Yep, I half-knew that while writing the above comment. I wasn’t exactly sure. But since the non-windchill temperature still is below that dry ice point... Thank you for reminding me.:)
but studies consistently demonstrate that users oscillate between "don't know" and "don't care" about those, so that isn't much comfort.
Well, there is a natural process that stops that behavior very quickly. It’s called natural selection. It forces people to either wise up and care, or be weeded out very quickly.
But as long as we add additional layers of idiot protection bubble wrap, we deliberately hinder this process. And then we whine that people act that way. They only act efficient in the situation that is around them. If they don’t need to care and know, why should they? It’s thrown away resources. You are gonna do it for them anyway. Any you nicely respond to the screams of being entitled to it too. They are neither dumb nor ignorant. It simply is a comfortable strategy for them.
It has gotten so bad, that when you treat people normal and fair, instead of doing the above, you are labeled asocial. To add insult to injury, those labeling you this way, are themselves asocial by unfairly treating those “protected people” preferentially with that above assistance.
The core thing is, that people usually help others, because that indirectly helps everything, including themselves. It’s a model with an incredible success, especially for humans. And it’s good that way. But above problem comes from taking this behavior too far. Into regions where it’s hurting us all instead.
So the best thing to do, is the counter-intuitive behavior, of simply letting them feel the consequences of their behavior a bit. So they can learn to cope with it themselves. If you don’t want to be a dick, you do this slowly, so they can keep up. Instead of letting them fall in a hole when you go away. Maybe they lose a little money, or get a shock that is big enough to remember this for the next time.
And you will see, that after a time, natural selection and their (to that point unused) extreme intelligence will solve the thing in no time.:)
but you can't fool all of the people all of the time
Alone, this statement is bullshit, as it has no explaining basis attached. Let’s do that: You can not fool all the people all the time, as long as there are gray areas between 1 and 0 in neural networks in human brains, because they cause a Gaussian distribution curve. (In this case a series of them over time.) And as long as there is always a part of the curve that is far enough outside that the amount of being fooled is closer to zero. Experience suggests that this is nearly always the case, but can not rule out the unlikely exception.
Especially since “all the time” does not mean “until the end of the universe“, but just enough to reach your goal.
Additionally since minorities can be below the power to change things, despite not being fooled, this gives you a pretty good chance to fool enough people for a long enough time, to do what you want to do. By “skating” in the center of the “wave” (sequence of curves over time).
Also it only requires one “sucker”, similar to how it only requires one cracker to make something (software, a protected room, etc) available to everybody.
But luckily, you can also use fooling in the opposite (good) way, to counteract the fooling. The only problem is, that that only works if you got just as little scruple and can cheat and lie just as well (in the name of good). Which unfortunately is nearly never the case.
There you have it: Do you have the scruple to ruin a pretty good chance to fool all the people all the time?
Simply make sure that you only have one tab open that you created in a empty session. TabMix Plus’s advanced session manager can make that very easy, even if you have lots of tabs open that you want to keep. (And that should be a bookmarks folder instead! Instead of a tab mess.)
Actually, according to someone posting above, who worked as a chemist in the industry, that’s still more than three times the price that production actually costs. ($30 a gallon.)
Actually that isn’t true anymore, since getting the oil out of the ground has become so hard, that they were actually underselling oil back before the price went up so much in the USA. The USA was by far the largest customer, and with added bribing they could force the Saudis to sell it while making a loss for the country. But then China came, and said that when the US isn’t buying it, they will. So the Saudis then could tell the USA to either pay the proper price of GTFO.
Essentially, the price didn’t go up from normal. It went up to normal. From being way too low. Or why do you think gas was so expensive in e.g. Europe?
Nowadays oil is actually centrifuged out of sand. (A very abrasive process.) Nice fountains out of the ground... that’s over. (Well, OK, except for the US offshore fuck-up.;)
It’s called the color laser printer. Much more reliable technology. Much cheaper per page. Looks better. And they are not much cheaper than a color ink printer. There is no reason for ink printers anymore. At all. The only reason they still are bought is because of stupid people being so cheap that it becomes more expensive again for them.
Like those who rather buy $10 shirts again and again that fall apart after 3 uses, than 100$ ones that last for a decade.
Why is it then, that others manage do produce just as good ink for $5 a 100ml bottle? Hm? No. The quality is not worse! Now imagine what they would be able to produce for your, what, $40 for what, 30ml? I bet it would be some super-ink that NASA thinks is to advanced to explain to our new Alien visitors, as they only got advanced warp 10 tunneling.:P
Same thing as with the MAFIAA: Your business model is fucked up. And that fucked up your market. And you got only yourself to blame for it. Accept our terms ($5 a 100ml bottle) or fuck off. We don’t need you. Another company will fill your void an days.
You forgot, that not all people are cattle that do whatever they are being told. What gave you the idea people would care about a dick screaming “stop it” because of his stupid little brain twist?
And your doubts are highly wrong. Slashdotters are no idiots. If you rely on copyright you live in a delusional fantasy world. Because there is no such thing as “owning information”. It can not be owned, protected, or stolen. Those are concepts of meatspace. Bitspace is not meatspace. It has different physics. If your business relies on playing the smoke-and-mirrors fantasy game called “selling software”, then you fail at life, logic and everything, and your company deserves to die. Live in reality! Is that so hard?
Yes there is. Those temperatures have been observed on the south pole. (Read a report about a team that did stay “overnight” [= over winter]) And that doesn’t even include the windchill effect. Which can make it feel like a horrible -140C. A temperature that literally smacks you in the face so hard you fall over backwards. A temperature that lets your breath crackle and freeze before it lands on the floor. A temperature where pissing in the snow may make you impotent trough freezing the inside of your penis all the way. Yes, there you might find some dry ice... (e.g. the one that you just did breath out.) But good luck finding it in nothing but endless planes of real actual ice.;)
Good luck compiling GHC then. Or running a couple of big Java programs. Or both. Plus a virtual machine.
I have seen RAM usage go up to 8GB and beyond. I don’t have 8GB. So I’m happy to still be able to do it at all.
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Hmm... That’s exactly how Star Trek (the last film) felt to me... or rather was.
The red matter thing was just an epic failure: ONE drop kills an entire planet, yes? Allright, but Spock flies a ship with a HUGE ball of that stuff on a collision course into a ship in a time vortex, and the Enterprise crew does not even blink? Let alone panic like the universe were about to end. Which, to be consistent with the rest of the story, is exactly what this would have resulted in. Or the words of the fifth element: Boom. Bada... boom! BIG bada-boom!
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like a recent ex-virgin wondering about what the hell just happened.
That’s a analogy that won’t get you any understanding around here.;)
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Frankly, I second that is is sad.
But in general.
If you look at IMDB, you always see this pattern: 1. People rating it at 8-10 stars, for being an intelligent masterpiece of a movie. 2. People rating it at <5 stars because “it makes no sense, and is boring and stupid”.
I noticed this when I was watching films with friends. The ones who did not get the story and all the nuances, were the ones who said it made no sense. And because they did not get the story, obviously it was boring to them (while others, including me, could not sit still from the tension). The really dumb ones called it “stupid”. It was all the analysis they were able to manage.
But if the film itself was dumb and primitive, that dumber group would love it. While we were just shaking our heads because of the obvious stupidity.
First I thought: Well, maybe it’s just that people have different tastes. But I noticed a difference: Intelligent people watching dumb movies *did* understand them perfectly. But the movie made no sense. Dumb people watching intelligent films thought it made no sense. But that’s because they did not understand them! I tested this, by asking questions about the story and its nuances.
Now of course I wasn’t free from this. For example, I did not get Primer at all. So it felt boring. But I don’t go and say that a movie is crap, because of my inabilities.
And I think it is very sad that movies and shows are made dumb so dumb people can enjoy them. Especially since the are usually too dumb to doubt themselves, and hence are so sure of themselves, that they are the loudest to proclaim their stupid opinions. Being dumb should not be enjoyable. It should create motivation to do something about it, and bring your brain to its full potential.
After all it’s pretty much proven, that the only difference between an idiot and a genius, is the level of (self-)motivation. There is no such thing as a dumb person. There only is a person that grew up in a bad environment and now is used to that level of mental underperformance.
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Yep, I half-knew that while writing the above comment. I wasn’t exactly sure. But since the non-windchill temperature still is below that dry ice point... :)
Thank you for reminding me.
but studies consistently demonstrate that users oscillate between "don't know" and "don't care" about those, so that isn't much comfort.
Well, there is a natural process that stops that behavior very quickly. It’s called natural selection. It forces people to either wise up and care, or be weeded out very quickly.
But as long as we add additional layers of idiot protection bubble wrap, we deliberately hinder this process. And then we whine that people act that way.
They only act efficient in the situation that is around them. If they don’t need to care and know, why should they? It’s thrown away resources. You are gonna do it for them anyway. Any you nicely respond to the screams of being entitled to it too.
They are neither dumb nor ignorant. It simply is a comfortable strategy for them.
It has gotten so bad, that when you treat people normal and fair, instead of doing the above, you are labeled asocial. To add insult to injury, those labeling you this way, are themselves asocial by unfairly treating those “protected people” preferentially with that above assistance.
The core thing is, that people usually help others, because that indirectly helps everything, including themselves. It’s a model with an incredible success, especially for humans. And it’s good that way.
But above problem comes from taking this behavior too far. Into regions where it’s hurting us all instead.
So the best thing to do, is the counter-intuitive behavior, of simply letting them feel the consequences of their behavior a bit. So they can learn to cope with it themselves.
If you don’t want to be a dick, you do this slowly, so they can keep up. Instead of letting them fall in a hole when you go away.
Maybe they lose a little money, or get a shock that is big enough to remember this for the next time.
And you will see, that after a time, natural selection and their (to that point unused) extreme intelligence will solve the thing in no time. :)
but you can't fool all of the people all of the time
Alone, this statement is bullshit, as it has no explaining basis attached. Let’s do that:
You can not fool all the people all the time, as long as there are gray areas between 1 and 0 in neural networks in human brains, because they cause a Gaussian distribution curve. (In this case a series of them over time.) And as long as there is always a part of the curve that is far enough outside that the amount of being fooled is closer to zero.
Experience suggests that this is nearly always the case, but can not rule out the unlikely exception.
Especially since “all the time” does not mean “until the end of the universe“, but just enough to reach your goal.
Additionally since minorities can be below the power to change things, despite not being fooled, this gives you a pretty good chance to fool enough people for a long enough time, to do what you want to do. By “skating” in the center of the “wave” (sequence of curves over time).
Also it only requires one “sucker”, similar to how it only requires one cracker to make something (software, a protected room, etc) available to everybody.
But luckily, you can also use fooling in the opposite (good) way, to counteract the fooling. The only problem is, that that only works if you got just as little scruple and can cheat and lie just as well (in the name of good). Which unfortunately is nearly never the case.
There you have it: Do you have the scruple to ruin a pretty good chance to fool all the people all the time?
Simply make sure that you only have one tab open that you created in a empty session. TabMix Plus’s advanced session manager can make that very easy, even if you have lots of tabs open that you want to keep. (And that should be a bookmarks folder instead! Instead of a tab mess.)
It’s still ass-rape, though...
Actually, according to someone posting above, who worked as a chemist in the industry, that’s still more than three times the price that production actually costs. ($30 a gallon.)
What are CDs and DVDs? Some kind of removable hard disks? Some 80s storage medium?
"Saudi Aramco explains why oil is so expensive."
Actually that isn’t true anymore, since getting the oil out of the ground has become so hard, that they were actually underselling oil back before the price went up so much in the USA.
The USA was by far the largest customer, and with added bribing they could force the Saudis to sell it while making a loss for the country. But then China came, and said that when the US isn’t buying it, they will. So the Saudis then could tell the USA to either pay the proper price of GTFO.
Essentially, the price didn’t go up from normal. It went up to normal. From being way too low. Or why do you think gas was so expensive in e.g. Europe?
Nowadays oil is actually centrifuged out of sand. (A very abrasive process.) Nice fountains out of the ground... that’s over. (Well, OK, except for the US offshore fuck-up. ;)
How do you explain this then?
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1663412&cid=32331214
It’s called the color laser printer. Much more reliable technology. Much cheaper per page. Looks better. And they are not much cheaper than a color ink printer. There is no reason for ink printers anymore. At all.
The only reason they still are bought is because of stupid people being so cheap that it becomes more expensive again for them.
Like those who rather buy $10 shirts again and again that fall apart after 3 uses, than 100$ ones that last for a decade.
Why is it then, that others manage do produce just as good ink for $5 a 100ml bottle? Hm? :P
No. The quality is not worse! Now imagine what they would be able to produce for your, what, $40 for what, 30ml? I bet it would be some super-ink that NASA thinks is to advanced to explain to our new Alien visitors, as they only got advanced warp 10 tunneling.
Same thing as with the MAFIAA: Your business model is fucked up. And that fucked up your market. And you got only yourself to blame for it. Accept our terms ($5 a 100ml bottle) or fuck off. We don’t need you. Another company will fill your void an days.
You forgot, that not all people are cattle that do whatever they are being told.
What gave you the idea people would care about a dick screaming “stop it” because of his stupid little brain twist?
Are you drunk?
No engineer ever said "I can only guarantee this part will last for 90 days" or anything like it.
Yes, they did:
90 days was how long they thought it would be until the solar panels were too coved in dust for the rover to function.
SAME THING. That is “how long it will last”
I even read a quote by some NASA guy, saying exactly that the 90 days was the time they could guarantee the panels to last in the expected dust.
And your doubts are highly wrong. Slashdotters are no idiots. If you rely on copyright you live in a delusional fantasy world. Because there is no such thing as “owning information”. It can not be owned, protected, or stolen. Those are concepts of meatspace. Bitspace is not meatspace. It has different physics.
If your business relies on playing the smoke-and-mirrors fantasy game called “selling software”, then you fail at life, logic and everything, and your company deserves to die. Live in reality! Is that so hard?
So get it right yourself, daydreamer!
Depends on what those new girls think where someone who never had sex with a woman got that herpes from in the first place... ;)
Is that some kind of Asteroids clone?
Yes there is. Those temperatures have been observed on the south pole. (Read a report about a team that did stay “overnight” [= over winter]) And that doesn’t even include the windchill effect. Which can make it feel like a horrible -140C. A temperature that literally smacks you in the face so hard you fall over backwards. A temperature that lets your breath crackle and freeze before it lands on the floor. A temperature where pissing in the snow may make you impotent trough freezing the inside of your penis all the way. ;)
Yes, there you might find some dry ice... (e.g. the one that you just did breath out.)
But good luck finding it in nothing but endless planes of real actual ice.
Hey, how can you be so heartless on those poor betrayed brave rovers, you insensitive clod! (Read the mousover. It breaks your heart.)
I hope that taco doesn’t go commander! :P
It worked on you though, didn’t it? ;)
What real life? Do you mean the Internet? I use AdBlock plus.
Just kidding. My RL ad blocker is called: looking somewhere else! (Breasts are a good recommendation! :D)
Good luck compiling GHC then. Or running a couple of big Java programs. Or both. Plus a virtual machine.
I have seen RAM usage go up to 8GB and beyond. I don’t have 8GB. So I’m happy to still be able to do it at all.
Hmm... That’s exactly how Star Trek (the last film) felt to me... or rather was.
The red matter thing was just an epic failure: ONE drop kills an entire planet, yes?
Allright, but Spock flies a ship with a HUGE ball of that stuff on a collision course into a ship in a time vortex, and the Enterprise crew does not even blink? Let alone panic like the universe were about to end. Which, to be consistent with the rest of the story, is exactly what this would have resulted in.
Or the words of the fifth element: Boom. Bada... boom! BIG bada-boom!
like a recent ex-virgin wondering about what the hell just happened.
That’s a analogy that won’t get you any understanding around here. ;)
Frankly, I second that is is sad.
But in general.
If you look at IMDB, you always see this pattern:
1. People rating it at 8-10 stars, for being an intelligent masterpiece of a movie.
2. People rating it at <5 stars because “it makes no sense, and is boring and stupid”.
I noticed this when I was watching films with friends.
The ones who did not get the story and all the nuances, were the ones who said it made no sense. And because they did not get the story, obviously it was boring to them (while others, including me, could not sit still from the tension). The really dumb ones called it “stupid”. It was all the analysis they were able to manage.
But if the film itself was dumb and primitive, that dumber group would love it. While we were just shaking our heads because of the obvious stupidity.
First I thought: Well, maybe it’s just that people have different tastes.
But I noticed a difference: Intelligent people watching dumb movies *did* understand them perfectly. But the movie made no sense.
Dumb people watching intelligent films thought it made no sense. But that’s because they did not understand them!
I tested this, by asking questions about the story and its nuances.
Now of course I wasn’t free from this. For example, I did not get Primer at all. So it felt boring.
But I don’t go and say that a movie is crap, because of my inabilities.
And I think it is very sad that movies and shows are made dumb so dumb people can enjoy them. Especially since the are usually too dumb to doubt themselves, and hence are so sure of themselves, that they are the loudest to proclaim their stupid opinions.
Being dumb should not be enjoyable. It should create motivation to do something about it, and bring your brain to its full potential.
After all it’s pretty much proven, that the only difference between an idiot and a genius, is the level of (self-)motivation. There is no such thing as a dumb person. There only is a person that grew up in a bad environment and now is used to that level of mental underperformance.