Oh, and that hot spot would be the voltage regulator (mostly to be found between the cpu and the rear ports). You recognize it by the large capacitors and small heat sinks an between them.
And it has a comical courtship behavior, where it jitters its heat sinks in a rhythmic fashion and lets its capacitors glow red to impress a possible mate.;)
Exactly. I forgot to mention that. That's why time is so important in these matters.
Of course if the corrosion was minimal, it still might work without problems. It would just get hotter because of the additional resistance. So check your heat sensors. Especially those not it the bigger chips, because these will not have been affected that much by corruption. Of course an external sensor on a on-board hot spot would be perfect, but who has that available?
If the electrolysis is worse, you'll get power fluctuations. So monitor your voltage sensors closely.
If it boots after your cleaning (and drying!), let it run for some hours, and then log heat and temperature to some non-damaged component (like a USB stick). If it still runs after a day, I think you can be safe for some time. But bear in mind that the system will behave as if it were very old and fail earlier, and back up your data (as of course you should do at all times:).
Better use distilled water. Or look up what they use in the factories to clean up the mainboards before they go out, because I read that they wash them too, and that it's not that different from your washing mashine.
My guess is, that the difference is, to not leave any traces of anything on it, and not use anything that reacts with the materials you want to keep. So use something that kills mold but nothing else, and much distilled water. Then, as others mentioned: If it looks dry, wait another couple of days!
Do not use anything with oil, strong acids/bases or alcohol.
Can anyone tell me if hydrogen peroxide is safe? Because it is a pretty good mold killer from what I heard.
Slashdot's chemists: Please correct me if I'm wrong.:)
Come on, if you start out that way, you have already lost big time. By trying to explain it, you only make things worse, and more awkward for you. Just let it go, and start with more realistic aliens in the next series. They did it with the Klingons when they went from TOS to TNG, so why not do it again and come closer and closer. With the advanced technology that we have now, the limits are gone.
I recommend aliens that do not look like anything on earth. Not even close. How about much different chemistry. But hey... most "scientists" can't even accept, that aliens would exist without using oxygen and carbon hydrates, when such lifeforms even exist in our own deep sea.
It's saddening how much average people lack fantasy.
All "modern" government systems (democracy, communism, you name it), or in fact, all government systems until now, had one giant elephant of a problem sitting right there in the middle of the room: There are humans governing others.
Now continue to read before you judge. The problem behind this is, that those people have a conflict of interest, between the needs of the governed and their own interests. So the ideal leader would be someone, where those two match perfectly.... which is of course impossible. But you can approximate it.
The problem with this is, that we have no reliable way of selecting such a person. Mostly because normal people can be tricked pretty easily.
But there is one new solution, that just came up when computers and the Internet got available everywhere: Do not use an humans, but a very simple mathematical model (one that is so simple that every educated human can check it for himself), that calculates descisions out of the votes of a model of cascading trust relationships. This sounds complicated but it's very simple. (If you know how CSS decides, what rules apply to a HTML element, you already know it.) In reality, it would work like this:
There is a set of things, where a decision has to be taken. That set is defined by people having differences in these points. Now someone - the typical role, that a politician would fill today - can create decisions for that set. Then another one can say "I want what he wants.... but, i want this specific thing to be different". Of course someone can use the results of that as his base too. And you can combine partial sets too, as you like. For example, you could say "I'm a liberal, but I agree with person X on family matters and person Y on science matters. oh, and I want social skills to be taught in school."
That way you could form a nice set of your own views without voting for every shit out there. (Because, it should make your life better, not worse:)
Now of course, this does not mean that you can get everything you want... because you live in a community. So you assign yourself to a community/communities (country, state, town) (those are cascading too, and you can define which one has priority over which), and your views will merge with those of the community, to create the rules for that group of people. So a conflict of interest would not be possible, because you could change your set of rules at any time.
Now there would of course be one simple limitation: You have to be in the same group with people that you share resources (land, water, jobs) with, when it comes to that matter (land, water, jobs). This could be automatically solved via a GPS input (or something similar).
I think that would work great. You could even extensively test it in parallel to the current system, round out all problems, and if it works, you can simply let all people join that system by themselves, until the old government does not matter anymore and goes away. So there is also no need for a "transient" government, like in communism, which for some reason never seems to end its job of transition (again a conflict of interest).
This idea of mine is open and I do not care who implements it, as long as you do not create a slightly modified system that becomes evil, and still associate it with me!
Hey, I liked them exactly because the team still had its personality edges.
Then after the first season, every detail was lost and they all became the same pathetic federation clones. I really wish, the writers of the new galactica would write the characters of a 31st century star trek show. And I really wish they would completely stop that retarded bullshit of calling people "aliens" because they have a makeup-pimple on the forehead, because this was the stupidest thing ever "imagined" in a sci-fi-show. Being cheap on the money is no excuse anymore!
;) I'm running "unstable" (~amd64) so I don't have to wait two years before it becomes avaliable while the ebuild still is a piece of crap that kills my emerge.
...well, I'd say real meat women are gonna be in trouble.
Yeah. for exactly one generation. Then nobody will be left to be in trouble.
An analogy for you Slashdotters: Children are compiled by women. Boys too. We just give them half of the source code. Good luck executing your program "humanity.pl" with half of the source and no compiler.
You lost your bet. I spent days searching for something like that.
There are only some open proxies, and either they are incredibly horribly slow, or they cost money and still are very slow. And all of them require some invasive untrustworthy "client" to be installed for no reason. I bet most of them are just spyware and the modify your packets on-the-fly.
My nearly perfect solution for series is, to create a proper search query trough btjunkie.org, and then add the resulting rss-feed to my mldonkey. Some additional scripting (post-filtering [eg duplicates], download priority setting and file renaming) and I'm done. Works like a charm for my shows. I come home and just look in "incoming" instead of turning on the tv. (I do not even have a tv anymore.)
The funny thing is, that it was true. Everybody laughed, and I laughed the loudest, until someone did real tests with it. Turned out, the acceleration of plug-in loading, decompression and image decoding really made the Internet faster. You know, these were the times of large flash intros and slow images.
Of course, if your connection was too slow, it did not help very much.;)
To me, it sounds exactly like the security theater of "security trough obscurity" that we here at Slashdot criticize at every moment. And for good reasons. If the method has a detectable pattern that the receiving browser can decode on the fly, without a password or something alike, so can everybody else, and with the help of some scripts, you have a man-in-the-middle attack.
I think, this obfuscation will hold as long, as a standard software for the obfuscation of executables will hold back the crackers. This can take some time if it's very good, or it can be cracked at the zeroth day. And from then on, it's worthless forever.
I'm surprised someone at Google even mentioned it, because it sounds like the typical false logic of DRM and the like.
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Oh, and that hot spot would be the voltage regulator (mostly to be found between the cpu and the rear ports). You recognize it by the large capacitors and small heat sinks an between them.
And it has a comical courtship behavior, where it jitters its heat sinks in a rhythmic fashion and lets its capacitors glow red to impress a possible mate. ;)
Exactly. I forgot to mention that.
That's why time is so important in these matters.
Of course if the corrosion was minimal, it still might work without problems. It would just get hotter because of the additional resistance. So check your heat sensors. Especially those not it the bigger chips, because these will not have been affected that much by corruption. Of course an external sensor on a on-board hot spot would be perfect, but who has that available?
If the electrolysis is worse, you'll get power fluctuations. So monitor your voltage sensors closely.
If it boots after your cleaning (and drying!), let it run for some hours, and then log heat and temperature to some non-damaged component (like a USB stick). :).
If it still runs after a day, I think you can be safe for some time. But bear in mind that the system will behave as if it were very old and fail earlier, and back up your data (as of course you should do at all times
Sure. If you want to destroy everything...
Better use distilled water. Or look up what they use in the factories to clean up the mainboards before they go out, because I read that they wash them too, and that it's not that different from your washing mashine.
My guess is, that the difference is, to not leave any traces of anything on it, and not use anything that reacts with the materials you want to keep. So use something that kills mold but nothing else, and much distilled water. Then, as others mentioned: If it looks dry, wait another couple of days!
Do not use anything with oil, strong acids/bases or alcohol.
Can anyone tell me if hydrogen peroxide is safe? Because it is a pretty good mold killer from what I heard.
Slashdot's chemists: Please correct me if I'm wrong. :)
Yeah, I saw that episode....
Worst... explanation... ever...
Come on, if you start out that way, you have already lost big time. By trying to explain it, you only make things worse, and more awkward for you. Just let it go, and start with more realistic aliens in the next series. They did it with the Klingons when they went from TOS to TNG, so why not do it again and come closer and closer. With the advanced technology that we have now, the limits are gone.
I recommend aliens that do not look like anything on earth. Not even close. How about much different chemistry.
But hey... most "scientists" can't even accept, that aliens would exist without using oxygen and carbon hydrates, when such lifeforms even exist in our own deep sea.
It's saddening how much average people lack fantasy.
All "modern" government systems (democracy, communism, you name it), or in fact, all government systems until now, had one giant elephant of a problem sitting right there in the middle of the room:
There are humans governing others.
Now continue to read before you judge.
The problem behind this is, that those people have a conflict of interest, between the needs of the governed and their own interests. So the ideal leader would be someone, where those two match perfectly.... which is of course impossible. But you can approximate it.
The problem with this is, that we have no reliable way of selecting such a person. Mostly because normal people can be tricked pretty easily.
But there is one new solution, that just came up when computers and the Internet got available everywhere:
Do not use an humans, but a very simple mathematical model (one that is so simple that every educated human can check it for himself), that calculates descisions out of the votes of a model of cascading trust relationships. This sounds complicated but it's very simple. (If you know how CSS decides, what rules apply to a HTML element, you already know it.)
In reality, it would work like this:
There is a set of things, where a decision has to be taken. That set is defined by people having differences in these points. Now someone - the typical role, that a politician would fill today - can create decisions for that set. Then another one can say "I want what he wants.... but, i want this specific thing to be different". Of course someone can use the results of that as his base too. And you can combine partial sets too, as you like. For example, you could say "I'm a liberal, but I agree with person X on family matters and person Y on science matters. oh, and I want social skills to be taught in school."
That way you could form a nice set of your own views without voting for every shit out there. (Because, it should make your life better, not worse :)
Now of course, this does not mean that you can get everything you want... because you live in a community.
So you assign yourself to a community/communities (country, state, town) (those are cascading too, and you can define which one has priority over which), and your views will merge with those of the community, to create the rules for that group of people.
So a conflict of interest would not be possible, because you could change your set of rules at any time.
Now there would of course be one simple limitation: You have to be in the same group with people that you share resources (land, water, jobs) with, when it comes to that matter (land, water, jobs). This could be automatically solved via a GPS input (or something similar).
I think that would work great. You could even extensively test it in parallel to the current system, round out all problems, and if it works, you can simply let all people join that system by themselves, until the old government does not matter anymore and goes away. So there is also no need for a "transient" government, like in communism, which for some reason never seems to end its job of transition (again a conflict of interest).
This idea of mine is open and I do not care who implements it, as long as you do not create a slightly modified system that becomes evil, and still associate it with me!
That's so black hole collision. That's a picture of a black cat in a barrel of oil at night... trough the eyes of a blind man!
By the way... a beautiful picture. I have it as a screen-saver when my PC is on standby.
Hey, I liked them exactly because the team still had its personality edges.
Then after the first season, every detail was lost and they all became the same pathetic federation clones. I really wish, the writers of the new galactica would write the characters of a 31st century star trek show. And I really wish they would completely stop that retarded bullshit of calling people "aliens" because they have a makeup-pimple on the forehead, because this was the stupidest thing ever "imagined" in a sci-fi-show. Being cheap on the money is no excuse anymore!
Considering his accent, I assume you meant "NLP" (neuro-lingual programming). ;)
More like the Tiny Toon Adventures. And the Klingons are the Dizzy Devil, the Ferengi are Montana Max and the new enemy is ... of course... Elmyra.
No. Malbolge is far worse! Have you seen this horrible masterpiece: http://99-bottles-of-beer.net/language-malbolge-995.html
Brainfuck... more like Getthefuckoff with your children's toys. ;)
;) I'm running "unstable" (~amd64) so I don't have to wait two years before it becomes avaliable while the ebuild still is a piece of crap that kills my emerge.
Have you actually tried them? Outside the US?
I doubt that.
You see, I know most of them. They do not work.
Just go on hulu.com and try watching a video. You can't.
That was the point of having a proxy in this discussion. Point lost.
"YOU'RE WINNER !"
...well, I'd say real meat women are gonna be in trouble.
Yeah. for exactly one generation. Then nobody will be left to be in trouble.
An analogy for you Slashdotters:
Children are compiled by women. Boys too. We just give them half of the source code.
Good luck executing your program "humanity.pl" with half of the source and no compiler.
A link? Simply do:
eix-sync && emerge -autv openoffice
Do you still live in the stone age or what? ;)
You lost your bet. I spent days searching for something like that.
There are only some open proxies, and either they are incredibly horribly slow, or they cost money and still are very slow. And all of them require some invasive untrustworthy "client" to be installed for no reason. I bet most of them are just spyware and the modify your packets on-the-fly.
My nearly perfect solution for series is, to create a proper search query trough btjunkie.org, and then add the resulting rss-feed to my mldonkey. Some additional scripting (post-filtering [eg duplicates], download priority setting and file renaming) and I'm done. Works like a charm for my shows. I come home and just look in "incoming" instead of turning on the tv. (I do not even have a tv anymore.)
Hello, you tried to post in my RSS feed. I'm not here at the moment. Please leave a message after the Sig.
Hey, If you play in the team, you have to communicate. ...Noob! ;)
We are Borg, you insensitive clod!
Oh, and: Resistance is futile. Form follows function!
The funny thing is, that it was true. Everybody laughed, and I laughed the loudest, until someone did real tests with it.
Turned out, the acceleration of plug-in loading, decompression and image decoding really made the Internet faster. You know, these were the times of large flash intros and slow images.
Of course, if your connection was too slow, it did not help very much. ;)
You had to use the word again, did you?
Arrr.... In pirate seas, the fish will eat YOU!
You want to be a pirate, and don't know that keelhauling is done without a plank?
I scratched my prisoners on the sharp shells of the bottom of my ship, before you could even shit your diapers. ;)
Unfortunately, I never learned to talk like a pirate. Fortunately this gave me the advantage of nobody noticing my heritage on the phone. :D
Arrrrr.....
Damnit. Slashdot ate the Euro character in "I support them by an € here and there".
To me, it sounds exactly like the security theater of "security trough obscurity" that we here at Slashdot criticize at every moment. And for good reasons. If the method has a detectable pattern that the receiving browser can decode on the fly, without a password or something alike, so can everybody else, and with the help of some scripts, you have a man-in-the-middle attack.
I think, this obfuscation will hold as long, as a standard software for the obfuscation of executables will hold back the crackers. This can take some time if it's very good, or it can be cracked at the zeroth day. And from then on, it's worthless forever.
I'm surprised someone at Google even mentioned it, because it sounds like the typical false logic of DRM and the like.
Ok, that makes sense. But I still can't wrap my head completely around it. :(
I'll keep trying/thinking...
Yes, but still, outside time speed would increase exponentially and maybe even approach infinity or the end of time. You know what that means. :)