Solaris is very finegrained for good SMP performance, but Linux wipes the floor with it when running on one or 2 CPU's.. anymore then that, and Slowlaris makes more sense...
(as long as you don't do someting dumb like run Gnome on it... Ok, I use Gnome sometimes, but it is a quite resource hungry setup. If you want more speed, use afterstep or just about anything else;-)
Really? Even with a sigkill? (kill -s 9) I have NEVER had an unkillable process in ~4 years on the 11 different servers I have used and/or administered... I have heard of zombied processes, but one should very very rarely run into one...
the main reason their games were massively overpriced (compared to, say, playstation) was based on chioce of using faster "carts" that were rom based vs playstations much cheaper cd's. This accounts for about an extra $10 in the productin costs, paid for by the purchaser, of course...
Truth is, I would like there to be no guns. I really really would.. But that's not gonna happen. So, I will keep my gun until you can get the criminals to give up theirs.
Wrong... Do some real research, and you'll find guns are used most often as deturents, and never fired.. Legal guns are used effectivly to stop crime then accidents occur by a factor of 50 or so...
Ok, Abit is taking RedHat, customizing the install bootdisk and kernel, adding at least one new tool, and giving it away free over the internet and with EVERY new motherboard shipped.. That's right, every motherboard that leaves Abit's hands will come with Linux. What are you all wining about? It's not as if they decided to throw out the conventional file layout or config format or ANYTING... It seems this is a free, officially unsuported release of Linux made to work easily on their hardware and any other hardware out there. I can't see any downside, except that people might not know they are really using a RedHat variant. First we complain Linux isn't getting enough respect.. Then a company ships out a Linux distro with it's products, and all we can do is wine. This move by Abit is a good thing that will put Linux in the hands of more people who wouldn't otherwise have it, and make it easier to install on a particular piece of hardware.
Why should your mom have too? Unless she is the one buying a new sound card and installing it, which shows she has some sort of technical skill already... Not everyone has the ability to be a Linux admin., but not everyone needs to be... There is a space for pure users, who can call on you occationally if they have a problem.. Solaris, etc have been filling this nitch in business for ages..
To learn to drive a car, you need to learn how the controls work. (and this is not an inherently easy thing.. I know people who still haven't done so well.;-) You need to know nothing about the internals, only the input and output.. To use a "expert" computer system, the same is true. YOu don't need to know that the input you give it is added to a linked list internally, you just need to know what that input will affect. Much like you don't need to know what a microwave does with the numbers you give it, but you need to know how to set the time you want your food cooked.
Um... I don't want to drive, because it requires learning. I want to walk. Yes, getting stuff done is the goal. However, to get stuff done over the long term, generally it is much more efficient to spend some time learning in the short term. *nix is fast most importantly automatible(it is possible to script and schedule EVERYTHING) once you invest a short amount of time learning how to use it. No, I'm not gonna give my grandma a Linux box, I'll give her a webTV, as that's all the computing power she needs, with no added problems. However, if anyone is inclined to learn an OS, Linux and it's concepts aren't any more complicated then Windows is.
"We should learn from Microsoft's attempts, however failed, to make a computer into a thing you can use like an appliance, not shun them." I'm sorry, I must have dozed off while Microsoft has done this. Could you tell me how they have? "Microsoft computers", by which I assume you mean Windows 95/98/2000/NT are now still less like appliances then amigas or Macs of 10 years ago. MIcrosoft was lucky enough to get on a platform that became in a way the "de facto standard" of the computer world, and have either made poor clones of other products, or bought out other companies and used their products. About the only thing Microsoft has come up with is naming a button on the GUI "Start".
Ok, to be fair, Linux hasn't been all that much of a revolution in computing interfaces either. However, it is much more suited to building a kiosk or appliance layer on top of. Linux is more then a kernel that runs X and a desktop complete with file tools and all, it is a kernel that can be used in digital VCR like devices, palm pilots, web servers, conventional PC like desktops, informational kiosks, dumb terminals, single perpose monitoring and custom screen interfaces in manufacturing plants, in video game consoles, etc. Linux is more then the conventional desktop, it can be used in most any market of computers you can think of. And if it doesn't have the interface you like yet, you can build your own. Linux is freedom to create, use only what you want of the os, and no more...
It's not about the keyboard.. its' about the mouse.. Every decent player I play against plays with the mouse/keyboard combo, bar none.. Keyboard for all kinds of weapon switching, strafing, etc, and mouse for aiming..
Unix is old, not archaic. Old=old Archaic=old, and most everyone agrees much better things have come along. Old things can still be good (ala a Rembrant painting) Old things can also be archaic, ala Motif or cp/m.
Right now I'd settle for the Quake3 arena point release, and mod source for linux. I thought id was planning on keeping all platforms in sync? It's been about 2 weeks since the win. point release came out, and us Linuxers don't get to play any mods or have the benifit of the new serverbrowser or anything... Lets get that thing out the door!
Heavy Gear II is coming out from Loki soon.. I like that one more then Mechwarrior anyway.. Railroad Tycoon is in the same vein as Rollercoaster Tycoon(from what I hear, never played wither..), and that has been out by loki for a while.
Well, Crusoe was designed for low power use, then they tried to get speed out of it.. "Efficiency"=Power efficiency, not speed efficiency. It is slower then other x86 chips per mhz, but paster per watt. Therefore, they have done a good job at what they wanted to do. No, it's not an alpha or a k7, but it wasn't designed to be.
Prove it. US birth rates are dropping dramatically, China also. Everywhere I look, the population is dropping. Also, there is more then enough food for the current population, but distribution sucks (mostly because 2% of the world owns 90% of the worlds wealth, and last month I spent more on internet access then most families in the world would make in the same period of time.. And my cable access is $50 us..) Also, the areas were there are starving people are not that way because there are too many people, but because there is a very crappy governmental system. The problems we will be facing in the US are mostly because there aren't enough babies being born to keep the population at the same size, much less growing. Recession will come, not from overpopulation, but under.
Plastics also seem to be a factor in the dropping male sperm count, and lowering of testosterone in males. Check these links for some beginning info. http://www.sciencenews.org/sn_arc99/4_3_99/fob3. htm http://www.scitec.auckland.ac.nz/~king/Preprints /book/renewal/voices2/femn.htm
This is a program that is almost ready for normal use that tries to make undeletion easier. It's not a perfect solution, but should work if the file has been deleted recently. It askes you for whatever information you know about the file, then searches for the correct inode.
"Us yanks" are fine... Some of our more rich corperations that will fight tooth and nail to stay that way and steamroll any new thecnology that gets in their way. But most companies and people are fine here, really. There's just a few big bullies that delight in trying to ruin all our fun.;-)
"A "women's magazine" is obviously designed to sell to women, just like how Maxim and Details are geared towards men. There's no problem with this (in relation to your complaint) because the domains of the respective magazines are defined along gender lines. These magazines aren't trying to reach everyone."
And computer magazines target is teenage guys. If more girls were interested, more magazines would target them. This is kind of like Linux games.. No one was decrying the fact that because there were no comercial games for Linux, that it was driving gamers away, though it certainly was. So? It's the game magazines job to sell to who will buy. If someone thought they could market a magazine more to girls, they are quite free to do so. I also think that these few examples are not quite what you would see in you average gaming mag either..
As for Tomb raider being exploitive, I have a woman friend who that is the only PC game she will play because she likes the powerful woman premise of the game, and the puzzles are nifty too.. (She is also the only female I know personally who plays anything more then minesweeper.)
In further reference to the "exploitive" issue, would you agree that magazines like "seventeen" and other such teeny-bopper rags are just as exploitive of men? I realize this and other "exploitive" things I can figure out are aimed squarely at girls, but so are the gaming mags aimed at guys. So?
If you don't like the current game rags, don't buy them. Only buy the games you like. There are certainly enough games from any genre out there that there must be SOMETHING you like. If enough girls want something, the market will provide it, much like the market has begun to provide Linux games. The market owes you nothing.
If you see such a great future in women gaming, go start your own frigging company and provide it like Loki has for linux games. If not, go complain to the people who make the curent ones. Talking to me will help none. (I'm hard headed, if you haven't realized by now;-)
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I'd just like to say:
BAAAHHAHHHAHHHAHHHH! Oh man that's too much!
Love that crud...
Solaris is very finegrained for good SMP performance, but Linux wipes the floor with it when running on one or 2 CPU's.. anymore then that, and Slowlaris makes more sense...
;-)
(as long as you don't do someting dumb like run Gnome on it... Ok, I use Gnome sometimes, but it is a quite resource hungry setup. If you want more speed, use afterstep or just about anything else
Really? Even with a sigkill? (kill -s 9)
I have NEVER had an unkillable process in ~4 years on the 11 different servers I have used and/or administered...
I have heard of zombied processes, but one should very very rarely run into one...
Um.. but it DOES run on Microsoft OS's..
It will do the samewhen it's done, it just isn't done yet ;-)
the main reason their games were massively overpriced (compared to, say, playstation) was based on chioce of using faster "carts" that were rom based vs playstations much cheaper cd's.
This accounts for about an extra $10 in the productin costs, paid for by the purchaser, of course...
Truth is, I would like there to be no guns. I really really would.. But that's not gonna happen.
So, I will keep my gun until you can get the criminals to give up theirs.
Wrong... Do some real research, and you'll find guns are used most often as deturents, and never fired..
Legal guns are used effectivly to stop crime then accidents occur by a factor of 50 or so...
Ok, Abit is taking RedHat, customizing the install bootdisk and kernel, adding at least one new tool, and giving it away free over the internet and with EVERY new motherboard shipped.. That's right, every motherboard that leaves Abit's hands will come with Linux.
What are you all wining about? It's not as if they decided to throw out the conventional file layout or config format or ANYTING... It seems this is a free, officially unsuported release of Linux made to work easily on their hardware and any other hardware out there. I can't see any downside, except that people might not know they are really using a RedHat variant.
First we complain Linux isn't getting enough respect.. Then a company ships out a Linux distro with it's products, and all we can do is wine. This move by Abit is a good thing that will put Linux in the hands of more people who wouldn't otherwise have it, and make it easier to install on a particular piece of hardware.
Why should your mom have too? Unless she is the one buying a new sound card and installing it, which shows she has some sort of technical skill already...
Not everyone has the ability to be a Linux admin., but not everyone needs to be...
There is a space for pure users, who can call on you occationally if they have a problem..
Solaris, etc have been filling this nitch in business for ages..
Try Cliff bars..
Harder to find, but better for you and taste much darn better.
To learn to drive a car, you need to learn how the controls work. (and this is not an inherently easy thing.. I know people who still haven't done so well. ;-) You need to know nothing about the internals, only the input and output..
To use a "expert" computer system, the same is true. YOu don't need to know that the input you give it is added to a linked list internally, you just need to know what that input will affect.
Much like you don't need to know what a microwave does with the numbers you give it, but you need to know how to set the time you want your food cooked.
Um...
I don't want to drive, because it requires learning. I want to walk.
Yes, getting stuff done is the goal. However, to get stuff done over the long term, generally it is much more efficient to spend some time learning in the short term.
*nix is fast most importantly automatible(it is possible to script and schedule EVERYTHING) once you invest a short amount of time learning how to use it. No, I'm not gonna give my grandma a Linux box, I'll give her a webTV, as that's all the computing power she needs, with no added problems.
However, if anyone is inclined to learn an OS, Linux and it's concepts aren't any more complicated then Windows is.
"We should learn from Microsoft's attempts, however failed, to make a computer into a thing you can use like an appliance, not shun them."
I'm sorry, I must have dozed off while Microsoft has done this. Could you tell me how they have?
"Microsoft computers", by which I assume you mean Windows 95/98/2000/NT are now still less like appliances then amigas or Macs of 10 years ago.
MIcrosoft was lucky enough to get on a platform that became in a way the "de facto standard" of the computer world, and have either made poor clones of other products, or bought out other companies and used their products. About the only thing Microsoft has come up with is naming a button on the GUI "Start".
Ok, to be fair, Linux hasn't been all that much of a revolution in computing interfaces either. However, it is much more suited to building a kiosk or appliance layer on top of. Linux is more then a kernel that runs X and a desktop complete with file tools and all, it is a kernel that can be used in digital VCR like devices, palm pilots, web servers, conventional PC like desktops, informational kiosks, dumb terminals, single perpose monitoring and custom screen interfaces in manufacturing plants, in video game consoles, etc.
Linux is more then the conventional desktop, it can be used in most any market of computers you can think of.
And if it doesn't have the interface you like yet, you can build your own. Linux is freedom to create, use only what you want of the os, and no more...
It's not about the keyboard.. its' about the mouse..
Every decent player I play against plays with the mouse/keyboard combo, bar none..
Keyboard for all kinds of weapon switching, strafing, etc, and mouse for aiming..
Unix is old, not archaic.
Old=old
Archaic=old, and most everyone agrees much better things have come along.
Old things can still be good (ala a Rembrant painting)
Old things can also be archaic, ala Motif or cp/m.
Well, loki's mpeg player is actually pretty good.. But yeah, the rest of the players curently suck ;-)
Anyone care to explain why they are TRI-corders? Seem to do a hell of a lot more then 3 things..
Right now I'd settle for the Quake3 arena point release, and mod source for linux.
I thought id was planning on keeping all platforms in sync? It's been about 2 weeks since the win. point release came out, and us Linuxers don't get to play any mods or have the benifit of the new serverbrowser or anything... Lets get that thing out the door!
Heavy Gear II is coming out from Loki soon.. I like that one more then Mechwarrior anyway..
Railroad Tycoon is in the same vein as Rollercoaster Tycoon(from what I hear, never played wither..), and that has been out by loki for a while.
Well, Crusoe was designed for low power use, then they tried to get speed out of it..
"Efficiency"=Power efficiency, not speed efficiency.
It is slower then other x86 chips per mhz, but paster per watt. Therefore, they have done a good job at what they wanted to do. No, it's not an alpha or a k7, but it wasn't designed to be.
Prove it.
US birth rates are dropping dramatically, China also. Everywhere I look, the population is dropping.
Also, there is more then enough food for the current population, but distribution sucks (mostly because 2% of the world owns 90% of the worlds wealth, and last month I spent more on internet access then most families in the world would make in the same period of time.. And my cable access is $50 us..)
Also, the areas were there are starving people are not that way because there are too many people, but because there is a very crappy governmental system.
The problems we will be facing in the US are mostly because there aren't enough babies being born to keep the population at the same size, much less growing. Recession will come, not from overpopulation, but under.
Plastics also seem to be a factor in the dropping male sperm count, and lowering of testosterone in males.. htm s /book/renewal/voices2/femn.htm
Check these links for some beginning info.
http://www.sciencenews.org/sn_arc99/4_3_99/fob3
http://www.scitec.auckland.ac.nz/~king/Preprint
http://users.linuxbox.com/~recover/
This is a program that is almost ready for normal use that tries to make undeletion easier.
It's not a perfect solution, but should work if the file has been deleted recently.
It askes you for whatever information you know about the file, then searches for the correct inode.
"Us yanks" are fine... Some of our more rich corperations that will fight tooth and nail to stay that way and steamroll any new thecnology that gets in their way. ;-)
But most companies and people are fine here, really. There's just a few big bullies that delight in trying to ruin all our fun.
"A "women's magazine" is obviously designed to sell to women, just like how Maxim and Details are geared towards men. There's no problem with this (in relation to your complaint) because the domains of the respective magazines are defined along gender lines. These magazines aren't trying to reach everyone."
;-)
And computer magazines target is teenage guys. If more girls were interested, more magazines would target them. This is kind of like Linux games.. No one was decrying the fact that because there were no comercial games for Linux, that it was driving gamers away, though it certainly was. So?
It's the game magazines job to sell to who will buy. If someone thought they could market a magazine more to girls, they are quite free to do so. I also think that these few examples are not quite what you would see in you average gaming mag either..
As for Tomb raider being exploitive, I have a woman friend who that is the only PC game she will play because she likes the powerful woman premise of the game, and the puzzles are nifty too.. (She is also the only female I know personally who plays anything more then minesweeper.)
In further reference to the "exploitive" issue, would you agree that magazines like "seventeen" and other such teeny-bopper rags are just as exploitive of men? I realize this and other "exploitive" things I can figure out are aimed squarely at girls, but so are the gaming mags aimed at guys. So?
If you don't like the current game rags, don't buy them. Only buy the games you like. There are certainly enough games from any genre out there that there must be SOMETHING you like.
If enough girls want something, the market will provide it, much like the market has begun to provide Linux games. The market owes you nothing.
If you see such a great future in women gaming, go start your own frigging company and provide it like Loki has for linux games. If not, go complain to the people who make the curent ones. Talking to me will help none. (I'm hard headed, if you haven't realized by now