Only that last line was a troll, however speaking as a Solaris Admin, (8 years Professional) I can honestly say this;
Guy's got a point.
UNIX desktops have ALWAYS sucked. Down to the point where themed window managers have the nerve to claim they are an actual distro just by bundling it over stable UNIX version like FreeBSD or Debian
Sometime I think that the only thing that separates me from Windows Admins is the hassle of dealing with a command line doesn't bug me. Which is how I run my boxes. The inconsistency of the interface hackers requires I just ignore their work as the circus that it is. Even SUN can't do a half-assed job of it. So when I need a UNIX gui I fire up a four year old copy of Reflection X for NT (running on W2k) from WRQ. And stay in Windows.
Gandhi's big point about revolution works here as well.
If you can't reach the common people your Plans and Ideas will go nowhere.
When I am asked about which computer I recommend I ask them do they care how it works, Honestly do they care?
If the answer is 'No', - Get a Mac
If the answer is 'Sort of' Go for Windows (2000 Preferably).
If they say 'Absolutely' Then pick a Serious OS like Solaris, BSD, or the like.
However if they are barking mad and on heavy antipsychotics then I know they are already using Linux.
There are reasons why UNIX (Linux is UNIX) won the server market and Windows won the desktop. That's because the average user is barely computer literate (barely literate too). THEY DON'T CARE HOW IT WORKS
The BEAST of Redmond may be arrogant, thieving, manipulative, and all sorts of other things but they do understand that simple fact. If you can't make it work right away, then you just lost the sale.
My heart aches and a drowsy numbness pains
My senses, as though an anteater I'd seen (panic spreads and the audience half rise)
A nasty long-nosed brute (screams from the audience)
With furry legs and sticky darting tongue
I seem to feel its cruel jaws
Crunch crunch there go my legs
Snap snap my thorax too (various screaming women faint)
My head's in a twain, there goes my brain
Swallow, swallow, swallow, slurp
(he loses control)
ah, the wonders of ncftp got me the all three iso images while I slept. look up the man page for ncftp about bgget, you can log out and forget about it.
Ok, yeah. Declining populations are 'Bad'. However it may be more in response to food supplies dwindling. Thinly veiled referances about "Shark fin soup" aside, maybe it's time to cut back on those Fish & Chips as well. What they don't tell you about in the fishing industry is just how much gets thrown back as worthless. Sharks included. By the time those fish get back in the water their dead.
Populationwise the earth can sustain about 10 Billion (with a B and we are at 6 billion now), I tend to think thats a little high, we are already starting to show the signs of ecological collapes now in Thermal increases. I think 4 Billion is a better number.
Personally I am a big fan of Soylent Green, I find it varys from person to person.
Our jobs do eat up our lives. It's would happen anyway That's how we are wired. Slashdot'ers need to accept this fact. We are not normal. I would love to be able to put down that damn keyboard when I got home. I get home and I am back on a keyboard, this time for some sort of 'techie fun'. Banging away at some issue on my home systems. I used to think I just loved a challenge, but now I know it's just an another addiction.
This biggest difference between my ultrasparc home box and My work box is I can pull it down when I want to. Oh, and it's in my bedroom. Sigh...
Yesterday I got the server out of my bedroom, maybe the PC will be out sometime soon, but I doubt it.
My company has been working on an open source drop in disk that creates fileserver, print servers, & the like. The mostly piles of scripting. Look at Kickstart (same as Jumpstart on Solaris) for Redhat Linux. You will be able to setup the scripts to make it look identical to whatever you want.
Failing that sort of effort you might just want to do a full system backup of a master that works they way you want. Copy the backup to cdrom and fire up the RIAA disapproved duplicators and go to it.
Look in your local events paper in the musicians section there are ads for bulk cdrom houses, these do press runs for Demos tapes and limited releases mostly. If you can convince them that it's not copyrighted material they may even do it for the Tax Deduction.
Oh that is sooo true, I would like to be able to set my computer's mood to say, simpering. Or Maybe we would be able to jack them up with drugs. Like say sodium penthanol and I could get my Ultrasparc to tell me exactly why it's not seeing the cdrom drive.
If you want a computer to sense my mood it might be better to put at least a bit of protection on it. It's not my mood it has to worry about it's my sledgehammer.
When they explain that one I will be satisfied. All other mysterys pale, except maybe the one about CmdrTaco, like why we ever see him post before 5pm est?
What do you want to bet that the route suddenly now runs thru Las Vegas with special mention of the Bunny's Bordello and the Mustang Ranch and a secure site at NASA that lets you buy a 'Listing' for your town on the route. I already found Crawford TX as magically appeared on the route. Could they finally now have a clue on how to raise money for space exploration?
it's not suprising that most researchers don't read the whole text. It's fricking longwinded and often covers stuff you already know. When I still bought books for my Sysadmin jobs (I switched to just doing net searches) Every damn one had the first chapter devoted to the tried and true retelling about the history of the internet. It got so that I wouldn't buy one if the first chapter was on the history or background of the internet.
We no longer see that many with that type of crap in them so my efforts were not in vain.
Dumb people think that if a book is large then it's got to have more infomation.
With infomation it's laser (advanced) vs searchlight (student). I will take the laser anyday.
While the temp extremes your talking about are real the problem is rather minor. In this case the older the hardware the better. Run the whole thing off a CDROM and a small harddrive.
More heat equals less wetness. Here PVC pipes are your bestest friends. Run the heated air from the CPU and drive area out to heat up the area above the Box.
Keep a hole in the joints of the pipes to drain stray water. just keep a $5 keyboard hooked up to it and some temp sensors and your done. I have done this sort of thing for other people.
Worked fine for a trafficCam for a local website. Sounds like you have more resources for this.
But if you have to spend more then $100 a unit your thinking right.
I would love to see how they plan to put a Radish Spirt toy in a happy meal. They don't care about ticket sales, they care about byproducts and aftermarket trinkets.
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Guy's got a point.
UNIX desktops have ALWAYS sucked. Down to the point where themed window managers have the nerve to claim they are an actual distro just by bundling it over stable UNIX version like FreeBSD or DebianSometime I think that the only thing that separates me from Windows Admins is the hassle of dealing with a command line doesn't bug me. Which is how I run my boxes. The inconsistency of the interface hackers requires I just ignore their work as the circus that it is. Even SUN can't do a half-assed job of it. So when I need a UNIX gui I fire up a four year old copy of Reflection X for NT (running on W2k) from WRQ. And stay in Windows.
Gandhi's big point about revolution works here as well.
If you can't reach the common people your Plans and Ideas will go nowhere.
When I am asked about which computer I recommend I ask them do they care how it works, Honestly do they care?
If the answer is 'No', - Get a Mac
If the answer is 'Sort of' Go for Windows (2000 Preferably).
If they say 'Absolutely' Then pick a Serious OS like Solaris, BSD, or the like.
However if they are barking mad and on heavy antipsychotics then I know they are already using Linux.
There are reasons why UNIX (Linux is UNIX) won the server market and Windows won the desktop. That's because the average user is barely computer literate (barely literate too). THEY DON'T CARE HOW IT WORKS
The BEAST of Redmond may be arrogant, thieving, manipulative, and all sorts of other things but they do understand that simple fact. If you can't make it work right away, then you just lost the sale.
Nice to see that yet again I got a reason to fire up that compiler.
My heart aches and a drowsy numbness pains
My senses, as though an anteater I'd seen
(panic spreads and the audience half rise)
A nasty long-nosed brute
(screams from the audience)
With furry legs and sticky darting tongue
I seem to feel its cruel jaws
Crunch crunch there go my legs
Snap snap my thorax too
(various screaming women faint)
My head's in a twain, there goes my brain
Swallow, swallow, swallow, slurp (he loses control)
Old Lady
Mr Keats, Mr Keats, please leave immediately.
ah, the wonders of ncftp got me the all three iso images while I slept. look up the man page for ncftp about bgget, you can log out and forget about it.
Thats FreeBSD 5.0, RC3 and it's almost off topic.
Populationwise the earth can sustain about 10 Billion (with a B and we are at 6 billion now), I tend to think thats a little high, we are already starting to show the signs of ecological collapes now in Thermal increases. I think 4 Billion is a better number.
Personally I am a big fan of Soylent Green, I find it varys from person to person.
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This biggest difference between my ultrasparc home box and My work box is I can pull it down when I want to. Oh, and it's in my bedroom. Sigh...
Yesterday I got the server out of my bedroom, maybe the PC will be out sometime soon, but I doubt it.
Contact with Humans outside of a Prey-Predator context has likely started the whole language thing.
They are not that far off from us. We learn by observing, and SO DO THEY!
We have culturally infected them so like in the Laurie Anderson song - Language is a Virus
Failing that sort of effort you might just want to do a full system backup of a master that works they way you want. Copy the backup to cdrom and fire up the RIAA disapproved duplicators and go to it.
Look in your local events paper in the musicians section there are ads for bulk cdrom houses, these do press runs for Demos tapes and limited releases mostly. If you can convince them that it's not copyrighted material they may even do it for the Tax Deduction.
Oh that is sooo true, I would like to be able to set my computer's mood to say, simpering. Or Maybe we would be able to jack them up with drugs. Like say sodium penthanol and I could get my Ultrasparc to tell me exactly why it's not seeing the cdrom drive.
Mood sensing computers bring visions of those annoying gadgets in Red Dwarf and Hitchhikers.
Now that this has been said let's retire the humour aspect unless it's a really good one.
If you want a computer to sense my mood it might be better to put at least a bit of protection on it. It's not my mood it has to worry about it's my sledgehammer.
When they explain that one I will be satisfied. All other mysterys pale, except maybe the one about CmdrTaco, like why we ever see him post before 5pm est?
What do you want to bet that the route suddenly now runs thru Las Vegas with special mention of the Bunny's Bordello and the Mustang Ranch and a secure site at NASA that lets you buy a 'Listing' for your town on the route. I already found Crawford TX as magically appeared on the route. Could they finally now have a clue on how to raise money for space exploration?
it's not suprising that most researchers don't read the whole text. It's fricking longwinded and often covers stuff you already know. When I still bought books for my Sysadmin jobs (I switched to just doing net searches) Every damn one had the first chapter devoted to the tried and true retelling about the history of the internet. It got so that I wouldn't buy one if the first chapter was on the history or background of the internet.
We no longer see that many with that type of crap in them so my efforts were not in vain.
Dumb people think that if a book is large then it's got to have more infomation.
With infomation it's laser (advanced) vs searchlight (student). I will take the laser anyday.
Then post it on Kazaa.
oh, your just teasing me, whahh. I want to be in Japan now or just have a copy of the DVD, I don't care about engrish.
Pretty much what I was talking about b/w more detail, and again most slashdotters won't see this as a problem. Doing stuff on the cheap is too easy
Rather under a $100 is right.
While the temp extremes your talking about are real the problem is rather minor. In this case the older the hardware the better. Run the whole thing off a CDROM and a small harddrive.
More heat equals less wetness. Here PVC pipes are your bestest friends. Run the heated air from the CPU and drive area out to heat up the area above the Box.
Keep a hole in the joints of the pipes to drain stray water. just keep a $5 keyboard hooked up to it and some temp sensors and your done. I have done this sort of thing for other people.
Worked fine for a trafficCam for a local website. Sounds like you have more resources for this.
But if you have to spend more then $100 a unit your thinking right.
UNIX no flash
I would love to see how they plan to put a Radish Spirt toy in a happy meal. They don't care about ticket sales, they care about byproducts and aftermarket trinkets.
Unlike our libertarian friend here the greens have a stated set of ideal not the writings of some anti-green crackpot. Aussie Greens First on the list from Google.
I was always more effective with Norton Commander/Midnight Commander (linux version). Just because you can do something does that mean you should?
The three-D Gui is pretty good, the monsters in Quake just jump right out at you. It's workable as long as you remember where you left the glasses.