Actually, you can really tell someone has no business installing Linux when they go on what I like to call a "multiple distribution installation rampage", or MDIR. Its what n00bs do when one particular distro doesn't setup something automatically for them. Its sad really, especially when someone writes an article actually ADMITTING to MDIR, they are basically admitting they didn't do one lick of homework before attempting to install...or even consult an expert. Kinda hard to take what he has to say seriously when he can't even do some simple research.
All the guy needed to do was look and fscking see if his sound card was supported by ALSA. Is that so hard?
Anyway, I hope that this message reaches someone and saves them from MDIR. Learning how to use Linux correctly is a lot more fun than installing 9 distros.
Has anyone ever checked out the AT&T wireless coverage maps? Your 'local calling area' (the places where you don't roam') are like a shade of orange lighter than the 'roaming' area. So to many males and people with less than good eyesight, it all looks the same.
If you have as much money as MS does, your pretty much untouchable under any regime, unless of course if Stallman was president. (now that would be +5 funny as hell)
I would really like to see the FTC come down on MS with the full force of the law for this. Baystar admits MS execs called them to discuss a SCO investment. This was well into the FUD campaign and the leaked email suggests they were going to keep funding it. If a convicted monopoly secretely funding legal action against its only competitor is not illegal, I don't know what is. You can't smoke pot in this country, but this is ok?
I think things are really going to get interesting now. When Sun becomes the new anti-linux golden boy for MS, SCO might get jealous and probably turn on MS. FUDMaster vs FUDMaster.
Are you guys all forgeting the MS + Baystar connection? The leaked memo? That shit totally fucked SCO over, MS wants out badly. There are serious legal implications for MS if a investigation shows they directly or even indirectly funded this. At least now, the company can claim plausable deniabilty.
Next time they'll be smarter though. The plan now is for SCO to back out before the GPL is held up in US court and for someone else to come in and carry the FUD torch against Linux. Its probably going to suit patent related.
No, its just there are a lot of people from Sun who hang out here and I like to mess with them by posting a "sun sucks" message every time they are mentioned.
BTW - we've all known it for quite some time, don't try to hide it. Sun sucks.
This means Sun is going to be around even longer!?! Man. That sucks. I wish they would take their 'now we love linux, now we don't' attitude and bugger off.
They chose it because C++ is basically the standard for GUI development. Programmers who do a lot of work with MFC will find the transition to QT easier and there is also the STL. So, to me, the choice of a C++ toolkit seems obvious and is probably the only reason QT was chosen.
As I said, he did what he felt was in the best interests of his company, which is exactly what his is paid to do.
And low and behold, ideals and morals would have panned out better in this situation so your theory is wrong.
Not to mention, OSS idealism has nothing to do with this. You don't have to be clued into the OSS community to know you don't bow to extortionists. Most of the other companies who received the letter are not 'Linux Zealots' and they didn't cave in to some company claiming 'all your kernel are belong to us'.
The fact of the matter is that NV1 payed money to a company making erroneous claims because they thought they could make money from those claims as well. (just look how much the SCO execs have made lying their ass off) NV1 had to know perfectly well that what SCO was saying is FUD and greed led them to where they are now. I say F them. Its immoral and they are paying the price now. I hope they pay again and again until NV1 is simply a memory. Some things can't be forgiven.
Err, the 'ferver' is what happens when so many people have put real blood/sweat/tears into open source. I don't know if its religion more than it is pride
Well,sorry. I believe forks are good no matter why they happen and XFree was ripe for forking. I'm sure most of them happen because of differences between the development team, who cares? If people are not happy they shouldn't feel like they have to stay, thats just a recipe for bad code. The end result of a fork is still the same no matter why it happens, more code, more choices, more features, fun for everyone (not just the people who play CVS god)
Noone is trying to reinvent the X11 protocol. The XFree forks have mainly come about because more and more people are using Linux and finding XFree a large barrier to entry. We want something faster, smarter, and with tons of shiny new features as well as compatability. If you've looked at any of the XFree forks, noone is breaking X11, they are just trying to develop XFree under a more open model.
Its the users who need to have more involvment, not the developers. Gentoo already is basically a gaming based distro for many people. Gentoo is why Linux gaming is more popular than it ever was. And there is Knoppix??!?!
A Linux distro with games is not new. Mandrake Gaming edtion anyone?
If anything,its the USERS who need to start lobbying the publishers, not the develpopers. Once critical mass hits and the number of Linux gamers mean $$$$$ then we'll see games. Its really as simple as that.
BTW....UT2004 is the best game ever to be released for Linux. I love you Epic.
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Actually, you can really tell someone has no business installing Linux when they go on what I like to call a "multiple distribution installation rampage", or MDIR. Its what n00bs do when one particular distro doesn't setup something automatically for them. Its sad really, especially when someone writes an article actually ADMITTING to MDIR, they are basically admitting they didn't do one lick of homework before attempting to install...or even consult an expert. Kinda hard to take what he has to say seriously when he can't even do some simple research.
All the guy needed to do was look and fscking see if his sound card was supported by ALSA. Is that so hard?
Anyway, I hope that this message reaches someone and saves them from MDIR. Learning how to use Linux correctly is a lot more fun than installing 9 distros.
Aluminum tubes man, do you know what you can do with an aluminum fucking tube?
Baystar specifically said 'Microsoft executives' made the call.
Has anyone ever checked out the AT&T wireless coverage maps? Your 'local calling area' (the places where you don't roam') are like a shade of orange lighter than the 'roaming' area. So to many males and people with less than good eyesight, it all looks the same.
Check it out on your own at http://www.mlife.com
If you have as much money as MS does, your pretty much untouchable under any regime, unless of course if Stallman was president. (now that would be +5 funny as hell)
I would really like to see the FTC come down on MS with the full force of the law for this. Baystar admits MS execs called them to discuss a SCO investment. This was well into the FUD campaign and the leaked email suggests they were going to keep funding it. If a convicted monopoly secretely funding legal action against its only competitor is not illegal, I don't know what is. You can't smoke pot in this country, but this is ok?
I think things are really going to get interesting now. When Sun becomes the new anti-linux golden boy for MS, SCO might get jealous and probably turn on MS. FUDMaster vs FUDMaster.
Are you guys all forgeting the MS + Baystar connection? The leaked memo? That shit totally fucked SCO over, MS wants out badly. There are serious legal implications for MS if a investigation shows they directly or even indirectly funded this. At least now, the company can claim plausable deniabilty.
Next time they'll be smarter though. The plan now is for SCO to back out before the GPL is held up in US court and for someone else to come in and carry the FUD torch against Linux. Its probably going to suit patent related.
Magnet power cars are a threat to national security.
No, its just there are a lot of people from Sun who hang out here and I like to mess with them by posting a "sun sucks" message every time they are mentioned.
BTW - we've all known it for quite some time, don't try to hide it. Sun sucks.
and I'll say it again. Sun sucks a big fat one.
aid Dr. Paul Terry, CTO of Cray Canada.
and I'll say it again, and get modded down again..but I got karma to burn. Sun sucks. They are a POS company driven by greed.
Actually, what happened was that Dan Gillmor felt he needed to jump on the bandwagon now. Dan is puts anyway.
This means Sun is going to be around even longer!?! Man. That sucks. I wish they would take their 'now we love linux, now we don't' attitude and bugger off.
Why enter the market now? Didn't they learn their lesson before?
They chose it because C++ is basically the standard for GUI development. Programmers who do a lot of work with MFC will find the transition to QT easier and there is also the STL. So, to me, the choice of a C++ toolkit seems obvious and is probably the only reason QT was chosen.
Novell Linux will definately have a transparent kicker!!! w00t W00t
And low and behold, ideals and morals would have panned out better in this situation so your theory is wrong.
Not to mention, OSS idealism has nothing to do with this. You don't have to be clued into the OSS community to know you don't bow to extortionists. Most of the other companies who received the letter are not 'Linux Zealots' and they didn't cave in to some company claiming 'all your kernel are belong to us'.
The fact of the matter is that NV1 payed money to a company making erroneous claims because they thought they could make money from those claims as well. (just look how much the SCO execs have made lying their ass off) NV1 had to know perfectly well that what SCO was saying is FUD and greed led them to where they are now. I say F them. Its immoral and they are paying the price now. I hope they pay again and again until NV1 is simply a memory. Some things can't be forgiven.
Yeah, we all twisted his arm to use Linux.
Err, the 'ferver' is what happens when so many people have put real blood/sweat/tears into open source. I don't know if its religion more than it is pride
Too bad Sun sucks and they are dirty SCO supporters.
Well,sorry. I believe forks are good no matter why they happen and XFree was ripe for forking. I'm sure most of them happen because of differences between the development team, who cares? If people are not happy they shouldn't feel like they have to stay, thats just a recipe for bad code. The end result of a fork is still the same no matter why it happens, more code, more choices, more features, fun for everyone (not just the people who play CVS god)
Noone is trying to reinvent the X11 protocol. The XFree forks have mainly come about because more and more people are using Linux and finding XFree a large barrier to entry. We want something faster, smarter, and with tons of shiny new features as well as compatability. If you've looked at any of the XFree forks, noone is breaking X11, they are just trying to develop XFree under a more open model.
You mean copyright infringment. Theft is criminal law, publising someone elses paper without permission is civil law.
Guys with Texas accents wearing the words 'Bush' on the back of their jackets neeed to 'inspect' the machines?
Forks are good for open source man. Do your homework.
Its the users who need to have more involvment, not the developers. Gentoo already is basically a gaming based distro for many people. Gentoo is why Linux gaming is more popular than it ever was. And there is Knoppix??!?! A Linux distro with games is not new. Mandrake Gaming edtion anyone? If anything,its the USERS who need to start lobbying the publishers, not the develpopers. Once critical mass hits and the number of Linux gamers mean $$$$$ then we'll see games. Its really as simple as that. BTW....UT2004 is the best game ever to be released for Linux. I love you Epic.