The post I was replying to was refering to saving spam emails so that when congress passed an anti-email-spam law you could sue for millions. Which is where the ex post facto thing comes in...
Won't work if you live in the states. Constitution protects you from expo-facto laws (think I got that right).
In other words, if a law is passed making something you did yesterday illegal, you can't be prosecuted for it -- because when you did it yesterday, it was legal.
I don't have a non-liquid filled bearing drive to compare with, but the 80gb Maxtor w/liquid bearings is very quiet. So quiet in fact, that I wasn't sure the drive was getting power when I first turned it on...
I've only got a few older Quantums and a 27gb IBM drive to compare with, which are a few years old.
The heads are also very quiet, and with the cover on the Tivo you can't tell that it's got a 2nd drive in there -- the factory drive makes significantly more noise.
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Current CCDs are capable of greater than 2560x1960 acquisitions. The camera I'm currently working with captures images at 3072x2048.
DDR1600, DDR2100, DDR2400, DDR2700, and DDR3000 should have actually been written as PC1600, PC2100, PC2400, PC2700, and PC3000.
Additionally, I left out a bit of info I had intended to include (ah, the joys of posting while distracted by work;)). "DDRxxx" generally refers to the speed the ram is running at. So DDR333 would be running at 333mhz (166mhz * 2), referring to PC2700 or PC3000.
There are several kinds of FSB's out there...most of them operate at 100 or 133mhz. What's all this business about 200 and 533mhz busses you say? It has to do with "when" the data is being sent.
Let's look at a clock signal for a second in primative ascii form: ___ ___ ___ .../ \.../ \.../ etc
An SDR bus sends data once every mhz. The components send a bit of data around each time the signal rises.
A DDR bus sends data when the clock signal changes. So a bit gets sent when the clock rises, and again when it falls. While the clock may only be 100mhz, you're sending 2x as much data around so the equivilant clock rate is actually 200mhz.
A QDR bus sends data at the different edges of the clock signal. Notice that the clock signal doesn't instantly flip on and off -- there is a transitional period. So it sends a bit when the signal starts to rise, sends another when it reaches the top, sends a 3rd one when it starts to fall, and sends a 4th one when it reaches the bottom. While the clock may only be 100mhz, it's effective clock rate is really 400mhz.
So, Intel really just moved from a 100mhz system bus to a 133mhz system bus.
DDR1600 ~= CAS 2.5 ram running at 200mhz (100mhz * 2) DDR2100 ~= CAS 2.5 ram running at 266mhz (133mhz * 2) DDR2400 ~= CAS 2 ram running at 266mhz (133mhz * 2) DDR2700 ~= CAS 2.5 ram running at 333mhz (166mhz * 2) DDR3000 ~= CAS 2 ram running at 333mhz (166mhz * 2)
CAS latency kind of represents the "ping" time of the ram. The lower the latency the better. The numbers after the "DDR" represent the theoretical bandwidth that can be obtained by the chip.
I'm not up to date on markings on RDRAM memory modules or what they mean, so I can't really offer any insight into it.
There isn't a rule for remembering which number goes with what FSB frequency. Most places that sell the stuff will list both bits of information though, so it isn't too big of a deal. I'm sure a mathematical formula could be made, but it's easier just to memorize which is which than a forumula which requires the use of a calculator.
Like I said, it's great for normal driving, but don't kid yourself into thinking it translates into performance.
And I don't drive a Honduh. I climb hills just fine in 5th with the AC on thankyouverymuch.;) V6 engines generally have a much broader powerband than the I4's found in most Hondas.
As others have stated, turbines arn't that great at accelerating/decelerating.
However, at one point chrysler was investigating using them in a hybrid vehicle, where the turbine was essentially an electric generator and the drivetrain was powered by electics.
Didn't do too bad, averaged about 50mpg, but the gas/electric hybrid they were toying with was able to achieve 70mpg.
Too bad they havn't decided to bring any of that technology to the market....
Diesel engines are really good at producing a lot of torque low in the rpm range -- this makes the type of engine ideal for roaming the highways and around town driving, where you generally arn't tipping the tach over 3k rpm. And for those rpm ranges, 150 ft/lbs of torque at the crank isn't too shabby.
Diesel engines are really bad at producing torque at rpm ranges that translate into high hp numbers (hp is a function of torque & rpm). Which equates to the pathetic 90 peak hp obtained under 4000 rpm. Hell, my car is putting out 205ft/lbs of torque at 4000rpm, and it's still holding onto about 190ft/lbs at 5500...
And I don't know what you're racing against, but with a 0-60 time of over 12 seconds it is nowhere near anything remotely resembling a performance vehicle. My car takes roughly 7 seconds to get to 60, and even at that speed it is merely considered "sporty"; far from fast by any means. What does that translate to in the real world? It means by the time you've hit the bottom of the highway onramp, you're doing 70mph while I'm just hitting 120.
Torque is great for getting off the line or passing on the highway. It's what pushes you back in the seat. But hp is what gets you down to the end of the track. To look at it from a different perspective, would you want 155ft/lbs of torque 2000 times per minute, or 120ft/lbs of torque 5000 times per minute? Guess which one is going to do more work. And guess which one is going to get to the end of the track first.
It's great that you don't have to pay lots for gas, and you get to go really far on a tank of gas, but don't fool yourself into thinking that it's anything close to fast.
Since when is sending your buddies IM's on a company computer using a company network on company time a "right"?
Using a company phone on company property on company property isn't a right, so why the hell is doing the same thing over a computer any different?
Spending 7 hours a day talking on the phone with your friends would get you fired, no questions asked. Why is doing the same thing on a computer any different?
Some places suck to work at. Find a better job if you don't like it -- I refuse to work at a company that regulates bathroom breaks or monitors communications. If you can't find a better job, the problem is either with you or the fact that no company offers a better set of standards, in which case it's time to join a union and start fighting for what you believe to be right.
The company has a right to dictate how it's resources are used.
Most companies WANT you to eat at your desk -- less time out of the office, more time working. So they do what they can to encourage that behavior.
Many companies located in areas where parking is scarce charge their employees parking fees. Albiet, usually at a cheaper rate than the local lots. Don't like it? Walk, ride a bike, or take the bus.
Depending on the type of job you work, restroom breaks are regulated, and are normally restricted in frequency and duration to the limits the law allows (or whatever your labor union negotiated).
And an employer CAN regulate your speech when it involves company business. NDA's are a prime example. They can't do shit about your political opinions, but they can tell you not to talk about it on company time. They can also terminate you for telling off a customer.
That's the way it is. The time at which you sign your tax papers doesn't mean shit. If you don't like it, quit. If you don't want to quit, get over it.
Great, 4 episodes which will surely end in a cliffhanger followed a 5 week gap...ARG! Preceeded by not airing anything for something on the order of 3 MONTHS in the middle of the current season...SciFi is driving me nuts!
Tune in an hour early tonight and watch Farscape Undressed.
Should give you enough of a primer to follow the rest of the series. Then either try to catch the reruns as they air or buy the dvd's -- because while FU will bring you up to speed, nearly all of the episodes up to this point are just awesome and are definately worth watching.
I've got you beat... I've got a 20mb Quantum drive attached to an old Atari somewhere around here... damn thing still works like the day I first plugged it in (ie: I get that cool jet engine whir noise when the system is powered on;)). Shoot, I can't even remember when I got that drive... it was a handme down from my dad in the late 80's...
A few suggestions: * get a better heatsink and a slower fan for your cpu -- you don't need a 60mm 7000rpm delta fan to cool a 1.5ghz processor; FAR from it. A good quiet 4000rpm fan sitting on top of a Thermalright SK-6 would still be overkill. * get an office class PC -- they're designed with noise levels in mind, not performance. So they're quiet. And generally cheap, unexpandable, and have low quality components which annoys the living daylights out of me, but if you arn't into building your own computer it should be more than adequate.
Yes. And I was never saying that a PPC is better than a Palm. I was saying that PPC has capabilities in a PDA that Palm doesn't. It shouldn't be assumed that I think PPC are better than Palm because I can play videos, just because a lot of others think so.
A brief history:
* person says Palm devices are inferior because his PPC device can play Mpegs & Quake
* I say "so what, get a laptop"
* You jump in and say that I'm narrow minded and am holding back PDAs
* I make useless and confusing fruit analogies
* You find my fruit anaologies confusing and useless
* -->current messageNo. I'm asking for a PDA with image editing functionality. You need to stop assuming you know what I want, or what's best for me.
...which would be a device with the image editing functionality found in a laptop, except smaller...
I really don't think that the fruit analogy really works. Especially when you consider that image editing SW is available for Palm anyway. Doesn't that make Palm just as bad as PPC?
No, but judging the Palm's abilities as a PDA by it's ability to perform non-PDA tasks isn't a valid comparison in my opinion. If you want a PDA that does other stuff too, that's fine. But people (I guess I should stop saying you at this point;)) insist that their PPC is a superior PDA because it does do PDA stuff, and my point is that the non PDA stuff is irrelevant if you want a PDA. Some people want a PDA that is more than a PDA, like you (which would be a fruit coctail in my analogy). But some people continue to insist that the ability to play quake is a mark of PDA functionality (calling an apple and orange).
Mark my works. In 5 years time. We won't be having this argument, because all PDAs will have multimedia capabilities. It's just a normal part of technology evolving. Anyone who thinks that PDA's will stay PIM/PDA only, and never integrate laptop-like capabilities is just kidding themselves. It's all ready happened! But it's just the beginning, so everything is still a bit clunky.
I'm sure we will too, but it will exist as a "cute" feature, an enhancement. Like sound was on the original Newton. The sound was cool. But using my Palm I don't feel that the difference between simple clicks and a crumpling piece of paper effects it's usability.
I also think that devices with more and more capabilities will not be called PDA's. It's kind of like calling a TiVo a digital VCR. It's so much more than that, yet if you tell someone it's a digital VCR they don't grasp all of what it can do. PPC devices are mini computers. They are! Just because it's a mini computer doesn't mean it can't function well as a PDA. But the mere fact that it's a mini computer doesn't make it a superior PDA either. Specs alone don't make one PDA superior to another.
Your right there, but never in my post did I mention MPEGS. That's not the only things PPCs can do.
I know it's not the only thing that PPCs do. But anytime a Palm vs PPC discussion starts, PPC advocates tout that their device is superior because it can play MP3's, Mpegs, and Quake. And my response is typically "So? None of those things are usefull in a PDA, and you can do it better on other devices already out there". People argue that the PPC is a superior Palm because it does non PDA stuff. Whoopie do.
Yes. I know what you meant. I have a Vx myself. And use it all the time. But different applications call for different solutions. A Palm in not the answer I'm looking for for this particular project, but neither is laptop.
Which is great. What you're asking for is the video/image editing functionality found in a laptop, except smaller.
You seem to be saying than apples are useless, and that I should get a watermelon.
No, I'm saying that you really want a fruit coctail, but keep asking for the apple, and when you get the apple you insist that it's an orange too.:)
My argument was never that Palm should follow PPC (I don't think they should either). But that you can't say that a laptop is a better alternative to PPC type PDAs. They all have their places.
I think for the capabilities people often use to say that PPC devices are superior to Palm devices, laptops are much better suited. I've never used a PPC myself; they look too computery for my tastes (if that makes any sense), but I don't mean to imply that they are useless for PDA tasks.
Your right there, but never in my post did I mention MPEGS. That's not the only things PPCs can do.
I know it's not the only thing that PPCs do. But anytime a Palm vs PPC discussion starts, PPC advocates tout that their device is superior because it can play MP3's, Mpegs, and Quake. And my response is typically "So? None of those things are usefull, and you can do it better on other devices already out there". People argue that the PPC is a superior Palm because it does non PDA stuff. Whoopie do.
Yes. I know what you meant. I have a Vx myself. And use it all the time. But different applications call for different solutions. A Palm in not the answer I'm looking for for this particular project, but neither is laptop.
Which is great. What you're asking for is the video/image editing functionality found in a laptop, except smaller.
You seem to be saying than apples are useless, and that I should get a watermelon.
No, I'm saying that you really want a fruit coctail, but keep asking for the apple, and when you get the apple you insist that it's an orange too.:)
My argument was never that Palm should follow PPC (I don't think they should either). But that you can't say that a laptop is a better alternative to PPC type PDAs. They all have their places.
I think for the capabilities people often use to say that PPC devices are superior to Palm devices, laptops are much better suited. I've never used a PPC myself; they look too computery for my tastes (if that makes any sense), but I don't mean to imply that they are useless for PDA tasks.
A PDA is a concept. "Personal Digital Assistant." I'd like to emphasise PERSONAL and ASSISTANT.
Watching a MPEG on a screen isn't an assisting function. It's cool, and all of your coworkers will nod their heads and say that's neat, but it doesn't do anything for you. Playing a short movie on a small screen doesn't help me do anything. Playing MP3s may be handy and entertaining, but it doesn't ASSIST me in doing anything.
Yes, laptops are big and heavy. They're about as hard to carry around as your backpack. But you know what? They're a hell of alot better at playing Q3a, watching dvd's and everything else people use to tout the supriority of WinCE devices over Palm devices. Hey, guess what, you're asking for a mini computer, not a PDA.
PDA's are much more usefull than getting a just a phone number. That was just an example. I use mine to track time at work, manage my financial time at work, to schedule reminders of things I need to do, to store my grocery list, to track mileage on my vehicles and their maintenance schedules (among other things).
Just because you have a device that fits in your hand that plays mpeg's doesn't make it a PDA. There are lots of devices that perform that function. What do you call those Cell Phones with built in PDAs? You don't call it a PDA do you? And you certainly don't just say it's a cell phone. It's both. Not one, not the other. By your definition of a PDA, the GameBoy would qualify as one because it has a small screen and runs on batteries -- but it isn't! And I doubt anyone here would try to say it was.
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The post I was replying to was refering to saving spam emails so that when congress passed an anti-email-spam law you could sue for millions. Which is where the ex post facto thing comes in...
Won't work if you live in the states. Constitution protects you from expo-facto laws (think I got that right).
In other words, if a law is passed making something you did yesterday illegal, you can't be prosecuted for it -- because when you did it yesterday, it was legal.
Last time I checked, crossing something doesn't require taking the longest possible path...
You start in a body of land on one side of the atlantic. You land in another body of land on the other side. You've crossed it.
I don't have a non-liquid filled bearing drive to compare with, but the 80gb Maxtor w/liquid bearings is very quiet. So quiet in fact, that I wasn't sure the drive was getting power when I first turned it on ...
I've only got a few older Quantums and a 27gb IBM drive to compare with, which are a few years old.
The heads are also very quiet, and with the cover on the Tivo you can't tell that it's got a 2nd drive in there -- the factory drive makes significantly more noise.
Current CCDs are capable of greater than 2560x1960 acquisitions. The camera I'm currently working with captures images at 3072x2048.
So what they're saying is that they've proven that their random number generator isn't really all that random? :p
Nothing is burning or being ignited.
The neat thing about this is that the energy souce isn't present on the craft; it exists back on the ground.
Wouldn't you be able to counter sue for what it costs to defend such an accusation in court? Or something to that effect anyway?
Correction:
;)). "DDRxxx" generally refers to the speed the ram is running at. So DDR333 would be running at 333mhz (166mhz * 2), referring to PC2700 or PC3000.
DDR1600, DDR2100, DDR2400, DDR2700, and DDR3000 should have actually been written as PC1600, PC2100, PC2400, PC2700, and PC3000.
Additionally, I left out a bit of info I had intended to include (ah, the joys of posting while distracted by work
There are several kinds of FSB's out there...most of them operate at 100 or 133mhz. What's all this business about 200 and 533mhz busses you say? It has to do with "when" the data is being sent.
Let's look at a clock signal for a second in primative ascii form:
___ ___ ___
.../ \.../ \.../ etc
An SDR bus sends data once every mhz. The components send a bit of data around each time the signal rises.
A DDR bus sends data when the clock signal changes. So a bit gets sent when the clock rises, and again when it falls. While the clock may only be 100mhz, you're sending 2x as much data around so the equivilant clock rate is actually 200mhz.
A QDR bus sends data at the different edges of the clock signal. Notice that the clock signal doesn't instantly flip on and off -- there is a transitional period. So it sends a bit when the signal starts to rise, sends another when it reaches the top, sends a 3rd one when it starts to fall, and sends a 4th one when it reaches the bottom. While the clock may only be 100mhz, it's effective clock rate is really 400mhz.
So, Intel really just moved from a 100mhz system bus to a 133mhz system bus.
DDR1600 ~= CAS 2.5 ram running at 200mhz (100mhz * 2)
DDR2100 ~= CAS 2.5 ram running at 266mhz (133mhz * 2)
DDR2400 ~= CAS 2 ram running at 266mhz (133mhz * 2)
DDR2700 ~= CAS 2.5 ram running at 333mhz (166mhz * 2)
DDR3000 ~= CAS 2 ram running at 333mhz (166mhz * 2)
CAS latency kind of represents the "ping" time of the ram. The lower the latency the better. The numbers after the "DDR" represent the theoretical bandwidth that can be obtained by the chip.
I'm not up to date on markings on RDRAM memory modules or what they mean, so I can't really offer any insight into it.
There isn't a rule for remembering which number goes with what FSB frequency. Most places that sell the stuff will list both bits of information though, so it isn't too big of a deal. I'm sure a mathematical formula could be made, but it's easier just to memorize which is which than a forumula which requires the use of a calculator.
And again, you're missing the point.
The original poster said "My Golf TDI gets 50mpg and is faster than most cars on the road."
To which I reply "The TDI is great for around town and highway driving, and the gas mileage is cool, but it isn't exactly fast."
To prove my point, I start giving examples based on what I would consider cars on the slower end of the performance spectrum.
And of course you jump in totally missing the point.
And I repeat the point.
And you reply still missing the point, get your manties in a knot, and move onto the oh so intelligent "mine is bigger than yours" arguement.
Congrats.
Like I said, it's great for normal driving, but don't kid yourself into thinking it translates into performance.
;) V6 engines generally have a much broader powerband than the I4's found in most Hondas.
And I don't drive a Honduh. I climb hills just fine in 5th with the AC on thankyouverymuch.
As others have stated, turbines arn't that great at accelerating/decelerating.
However, at one point chrysler was investigating using them in a hybrid vehicle, where the turbine was essentially an electric generator and the drivetrain was powered by electics.
Didn't do too bad, averaged about 50mpg, but the gas/electric hybrid they were toying with was able to achieve 70mpg.
Too bad they havn't decided to bring any of that technology to the market....
Diesel engines are really good at producing a lot of torque low in the rpm range -- this makes the type of engine ideal for roaming the highways and around town driving, where you generally arn't tipping the tach over 3k rpm. And for those rpm ranges, 150 ft/lbs of torque at the crank isn't too shabby.
Diesel engines are really bad at producing torque at rpm ranges that translate into high hp numbers (hp is a function of torque & rpm). Which equates to the pathetic 90 peak hp obtained under 4000 rpm. Hell, my car is putting out 205ft/lbs of torque at 4000rpm, and it's still holding onto about 190ft/lbs at 5500...
And I don't know what you're racing against, but with a 0-60 time of over 12 seconds it is nowhere near anything remotely resembling a performance vehicle. My car takes roughly 7 seconds to get to 60, and even at that speed it is merely considered "sporty"; far from fast by any means. What does that translate to in the real world? It means by the time you've hit the bottom of the highway onramp, you're doing 70mph while I'm just hitting 120.
Torque is great for getting off the line or passing on the highway. It's what pushes you back in the seat. But hp is what gets you down to the end of the track. To look at it from a different perspective, would you want 155ft/lbs of torque 2000 times per minute, or 120ft/lbs of torque 5000 times per minute? Guess which one is going to do more work. And guess which one is going to get to the end of the track first.
It's great that you don't have to pay lots for gas, and you get to go really far on a tank of gas, but don't fool yourself into thinking that it's anything close to fast.
Since when is sending your buddies IM's on a company computer using a company network on company time a "right"?
Using a company phone on company property on company property isn't a right, so why the hell is doing the same thing over a computer any different?
Spending 7 hours a day talking on the phone with your friends would get you fired, no questions asked. Why is doing the same thing on a computer any different?
Some places suck to work at. Find a better job if you don't like it -- I refuse to work at a company that regulates bathroom breaks or monitors communications. If you can't find a better job, the problem is either with you or the fact that no company offers a better set of standards, in which case it's time to join a union and start fighting for what you believe to be right.
You havn't worked much in your life have you?
The company has a right to dictate how it's resources are used.
Most companies WANT you to eat at your desk -- less time out of the office, more time working. So they do what they can to encourage that behavior.
Many companies located in areas where parking is scarce charge their employees parking fees. Albiet, usually at a cheaper rate than the local lots. Don't like it? Walk, ride a bike, or take the bus.
Depending on the type of job you work, restroom breaks are regulated, and are normally restricted in frequency and duration to the limits the law allows (or whatever your labor union negotiated).
And an employer CAN regulate your speech when it involves company business. NDA's are a prime example. They can't do shit about your political opinions, but they can tell you not to talk about it on company time. They can also terminate you for telling off a customer.
That's the way it is. The time at which you sign your tax papers doesn't mean shit. If you don't like it, quit. If you don't want to quit, get over it.
Great, 4 episodes which will surely end in a cliffhanger followed a 5 week gap...ARG! Preceeded by not airing anything for something on the order of 3 MONTHS in the middle of the current season...SciFi is driving me nuts!
Tune in an hour early tonight and watch Farscape Undressed.
Should give you enough of a primer to follow the rest of the series. Then either try to catch the reruns as they air or buy the dvd's -- because while FU will bring you up to speed, nearly all of the episodes up to this point are just awesome and are definately worth watching.
I've got you beat ... I've got a 20mb Quantum drive attached to an old Atari somewhere around here ... damn thing still works like the day I first plugged it in (ie: I get that cool jet engine whir noise when the system is powered on ;)). Shoot, I can't even remember when I got that drive ... it was a handme down from my dad in the late 80's...
In my case, "Seagate sucks! 5 Seagate drives failed on me, none lasting for more than 8 months...".
...
This was years ago and these were 40mb SCSI drives, but nothing leaves a bad taste in your mouth like that does let me tell you
A few suggestions:
* get a better heatsink and a slower fan for your cpu -- you don't need a 60mm 7000rpm delta fan to cool a 1.5ghz processor; FAR from it. A good quiet 4000rpm fan sitting on top of a Thermalright SK-6 would still be overkill.
* get an office class PC -- they're designed with noise levels in mind, not performance. So they're quiet. And generally cheap, unexpandable, and have low quality components which annoys the living daylights out of me, but if you arn't into building your own computer it should be more than adequate.
Yes. And I was never saying that a PPC is better than a Palm. I was saying that PPC has capabilities in a PDA that Palm doesn't. It shouldn't be assumed that I think PPC are better than Palm because I can play videos, just because a lot of others think so.
;)) insist that their PPC is a superior PDA because it does do PDA stuff, and my point is that the non PDA stuff is irrelevant if you want a PDA. Some people want a PDA that is more than a PDA, like you (which would be a fruit coctail in my analogy). But some people continue to insist that the ability to play quake is a mark of PDA functionality (calling an apple and orange).
A brief history:
* person says Palm devices are inferior because his PPC device can play Mpegs & Quake
* I say "so what, get a laptop"
* You jump in and say that I'm narrow minded and am holding back PDAs
* I make useless and confusing fruit analogies
* You find my fruit anaologies confusing and useless
* -->current messageNo. I'm asking for a PDA with image editing functionality. You need to stop assuming you know what I want, or what's best for me.
...which would be a device with the image editing functionality found in a laptop, except smaller...
I really don't think that the fruit analogy really works. Especially when you consider that image editing SW is available for Palm anyway. Doesn't that make Palm just as bad as PPC?
No, but judging the Palm's abilities as a PDA by it's ability to perform non-PDA tasks isn't a valid comparison in my opinion. If you want a PDA that does other stuff too, that's fine. But people (I guess I should stop saying you at this point
Mark my works. In 5 years time. We won't be having this argument, because all PDAs will have multimedia capabilities. It's just a normal part of technology evolving. Anyone who thinks that PDA's will stay PIM/PDA only, and never integrate laptop-like capabilities is just kidding themselves. It's all ready happened! But it's just the beginning, so everything is still a bit clunky.
I'm sure we will too, but it will exist as a "cute" feature, an enhancement. Like sound was on the original Newton. The sound was cool. But using my Palm I don't feel that the difference between simple clicks and a crumpling piece of paper effects it's usability.
I also think that devices with more and more capabilities will not be called PDA's. It's kind of like calling a TiVo a digital VCR. It's so much more than that, yet if you tell someone it's a digital VCR they don't grasp all of what it can do. PPC devices are mini computers. They are! Just because it's a mini computer doesn't mean it can't function well as a PDA. But the mere fact that it's a mini computer doesn't make it a superior PDA either. Specs alone don't make one PDA superior to another.
I know it's not the only thing that PPCs do. But anytime a Palm vs PPC discussion starts, PPC advocates tout that their device is superior because it can play MP3's, Mpegs, and Quake. And my response is typically "So? None of those things are usefull in a PDA, and you can do it better on other devices already out there". People argue that the PPC is a superior Palm because it does non PDA stuff. Whoopie do.
Yes. I know what you meant. I have a Vx myself. And use it all the time. But different applications call for different solutions. A Palm in not the answer I'm looking for for this particular project, but neither is laptop.
Which is great. What you're asking for is the video/image editing functionality found in a laptop, except smaller.
You seem to be saying than apples are useless, and that I should get a watermelon.
No, I'm saying that you really want a fruit coctail, but keep asking for the apple, and when you get the apple you insist that it's an orange too. :)
My argument was never that Palm should follow PPC (I don't think they should either). But that you can't say that a laptop is a better alternative to PPC type PDAs. They all have their places.
I think for the capabilities people often use to say that PPC devices are superior to Palm devices, laptops are much better suited. I've never used a PPC myself; they look too computery for my tastes (if that makes any sense), but I don't mean to imply that they are useless for PDA tasks.
Your right there, but never in my post did I mention MPEGS. That's not the only things PPCs can do. I know it's not the only thing that PPCs do. But anytime a Palm vs PPC discussion starts, PPC advocates tout that their device is superior because it can play MP3's, Mpegs, and Quake. And my response is typically "So? None of those things are usefull, and you can do it better on other devices already out there". People argue that the PPC is a superior Palm because it does non PDA stuff. Whoopie do. Yes. I know what you meant. I have a Vx myself. And use it all the time. But different applications call for different solutions. A Palm in not the answer I'm looking for for this particular project, but neither is laptop. Which is great. What you're asking for is the video/image editing functionality found in a laptop, except smaller. You seem to be saying than apples are useless, and that I should get a watermelon. No, I'm saying that you really want a fruit coctail, but keep asking for the apple, and when you get the apple you insist that it's an orange too. :)
My argument was never that Palm should follow PPC (I don't think they should either). But that you can't say that a laptop is a better alternative to PPC type PDAs. They all have their places.
I think for the capabilities people often use to say that PPC devices are superior to Palm devices, laptops are much better suited. I've never used a PPC myself; they look too computery for my tastes (if that makes any sense), but I don't mean to imply that they are useless for PDA tasks.
A PDA is a concept. "Personal Digital Assistant." I'd like to emphasise PERSONAL and ASSISTANT.
Watching a MPEG on a screen isn't an assisting function. It's cool, and all of your coworkers will nod their heads and say that's neat, but it doesn't do anything for you. Playing a short movie on a small screen doesn't help me do anything. Playing MP3s may be handy and entertaining, but it doesn't ASSIST me in doing anything.
Yes, laptops are big and heavy. They're about as hard to carry around as your backpack. But you know what? They're a hell of alot better at playing Q3a, watching dvd's and everything else people use to tout the supriority of WinCE devices over Palm devices. Hey, guess what, you're asking for a mini computer, not a PDA.
PDA's are much more usefull than getting a just a phone number. That was just an example. I use mine to track time at work, manage my financial time at work, to schedule reminders of things I need to do, to store my grocery list, to track mileage on my vehicles and their maintenance schedules (among other things).
Just because you have a device that fits in your hand that plays mpeg's doesn't make it a PDA. There are lots of devices that perform that function. What do you call those Cell Phones with built in PDAs? You don't call it a PDA do you? And you certainly don't just say it's a cell phone. It's both. Not one, not the other. By your definition of a PDA, the GameBoy would qualify as one because it has a small screen and runs on batteries -- but it isn't! And I doubt anyone here would try to say it was.
Quit trying to call an apple an orange.