reminds me of Dawkins description of how spiders spin their web with good economy and precision (in "Climbing Mount Improbable" ?). " they do not calculate or compute, they are just so."
No you don't open the hotel yourself. Many people donate you land and material. Many people help you plan and build the hotel. You then open the hotel for people. Usually, all those involved in the building of the hotel stay in it. And, when outsiders come and stay they give little or no money. But, that's ok. 'Coz you do not loose anyway.
If you had build the hotel with your money and open it for others, you are either a saint or a moron. You choose.
Why does this sound to me like "Observational selection" that Carl Sagan listed in his Baloney detection kit ? What about those who got rejected and did not exactly shake up the world later in their life ?
The effects of a rejection could be positive or negative. There could be many reasons why Greg Forbes Siegman did what he did...too many variables and circumstances. "theorising" does not seem to be the right thing to do.
Guess what.
"This year, a British telecom consultancy, Teleconomy, decided to check out if people sitting in London or Glasgow and sundry other British towns could make out whether the call centre agent of X, Y or Z company they were talking to on the phone was an Indian sitting in India or not."
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/html/u ncomp/articleshow?artid=32399333
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"..Since the freedom and civilization of modern society was won using violence against oppressors.."
Can't agree with that. How was India's freedom won ?
Of course, I know non-violent methods against a totally immoral opponent is very stupid. As ANYTHING in life goes, there various levels and angles to any idea or action. At your position, you make a sensible choice and stick to it. This allows you and your children to enjoy the fruits of your labor and convictions.
Why not both, like the subtitles in foreign language movies ? With facial expressions and text underneath, the deaf person stands a better chance of getting what is said.
USA coders (they are not the only people going OSS, anyway) do OSS dev for the fun of it. Indian coders do whatever they do for a living. Not always but true most of the time. The irony might be true in a sense but it is nevertheless a knee-jerk reaction and parochial.
Shouldn't something like a speech activated remote control be built into the TV ? We do have all the necessary technology already. It would be a great stress releiver to be able to shout, scream at the TV. Imagine screaming "CHANGE THE FSKING CHANNEL" at your TV and the TV meekly obliging...way too kewl..
As a developer in India, I feel quite distressed at this conflict of interests. As India tries to leapfrog from Agrarian to Services bypassing the Industrial era, much of the talent in India is used (or abused) to power this leap. It is those caught in the middle ground between agriculture and Services who are taking the beating here. Of course, if one includes the problems of poverty and population, then all this becomes a whole different ball game.
Yes. Enabling software for local languages is extremely important if software is ever going to affect the common man in India. A few laudable efforts are the indix project by IISc (forgot the link) and Mandrake 9.x support for indian languages.
Well, as someone working in India, I can assure you that "Indians compete better by working 20 hrs a day" is complete crap. I lead the team in my last project and never had a bunch of crap popping up whenever someone worked late. It affects quality, alright. It's plain stupid.
Working smart is the way to go. Even when the customer was changing the requirements, we were was able to manage as we had developed components to accomodate all the anticipated changes.
Anyways, even when there are good developers in India, it may be a long time before we move up the value-chain as the managers are still entrenched in colonial attitudes.
There are two lines of approach:-
1. learn the language , for which you learn the syntax.
2. learn how to acheive some business function using a language, for which you do analysis, design, yada yada..
Now, if we are talking about 2, you do it in a way that suits your style and inclinations (OO, Procedural. what not).
If we are talking about 1, then the best I can do is to shut up and listen to programmatically enlightened souls.
How about some humane perspective ?
Do you know how many are killed in road accidents in developed countries like America ? You should compare figures with India and then perhaps we can talk about "humane and civilized behavior" and "successful" large-scale infrastructure.
An "average" Indian does not measure development using the same scale as an "average" American or European. So, confine your muddled theory on "prerequisites" to yourself and your kind.
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If there are _far_too_many_ untrained people then it implies that trained (and arrogant by your implication) are _quite_less.
My heart follows the post and hopefully my mind will. ;-). Neat piece of writing.
reminds me of Dawkins description of how spiders spin their web with good economy and precision (in "Climbing Mount Improbable" ?). " they do not calculate or compute, they are just so."
No you don't open the hotel yourself. Many people donate you land and material. Many people help you plan and build the hotel. You then open the hotel for people. Usually, all those involved in the building of the hotel stay in it. And, when outsiders come and stay they give little or no money. But, that's ok. 'Coz you do not loose anyway. If you had build the hotel with your money and open it for others, you are either a saint or a moron. You choose.
huh... look at this this way... if the teacher hadn't done it..
Past is a cold dead place. It is only the dead who live there.
Why does this sound to me like "Observational selection" that Carl Sagan listed in his Baloney detection kit ? What about those who got rejected and did not exactly shake up the world later in their life ?
The effects of a rejection could be positive or negative. There could be many reasons why Greg Forbes Siegman did what he did...too many variables and circumstances. "theorising" does not seem to be the right thing to do.
amen. brother.
Guess what. "This year, a British telecom consultancy, Teleconomy, decided to check out if people sitting in London or Glasgow and sundry other British towns could make out whether the call centre agent of X, Y or Z company they were talking to on the phone was an Indian sitting in India or not." http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/html/u ncomp/articleshow?artid=32399333
"..Since the freedom and civilization of modern society was won using violence against oppressors.."
Can't agree with that. How was India's freedom won ?
Of course, I know non-violent methods against a totally immoral opponent is very stupid. As ANYTHING in life goes, there various levels and angles to any idea or action. At your position, you make a sensible choice and stick to it. This allows you and your children to enjoy the fruits of your labor and convictions.
Why not both, like the subtitles in foreign language movies ? With facial expressions and text underneath, the deaf person stands a better chance of getting what is said.
USA coders (they are not the only people going OSS, anyway) do OSS dev for the fun of it. Indian coders do whatever they do for a living. Not always but true most of the time. The irony might be true in a sense but it is nevertheless a knee-jerk reaction and parochial.
more like...cannot bath for a whole year, since much dirt originates from within the body..
Shouldn't something like a speech activated remote control be built into the TV ? We do have all the necessary technology already.
It would be a great stress releiver to be able to shout, scream at the TV. Imagine screaming "CHANGE THE FSKING CHANNEL" at your TV and the TV meekly obliging...way too kewl..
As a developer in India, I feel quite distressed at this conflict of interests. As India tries to leapfrog from Agrarian to Services bypassing the Industrial era, much of the talent in India is used (or abused) to power this leap. It is those caught in the middle ground between agriculture and Services who are taking the beating here. Of course, if one includes the problems of poverty and population, then all this becomes a whole different ball game.
Lay eggs..? that's how the bulbs looked at first...
MS Word created HTML to display one line : "MS-HTML"
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oh.. alright. For Mandrake checkout tamilinux group at yahoogroups.com and mandrake site.
Yes. Enabling software for local languages is extremely important if software is ever going to affect the common man in India. A few laudable efforts are the indix project by IISc (forgot the link) and Mandrake 9.x support for indian languages.
Still searching for my sig.
Well, as someone working in India, I can assure you that "Indians compete better by working 20 hrs a day" is complete crap. I lead the team in my last project and never had a bunch of crap popping up whenever someone worked late. It affects quality, alright. It's plain stupid.
Working smart is the way to go. Even when the customer was changing the requirements, we were was able to manage as we had developed components to accomodate all the anticipated changes.
Anyways, even when there are good developers in India, it may be a long time before we move up the value-chain as the managers are still entrenched in colonial attitudes.
There are two lines of approach:- 1. learn the language , for which you learn the syntax. 2. learn how to acheive some business function using a language, for which you do analysis, design, yada yada.. Now, if we are talking about 2, you do it in a way that suits your style and inclinations (OO, Procedural. what not). If we are talking about 1, then the best I can do is to shut up and listen to programmatically enlightened souls.
For some good physics fun, there is "Feynman's Lectures". And loosen up a bit. There's nobody who can *fully* comprehend *stuff* !
How about some humane perspective ? Do you know how many are killed in road accidents in developed countries like America ? You should compare figures with India and then perhaps we can talk about "humane and civilized behavior" and "successful" large-scale infrastructure. An "average" Indian does not measure development using the same scale as an "average" American or European. So, confine your muddled theory on "prerequisites" to yourself and your kind.