Well Fyodor I think we're all in agreement that you're not a terrorist (-:
I remember when you posted those pictures on http://www.insecure.org/tmp/trolls/trolls.html from your break-in to that guy's machine. I still have them around: I show them to people to show them just how skilled some people are at hacking.
What I guess I don't know is how you got them. Your statement above seems to say that you weren't involved with hacking into this kid's computer, yet the narrative you posted reads like you were watching this kid's screen for hours?
Could you tell us more about this story of how you were able to witness this break-in and post it to your website without, well... breaking in?
I think that for reasons that should be obvious, I can't put something like that on my employer's hosting... cough cough... that said here's one that's pretty good:
That was so funny, when Fyodor hacked that guy. I still have the screenshots he posted to insecure.org!
Stupid troll! Fyodor, keep up the good work, maybe if you hack all the trolls and wipe their hard drives, Slashdot won't have so many goat-gross out links and stuff!
Then why is Fyodor a free man? And how do you explain the lack of prosecution of this case?
I think you and the parent are both right. I think you're correct in saying that if the FBI wants someone badly enough, they can prosecute them for damn near anything. I think the parent is right that they will almost never pursue a case where a corporation is not the victim. They don't want to involve themselves in defending Internet cranks.
That's why Fyodor's gotten away scott free, and I can't say I blame him. Maybe it will teach these jokers some manners.
Consider the case of Biswaneth Halder, the CRWU student who walked into a campus building two weeks ago and shot a man to death because no one would investigate the hacking and deletion of his web site. His letter to Congress gives a clear account of what it's like to try to get the FBI to prosecute a cybercrime case where no financial damage can be demonstrated.
This is not to say, however, that Mr. Halder was sane.
Then why did they ever stop distributung Linux ? In my view, their actions speak louder than their words. Of course they have the opinion that they did nothing wrong, and were greatly wronged. Tell me about a plaintiff that didn't publicly say this, and then I'll be surprised.
Exactly, exactly. "Our distribution of Linux does not make it GPL'd, even though we stopped once we realized our mistake".
She's on a private network, in the 10.X range. Why did the computer come with nmap and an ssh exploit? Did she code the exploit up from memory real quick?
"we are the copyright holder of Linux, only we are the copyright holder of Linux, and therefore only we can place Linux under the GPL. Since we didn't; it isn't".
What if this thing was incredibly small and incredibly cheap? Maybe it wouldn't fly here, but some other markets have a high demand for cheap single-function devices, most notably South Korea.
Even better would be if you could find a way to make the water rise up into space and just pool there. That would be an amazing illusion.
I've seen the "floating spigot" illusion at trade shows, where water is piped up a transparent tube and then back down its outer surface, creating the illusion of a suspended spigot endlessly pumping water.
If you're ever prosecuted for not keeping a copy of someone's resume, tell the prosecutor it's on this hard drive you've got, but you misplaced the encryption key.
Remember, the burden of proof is on the prosecutor. He has to prove that your noise isn't encrypted resumes.
I'd like to share a revelation that I've had, during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species I realized that you're not actually plants. Every plant on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment, but you grapes do not. You move to an area, and you multiply, and multiply, until every fencepost is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another fence. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. A virus. Grapes are a disease, a cancer of this planet, you are a plague, and the French are the cure.
It's important to note btw, for those who haven't caught this detail, that the subterranean bacteria in question derive energy from chemicals (chemosynthesis) rather than from sunglight (photosynthesis). This discovery in itself was breathtaking, as it means that we might have a way of "farming" even if the sky is blotted out for years, i.e. nuclear winter or ELE (extinction event like comet impact).
Well Fyodor I think we're all in agreement that you're not a terrorist (-:
I remember when you posted those pictures on http://www.insecure.org/tmp/trolls/trolls.html from your break-in to that guy's machine. I still have them around: I show them to people to show them just how skilled some people are at hacking.
What I guess I don't know is how you got them. Your statement above seems to say that you weren't involved with hacking into this kid's computer, yet the narrative you posted reads like you were watching this kid's screen for hours?
Could you tell us more about this story of how you were able to witness this break-in and post it to your website without, well... breaking in?
The whole thing fascinates me.
I think that for reasons that should be obvious, I can't put something like that on my employer's hosting... cough cough... that said here's one that's pretty good:
s dem-admiring-trolls-1029524261.jpg
http://trollaxor.com/tmp/trolls/sdem_screenshots/
I think they truly enjoy themselves with this!
That was so funny, when Fyodor hacked that guy. I still have the screenshots he posted to insecure.org!
Stupid troll! Fyodor, keep up the good work, maybe if you hack all the trolls and wipe their hard drives, Slashdot won't have so many goat-gross out links and stuff!
Then why is Fyodor a free man? And how do you explain the lack of prosecution of this case?
I think you and the parent are both right. I think you're correct in saying that if the FBI wants someone badly enough, they can prosecute them for damn near anything. I think the parent is right that they will almost never pursue a case where a corporation is not the victim. They don't want to involve themselves in defending Internet cranks.
That's why Fyodor's gotten away scott free, and I can't say I blame him. Maybe it will teach these jokers some manners.
Consider the case of Biswaneth Halder, the CRWU student who walked into a campus building two weeks ago and shot a man to death because no one would investigate the hacking and deletion of his web site. His letter to Congress gives a clear account of what it's like to try to get the FBI to prosecute a cybercrime case where no financial damage can be demonstrated.
This is not to say, however, that Mr. Halder was sane.
What if you forced a conversion to plaintext first and then gzipped it? You could literally fit a billion resumes on a DVD-R!
"Your puny American copyright law is invisible here"
Or was the Slammer worm loosed on the Internet four or five months after the vulnerability was announced?
Are they advocating cutting the gap time by a few months here?
Could work alikes be quickly coded? Or are we talking about man-years of effort here?
She's on a private network, in the 10.X range. Why did the computer come with nmap and an ssh exploit? Did she code the exploit up from memory real quick?
So you'll forgive me for briefly commenting, because I have to type very slowly.
Actually, that should answer your question.
Wipe out the four major NOCs in North America, and the much-vaunted Internet redundancy dies on the pointy end of traceroute.
This depends, quite a bit, on whether SCO manages to sue RedHat into bankruptcy.
Am I correct in distilling their argument as:
"we are the copyright holder of Linux, only we are the copyright holder of Linux, and therefore only we can place Linux under the GPL. Since we didn't; it isn't".
Interesting claim.
It would be: Try to drive to your destination, and if you hit someone, go home and try to drive there again. (-:
What if this thing was incredibly small and incredibly cheap? Maybe it wouldn't fly here, but some other markets have a high demand for cheap single-function devices, most notably South Korea.
Even better would be if you could find a way to make the water rise up into space and just pool there. That would be an amazing illusion.
I've seen the "floating spigot" illusion at trade shows, where water is piped up a transparent tube and then back down its outer surface, creating the illusion of a suspended spigot endlessly pumping water.
This sounds much cooler though.
I'd do anything do ditch my ISDN service, but it's all I can get. They don't even have DSL yet out here, and forget about cable modems.
The older ones were based on a BSD core. I'd love to see the internal memo documenting that switch.
- Buy a 100 gig hard drive
- Format it with random noise
- Give the random noise a PGP header
- If you're ever prosecuted for not keeping a copy of someone's resume, tell the prosecutor it's on this hard drive you've got, but you misplaced the encryption key.
Remember, the burden of proof is on the prosecutor. He has to prove that your noise isn't encrypted resumes.I'd like to share a revelation that I've had, during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species I realized that you're not actually plants. Every plant on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment, but you grapes do not. You move to an area, and you multiply, and multiply, until every fencepost is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another fence. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. A virus. Grapes are a disease, a cancer of this planet, you are a plague, and the French are the cure.
What's an average web developer to you? 100 pages? 1000 pages?
Transfer to a liberal arts major? Or do they all migrate out into the sciences...
It's important to note btw, for those who haven't caught this detail, that the subterranean bacteria in question derive energy from chemicals (chemosynthesis) rather than from sunglight (photosynthesis). This discovery in itself was breathtaking, as it means that we might have a way of "farming" even if the sky is blotted out for years, i.e. nuclear winter or ELE (extinction event like comet impact).