Now days I do a lot less "RTFM" and more "You know you could have answered this yourself with a quick google search. Click $HERE, it was the top result for exactly your question"
A WoT pilot aired an I haven't heard anything about it? Given that I frequent many websites that would have trumpeted such a creature from rooftops, I find it odd I haven't heard about it. It must have been a steaming pile of rancid monkey chunks.
If every time you build a VM or host to do this development on you have to spend 1-2 hours doing a config, you're doing it wrong!
Make a checklist of stuff that needs to be updated and keep around copies of working config files. Chances are you typically like all the same settings and for the most part you can just drop a php.ini that you have that worked and be done with it.
Same goes for VHost config files.
Same goes for installing necessary things. copy/paste the yum or apt command lines to install them.
Better yet, keep around a VM Image that's all ready, just change the hostname/IP etc and you're done. Take advantage of snapshot functionality in your hypervisor.
I have actually seen someone who has used Linux for 10+ years try and install Zoneminder on a system and after 2 days of agony nuke the entire virtual machine and start with another distribution thanks to dependency hell which could make a dll blush.
Then that "someone" either sucks or is having to admin boxes that were poorly built / maintained. That sort of thing just doesn't happen on a well managed system. Ever,
For the most part people thank their lucky stars when a linux system works at all (unless of course it is a server sitting in the corner humming away on one task).
You clearly know nothing about linux and have never been a system administrator if that's how you think.
Adopting systemd as the One True Initcould spell the beginning of the end of debian being lauded as the most "Stable and Secure" of all the distros. It's definitely bad on all counts for those of us who use linux for things other than our personal laptops. Systemd has no business on a server IMHO and it's going to suck and suck hard when it's forced on all of us (CentOS/RH 7 too are both systemd based, which is very upsetting).
As someone who's been a linux user and admin on a daily basis since the late '90s, let me say I am entirely unsurprised. Our developer community is not great at doing accelerated graphics drivers and the vendors all turn out sub-par binary blob laden drivers. The linux gaming thing has been a pie-in-the-sky pipe dream for years, I pretty much knew valve wouldn't be able to make it happen. I was hoping I would be proved wrong, but it isn't looking good.
On the bright side, I don't have time to game anymore so I don't really care =)
I am in this camp. I don't really want to have to use another tool to dump logs to plain text. I hate the fact that systemd is piece by piece replacing so very very many things which don't need to be replaced. I've followed many discussions on forums of people having trouble with a daemon and the debugging of that demon is made MORE complex by the fact that it is managed by systemd. Dependency based boot sequence is foolish on a server where you sort out the boot sequence once and expect it to work the exact same way EVERY TIME. Dep based boot might make sense on a desktop or a laptop where you may change your network location or attached hardware between boots (laptop-mode-tools anyone?)
The biggest thing I think is the problem is that when these issues are brought up to the systemd folks, the attitude from them is invariably microsoft-like or apple-like, "You don't know what's good for you, we do. So STFU and L2SYSTEMD NUB!"
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Now days I do a lot less "RTFM" and more "You know you could have answered this yourself with a quick google search. Click $HERE, it was the top result for exactly your question"
Fuck off! And not view the site. Which is probably crap anyway.
One failed disk takes your site offline? YOU'RE DOIN' IT WRONG!
A WoT pilot aired an I haven't heard anything about it? Given that I frequent many websites that would have trumpeted such a creature from rooftops, I find it odd I haven't heard about it. It must have been a steaming pile of rancid monkey chunks.
So you're saying that Inertial dampeners and heisenberg compensators will never be a real thing?
Then fuck this planet and it's broken laws of physics!
If every time you build a VM or host to do this development on you have to spend 1-2 hours doing a config, you're doing it wrong!
Make a checklist of stuff that needs to be updated and keep around copies of working config files. Chances are you typically like all the same settings and for the most part you can just drop a php.ini that you have that worked and be done with it.
Same goes for VHost config files.
Same goes for installing necessary things. copy/paste the yum or apt command lines to install them.
Better yet, keep around a VM Image that's all ready, just change the hostname/IP etc and you're done. Take advantage of snapshot functionality in your hypervisor.
In other words, they powers that be will nerf the fuck out of peoples ability to produce/sell/buy these batteries. Because fuck you that's why!
Perhaps he's not as pissed at us for the rampant Gay as the far right wing bible banging charlatans would have us believe!
On a more serious note, this is weird right? Isn't this the exact opposite of expected virus behavior? To evolve to become LESS likely to spread?
But they gotta fill the fucker with gators and poe-ranna and flying fucking sharks. Also make the water poison, and electrified.
I have actually seen someone who has used Linux for 10+ years try and install Zoneminder on a system and after 2 days of agony nuke the entire virtual machine and start with another distribution thanks to dependency hell which could make a dll blush.
Then that "someone" either sucks or is having to admin boxes that were poorly built / maintained. That sort of thing just doesn't happen on a well managed system. Ever,
If this kid has a memory like this he should be doing more important things than learning how to be a windows admin.
For the most part people thank their lucky stars when a linux system works at all (unless of course it is a server sitting in the corner humming away on one task).
You clearly know nothing about linux and have never been a system administrator if that's how you think.
which just cannot be ignored.
The problem is that it is all being ignored. Completely.
I for one fully understand your choice.
Adopting systemd as the One True Initcould spell the beginning of the end of debian being lauded as the most "Stable and Secure" of all the distros. It's definitely bad on all counts for those of us who use linux for things other than our personal laptops. Systemd has no business on a server IMHO and it's going to suck and suck hard when it's forced on all of us (CentOS/RH 7 too are both systemd based, which is very upsetting).
As someone who's been a linux user and admin on a daily basis since the late '90s, let me say I am entirely unsurprised. Our developer community is not great at doing accelerated graphics drivers and the vendors all turn out sub-par binary blob laden drivers. The linux gaming thing has been a pie-in-the-sky pipe dream for years, I pretty much knew valve wouldn't be able to make it happen. I was hoping I would be proved wrong, but it isn't looking good.
On the bright side, I don't have time to game anymore so I don't really care =)
"Now that Windows is kinda-sorta-Unix-like"
Wtf?
wat
The fanboy is strong in you. You must be a lennart disciple.
I am in this camp. I don't really want to have to use another tool to dump logs to plain text. I hate the fact that systemd is piece by piece replacing so very very many things which don't need to be replaced. I've followed many discussions on forums of people having trouble with a daemon and the debugging of that demon is made MORE complex by the fact that it is managed by systemd. Dependency based boot sequence is foolish on a server where you sort out the boot sequence once and expect it to work the exact same way EVERY TIME. Dep based boot might make sense on a desktop or a laptop where you may change your network location or attached hardware between boots (laptop-mode-tools anyone?)
The biggest thing I think is the problem is that when these issues are brought up to the systemd folks, the attitude from them is invariably microsoft-like or apple-like, "You don't know what's good for you, we do. So STFU and L2SYSTEMD NUB!"
Systemd is bad, very bad.
Everyone knows jesus created ALL THE THINGS like 2000 years ago.
stupid scientists! /s
Fuck Mir, Fuck canonical.
They should stop trying to re-invent-ALLTHEWHEELS and work on unfucked their broken ass desktop first. It's a buggy, unstable POS.
Say it again, brother!
I call shenanigans. If so, fuck CUPS!
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Blowjobs. Lots and lots of blowjobs.