Well, the furthest objects we can observe are some 13 billion light years away. Creationists think the world was created 6000 years ago. In order for that to be true, the speed of light must have been much higher in order to observe something so far away. This indicates, as creationists often claim, that the speed of light is changing, i.e slowing down. What speed does electrons in a PC move at?
I've never understood why uneducated people wants to defend themselves. I guess they have seen too many court shows on TV and think they are a stellar lawyer.
Think about it, is he going to do surgery on himself too? When you, an uneducated dufus, defend yourself in court, the chance of loosing is 100%.
And can someone explain what is bad with a naked body? Typical religious bullshit. Nudity is not bad, we are all naked. Violence is bad, nudity is good.
Well, only in USA could could a creation museum be created. Why? Because if how religious this country is and how dumb most people are. If you believe in this bullshit, then explain how you can use a PC. If any of the creation shit was true, a PC would not be possible since the speed of light would have been changing and as such, a PC would fail.
Not to mention the flood is not possible nor did it happen. There is not a single geological evidence to support a global flood, not to mention it would have cover Mt. Everest, over 29000 feet of water in 40 days (960 hours) and it would have rained approx. 30 feet per hour. That's not rain, but hydraulic mining. >br>
This museum is an insult to everyone who are involved in science in some form, it's an insult to all logical and thinking people. This is only attractive to mindless religious idiots.
You see... Claiming the 2nd amendment is in order to overthrow the government is just a joke. Not a single gun owner has the balls, it's just used as an excuse.I have a friend at work who always carried (Florida is even more crazy) and claimed it was for protection. He shut up the day I took his gun away when I shook his hands. He's been quiet now for over a year!
The 2nd amendment has become a HUGE joke, if this government isn't a 2nd amendment situation, not a single US government ever will be.
And while they run around with their guns, they continue to chant "USA #1! Ra ra ra ra" while the country is sliding faster and faster down all statistics and when you point that out, they only claim that the stats is wrong! yeah, This is such a dumb country!
George? Is that you? Didn't know you posted on/. Do you understand any of the articles, George?
The funny part is that the only opponents of global climate change are American right wingers. Why? Is it ideology and not science who tells you what is right? The more you talk to American right wingers, the easier it is to understand why they are so damn dumb.
Yes, 18 is a ridiculously high age of consent, where I come from it's 15 and there are no problems with it at all.
Whoever marked my previous post as troll should know it's not an attempt to troll. Here in Florida were I now live, many places have laws that regulates where a sex offender can live and it basically is not anywhere.
It basically matches what the Jews had to go through in Germany prior to WWII and it has become a hype beyond comprehension here in the US. And we now have electronic marking of sex offenders and soon they will have to bear special marks or to live in special areas (camps) for sex offenders. They are indeed the new Jews.
Ahhh yes... Sex offenders.. the new Jews... And soon they will have to have a symbol, clearly visible on their clothes, that shows they are a sex offender. Somehow the picture of a yellow David star springs to mind...
We are circular? that's news to me. We are also elliptical around the sun.
The only problem I see, is space travel. It's a long long long way to the nearest exoplanet and we will probably never be able to travel that far thanks to the laws of the universe.
There are no socialistic countries, but you probably knew that, didn't you. Not a single socialistic one, not one. If you think there is one, please post the definition of socialistic and then why you think that country is one.
I'm a climate refugees, when you get older (I'm close to 50) snow and cold weather is not too fun anymore, so I switched skis with golf clubs. Btw, I started playing golf as a little kid in 1969 in what you call socialistic Norway.
All the Scandinavian countries change between social democrats and conservative prime Ministers.
All of them has a very healthy mix of the best from socialism and from capitalism. As a Norwegian, I should know, I made a fortune in the 70's and 80's on oil and computers and I'm now more or less retired here in Florida. Socialistic! LOL! You have no clue!
All the Scandinavian countries have a huge private business and some state run, but very few compared to what is owned by shareholders.
For your information, there are no socialistic European countries, none.
And I was in Berlin during the fall of the Berlin wall. I celebrated my birthday there with chipping away and I have a few bits of it. DDR no longer exists and they were not socialistic either, they were a dictatorship in case you don't know.
No, as in why go to all the unecessary wars USA have and which they also have lost and now is loosing in Iraq and Afghanistan. Why?
What is so grand about sending tour countries young men and women to some shithole to get killed? I'll tell you why! So Cheney and his likes can fatten their bankaccounts with some serious tax money. man, you people are retarded! Do you even know how much of your tax money goes to the military? And how much these assholes skim from you?
I find it barbaric to measure a countrys worth based on wars they have won. I personally base a countrys worth on what they offer the citizens and how little crime, esp violent crime the country has, access to health care, access to higher education, How they punish their own citizens etc. And when it comes to all of those, USA is pretty far down on any lists. It looks more like a banana republic than a 1st world country and yes, I have lived and worked here for over a decade and I have lived and worked in several other countries too. If I wasn't white with a good education from a top 50 university working in a 6 figure job and living in a climatically great area, I would not have been here.
I'm not French either, but when you use the French revolution against them, it is too dumb to take seriously. USA has not exactly been stellar when it comes to winning wars alone in the past either and it certainly have had zero luck in Iraq and Afghanistan, mostly because your leaders have zero clue about how to handle them. You have basically been shown that the US military machine is a waste of money and it will not be able to achieve anything in the world we currently live in. So, continue to spend a good portion of your tax money on the military, err on the fat cats running the armament industry. USA is slowly becoming a 3rd world society with a 1st world economy/military.
Most of it was in form of loans which were paid back with interest. Get your facts right.
And nothing has changed in the world since 1945, right? France was instrumental in securing USA as am independent country. I think that action is far more interesting and yet, Americans hate the French while you should be kissing their ass and thank them for USA.
ROFLMAO. Another American who has no idea what socialism means and no clue about Europe and the result is mindless drivel without foothold in reality, good job.
The Flood? Well, here's how it could never happen.>br>
First- the global flood supposedly (Scripturally) covered the planet, (see that, George? If so, why are you still being so stupid?) and Mount Everest is 8,848 meters tall. The diameter of the earth at the equator, on the other hand, is 12,756.8 km. All we have to do is calculate the volume of water to fill a sphere with a radius of the Earth + Mount Everest; then we subtract the volume of a sphere with a radius of the Earth. Now, I know this won't yield a perfect result, because the Earth isn't a perfect sphere, but it will serve to give a general idea about the amounts involved.
So, here are the calculations:
First, Everest
V= 4/3 * pi * r cubed
= 4/3 * pi * 6387.248 km cubed
= 1.09151 x 10 to the 12 cubic kilometres (1.09151x102 km3)
Now, the Earth at sea level
V = 4/3 * pi * r cubed
= 4/3 * pi * 6378.4 km cubed
= 1.08698 x 10 to the 12 cubic kilometres (1.08698x1012 km3)
The difference between these two figures is the amount of water needed to just cover the Earth:
4.525 x 10 to the ninth cubic kilometres (4.525x1009 km3) Or, to put into a more sensible number, 4,525,000,000,000 cubic kilometres
This is one helluva lot of water.
For those who think it might come from the polar ice caps, please don't forget that water is more dense than ice, and thus that the volume of ice present in those ice caps would have to be more than the volume of water necessary.
Some interesting physical effects of all that water, too. How much weight do you think that is? Well, water at STP weighs in at 1 gram/cubic centimetre (by definition)...so,
4.252x1009 km3 of water,
X 106 (= cubic meters),
X 106 (= cubic centimetres),
X 1 g/cm3 (= grams),
X 10-3 (= kilograms),
(turn the crank)
equals 4.525E+21 kg .
Ever wonder what the effects of that much weight would be? Well, many times in the near past (i.e., the Pleistocene), continental ice sheets covered many of the northern states and most all of Canada. For the sake of argument, let's call the area covered by the Wisconsinian advance (the latest and greatest) was 10,000,000,000 (ten million) km2, by an average thickness of 1 km of ice (a good estimate...it was thicker in some areas [the zones of accumulation] and much thinner elsewhere [at the ablating edges]). Now, 1.00x1007 km2 X 1 km thickness equals 1.00E+07 km3 of ice.
Now, remember earlier that we noted that it would take 4.525x1009 km3 of water for the flood? Well, looking at the Wisconsinian glaciation, all that ice (which is frozen water, remember?) would be precisely 0.222% [...do the math](that's zero decimal two hundred twenty two thousandths) percent of the water needed for the flood.
Well, the Wisconsinian glacial stade ended about 25,000 YBP (years before present), as compared for the approximately supposedly 4,000 YBP flood event.
Due to these late Pleistocene glaciations (some 21,000 years preceding the supposed flood), the mass of the ice has actually depressed the crust of the Earth. That crust, now that the ice is gone, is slowly rising (called glacial rebound); and this rebound can be measured, in places (like northern Wisconsin), in centimetres/year. Sea level was also lowered some 10's of meters due to the very finite amount of water in the Earth's hydrosphere being locked up in glacial ice sheets (geologists call this glacioeustacy).
Now, glacial rebound can only be measured, obviously, in glaciated terranes, i.e., the Sahara is not rebounding as it was not glaciated during the Pleistocene. This lack of rebound is noted by laser ranged interferometery and satellite geodesy [so there], as well as by geomorphology. Glacial striae on bedrock, eskers, tills, moraines, rouche moutenees, drumlins, kame and kettle topography, fjords, deranged fluvial drainage and erratic blocks all betray a glacier's passage. Needless to say, these geomorphological expressions are not f
Baahh.. You are an atheist just like me, it's just that I believe in 1 less god than you do. You are atheist when it comes to every god except the christian god.
Maybe you can tell me why God hates amputees? There is not a single amputee who had had a limb regrown after prayer even though your bible says you can pray for anything and you will get it, ANYTHING!
Just because you allow a criminal and corrupt government to continue, doesn't mean that every government in the world is the same shit as you have. My homecountry has always had decent governments, no matter political flavor, who has done the best for the people and currently they have several hundred billions of dollars stashed away in pension funds that will benefit the people rather than a few already very rich people.
A libertarian society is the most vile and inhumane society you can imagine which is also why none such exists.
Me? LOL, no... I have a company that handles my fortune and my investments... You see.. I made a huge fortune on oil and computers in what many calls socialist Norway even if nothing is further from the truth. Now I enjoy the weather and golf here in Florida...
Well... 99% of US businesses would be violating laws in my home country, Norway. On all areas, marketing, pricing, service, warranties etc. Why? Simply because the laws require honesty and has clear regulations as to what is allowed, what the companies obligations to their customers are etc. I haven't seen many TV commercials during my 10+ years here in the US that would have been allowed back home.
In USA, the customer is without rights in most cases and the corporations can do what the heck they want. Not to mention they can tell you lies without consequences. Example: The stupid commercial fro free credit reports. $30 or more per month is the cost for those "free" reports. Free, my ass.
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Well, the furthest objects we can observe are some 13 billion light years away. Creationists think the world was created 6000 years ago. In order for that to be true, the speed of light must have been much higher in order to observe something so far away. This indicates, as creationists often claim, that the speed of light is changing, i.e slowing down. What speed does electrons in a PC move at?
I've never understood why uneducated people wants to defend themselves. I guess they have seen too many court shows on TV and think they are a stellar lawyer.
Think about it, is he going to do surgery on himself too? When you, an uneducated dufus, defend yourself in court, the chance of loosing is 100%.
And can someone explain what is bad with a naked body? Typical religious bullshit. Nudity is not bad, we are all naked. Violence is bad, nudity is good.
Well, only in USA could could a creation museum be created. Why? Because if how religious this country is and how dumb most people are. If you believe in this bullshit, then explain how you can use a PC. If any of the creation shit was true, a PC would not be possible since the speed of light would have been changing and as such, a PC would fail.
Not to mention the flood is not possible nor did it happen. There is not a single geological evidence to support a global flood, not to mention it would have cover Mt. Everest, over 29000 feet of water in 40 days (960 hours) and it would have rained approx. 30 feet per hour. That's not rain, but hydraulic mining.
>br> This museum is an insult to everyone who are involved in science in some form, it's an insult to all logical and thinking people. This is only attractive to mindless religious idiots.
You see... Claiming the 2nd amendment is in order to overthrow the government is just a joke. Not a single gun owner has the balls, it's just used as an excuse.I have a friend at work who always carried (Florida is even more crazy) and claimed it was for protection. He shut up the day I took his gun away when I shook his hands. He's been quiet now for over a year!
The 2nd amendment has become a HUGE joke, if this government isn't a 2nd amendment situation, not a single US government ever will be.
And while they run around with their guns, they continue to chant "USA #1! Ra ra ra ra" while the country is sliding faster and faster down all statistics and when you point that out, they only claim that the stats is wrong! yeah, This is such a dumb country!
American censorship is rampant. There are no censors where I come from and you can say any word you want on TV and Radio. What's the big deal?
George? Is that you? Didn't know you posted on /. Do you understand any of the articles, George?
The funny part is that the only opponents of global climate change are American right wingers. Why? Is it ideology and not science who tells you what is right? The more you talk to American right wingers, the easier it is to understand why they are so damn dumb.
Chances are that you have neither a big dick nor a longer ring finger.
My dick is exactly 3 times longer than my ring finger and I have long fingers!
Yes, 18 is a ridiculously high age of consent, where I come from it's 15 and there are no problems with it at all.
Whoever marked my previous post as troll should know it's not an attempt to troll. Here in Florida were I now live, many places have laws that regulates where a sex offender can live and it basically is not anywhere.
It basically matches what the Jews had to go through in Germany prior to WWII and it has become a hype beyond comprehension here in the US. And we now have electronic marking of sex offenders and soon they will have to bear special marks or to live in special areas (camps) for sex offenders. They are indeed the new Jews.
Ahhh yes... Sex offenders.. the new Jews... And soon they will have to have a symbol, clearly visible on their clothes, that shows they are a sex offender. Somehow the picture of a yellow David star springs to mind...
Well, I guess it's just like living next door to a bank doesn't make you a millionaire, close to circular doesn't make it circular...
We are circular? that's news to me. We are also elliptical around the sun.
The only problem I see, is space travel. It's a long long long way to the nearest exoplanet and we will probably never be able to travel that far thanks to the laws of the universe.
There are no socialistic countries, but you probably knew that, didn't you. Not a single socialistic one, not one. If you think there is one, please post the definition of socialistic and then why you think that country is one.
I'm a climate refugees, when you get older (I'm close to 50) snow and cold weather is not too fun anymore, so I switched skis with golf clubs. Btw, I started playing golf as a little kid in 1969 in what you call socialistic Norway.
All the Scandinavian countries change between social democrats and conservative prime Ministers.
All of them has a very healthy mix of the best from socialism and from capitalism. As a Norwegian, I should know, I made a fortune in the 70's and 80's on oil and computers and I'm now more or less retired here in Florida. Socialistic! LOL! You have no clue!
All the Scandinavian countries have a huge private business and some state run, but very few compared to what is owned by shareholders.
For your information, there are no socialistic European countries, none.
And I was in Berlin during the fall of the Berlin wall. I celebrated my birthday there with chipping away and I have a few bits of it. DDR no longer exists and they were not socialistic either, they were a dictatorship in case you don't know.
No, as in why go to all the unecessary wars USA have and which they also have lost and now is loosing in Iraq and Afghanistan. Why? What is so grand about sending tour countries young men and women to some shithole to get killed? I'll tell you why! So Cheney and his likes can fatten their bankaccounts with some serious tax money. man, you people are retarded! Do you even know how much of your tax money goes to the military? And how much these assholes skim from you?
Why is winning wars important to you?
I find it barbaric to measure a countrys worth based on wars they have won. I personally base a countrys worth on what they offer the citizens and how little crime, esp violent crime the country has, access to health care, access to higher education, How they punish their own citizens etc. And when it comes to all of those, USA is pretty far down on any lists. It looks more like a banana republic than a 1st world country and yes, I have lived and worked here for over a decade and I have lived and worked in several other countries too. If I wasn't white with a good education from a top 50 university working in a 6 figure job and living in a climatically great area, I would not have been here.
I'm not French either, but when you use the French revolution against them, it is too dumb to take seriously. USA has not exactly been stellar when it comes to winning wars alone in the past either and it certainly have had zero luck in Iraq and Afghanistan, mostly because your leaders have zero clue about how to handle them. You have basically been shown that the US military machine is a waste of money and it will not be able to achieve anything in the world we currently live in. So, continue to spend a good portion of your tax money on the military, err on the fat cats running the armament industry. USA is slowly becoming a 3rd world society with a 1st world economy/military.
Most of it was in form of loans which were paid back with interest. Get your facts right.
And nothing has changed in the world since 1945, right? France was instrumental in securing USA as am independent country. I think that action is far more interesting and yet, Americans hate the French while you should be kissing their ass and thank them for USA.
"Socialist Europe"
ROFLMAO. Another American who has no idea what socialism means and no clue about Europe and the result is mindless drivel without foothold in reality, good job.
The Flood? Well, here's how it could never happen.>br>
First- the global flood supposedly (Scripturally) covered the planet, (see that, George? If so, why are you still being so stupid?) and Mount Everest is 8,848 meters tall. The diameter of the earth at the equator, on the other hand, is 12,756.8 km. All we have to do is calculate the volume of water to fill a sphere with a radius of the Earth + Mount Everest; then we subtract the volume of a sphere with a radius of the Earth. Now, I know this won't yield a perfect result, because the Earth isn't a perfect sphere, but it will serve to give a general idea about the amounts involved.
So, here are the calculations:
First, Everest
V= 4/3 * pi * r cubed
= 4/3 * pi * 6387.248 km cubed
= 1.09151 x 10 to the 12 cubic kilometres (1.09151x102 km3)
Now, the Earth at sea level
V = 4/3 * pi * r cubed
= 4/3 * pi * 6378.4 km cubed
= 1.08698 x 10 to the 12 cubic kilometres (1.08698x1012 km3)
The difference between these two figures is the amount of water needed to just cover the Earth:
4.525 x 10 to the ninth cubic kilometres (4.525x1009 km3) Or, to put into a more sensible number, 4,525,000,000,000 cubic kilometres
This is one helluva lot of water.
For those who think it might come from the polar ice caps, please don't forget that water is more dense than ice, and thus that the volume of ice present in those ice caps would have to be more than the volume of water necessary.
Some interesting physical effects of all that water, too. How much weight do you think that is? Well, water at STP weighs in at 1 gram/cubic centimetre (by definition)...so,
4.252x1009 km3 of water,
X 106 (= cubic meters),
X 106 (= cubic centimetres),
X 1 g/cm3 (= grams),
X 10-3 (= kilograms),
(turn the crank)
equals 4.525E+21 kg
. Ever wonder what the effects of that much weight would be? Well, many times in the near past (i.e., the Pleistocene), continental ice sheets covered many of the northern states and most all of Canada. For the sake of argument, let's call the area covered by the Wisconsinian advance (the latest and greatest) was 10,000,000,000 (ten million) km2, by an average thickness of 1 km of ice (a good estimate...it was thicker in some areas [the zones of accumulation] and much thinner elsewhere [at the ablating edges]). Now, 1.00x1007 km2 X 1 km thickness equals 1.00E+07 km3 of ice.
Now, remember earlier that we noted that it would take 4.525x1009 km3 of water for the flood? Well, looking at the Wisconsinian glaciation, all that ice (which is frozen water, remember?) would be precisely 0.222% [...do the math](that's zero decimal two hundred twenty two thousandths) percent of the water needed for the flood.
Well, the Wisconsinian glacial stade ended about 25,000 YBP (years before present), as compared for the approximately supposedly 4,000 YBP flood event.
Due to these late Pleistocene glaciations (some 21,000 years preceding the supposed flood), the mass of the ice has actually depressed the crust of the Earth. That crust, now that the ice is gone, is slowly rising (called glacial rebound); and this rebound can be measured, in places (like northern Wisconsin), in centimetres/year. Sea level was also lowered some 10's of meters due to the very finite amount of water in the Earth's hydrosphere being locked up in glacial ice sheets (geologists call this glacioeustacy).
Now, glacial rebound can only be measured, obviously, in glaciated terranes, i.e., the Sahara is not rebounding as it was not glaciated during the Pleistocene. This lack of rebound is noted by laser ranged interferometery and satellite geodesy [so there], as well as by geomorphology. Glacial striae on bedrock, eskers, tills, moraines, rouche moutenees, drumlins, kame and kettle topography, fjords, deranged fluvial drainage and erratic blocks all betray a glacier's passage. Needless to say, these geomorphological expressions are not f
Baahh.. You are an atheist just like me, it's just that I believe in 1 less god than you do. You are atheist when it comes to every god except the christian god.
Maybe you can tell me why God hates amputees? There is not a single amputee who had had a limb regrown after prayer even though your bible says you can pray for anything and you will get it, ANYTHING!
Just because you allow a criminal and corrupt government to continue, doesn't mean that every government in the world is the same shit as you have. My homecountry has always had decent governments, no matter political flavor, who has done the best for the people and currently they have several hundred billions of dollars stashed away in pension funds that will benefit the people rather than a few already very rich people.
A libertarian society is the most vile and inhumane society you can imagine which is also why none such exists.
My first hard disk was an external 5Mb box for Osborne 1, it was a HUGE step up from single sided 5.25" 92Kb single sided floppies.
Me? LOL, no... I have a company that handles my fortune and my investments... You see.. I made a huge fortune on oil and computers in what many calls socialist Norway even if nothing is further from the truth. Now I enjoy the weather and golf here in Florida...
Well... 99% of US businesses would be violating laws in my home country, Norway. On all areas, marketing, pricing, service, warranties etc. Why? Simply because the laws require honesty and has clear regulations as to what is allowed, what the companies obligations to their customers are etc. I haven't seen many TV commercials during my 10+ years here in the US that would have been allowed back home.
In USA, the customer is without rights in most cases and the corporations can do what the heck they want. Not to mention they can tell you lies without consequences. Example: The stupid commercial fro free credit reports. $30 or more per month is the cost for those "free" reports. Free, my ass.
Left to the private sector? ROFLMAO!
The private sector are the spammers, why would you give them control? Stupid libertots.