sgage, Could you please join us at SegwayChat
and tell us more about Segway related DARPA projects? ptorrone (pt to us) brought over the
topics, if it runs linux, then it's cool... from slashdot and several people would be interested in learning more. Thanks.
They are not sold at all at the moment.
The FDA (Food and Drug Administration) Special Advisory Panel unanimously voted for the acceptance of iBOT, so it's highly likely that it will be FDA approved soon, hopefully this year.
Their predicted price is around 30thousand dollars, but people who need it will save in costs of redesigning their houses.
There are quite a few Segway Contest/Early Delivery Winners there, who can answer your questions - including
Philip Torrone and his wife, Beth, who were in the first group, as you could see from their site.
Also, Frank Tropea, the SegwayChat site owner, who was in the last group.
Take a look, it's free:o)
It's a minor detail that such experiments could be done
already in the sixties, and were done by Jose Delgado and others on bulls and monkeys.
The electronics is now miniaturized and evidently the world is more ready to accept all this. Read also Michael Crichton's The Terminal Man if you are interested in all this.
RatbotThe future of mind control/EconomistIEEESciAmNYTrobots
What this seems to indicate is that they don't have a good idea for a working physical model.
That is a major problem in a grant proposal.
Still exploring the background - this Professor did not get all the 50 million dollars alone, but still...
Plus the money is distributed over the years, so the contract will be re-evaluated at regular intervals. It sounds rather embarassing for the applicants, the reviewers and also for the funding agency...
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thanks for the light-to-sound link. It's very nice, there are also ongoing efforts to convert the visual image to somatosensory stimulation pattern somewhere on the skin, but the real dream of course to use whatever is still available in the visual modalitiy, including the retina, the optic nerve and the visual cortex itself.
It seems that this topics is very interesting for Slashdot readers, as related articles are often discussed here.
The answers to some of the questions that were raised here can be found on our pages, where we collected links to similar science and technology articles.
Also, we would like to offer a $100 prize for the most thoughtful two-page article, commentary/criticism of either this Wired article alone, or a broader view of the current state of this science/technology field. Also please let us know in this thread whether you find this a fair compensation. We will then post the best on our site, with due references to the writer (unless s/he would like to remain anonymous). You keep the copyright permissions. Please send submissions to info@neuroprosthesis.org within a 15 day time frame. The results will be evaluated after that, and announced on September 15 on our site (unless we have 100,000 submissions and will have to beg for patience and time).
Thanks.
I few hours ago I wrote that this is probably
IRIS SCAN technology. All you need is to stand near the video camera - plus a data base in the background (this is why they are thinking about frequent flyers).
No artificial eyes, no special contact lenses would do. Even identical twins have very different irises. But there was a scene on Nash Bridges where the bad guys got around this technology - they held a gun to the back of the security guard, whose iris codes were already in the data base of the bank! - an unlikely method these days on an airport to fool the video camera/computer search system. Eye transplants may work some day, if they can properly reconnect the eyes to at least stay alive... for a living iris it does not need to be functional, but the pupil needs to be able to "pulsate".
Retinal scan is more _intrusive_ - probably this is why it's more interesting for the Spielberg like futuristic films.
You just need to stand near the camera.
It does not work with artificial eyes, or contact lenses, because the designers of the method also test pupil dilation - Blade Runner like:-)
John Daugman (now in Cambridge England then at Harvard) developed the efficient coding method. According to the legend, the James Bond film Never Say Never uses Iris Scans. Retinal Scans are way more intrusive.
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you may agree or disagree with his article but why do some people make negative personal remarks
about the author? especially ones which are not very insightful to say the least.
to get back to the topics though. Try to enjoy newer and newer versions of LabVIEW, Statistica, SPSS, SPlus, Mathematica, MATLAB, Igor PRO and so on and so one on an endless list when all you want to do is some basic experiment...
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We publish lots of related news on our site.
From the remarks here I can see that Slashdot members are still not familiar with it, although we make a concerted effort to collect such news, provide discussions and some feedback in this highly publicized research field with the goal to help individuals with sensorimotor disabilities. Although I was consciously searching for the related Slashdot discussion, I simply did not have time to chime in earlier (see reasons on our site).
So I am inviting you to visit if you are interested in related news and some background info.
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Well, not exactly, sorry to disagree here.
They specifically mention
"interview and interrogation" - I'd rather read Winnie-the-Pooh in a funny-fuzzy translation then.
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Wired magazine also pointed out the tastelessness
and the weird symbolism (the destruction of the tower of Babel ??? ) of the logo. If you already discussed this very short article here, I apologize, if not and anyone is interested, I am happy to type it in tomorrow.
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I am quite happy that Slashdot readers/writers did not take the Economist Journalists' (Businessmen?) views all that seriously.
I don't want to claim that there is no place for improvement. But such mind controlling implants were already used in research and to some extent monkeys and humans in the sixties and seventies. What's really new and not all that much revolutionary now is that the electronics is miniaturized to some extent - but it's one thing to resort to chronic electrode implants because nothing else seems to be able to desynchronize Parkinson's disease related tremor and another to ask for electrode arrays (even if they existed already) that could be used for cognitive enhancement!
Please visit our site for some more balanced Science News and some background info. Quite a few of the research projects that you discussed here (following Press Releases) are presented there in a slightly different light - and also more informative in some sense than News articles even from Washington Post and New York Times Science and Technology section. Although I need to admit that some of the journalists do take the time to do some nice research in the field they write about.
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why should you bother?
John Chapin, the Chief Scientist on the project, is getting rich from this and he is as American as you can get. So what's your problem then?
Do you really think that any politician would give more weight to your words against his?
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sgage, Could you please join us at SegwayChat and tell us more about Segway related DARPA projects? ptorrone (pt to us) brought over the topics, if it runs linux, then it's cool... from slashdot and several people would be interested in learning more. Thanks.
They are not sold at all at the moment. The FDA (Food and Drug Administration) Special Advisory Panel unanimously voted for the acceptance of iBOT, so it's highly likely that it will be FDA approved soon, hopefully this year. Their predicted price is around 30thousand dollars, but people who need it will save in costs of redesigning their houses.
Phil Torrone was seen and photographed in Japan, so you may be onto something here! Here is the proof. http://www.insomedia.com/japan/
Sorry. My mistake. I thought you ordered one on Amazon.com and you were sad that your future Segway is not listed on SegwayChat ...
http://www.epinions.com/Segway_Human_Transporter_G ifts__Novelties__Collectibles_and_Gadgets/display_ ~reviews
Segway Owners a Small, Happy Club A Gizmo Wiz and His Scooter It's not a Mac Switch like Segway Plot!
because you did not list yourself :o) as a member and Future Owner!
There are quite a few Segway Contest/Early Delivery Winners there, who can answer your questions - including Philip Torrone and his wife, Beth, who were in the first group, as you could see from their site. Also, Frank Tropea, the SegwayChat site owner, who was in the last group. Take a look, it's free :o)
It's a minor detail that such experiments could be done already in the sixties, and were done by Jose Delgado and others on bulls and monkeys. The electronics is now miniaturized and evidently the world is more ready to accept all this. Read also Michael Crichton's The Terminal Man if you are interested in all this. Ratbot The future of mind control/Economist IEEE SciAm NYT robots
I'm sure you would be. Then they would classify the project and you would not be allowed to take a look at your own drawings any more.
What this seems to indicate is that they don't have a good idea for a working physical model. That is a major problem in a grant proposal. Still exploring the background - this Professor did not get all the 50 million dollars alone, but still ...
Plus the money is distributed over the years, so the contract will be re-evaluated at regular intervals. It sounds rather embarassing for the applicants, the reviewers and also for the funding agency ...
Neuroprosthesis News
thanks for the light-to-sound link. It's very nice, there are also ongoing efforts to convert the visual image to somatosensory stimulation pattern somewhere on the skin, but the real dream of course to use whatever is still available in the visual modalitiy, including the retina, the optic nerve and the visual cortex itself.
Please visit Neuroprosthesis News
Also, we would like to offer a $100 prize for the most thoughtful two-page article, commentary/criticism of either this Wired article alone, or a broader view of the current state of this science/technology field. Also please let us know in this thread whether you find this a fair compensation. We will then post the best on our site, with due references to the writer (unless s/he would like to remain anonymous). You keep the copyright permissions. Please send submissions to info@neuroprosthesis.org within a 15 day time frame. The results will be evaluated after that, and announced on September 15 on our site (unless we have 100,000 submissions and will have to beg for patience and time). Thanks.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A259 89-2002Jun21.html
I few hours ago I wrote that this is probably IRIS SCAN technology. All you need is to stand near the video camera - plus a data base in the background (this is why they are thinking about frequent flyers). No artificial eyes, no special contact lenses would do. Even identical twins have very different irises. But there was a scene on Nash Bridges where the bad guys got around this technology - they held a gun to the back of the security guard, whose iris codes were already in the data base of the bank! - an unlikely method these days on an airport to fool the video camera/computer search system. Eye transplants may work some day, if they can properly reconnect the eyes to at least stay alive ... for a living iris it does not need to be functional, but the pupil needs to be able to "pulsate".
Retinal scan is more _intrusive_ - probably this is why it's more interesting for the Spielberg like futuristic films.
You just need to stand near the camera. It does not work with artificial eyes, or contact lenses, because the designers of the method also test pupil dilation - Blade Runner like :-)
John Daugman (now in Cambridge England then at Harvard) developed the efficient coding method. According to the legend, the James Bond film Never Say Never uses Iris Scans. Retinal Scans are way more intrusive.
Neuroprosthesis News
you may agree or disagree with his article but why do some people make negative personal remarks about the author? especially ones which are not very insightful to say the least. to get back to the topics though. Try to enjoy newer and newer versions of LabVIEW, Statistica, SPSS, SPlus, Mathematica, MATLAB, Igor PRO and so on and so one on an endless list when all you want to do is some basic experiment ...
Neuroprosthesis News
We publish lots of related news on our site. From the remarks here I can see that Slashdot members are still not familiar with it, although we make a concerted effort to collect such news, provide discussions and some feedback in this highly publicized research field with the goal to help individuals with sensorimotor disabilities. Although I was consciously searching for the related Slashdot discussion, I simply did not have time to chime in earlier (see reasons on our site). So I am inviting you to visit if you are interested in related news and some background info. Neuroprosthesis News
Well, not exactly, sorry to disagree here. They specifically mention "interview and interrogation" - I'd rather read Winnie-the-Pooh in a funny-fuzzy translation then.
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Or CatSpeech.
NeuroProsthesis News
Wired magazine also pointed out the tastelessness and the weird symbolism (the destruction of the tower of Babel ??? ) of the logo. If you already discussed this very short article here, I apologize, if not and anyone is interested, I am happy to type it in tomorrow.
Neuroprosthesis News
I am quite happy that Slashdot readers/writers did not take the Economist Journalists' (Businessmen?) views all that seriously. I don't want to claim that there is no place for improvement. But such mind controlling implants were already used in research and to some extent monkeys and humans in the sixties and seventies. What's really new and not all that much revolutionary now is that the electronics is miniaturized to some extent - but it's one thing to resort to chronic electrode implants because nothing else seems to be able to desynchronize Parkinson's disease related tremor and another to ask for electrode arrays (even if they existed already) that could be used for cognitive enhancement! Please visit our site for some more balanced Science News and some background info. Quite a few of the research projects that you discussed here (following Press Releases) are presented there in a slightly different light - and also more informative in some sense than News articles even from Washington Post and New York Times Science and Technology section. Although I need to admit that some of the journalists do take the time to do some nice research in the field they write about. NeuroProsthesis News
why would you want to interrogate those poor rats?
why should you bother? John Chapin, the Chief Scientist on the project, is getting rich from this and he is as American as you can get. So what's your problem then? Do you really think that any politician would give more weight to your words against his?
and they attacked the Crazy Chief Scientist ...