The internet archive has been involved with this for more than 8 years. Amazon also has had the search inside the book for longer than Google has been running google print.
I thought the point of the clicker were to override the need for todays students to "fit within the norm". thus when a student has a problem that student can make it known to the teacher without making it know to everyone in the class or even identifying himself for a potential scorn. I think there is an essay about this in "Freakanomics" but then again it could be another pop econ book that I read.
Did you even read the page that was linked to? Even though it is faster to have done so than to have posted on slashdot, for most here it is better to stay uninformed.
At one time that was google's 'pages like this one', and then there are Alexa's "Related Links", which have been around since before Google. Unfortunately there are privacy issues, and there would be (and is for alexa) a whole industry built around gaming that system.
It is entirely possible that Yahoo not only crawls more content on a whole, but the percentage of the content that they crawl that is spam is smaller. Crawlers get to spam/SEO pages via other spam/SEO pages, thus if they have better filtering mechanisms they may simply stop earlier and put their (not completely unlimited) resources into crawling more useful data.
They are potential copyright violations that the copyright owner's could sue over. That is why the Wayback Machine retroactively respects robots.txt. If they deal with it very quickly the copyright holder has no real reason to sue. Also Brewster (Founder of the Internet Archive) will pretty much take anything down that there is any question about. It helps that archive.org doesn't collect any ad revenue, or charge for the archive use.
They do have a right to scan books that they own, but they don't have a right to copy all of a libraries' book, nor do they have the right to distribute (AKA show to you) any pages from these books. Also it would be a likely copyright violation if they bought tons of books scanned them and the sold them.
Amazon's text is searchable but they do have some safeguards in place to placate the publishers. I think you have to actually be semi (gold box access) logged into an Amazon account to use look/search inside the book.
That patent application covers any sort of automated targetting, not just geo-targetting. On any syndicated feed, not just rss. It is a very broad patent (and will be hard to defend).
B) Yahoo owns the '361 patent which covers a key component of Adsense (bid for placement), and the settlement pretty much gives Yahoo free reign of Google's patent portfolio.
in the current climate you NEED to take any patent you can, that is why google has patented highlighting search results yet slashdot never informed anyone of this. Basically only Amazon's patents are reported here. Also it isn't just web services that have been patented, since there are very few people here can actually read a patent to know what it actually covers or how narrow it actually is.
then there is the fact that contrary to popular belief amazon has rarely used their VAST patent portfolio in any sort of offensive way. Yes they went after BN.com after they had simply copied amazon's website. That case never went to trial as it was settled. Then there is Cedent, who first went after amazon for patent infringement, only when they wouldn't settle did amazon legally remind them that they were infringing on amazon's patents. Stop looking at the world with slashdot glasses!
Amazon has enforced patents twice in it's history. One against BN.com after barnes and noble instead of trying to develop their own website completely copied amazon's design just before a christmas shopping season. They did this while in the middle of a back and forth of progressively ruder press releases by each company. In the end Amazon got the last laugh on that one. The Second time when Cedent tried to enforce one of their patents on Amazon. Amazon quickly reminded them that they are (as well as most all of the net, slashdot included) infringing on some of their patents. Cedent realized that Amazon would get much worse press for enforsing a patent than Cedent would even though Cedent shot first and Amazon was simply defending themselves.
Two suits in ten years, both the result of a pissing war. Do you have any idea how many businesses infringe on the Credit Card info over a non-secure connection patent (the cedent suit)? Anyone that keeps your CC number in a database then shows the last 4 digits (although the patent says it could be any just not the whole thing).
The back of my copy of "Canadian Amp" by Neko Case (which is rare and out of print), says something to the effect of "this record is for personal use, not to be put on the internet for download, we have bills too you know". That is pretty much disagrees with you.
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The internet archive has been involved with this for more than 8 years. Amazon also has had the search inside the book for longer than Google has been running google print.
Mr Brin must have had his maid stop polishing the gold bidet for a week.
R)ead T)he F)!#*ing (insert others things here)
I thought the point of the clicker were to override the need for todays students to "fit within the norm". thus when a student has a problem that student can make it known to the teacher without making it know to everyone in the class or even identifying himself for a potential scorn. I think there is an essay about this in "Freakanomics" but then again it could be another pop econ book that I read.
Did you even read the page that was linked to? Even though it is faster to have done so than to have posted on slashdot, for most here it is better to stay uninformed.
At one time that was google's 'pages like this one', and then there are Alexa's "Related Links", which have been around since before Google. Unfortunately there are privacy issues, and there would be (and is for alexa) a whole industry built around gaming that system.
It is entirely possible that Yahoo not only crawls more content on a whole, but the percentage of the content that they crawl that is spam is smaller. Crawlers get to spam/SEO pages via other spam/SEO pages, thus if they have better filtering mechanisms they may simply stop earlier and put their (not completely unlimited) resources into crawling more useful data.
I actually get three pages of straight up crap from Google. Maybe the truth is that Yahoo! is better at filtering SEO pages.
Haven't we read this shit before?
They are potential copyright violations that the copyright owner's could sue over. That is why the Wayback Machine retroactively respects robots.txt. If they deal with it very quickly the copyright holder has no real reason to sue. Also Brewster (Founder of the Internet Archive) will pretty much take anything down that there is any question about. It helps that archive.org doesn't collect any ad revenue, or charge for the archive use.
They do have a right to scan books that they own, but they don't have a right to copy all of a libraries' book, nor do they have the right to distribute (AKA show to you) any pages from these books. Also it would be a likely copyright violation if they bought tons of books scanned them and the sold them.
Amazon's text is searchable but they do have some safeguards in place to placate the publishers. I think you have to actually be semi (gold box access) logged into an Amazon account to use look/search inside the book.
The most insightful post of the bunch.
That patent application covers any sort of automated targetting, not just geo-targetting. On any syndicated feed, not just rss. It is a very broad patent (and will be hard to defend).
A) They filed a patent but it isn't yet awarded
B) Yahoo owns the '361 patent which covers a key component of Adsense (bid for placement), and the settlement pretty much gives Yahoo free reign of Google's patent portfolio.
There is no such thing at least on manned flights, maybe fixing the hubble counts, that that is about it.
in the current climate you NEED to take any patent you can, that is why google has patented highlighting search results yet slashdot never informed anyone of this. Basically only Amazon's patents are reported here. Also it isn't just web services that have been patented, since there are very few people here can actually read a patent to know what it actually covers or how narrow it actually is.
then there is the fact that contrary to popular belief amazon has rarely used their VAST patent portfolio in any sort of offensive way. Yes they went after BN.com after they had simply copied amazon's website. That case never went to trial as it was settled. Then there is Cedent, who first went after amazon for patent infringement, only when they wouldn't settle did amazon legally remind them that they were infringing on amazon's patents. Stop looking at the world with slashdot glasses!
Amazon has enforced patents twice in it's history. One against BN.com after barnes and noble instead of trying to develop their own website completely copied amazon's design just before a christmas shopping season. They did this while in the middle of a back and forth of progressively ruder press releases by each company. In the end Amazon got the last laugh on that one. The Second time when Cedent tried to enforce one of their patents on Amazon. Amazon quickly reminded them that they are (as well as most all of the net, slashdot included) infringing on some of their patents. Cedent realized that Amazon would get much worse press for enforsing a patent than Cedent would even though Cedent shot first and Amazon was simply defending themselves.
Googles tries to patent syndication ads
Two suits in ten years, both the result of a pissing war. Do you have any idea how many businesses infringe on the Credit Card info over a non-secure connection patent (the cedent suit)? Anyone that keeps your CC number in a database then shows the last 4 digits (although the patent says it could be any just not the whole thing).
The back of my copy of "Canadian Amp" by Neko Case (which is rare and out of print), says something to the effect of "this record is for personal use, not to be put on the internet for download, we have bills too you know". That is pretty much disagrees with you.
Slashdot uses adwords so google probably pays for almost all of it.
this page was active in January of 1999, maybe google should stop copying other peoples ideas.
In that case they even have the same copyright Navtec.
let alone the fact that the Shuffle doesn't have a stupid custom usb cable to lose or have carry around to charge the thing.