n is like, down and stuff.
Yeah 24 hours is about right. They should phone Trump and do each hour in realtime for reality TV. That'd be something I'd watch.
"We have no content, no products or services."
"Don't be so negative, we have kittens!"
"Right, kittens!"
"They can play with the kittens if they register on the site..."
"And registration should be 5 tier'd so we can upscale our sales model."
"Why only 5? Let's go with 10 tiers, so everything from Zinc members right up to Platinum VIP Studs."
"Ok, we're done."
"How long was that?"
"We have about 23.56 hours left."
"Let's get some beer!"
The dangers of knowledge trigger emotional distress in human beings.
I am a Slashdot sucker. I just paid $11 for 1% of a 24-hour fly-by night company that showed up on Slashdot.
Considering I never lost any money on dot-coms though, it seems like a good investment. Yes? Or no?
I mean, their marketing guy got a story on Slashdot which is more than I can say I've ever accomplished!
*Searching for a pin*
Here's the original.
I also reply below your current threshold.
It seems pretty sketchy to ask people to pony up money without much information about what they are buying and without a track record to show that the market for this thing (whatever it is) actually exists and is capable of supporting this company.
However, like far too many dotcoms, they'll probably find someone greedy enough...
Am I part of the core demographic for Swedish Fish?
If it was a true dot com, it'll be dead in another 24 hours.
--Dave
Is that this is probably more planning than went into 99% of the dot.coms.
that they only have a few hours left yet there is nothing on there site about what the product they have decide on is orhow one would bid on the ebay auctions...any /.ers got more up to date info
I thought it said "Build a dot-com that will scratch in 24 hours." I didn't know it was possible to go out of business that fast!
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Dear Son,
I invested your inheritance in a 24-hour dot-com that I read about in Slashdot. I am now penniless. Say goodbye to your mother for me. Learn from my mistakes and avenge my death. The CEO? Adam Wern.
Love,
Dad
I'm not quite sure why... but it just sounded interesting. Yea yea yea.. call me stupid all you want, I realize I probably just wasted $11 but hey what the hell.
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"In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."
-- George Orwell
This is a great use of how powerful the Internet can become. These guys are going to get a ton of traffic and have a viable site now because of slashdot. Wow. Anyway, I also tried to start a dotcom this week - GroupShares.com - and it had a very successful first week. About 50 registered users and some ad money from adsense - enough to Incorporate in FL anyway. Goes to show that if you do enough work, maybe anyone can get a dotcom off the ground.
Cool.
Aj
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It's some community-based meta-search. I saw that on some webpage that I can't find anymore or I'd give you a link.
--AC
"No more investments, please! Stop sending us money!" ...these guys remember what the dotcom boom was all about right?
They just took down the link and replaced it with:
"No more investments, please! Stop sending us money!"
Was thinking of buying a few given the amount of publicity this is getting and the relatively low cost of investing ($11 a share).
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You can find their dotcom site at
http://dozomo.24hdc.com/
Taken from their site:
What is dozomo?
Dozomo is a quick way to reach every search engine in the world! Just type the name of a search engine followed by a search term, and dozomo will take you there immediately. If you want to search google for "Miles Davis", for example, type "google Miles Davis". To search allmusic for "Miles Davis", just type "allmusic Miles Davis".
Soon they will be millionaires with this !
Don't you need to wait 24-72 hours before a newly registered .com domain name actually shows up around the world?
Alex.
Yup, it is performance art!
the first version is up on http://dozomo.24hdc.com/
lets see how it holds up....
But then said "No More" on the web site. They better rethink this, or they could have the quickest create/IPO/Sued to hell in history
Hey guys! You what'll help you along with that web app? Pitiful melting slashdotted servers!
From the site: INVEST: No more investments, please! Stop sending us money!
At the moment, these kids are really drowning in cash.
There you are, staring at me again.
The Dozomo team has manipulated the Webproxy at the WOS3-Conference so that when you query Google, you are redirected to Dozomo. The problem is that your search parameters are not passed on. So users are forced to enter their search query a second time and post the dozomo-form. Then they get to google (or whatever search engine they specified).
Bad enough, but it gets worse: When you now modify your search query on google, you are redirected back again - and again, your search query is not passed on!
Querying the web from the conference is a pain at the moment. If I had shares, I would sell them.
If only I had mod points. This is so funny.
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Whatever happened to ESR saying he wasn't going to let his new found wealth go to his head. What a pompous ass. Reminds me of a fortune I got the other day (maybe even at the bottom of a
"Don't be humble... you're not that great."
I have this vivid recollection of going to visit a Silicon Valley dot-com in 2000. They were bidding to provide the backend for an ecommerce project I was working on for another dot-com (see how incestuous the whole thing was?).
We talked for a while about their underlying technology. I noticed a couple of dozen people scurrying around in the open bay of the converted light industrial warehouse, so I asked the CTO what all of those people were doing. "They're in marketing and sales," he replied confidently.
"So who are your current customers?" I couldn't help but ask.
"Well, our infrastructure is still being rolled out," he answered.
"Umm.. you mean, your datacenter is still in the works?"
"Well, yes, but the application itself is still evolving."
I could tell where this was headed. "What percentage of this functionality we've been talking about is actually available right now, today?"
He at least had enough shame to avert his gaze as he admitted, "Well, we're almost there. I'd say 75% of the functionality is there right now, but by the time we finish you're project, we'll have all of the desired functionality for our product."
These guys had over $10M in funding, and had been in business for four months before we spoke with them. Their revolutionary new technology was essentially an Object Perl framework for building websites. They had no customers. They had no product. They had lots of money. All of their managers were under 30 years old.
THAT was a dot-com.
Read the EFF's Fair Use FAQ
less than 40 minutes now, and over 3 hours of work
Domain Name.......... oldsocks.com
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Creation Date........ 2003-02-07
Registration Date.... 2003-02-07
Expiry Date.......... 2005-02-07
Organisation Name.... Joe-King Magical Entertainer
Organisation Address. 4 Queens Avenue
Organisation Address.
Organisation Address. Market Deeping
Organisation Address. PE6 8JF
Organisation Address. Lincolnshire
Organisation Address. GREAT BRITAIN (UK)
Admin Name........... Technical Support
Admin Address........ 109-111 Farringdon Road
Admin Address........
Admin Address........ London
Admin Address........ EC1R 3BW
Admin Address........
Admin Address........ GREAT BRITAIN (UK)
Admin Email.......... helpdesk@easily.co.uk
Admin Phone.......... 4402078410070
Admin Fax............ 4402078417460
Tech Name............ Technical Support
Tech Address......... Easily Limited
Tech Address......... 109-111 Farringdon Road
Tech Address......... London
Tech Address......... EC1R 3BW
Tech Address......... *
Tech Address......... GREAT BRITAIN (UK)
Tech Email........... helpdesk@easily.co.uk
Tech Phone........... +44.2078410070
Tech Fax............. +44.2078417460
Name Server.......... dns0.easily.co.uk
Name Server.......... dns1.easily.co.uk
I added Slashdot to the Dozomo search engine. Just type Slashdot query, and you get to use /.'s extremely efficient search.
I added slashdot search there. Their site is holding up quite well, with the slashdotting. Still alive but barely. Any bets on who will dies first? the company or the website??? My money is on the company.
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2. Make lots of money
3. Work within the law
Choose any two.
From the article:
* 19:00 Building the Office
* 19:30 Kick-off party
* 19:45 International expansion
* 22:00 Concepts and planning
* 02:00 Nightly coding
* 14:00 Milestone 1
* 15:00 Milestone 2
* 16:00 Milestone 3
* 16:50 Milestone 4
* 17:00 Press conference
* 18:00 Final candidate 1
* 18:30 Release Party
* 19:00 Final release
* 18:59 Launch, IPO on eBay
They forgot to apply for a patent!
IPO On Ebay, they better make sure they follow the Sarbanes Oxley Act
Would be horrible to do 20 years in jail for Art.
I want you to hire me, pay 100,000 dollars, and give 100,000 shares. Maybe I'll work 5 days a week, and I will always be wearin tee-shirt and shorts.
and sneer, I'll sneer at you a lot.
The Kruger Dunning explains most post on
I added Ask Jeeves to their SE list with Konqu eror. The cgi response errors and success messages needed to be downloaded to a textfile (mime types, kids) but that's a config tweak I'm sure they have on a list...
Anyway, some of their code is working, now a meta search engine that returns only the links that I really want, now that'll be a trillion...
Neeeever mind...
i hope they're a PLC, or they'll all be bankrupt by the end of the week.
just saying they have 15 minutes to finish and have to do nearly half the project
If you have nothing useful to say post as AC.
Looking at the project they came up with, Dozomo it's impressive for a 24hr hack. I guess you'd call it a 'one stop search engine superstore' or something. It's got browser plugins and even supports slashdot searches +)
my sig's at the bottom of the page.
Blame the In-Jins! It's all we have left!!!
Heh, I was there when it hit 0 seconds. Then, it just started couting back up again. Now that's how they plan to do it :)
It is a pretty typical dot-com in this regard: check out how many coders they had!
Adam Wern, CEO
Eric Wahlforss, CIO
Friedrich-Wilhelm Graf, Chief Designer
Nadia Gisler, Design Consultant
Joni Braun, Photographer
Tav, CTO
Stephan Karpischek, COO
David Thunman, Logistics
Fubbi Minister of desinfo
Antje Taiga, Businesswoman
t, Chief Strategic Officer
enki Chief, Security Officer
Ben Pohl, Documentation
No wonder they got only to Milestone 2 of 4! (Not unlike other firms we know.) And like dot-coms, they had no problem raising the initial investment. And they got good buzz. Not a bad parallel!
Now if only they can figure out how to string the story along some more, maybe they can make some real money!
A brilliant fun idea. Oh, and like dot-coms I bet it started fun and got really damn stressful at the end.
--LP
Since their site is a movabletype blog, there's not much there except uninteresting prattle. But hey, never is much of any substance at dotcom web sites anyway.
"Who are in control, they are not in control of anything - they don't even control themselves!" - Glen Beck
In the DotCom era someone devoting and actual working 24 Hr period to concept design and deployment is MUCH MORE than I swear some companies did back then, and Im sure they didnt make the FATAL dotcom mistake of changing their business model 9 times a month, hey they only had 24 hrs, so maybe 2 changes..........
and so is their website from looks of things.
Wonder what would happen if you added the dozomo search site to its self???
Conan says:
(...in the year 2000......): 18:59:30 Run out of cash
(...in the year 2004......): 18:59:30 Take the cash and run
Sigs are bad for your health.
They must be making heaps and heaps of profit already. What was the last business you saw that publicly announced on their website (and i quote):
;)
"No more investments, please! Stop sending us money!"
Unless they're trying to drive up their market value
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Won't this process take months and such to be a real legal entity?. I don't see how they are selling shares of whatever without fully incorporating and such before hand.
Sunny Dubey
They're selling it now. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item =5501731095
Seriously, it looks like a fun project, but I'm not sure whether their security expert is earning his valuable stock ;) Hopefully this comment will cause the value of current investors shares to plummet... it's just like the old dot com days, or being Darl McBride.
SCO Search World's Greatest Search Engine!
Aliases: sco, linux, cocksmokingteabaggers
Stand clear of the doors. The doors are now closing.
The current price is $51:
IPO on EBay
//Wegge
Didn't take me half as long to build a profitable porn site.
Not bad for 24hrs work!!! :-)
Auction Page
My Stack Overflow user
How does the story not include an e-Bay auction link!
Current bid is $434. Remaining bidding time is 2 days 22 hours. The dotcom is dozomo.com, but the site does not appear to exist.
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- - You can't take something off the Internet! That's like trying to take pee out of a swimming pool.
Seems exceedingly lame to me, given the Google toolbar, Firefox search box and keymarks, other meta-search engines, etc. Too bad, when I first read the term "internet command line" I thought it was going to be something much cooler.
BTW the search engines supported are user submitted and it is already being spammed with junk. Ha!
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http://24hdc.com/dozomo16-9.mov Halfway in, he breaks out laughing.
...2 second dotfailure...So, who wants to report to fuckedcompany.com first? :)
Somebody please overbid me!
0x or or snor perron?!
Perhaps my recent journal entry can help explain why full white is not a good color for surfaces intended to emulate paper.
May we never see th
I paid 11USD for 1%. I am now:
1) Spending all my spare time watching ebay
2) a major shareholder in an internet technology company.
Jeez, it's great fun, for the price of seeing some crap american film.
These guys did it in only 107 minutes.
Gotta start moving at webspeed, folks.
Goto the main site and click on the Supported Engines link.
Looks like Mr. Goatse.cx has already found an exploit and made his presence known.
"Waiter... there's a sphincter in my Zope"
-- Stu
/. ID under 2,000. I feel old now.
This reminds me of the short story "Slow Tuesday night" by RA Lafferty where careers and fortunes are made and lost in the course of a day. It's worth a read when society seems to move too fast.
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Haven't seen this posted yet, my apologizes if it already has. They recently added a Dozomo trailer movie, /. gets a few mentions:
"So we still own 51% of this company, so we have the control still. We managed to stop the last investor, who, ah, came from Slashdot like many many more."
"We had some great, great people working on this for these 24 hours, I want to thank all these people. I also want to thank you, ah, you know, supporting us, being on IRC, doing your thing, writing all the funny comments on Slashdot, ah, blogging this thing."
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These people have way too much time on their hands - and too little to put in them.
Prohibited and Restricted Items > Stocks and Other Securities
The U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission regulates the sale of stocks and other security interests that represent a current investment ownership interest in an entity, and efforts by individuals to raise money or find investors for businesses. Such regulations place substantial restrictions on an individual's ability to sell such items on the Internet through eBay, and therefore eBay does not permit the sale of "securities" on its site. Examples of items not allowed on eBay:
- All stocks, bonds, and investment interests in any entity or property, including but not limited to corporations or partnerships, other than the exceptions permitted below for cancelled certificates and single-share gifts.
- Credit (for example, you may not sell $1000 in credit to a buyer).
- Solicitations to invest money in any business venture.
- Any portion of an ongoing business.
- 100% of any ongoing business if the sale involves a transfer of any stock in that business.
- Documentation that represents proof of a current investment interest in any entity.
- Notes (except as specifically permitted under our Real Estate Rules).
Some business related items are not "securities" and may be listed on eBay. Examples of items that can be sold:- 100% of the assets of a business (inventory, lease, good will) where no transfer of stock is involved.
- Information about how to start a business.
- Any sale of inventory, leases, fixtures.
- "Turn key" businesses such as vending machines, windshield repair kits, and breathalyzyer machines.
- Tools used for a business, such as silk screening machines, photo mug equipment, business card makers.
- Websites or domain names.
- Old or collectible stock certificates, provided that such stock certificates are cancelled or represent an interest in an entity that no longer legally exists.
- Single-share stock certificates marketed for gift purposes rather than investment purposes, provided that the certificates are marked and advertised as non-transferable, the ownership is not transferred into the name of the purchaser, and the minimum sale price is more than twice the current exchange trading price of the underlying single share security.
Wonder how this will come out!Google the rest of them. Quite a motley crew they have there.
Note that they're selling their whole company, not just shares of it, which the language you've quoted would seem to permit:
And yes, IANAL.
the front page says :
"To search allmusic for "Miles Davis", just type "allmusic Miles Davis"."
so, being a nice customer, i just typed "allmusic Miles Davis" and hit enter ... surprise, surprise .. i got www.google.de .. other searches seem to work, though
now, the code and the whole the ideea may not be that bad, especially if one considers they only had 24h ... but it looks like the designers were smokin a bit too much ... and mommy phoned the tester to come home and take the garbage out
anyway, congrats to the whole team .
"There is nothing more frightful than ignorance in action." Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
You might consider capitalizing "German" next time. I'm not German, and I can't say that I like that country, because I met a German once, and he was a jerk, but please be a little more respectful next time, and put a capital letter where it belongs. They make good beer.
(Come on, jump on me for stereotyping an entire people based on one experience with one individual, but then, I'm not here to please anybody, and besides, look up the term sarcasm you insensitive clod.)
It looks like the Ebay price is now above the valuation implied by the initial stock sale!
Specifically, 1% of the company at $11 USD implies a valuation of $1,100 for the company. And Ebay now values the company at $1,225.00, with 18 hours to go in the auction.
So as per dot-com tradition, it looks like the IPO did in fact flip at a higher price than the pre-market investors paid!
(Although I don't quite know how/if pre-IPO investors cash out with this pseudo-IPO... And we'll have to follow over a longer time-frame how the post-IPO investors do... let's hope its better than your standard dot-com. But hey, by IPO-ing, these guys are already way ahead of most dot-coms that ever existed, right?!)
The ebay auction ended with the dozomo.com's 24-hour dot-com firm being sold for $2,026.00.
"Oldschool" HTML pages, without any fancy stuff or graphics look better on a grey background. This is probably due to nostalga for "the way things used to be" back when I started surfing the web aboud a decade ago.
So I have IE set to default to grey. I like it. Once in a while, you'll come across a page that the designer had expected a white background.
Also, as a matter of fact, IE does not default to white, it defaults to the "Window" color specified in display properties. Certan people with goofy color schemes in windows will also have problems.
autopr0n is like, down and stuff.