Somehow everyone seems to miss, that this “Chromification” actually is a Opera-ism, which was from the very beginning designed like this, because it had tabs from the very beginning. It’s funny how everything always comes back to Opera’s choices of detail implementation being the best.
I, for one, thank the only innovators in the business. There’s a reason they are the only ones who are remotely profitable with making browsers.
Also: It’s 2010, right? We have mouse gestures, rocker gestures, keys, lots of buttons on the mice... and they are still insulting us with buttons. I mean, back and forward buttons? Really? At least make them only visible in “beginner mode” or something. This is silly. It’s the same thing that is disturbing me about window management: Using tiny 3px virtual buttons (as opposed to physical ones) and 1px drag areas for window management. I did away with those things for window management, as soon as I started using Compiz. (Which, opposite to its reputation is actually a much better window manager, when you focus on the shortcuts/mouse actions and windows rules aspects, instead of the bling.) I use Win+MouseX, where X is one of the 5 buttons of my mouse, and is assigned to moving, resizing, closing, maximizing/restoring and minimizing. With a added Shift key, the buttons are assigned to virtual desktop management. I even removed all task bars. I only toggle the “widget” layer etc by a click in the corner of the screen. Which gives me status infos and allows me to start new apps or open documents. I find it to be extremely easy, fast, and efficient. (I also have keyboard-only alternatives for everything.)
...in one little sentence. Before you mod me down in trolling rage, listen:
This sentence is perfectly clear and unambiguous to everyone but mathematicians. In normal social interaction, there simply is no doubt about what the “one of” belongs to. Only mathematicians with their surreal alien thought processes and social inferiority (Because of their work. So no absolute judgment here. Only relative to what we call normal.), would ever struggle with that.
It feels like their minds completely miss any kind of default assumptions of a society. But not only that. It even is seen as a taboo and as something unacceptably bad to them. (Because of course in mathematics and programming, it is.) But the real world is based on them, and they work really well. Sure there are wrong assumptions here and there, but they can’t remotely outweigh the benefits.
Mind you that I was very close to also becoming that strict, a couple of years ago. But nowadays, after having been out much, I have become unable to stand more of 2-3 lines of conversation with a mathematician. Because for every shit they don’t accept it, if there isn’t a rule and definition for every shit. I’m just standing there, yelling “You know *exactly* what I mean, but you’re too much of a micromanaging dick to simply make that assumption!”.
It’s sad, because mathematicians don’t have to be that way all the time. I can perfectly see the point of it, when doing mathematics. It’s good. But leave it there, and stay human for the rest. Or you’ll find yourself all alone at home, having tinkered about shit like the Tuesday birthday “problem” for months at a stretch.
Fathers don't cheat any more than mothers do, and don't deserve the bad press they always seem to get.
And in the case that anyone of the spineless socially conditioned losers here doubts that: There are enough studies backing that up. Also, if they ever talked to a couple of women in private, they’d know. (And by the way: I’m not even judging those actions.)
I’m sorry? If you deem your partner unsuitable, then the fuck stop being with her/him! And then get someone else.
I can see some women do this because they just have too much fear of being alone. Which still is their failure. But if a man does this, that’s no excuse, but only proof of how little spine and balls he has.
I’m an expert on shades of gray (and multidimensionality, and distribution functions over that space, etc), and this has nothing to do with it.
Of course there are shades of gray. But in this case the only cases that aren’t deep in pitch black are freak events like getting hit by lightning on an open field while seeing a white raven win the lottery.;)
You are right. Your comment is indeed a popular meme with no factual basis.;)
The fact that browsers would be updated by tomorrow, if the websites would not work with the old ones anymore, is a hard solid fact though. With proof. In the form of the same people updating Flash every couple of months, for that very same reason. If they can update Flash, they can update anything else too. And in fact they do.
The problem is not them. They just act in the most efficient way. They get away with what they can. Why waste resources? The problem is the people who have no balls to lead the way and sculpt the world. Who have no spine to say that they don’t accept shit (=IE) anymore.
I’ve done it. I've blocked IE. Every version. My target group does not include people with no working brain. Simple. So can yo.
Well, that’s simple: DROP FLASH! Then the workplaces WILL upgrade their browsers.
God, this pseudo-argument that you repeated is so incredibly stupid, that only the worst kind of spineless cattle-people (especially middle management PHBs) could ever take it seriously.
They update Flash every couple of months. Because they have to. Because the sites tell them that they don’t work with old versions of Flash. Next Flash update = Browser update.
I wish there was an antivirus that would delete the gaping hole that sits between the keyboard and the chair. And I don’t mean that in a Goatse kind of way.
And so much for the idea that the Firefox developers had a spine.
Appeal to the dumbest part of the Gaussian distribution curve of your users, at the cost of the rest... I thought that was a disease of for-profit companies, and especially Microsoft (Proof: Clippy).
I have no clue where the fuck the Slashdot summary came from, but it's horribly, horribly wrong both in terms of summarizing the research and in terms of general history
I thought that was a given and did not need mentioning.;)
I studied this aspects of social dynamics and psychology, and... well... I know for a fact that you never learned how to be a real man.
Real men don’t have to lie. Because they define what’s OK and what not. And don’t let the women define their reality. Which does not mean the unfair shit that extreme feminists want to paint it as. Quite the opposite. The difference is: We don’t enforce. We offer. She accepts. Because she likes it.
And here is the key: A real man does not have to lie or fear that he will lose her, because he does not depend on her. He does not need to take value from her. He offers. But not for free. For the worth he himself gives himself. The woman attaches to it. When she detaches, well, it does not really matter. He has the next one in about an hour. His state does not rise and fall with her acceptance. If he says that is ok, it is. Period. Or goodbye. (Of course if she has a good point, that’s nice too. And of course if by his own rules, he just fucked up, then he has to and will apologize and fix it. Point is: She accepted those rules when she came to him. That’s why it’s OK. You did not force her on those rules. She saw them and saw that they were good.) [Now you know why the women with servant husbands/BFs prefer to fuck someone who does the above, behind his back. ^^ I say they are right!]
No, you’re living in a fantasy world. A world that was parroted around so much by the losers of the world, that everybody started actually believing it. A world where what you describe is normal.
Where the man has no spine and no dominance whatsoever. And hence the woman only uses him as a provider and as a slave. While she fucks someone else behind his back. And for good reason. Since that other man is the actual manly man with the spine and dominance, but he’s too “free” to be able to be much of a provider.
Meanwhile we get told from childhood on, that being dominant would be wrong and men and women are equal. Has anyone looked at them lately? Or talked with the other sex? The needs and everything as so very different, they could as well be two species. But when you mention that dominance is a male thing, you always get those female and male extremist feminists who in a very funny quirk of nature want to make men and women completely equal, by running after *male* ideals, as if they were their own too. Meanwhile, every healthy woman shakes her head, since her ideas are *her* ideals. And dominance or other male things not being them is only a bad thing for actual sexists, who value male ideals higher. As I said: A funny quirk that those who do that, are the worst feminists. ^^
Look, it’s simple: A woman simply loves the feeling of being safe and secure. She can still pull the strings if she wants. But I can completely relate to having a safe nest. Especially if I were by nature dedicated to be the “child expert”. (The sad thing, is that raising children is not the most respected and best paid job in our society. For both sexes. Mothers earlier, fathers later.)
And then women get flooded with things that make them insecure.
Conclusion: Be dominant and lead the way, but be there for her! And you know you are doing good, when she does not have bad thoughts about you or her, when you mention a nice ass. Because of how very sure she is because of how very sure and safe you are. Turn it around and think of it: If your wife would say that a man was very charming, when do you think it’s more likely she will think that maybe it’s a bit unstable with you both? When you just stay cool and maybe agree, not showing a big reaction? Or when you start to panic inside of “Oh god please don’t let her run away because oh god I’m so lucky that I got her at all!”? Hm? ^^
Geeks generally don’t buy Apple products. They buy a Linux phone from an obscure company that is also barely usable as a phone, but at least completely hackable. Hipsters and valley girls buy Apple products. Oh, and those people that drive Priuses. ^^
Yeah, really lucky, to get your lungs torn out, replaced by some low-performance monstrously looking man-made ones, closed up, and expected to breathe trough them. Think constant shortage of breath and the resulting fast breathing an panic. Yay, amazingly wonderful.:/
"I know I'm never buying a desktop without ECC RAM ever again!"
There are still the CPU, the cache, the hard disk, the network, and a ton of buses in-between, where a bit could be flipped. Unless you add ECC data right at the creation of the data, and pass it trough all the way to the end, you can’t be sure of anything.
What are you blabbing about? The thing has the whole set of Linux apps avaliable for it. And since when does “flagship device” equal “second-class device”?
Also the Ovi Store is just a dummy. It’s there to be able to say they have an “app store” to the Appletards*. But there never was a point to an “app store” on full operating systems. Just as there is no point to an app store for your Linux or Windows desktop. And just as there was nobody who felt a need for a app store back in and before 2004, when the first Symbian smart phones came to the market. You just went to Google and typed “Symbian $myAppKeywords”. Up came and come countless sites listing tons of Symbian apps, allowing download and linking to the manufacturer’s site. And then you can also just search for MIDP (Java) software. Which again lists you lots of sites with lots of apps.
* It’s really just Applethink in an Apple world, where there is a point to a single app store.
I did multitasking on the very first Symbian smart phone. And that was earlier than 2004. I had a file manager. A MP3 player. A removable storage card. A video player. Instant messaging (IM+). E-Mail. 3D Games. Java. SSH. Lots of other stuff. It was a real computer in every aspect. The only thing that it lacked, was speed and storage size.
It got a pretty bad internal API. From what I know, multithreading is horrible. And so is lots of other stuff. Because it’s just tacked-on. It has that Windows ME feeling. You know: When the architecture does not fit the expected feature set anymore, but is used anyway. (Maybe that’s why MEeGo is named that way.;)
Also Opera/Nimbuzz/Fring are no argument for its quality. Because by the same logic, IE’s Trident must be a great engine, because every major website works in it.
Slashdot Mirror
Obligatory pun: http://cheezburger.com/View/3696285952
...that Dell still sells Windows PCs. ;)
Somehow everyone seems to miss, that this “Chromification” actually is a Opera-ism, which was from the very beginning designed like this, because it had tabs from the very beginning.
It’s funny how everything always comes back to Opera’s choices of detail implementation being the best.
I, for one, thank the only innovators in the business. There’s a reason they are the only ones who are remotely profitable with making browsers.
Also: It’s 2010, right? We have mouse gestures, rocker gestures, keys, lots of buttons on the mice... and they are still insulting us with buttons. I mean, back and forward buttons? Really? At least make them only visible in “beginner mode” or something. This is silly.
It’s the same thing that is disturbing me about window management: Using tiny 3px virtual buttons (as opposed to physical ones) and 1px drag areas for window management.
I did away with those things for window management, as soon as I started using Compiz. (Which, opposite to its reputation is actually a much better window manager, when you focus on the shortcuts/mouse actions and windows rules aspects, instead of the bling.)
I use Win+MouseX, where X is one of the 5 buttons of my mouse, and is assigned to moving, resizing, closing, maximizing/restoring and minimizing. With a added Shift key, the buttons are assigned to virtual desktop management. I even removed all task bars. I only toggle the “widget” layer etc by a click in the corner of the screen. Which gives me status infos and allows me to start new apps or open documents. I find it to be extremely easy, fast, and efficient. (I also have keyboard-only alternatives for everything.)
Well, she would finally feel good about fucking those 3 black guys with the large dicks. ;)
(Hey, you’d do the same [with women].)
...in one little sentence.
Before you mod me down in trolling rage, listen:
This sentence is perfectly clear and unambiguous to everyone but mathematicians.
In normal social interaction, there simply is no doubt about what the “one of” belongs to.
Only mathematicians with their surreal alien thought processes and social inferiority (Because of their work. So no absolute judgment here. Only relative to what we call normal.), would ever struggle with that.
It feels like their minds completely miss any kind of default assumptions of a society. But not only that. It even is seen as a taboo and as something unacceptably bad to them. (Because of course in mathematics and programming, it is.)
But the real world is based on them, and they work really well.
Sure there are wrong assumptions here and there, but they can’t remotely outweigh the benefits.
Mind you that I was very close to also becoming that strict, a couple of years ago.
But nowadays, after having been out much, I have become unable to stand more of 2-3 lines of conversation with a mathematician.
Because for every shit they don’t accept it, if there isn’t a rule and definition for every shit.
I’m just standing there, yelling “You know *exactly* what I mean, but you’re too much of a micromanaging dick to simply make that assumption!”.
It’s sad, because mathematicians don’t have to be that way all the time.
I can perfectly see the point of it, when doing mathematics. It’s good.
But leave it there, and stay human for the rest. Or you’ll find yourself all alone at home, having tinkered about shit like the Tuesday birthday “problem” for months at a stretch.
Fathers don't cheat any more than mothers do, and don't deserve the bad press they always seem to get.
And in the case that anyone of the spineless socially conditioned losers here doubts that: There are enough studies backing that up. Also, if they ever talked to a couple of women in private, they’d know. (And by the way: I’m not even judging those actions.)
Well, then why not make a business out of it?
Both sides of it.
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*rewinds*
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Well, then why not make a business out of it?
Oh wait...
I’m sorry? If you deem your partner unsuitable, then the fuck stop being with her/him!
And then get someone else.
I can see some women do this because they just have too much fear of being alone. Which still is their failure.
But if a man does this, that’s no excuse, but only proof of how little spine and balls he has.
I’m an expert on shades of gray (and multidimensionality, and distribution functions over that space, etc), and this has nothing to do with it.
Of course there are shades of gray. But in this case the only cases that aren’t deep in pitch black are freak events like getting hit by lightning on an open field while seeing a white raven win the lottery. ;)
18 buttons? Pfft!
I just strapped a dozen keyboards to a Swiss ball!
Now tell me who has the king of all computer mice!?! :D
You are right. Your comment is indeed a popular meme with no factual basis. ;)
The fact that browsers would be updated by tomorrow, if the websites would not work with the old ones anymore, is a hard solid fact though. With proof. In the form of the same people updating Flash every couple of months, for that very same reason. If they can update Flash, they can update anything else too. And in fact they do.
The problem is not them. They just act in the most efficient way. They get away with what they can. Why waste resources?
The problem is the people who have no balls to lead the way and sculpt the world. Who have no spine to say that they don’t accept shit (=IE) anymore.
I’ve done it. I've blocked IE. Every version. My target group does not include people with no working brain. Simple.
So can yo.
Well, that’s simple: DROP FLASH!
Then the workplaces WILL upgrade their browsers.
God, this pseudo-argument that you repeated is so incredibly stupid, that only the worst kind of spineless cattle-people (especially middle management PHBs) could ever take it seriously.
They update Flash every couple of months. Because they have to. Because the sites tell them that they don’t work with old versions of Flash. Next Flash update = Browser update.
Done.
I wish there was an antivirus that would delete the gaping hole that sits between the keyboard and the chair. And I don’t mean that in a Goatse kind of way.
And so much for the idea that the Firefox developers had a spine.
Appeal to the dumbest part of the Gaussian distribution curve of your users, at the cost of the rest... I thought that was a disease of for-profit companies, and especially Microsoft (Proof: Clippy).
I have no clue where the fuck the Slashdot summary came from, but it's horribly, horribly wrong both in terms of summarizing the research and in terms of general history
I thought that was a given and did not need mentioning. ;)
So they never had to take a pi?
I studied this aspects of social dynamics and psychology, and... well... I know for a fact that you never learned how to be a real man.
Real men don’t have to lie. Because they define what’s OK and what not. And don’t let the women define their reality.
Which does not mean the unfair shit that extreme feminists want to paint it as. Quite the opposite.
The difference is: We don’t enforce. We offer. She accepts. Because she likes it.
And here is the key: A real man does not have to lie or fear that he will lose her, because he does not depend on her. He does not need to take value from her. He offers. But not for free. For the worth he himself gives himself. The woman attaches to it. When she detaches, well, it does not really matter. He has the next one in about an hour. His state does not rise and fall with her acceptance. If he says that is ok, it is. Period. Or goodbye.
(Of course if she has a good point, that’s nice too. And of course if by his own rules, he just fucked up, then he has to and will apologize and fix it. Point is: She accepted those rules when she came to him. That’s why it’s OK. You did not force her on those rules. She saw them and saw that they were good.)
[Now you know why the women with servant husbands/BFs prefer to fuck someone who does the above, behind his back. ^^ I say they are right!]
No, you’re living in a fantasy world.
A world that was parroted around so much by the losers of the world, that everybody started actually believing it.
A world where what you describe is normal.
Where the man has no spine and no dominance whatsoever. And hence the woman only uses him as a provider and as a slave. While she fucks someone else behind his back. And for good reason. Since that other man is the actual manly man with the spine and dominance, but he’s too “free” to be able to be much of a provider.
Meanwhile we get told from childhood on, that being dominant would be wrong and men and women are equal. Has anyone looked at them lately? Or talked with the other sex? The needs and everything as so very different, they could as well be two species.
But when you mention that dominance is a male thing, you always get those female and male extremist feminists who in a very funny quirk of nature want to make men and women completely equal, by running after *male* ideals, as if they were their own too.
Meanwhile, every healthy woman shakes her head, since her ideas are *her* ideals. And dominance or other male things not being them is only a bad thing for actual sexists, who value male ideals higher. As I said: A funny quirk that those who do that, are the worst feminists. ^^
Look, it’s simple: A woman simply loves the feeling of being safe and secure. She can still pull the strings if she wants. But I can completely relate to having a safe nest. Especially if I were by nature dedicated to be the “child expert”.
(The sad thing, is that raising children is not the most respected and best paid job in our society. For both sexes. Mothers earlier, fathers later.)
And then women get flooded with things that make them insecure.
Conclusion: Be dominant and lead the way, but be there for her! And you know you are doing good, when she does not have bad thoughts about you or her, when you mention a nice ass. Because of how very sure she is because of how very sure and safe you are.
Turn it around and think of it: If your wife would say that a man was very charming, when do you think it’s more likely she will think that maybe it’s a bit unstable with you both? When you just stay cool and maybe agree, not showing a big reaction? Or when you start to panic inside of “Oh god please don’t let her run away because oh god I’m so lucky that I got her at all!”?
Hm? ^^
See... :)
Geeks generally don’t buy Apple products. They buy a Linux phone from an obscure company that is also barely usable as a phone, but at least completely hackable.
Hipsters and valley girls buy Apple products. Oh, and those people that drive Priuses. ^^
will be "not of the Body of Jobs", and mocked and ostracized.
I call that a pretty cool compliment. :)
They do even crazier things to get out of the US. Like going trough the TSA.
And since when is the UK the US?
Yeah, really lucky, to get your lungs torn out, replaced by some low-performance monstrously looking man-made ones, closed up, and expected to breathe trough them. Think constant shortage of breath and the resulting fast breathing an panic. Yay, amazingly wonderful. :/
"I know I'm never buying a desktop without ECC RAM ever again!"
There are still the CPU, the cache, the hard disk, the network, and a ton of buses in-between, where a bit could be flipped.
Unless you add ECC data right at the creation of the data, and pass it trough all the way to the end, you can’t be sure of anything.
What are you blabbing about? The thing has the whole set of Linux apps avaliable for it. And since when does “flagship device” equal “second-class device”?
Also the Ovi Store is just a dummy. It’s there to be able to say they have an “app store” to the Appletards*. But there never was a point to an “app store” on full operating systems. Just as there is no point to an app store for your Linux or Windows desktop. And just as there was nobody who felt a need for a app store back in and before 2004, when the first Symbian smart phones came to the market.
You just went to Google and typed “Symbian $myAppKeywords”. Up came and come countless sites listing tons of Symbian apps, allowing download and linking to the manufacturer’s site.
And then you can also just search for MIDP (Java) software. Which again lists you lots of sites with lots of apps.
* It’s really just Applethink in an Apple world, where there is a point to a single app store.
I did multitasking on the very first Symbian smart phone. And that was earlier than 2004.
I had a file manager. A MP3 player. A removable storage card. A video player. Instant messaging (IM+). E-Mail. 3D Games. Java. SSH. Lots of other stuff. It was a real computer in every aspect.
The only thing that it lacked, was speed and storage size.
It got a pretty bad internal API. From what I know, multithreading is horrible. And so is lots of other stuff. Because it’s just tacked-on. It has that Windows ME feeling. You know: When the architecture does not fit the expected feature set anymore, but is used anyway. (Maybe that’s why MEeGo is named that way. ;)
Also Opera/Nimbuzz/Fring are no argument for its quality. Because by the same logic, IE’s Trident must be a great engine, because every major website works in it.